Alabama 38, Kentucky 20 -- After Action Report
Congratulations to the Alabama Crimson Tide. Just as most Kentucky fans suspected (judging from the remarkable absence of people in the open game thread), Kentucky was not up to defeating the talented, powerful Crimson Tide. Alabama played nearly mistake-free football, having relatively few penalties and no turnovers. Just as I explained earlier this week, Alabama does not get it done with smoke, mirrors, or deception. They are just a talented football team that beats you in a completely conventional, straightforward way.
For Kentucky, it was a comedy of errors, just as it was last week -- 7 penalties for 78 yards, many of them personal fouls. One or two personal fouls per game is understandable, but five is unacceptable. I call that very nearly dirty football, or at least unacceptably poor judgment. Kentucky also managed to turn the football over four times to Alabama's zero, which was kind of important considering that two of them resulted in touchdowns.
Well, here are my observations:
- I sure hope Lindley is not hurt badly. He apparently has a sprained ankle.
- Mike Hartline was not an SEC quality quarterback today. I am becoming more and more convinced that he never can be. But this year, I guess he's all we can expect.
- Some may have thought the fake field goal and shot at the end zone at the end of the game was unsportsmanlike, but with all the personal fouls we committed on Alabama, we have absolutely zero moral authority to be critical. That's football. Move on.
- Gotta love Randall Cobb. Too bad he can't play quarterback and receiver at the same time. But if anybody could, it would be him.
- I am, at this moment, unhappy with Rich Brooks. This team's execution sucked out loud. In fact, it was an absolute embarrassment on offense at least half the time, and the 'Cats allowed too many big plays on defense. Take away a great play by Cobb and Mike Hartline's only really good throw, and you have an embarrassing margin rather than a merely pitiful one.
But I also must give the staff credit for a pretty good gameplan. I liked the fact that we utilized our running backs so well in so many ways. It might have even worked if Alabama had given UK a few turnovers, and if UK's offensive execution hadn'd been so feast-or-famine. Alas ... - Derrick Lock needs to get more passes thrown his way, wherever he is. When he gets the ball, good things happen. But Hartline is so sensitive to accusations that he can't throw the ball downfield (which he can't) and locks in so hard on his receivers that it isn't likely to happen. Frustrating.
- This team showed it had enough offensive talent to at least give 'Bama a game, and the UK defense was fairly stout overall. Unfortunately, turnovers, 3 by Hartline, killed any chance we had.
- If it seems like I am on Hartline's case, it's because I am.
- Special teams played pretty well except for the first play, and that was enough of a breakdown to cost us an easy seven points.
- Overall, the defense is really close to being good. There's just that whole tackling thing that seems to have them flummoxed.
- Julio Jones was not a factor. That says a lot about our secondary.
- Peek killed us. That says a lot about our linebacking corps, and not what we want to hear.
- Great job by Lones Seiber. That's two games in a row he has played well.
- Great job by Ryan Tydlacka. Maybe our kicking game is not as bad as Brooks feared.
- What a great stable of running backs Alabama has. UK's is not bad, but dang...
- The better team won. No doubt about it.
That's about it. It was what we expected, but I would say that UK was at least competitive in this game, and even though there is less positive to take away than I would like, it was not all negative like last Saturday. Alabama played pretty much mistake-free football, even if their execution was a little off today. You almost never beat a team as good as they are without mistakes, and they simply never gave UK a chance.
Next week, the road beckons. It couldn't be any less friendly than Commonwealth Stadium has been over the last fortnight, could it?
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the fg fake was a totally cheap and dirty move. okay we may have played “dirty football” but its not like rich brooks is on the sidelines telling the players to late hit receivers. saban faked the fg and then instead of running it he decided to try and get one more td just to run up to score. there is no excuse for that. there is a reason so many ppl hate him.
Good thoughts, Tru
Hartline just doesn’t have the talent, doesn’t have “it”. Seems like we’re always a couple of pieces away from being pretty good football teams.
by ukbulldog on Oct 3, 2009 4:25 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Not to defend
Hartline, but one of those interceptions bounced right off the receivers chest. What I don’t understand is how the one play wasn’t a safety. The guys knee touched down in the end zone, not on the 1 inch line. Just because he crossed the line it shouldn’t matter. It would be no different if the play started on the 5 yard line and then the quarterback was sacked in the end zone, which would be a safety. All hell broke loose after that play. We need Morgan Newton to really progress next year where he can battle Hartline for playing time or at least share playing time.
This is a good point, Grass
Two of the turnovers are on Hartline, for sure, but Locke losing the ball at the end of the 1st half, which totally changed the game, was just terrible luck. And, as you note, one other INT hits the receiver right in the chest. The receivers are still not pulling their weight. T.C. Drake dropped one from Cobb that could have gone a long way in the 3rd quarter also. That was the end of the Wildcat, if I recall correctly. Hartline didn’t lose this game by himself.
That Lock turnover ...
… was just bad luck.
Maybe we should just bulldoze Commonwealth Stadium and start over. We have more bad luck there than on the darn road. :-(
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My gripe about that play ...
… was that his receiver was covered. Even if he had caught it, the defensive player was in position to force a fumble. Plus, it was another over the middle route that Alabama was sitting on all day. All the tipping around was just a little bad luck, but you have to understand where you need to place a ball like that.
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There was a football game today?
was that what the tents were for?
Poster’s note: if that was too sarcastic, my sincerest apologies. I’m ashamed of myself… truly, truly ashamed.
LOL
No matter where you're at, there you are
Only got to see the 1st qtr and a bit of the 2nd
I thought the Cats looked much more determined and weren’t backing down. The running game was having measurable success and the defense looked solid. When you look at the box score Kentucky held their own, considering we are an unranked team playing the #3 team in the country. Bama’s total offense was only 50 yards up on us – not bad at all.
The biggest thing which comes across in the box score was the turnovers. I only heard the score updates on the radio and it seems the momentary meltdown happened at the end of the half. I’ll watch the game later but it seems every game, win or lose, has that “old Kentucky” moment. When (yes “when” not “if”) Kentucky gets past their haunted past the games will be less gut wrenching on what could have been. Hopefully, when I see the game replay I won’t see what I fear – Hartline ’08.
From what little I was able to see, there is hope that Kentucky has regained some momentum for a brutal road trip. The worst of the schedule is over, lets look forward to the rest of the season. EKU and La/Monroe aren’t that far off.
Rich Brooks
Glad to see some criticism of Rich Brooks. I have always felt that Brooks has been somewhat overrated as a coach. Not to take anything away from the achievements of the program under him but I never have considered him to be a great football coach. His teams the past two weeks have seemed under prepared and overwhelmed. Personal fouls also can be a poor reflection on the coach.
I think ...
… that he did a good job with some things, but I think that repeated personal fouls, like we have seen in the last two games, is on the coach, and I don’t like it one bit. Guys should lose their job for too many PF’s, especially obvious late hits, and we are seeing too many of those. They need to stop.
The game plan was good, and when we weren’t giving the football to Alabama, reasonably well executed. A young true freshman corner got burned on a TD because of injuries. That play is just football, not on anybody. But the egregiously poor tackling on several Alabama runs is a recurring problem that needs to be addressed, and recurring problems belong at the coach’s feet.
The coach has to get some blame for both of the last two games. In the Florida game, we were just unprepared. Brooks took the blame for that game and deserved it. We were much better prepared for this one, but the really poor turnovers killed us. Hartline should know better by now, and should have gotten over locking on to receivers. This is the SEC. You get maybe 5 seconds to throw, and if you need more, you can get them on the bench.
I think the offensive line had a great game overall. The D-line was just okay, but they had some really good moments.
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Bent out of shape
Everyone needs to stop being so bent out of shape and bitchy about the team. Who on earth expected UK to defeat UF or Alabama? Everyone thought at the beginning of the season that we would be sitting pretty well at 2-2 after the first four games. Guess what, we are 2-2. The true test for this team comes over the next few weeks as we begin to play the middle tier SEC teams. Everyone has their panties in a bunch about the way the team has played, which is a fair opinion but it seems to me like people just want to gripe about things when IMO it’s much too early to do so. Am i entirely happy with the personnel right now? No, but do I think the coaches are playing the best people they have at the moment? Yes. Everyone needs to relax and enjoy the fact that football is here and there is more to watch on tv now than baseball.
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I can live with the outcome.
I am not satisfied with the performance. It was better, but four turnovers?
That’s not good. And two of them on brain-dead plays. That’s what galls me.
We could have been in that game but for that. We probably would still have lost, Alabama is a better team, but I think we have a right to expect a better performance than four turnovers — to zero.
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I agree with you BUT
most commentary regarding the state of our cats isnt nearly as reasoned as yours.
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It's post like these
which make me angry. I am a season ticket holder, and sorry, it is not acceptable losing to the #1 and #3 team the way we have the last 2 weeks. Last time I checked, UK was a division 1 school…And a D1 school should nevere give up 31 pts tp another D1 school…Do you think when other SEC tems play the UK basketball team their fans say oh well, it’s the UK basketball team so you know, we can never beat them…Malarkey! This coaching staff needs to be held accountable for this piss por showing UK has shown the last 2 weeks. I am very pissed at Rich and Joker right now. If we need to take our ear plugs out as Rich says and climb the ladder in the SEC east, then our offense needs to get better fast. Otherwise UK will be setting at home during the holidays.
by uk_cantbestopped on Oct 3, 2009 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions
What does being a season ticket holder have to do with anything
I have season tickets myself.
Im just really sick of people whining and bitching about the team. You have absolutely no ability to affect change so most of the time all your griping gets you is angry and annoyed which is a pretty crappy way to spend a football season. And who are you to gripe about Rich and Joker. Perhaps you remember the last few years before their arrival. Everyone can argue the merits of their improvements to the program. Parisguy comes to my mind first when being skeptical about their achievements over the last few years. All I have to say to everyone with said opinion is perhaps you would enjoy 2-9 seasons more and then you can stop you bitching about how bad the team, coach, and administration are.
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maybe you are ok
with giving up 31 pts in the 1sr qtr to a team but I am not….And I have never been a fan of Joker Phillips playcalling. It’s fans like you who will accept mediocrity when it comes to the football program. Am I glad UK has won 3 straight bowl games, yes, I am…But the way the offense has performed the last 2 weeks is unacceptable. Period. If our football program is going to climb the SEC east ladder (like Brooks wants) then they need to play better than they have the last 2 weeks. The way they are playing right now a 4th straight bowl is probably not going to happen. And that pisses me off.
by uk_cantbestopped on Oct 3, 2009 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions
They deserve some criticism.
But not all of it. And they called a good game today in my opinion.
Nobody likes to lose, but it is a fact of life when you are somehow trying to climb up from the slime in a league like the SEC. What I am unhappy with, primarily, are the dumb interceptions that keep happening because Hartline has no firm clue what it takes to win in the SEC, and the outrageous personal fouls. Both those should not have been this egregious, and I blame Brooks and Phillips for that.
But they are doing mostly the right things, if not all. I loved the playcalling today, it was very good — far better than the Florida game and the offense had moments of real solid play. What we must do is sustain that, and eliminate the dumb mistakes.
Defensively, we were about as good as we could be against a team like Alabama with both our starting corners hurt. We had to play a lot of zone, and that gave Alabama spots to find their tight end. The D-line did OK sometimes, but other times it looked overmatched – both can’t be true.
Kentucky will never be an SEC challenger with Hartline as quarterback. He may be the best we have now, but he simply doesn’t have the skills to be an SEC quarterback.
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The team keeps making steps
albeit, baby steps but progress continues. Basketball fans have the advantage of rallying around a team that can overnight go from abyssmal to incredible. Of course it helps when you doing it at a university known for it’s basketball tradition. Kentucky basketball is also blessed with the historical hardware and present facilities to make that quantum leap in a very short period.
The football program takes longer, much longer, because of two things – football inherently takes longer due to the size of roster and at Kentucky it takes longer because we don’t have that history and don’t have the top tier of facilities compared to othere SEC schools.
For now, mediocrity is an improvement over what existed before Coach Brooks. I’d say we’d also be a bit further along without a couple of critical setbacks. How do you think we’d look with Curtis Pulley behind center instead of Hartline? We’ll never really know but I’d say this team would have a totally different, wide open look. That alone seems to be the impetus of our recruiting both Newton and Mossy along with other top tier quarterbacks. Brooks isn’t going to get himself into this mess again.
On A Happier Note
24,000 tickets in 45 minutes - And it’s practice.
"The principle of spending money to be paid by posterity, under the name of funding, is but swindling futurity on a large scale."
—Thomas Jefferson
Heh.
That is really something. To others, that is. To us … heck, we were doing that when things were going badly. :-)
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My girlfriend...
…went to the game with me and she’s not much of a sports person (outside of cross country/track & field) and wondered who “those guys in the endzone” were that got the loudest cheers during the game. :) I explained to her that Kentucky’s enthusiasm for basketball is akin to Alabama’s for football.
It reminded me of last year when I was at the Notre Dame at North Carolina football game and Tyler Hansbrough was introduced at half time because of some record he set. Easily the loudest cheers of that day.
Of course, that’s no different than when Nick Saban made his first public appearance at the half of the LSU/Bama basketball game. Easily drowned out any other cheers that night.
Heh.
That’s one reason I like Alabama. They are kindred spirits in their passion, I think the only other fan base in the SEC that is as crazy about a sport as UK fans are. :-)
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I agree with that.
I went to a wedding in Owensboro a few years ago and only knew the bride and groom. So I wouldn’t be miserable, they sat me at a table with folks they knew I’d get along with. After a fun night out on the town, we ended up in some diner at 3 or 4am and ultimately agreed that as far as fan passion goes that Kentucky basketball = Alabama football.
By the way there Nico......you guys let Auburn slip through your fingers in
the Iron Bowl, and I am going to be disappointed in you this year…..my sister lives in Prattville and all I have heard all year is what you guys are gonna do to Auburn….(and us)….lol
Remember, we're having fun now!!!
We let Auburn win this year....
…and there’ll be mass hysteria in the Alabama half of the state. Breaking the streak is not enough, we’ve got to at least get a few in a row.
When did you guys let Auburn have half of the state????......lol
geez….you guys are slipping…..I thought it was like UK-UL here….Auburn was just an afterthought??
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Funny...
…that you mention that about ‘half the state.’ I actually thought about that after I posted it, but didn’t bother to change it. There’s a reason we call Auburn “little brother.” Who else could go undefeated in the SEC and sit out the national championship game?
Kentucky is a Basketball State
As I recall, we do pretty good at that. Coach Brooks has brought the football team farther than other coaches. We just played perhaps the the two best teams in the country. We got beat. Let’s move on. Win at SC, and move on to a fourth consecutive bowl game and respectability.
While we wait for what most of Kentucky fans long for. Basketball. That’s the way it is. Hopefully, not always — I’d love to see UK in the hunt for football glory. Let’s go for respect in football this year and scare the hell out of teams as basketball gods in a few weeks. The shoe always turns with the seasons in Kentucky.
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Cincy
That is the way it has allways been!
Happy Days are here again The sky is all ways BLUE again Happy days are here again !
I apologize for being out of pocket today
folks….all I got to do today was listen on the radio, I could come up with a hundred rationalizations for what has happened for the last two weeks, but none will make any more sense than this. WE are not an SEC caliber team. Only one person bears the weight of that statement.
Coach has never hesitated to accept responsibility, so for as far as that goes, nothing more can be said. Whatever happens from here completely depends on how far the powers that be want this program to go. It all comes down to this, either settle for mediocrity, or decide to get better. Until that decision is made, we have nothing more than a second tier BCS program, capable only of beating up on Div II and bottom feeder teams, and pulling off the occasional Bluegrass Miracle.
I wish it was not so…….
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One player...
can make a difference. If we had a quarterback capable of playing at the SEC level, we would have been in the game today. If I could vote on who the quarterback is, i would vote to start developing for the future. We aren’t going to win many with Hartline anyway.
OL Improved But Oh Those Mistakes
"A loss is a loss,you never feel good about losses. "
"The principle of spending money to be paid by posterity, under the name of funding, is but swindling futurity on a large scale."
—Thomas Jefferson
From a Bama fan...
I was really impressed with Kentucky today. For most of the first half, you guys gave us all we could handle…Bama is an extremely well-conditioned team, and it eventually showed…but wow, for most of that first half, the guys in Blue were absolutely flying around the field, jumping around, and fired up. Even though I was rooting for the other team, as someone who loves football in general, I love to see that.
And that Randall Cobb…WOW! What a talent! That kid is phenominal, no bones about it. One of the best all-around players I’ve seen in the SEC in a very long time.
I know you guys aren’t happy with the way things turned out this evening, but I really saw a lot of fire and passion in the way Kentucky played…and sometimes that means more than shear talent. I hope Kentucky can turn the corner and win a 4th straight bowl for the SEC this year!
Thanks, man.
The sentiment is appreciated. Great game, noble victory.
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Hartline Still #1 QB
"He gives us our best chance to win"
"The principle of spending money to be paid by posterity, under the name of funding, is but swindling futurity on a large scale."
—Thomas Jefferson
Kind of sounds like BCG's comments
on Porter huh? Porter, Hartline…..I have the same feeling towards both..not SEC caliber talent for either. But why can the B-Ball team hire a fantastic coach that brings in John Wall, but nobody thinks we can have “THE” quarterback? Is Rich Brooks our equal to BCG? Shouldn’t have to accept mediocrity at any sport at UK!
by The Fake Calipari on Oct 3, 2009 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions
You will not see ...
… Brooks change QB’s unless Hartline just completely breaks down. That’s just the way it is, and the way he coaches.
But I just don’t believe Hartline is an SEC starting QB. We are stuck with him this year, but he is not the answer.
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Exactly
Neither would Billy not start Porter and look where that got us. Flash forward to status quo in basketball (Wall) and tell me why can we not have “The” (atleast an SEC talented) quarterback as well?
by The Fake Calipari on Oct 4, 2009 12:06 AM EDT reply actions
Let's be serious.
We all expected UK to lose to Florida and Alabama. What we didn’t (don’t) expect to do was (is) lose to those teams that match up fairly well to us. I, for one, will be one of the loudest cheerers for our team next week. South Carolina matches up well with us, and from what I saw, now is the time to take advantage of the disadvantages that they deliver. Even though we’re away from home, there are many ways we can win…provided Mike can be the quarterback we all hoped he could be. The idea is, there is plenty of season to be salvaged, and we have plenty of time to recover from the games that we expected to lose. C’mon…who wouldn’t love yet another bowl game, no matter how obscure? :D
This game does give me hope ...
… for next week.
Keep running the football, get rid of the dumb penalties and brain-dead turnovers, and this team has a chance to beat anybody outside of the top ten or so.
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oh btw
As always…
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Sitting at 2-2 is not the problem
.
Of course I did not expect us to beat Florida or Alabama (I predicted 6 wins on the season), the outcomes of those games were pretty much out of our control. The things I have been “bitchy” about are the things that are under our own direct control: mental preparation, coaching, and amount of effort.
All three of those have been lacking to alarming degrees at various times through the first 4 games. And I will remain in 100% disagreement with anyone who states that with a third of the season gone it is still “too early” to complain about those basic things that are entirely within our own control. Is it tolerable to other teams in the SEC to wait until the season is a third over to start showing mental preparation and effort? I don’t think so—- and that is part of the reason why their names are always listed above ours in the league standings every year.
As for Hartline: He is able to run plays. He is not showing an ability to make plays. How that is supposed to make us competitive in the SEC is an ongoing mystery.
The team’s level of effort yesterday was much improved. The running game was effective, the special teams outstanding, play calling much less frustrating and …. no major coaching/game management blunders!
Have we grown enough in games 1-4 to be in a position to go on the road and end the losing streak against Coach Spurrier in game 5? Or beat Auburn on the road in game 6? It seems to me that the first 4 games have only really progressed us to the point of “crossing our fingers and hoping.”
by Sonic on Oct 4, 2009 10:43 AM EDT reply actions
Yeah ...
… I think this is about right.
If UK can bring the wood defensively against USC like they did against ‘Bama, I think we have a chance in that game. USC’s offense is pretty similar to Alabama, nothing strange, just hard-nosed football. They throw it more, but their quarterback is less skilled, so I think that is a plus overall.
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Well put
“runs plays” instead of “makes plays”. Good way to put Hartline’s ability.
He seemed to make fewer play changes at the line against Bama which Brooks stated was an intent going into the game. That’s an improvement since I’ve rarely seen him change a play into some great call. That being said, I obviously can’t tell which ones he’s changing but then I also haven’t seen that many great plays after one of his real/fake audibles at the line.
The thing is
Im just not sure that UK is good enough in football for fans to crab so much about the state of play when we are where we thought we would be. If that makes sense.
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The part that doesnt make sense is the WAY WE LOSE
I hate moral victories. I despise someone standing up and saying we lost, BUT. However, if I may be allowed to break my own rule here, we looked , to borrow a quote from Randy Quaid in a now classic racing film, “a monkey f***ing a football out there”, not a team playing it for the last two weeks. We have made more errors in play, judgement, coaching,and all-around football execution in the last two weeks than we made the last two months of the season last year. I understand losing,rebuilding, even just treading water. But we are not playing respectable football. That is unacceptable. Last time I checked some of those lower stadium tickets are getting pretty expensive. Seems like we should at least make an attempt to earn a little of that money.
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Ugh. Stupid phone....
What I was trying to ask was do you have a crystal ball that would help is know which tram is going to show up? That would be handy dandy, ABC:-)
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by a2d2 on Oct 5, 2009 10:12 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Phone still winning
That should say team not tram! LOL
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by a2d2 on Oct 5, 2009 10:21 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Based upon what I saw the last three weeks.....
I think 5-7 will be pure unadulterated luck on our part. S.Carolina is as good as their hype, so is Auburn. We win the La Monroe and Eastern games, Vandy and MsState are tossups and we only win one of those….Georgia takes us to the woodshed for fun, and UT is so angry by the time we play them, they lay waste to the entire team just because Lane Kiffin got a tweet from Coach Brooks saying he only gets embarassed on the field!
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La Monroe
A colleague of mine says that game wont be the “gimme” everyone is looking forward to.
It is not worth an intelligent man’s time to be in the majority. By definition, there are already enough people to do that.
by kentuckygirl0724 on Oct 5, 2009 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions
We lose to La Monroe and we might not have to
wait much longer to see our HCIW……Rich might just pack it in…..
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Exactly.
It is not worth an intelligent man’s time to be in the majority. By definition, there are already enough people to do that.
by kentuckygirl0724 on Oct 6, 2009 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions
I think you are still missing it, davw
.
All records of 2-2 are not “created equal”.
Scenario A.
We could be going into game 5 with a 2-2 record, but with a clear team identity of being well coached, disciplined, mentally tough and hard hitting. All things within our control.
Scenario B.
Instead, we are going into game 5 with a 2-2 record and still no idea what kind of team is going to show up next Saturday. Critical mental breakdowns? Very possible. Back-breaking game management blunders? Not out of the question. Outplayed in terms of effort? Could happen. Outcoached? Likely.
The first 4 games of the season squandered in terms of creating Scenario A and putting ourselves in a much better position for games 5-6? Yes, if you ask me.
by Sonic on Oct 4, 2009 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions
They are if you are a fan of UK football otherwise your just going to be
disappointed and depressed.
Enjoy it.
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I understand your point, davw
And I know that as UK football fans we have to sometimes find mind tricks to give ourselves a reason to walk into Commonwealth Stadium week after week….
But just going with the flow, and accepting mediocrity, in terms of what our actual record against better teams in the SEC eventually shakes itself out to be is one thing. That I can understand.
But accepting mediocrity of things that are under our direct control is an entirely different issue. And never acceptable.
And no, it does not depress me at all. It makes me think that the team, coaches, and even some fans are eventually getting exactly what they deserve. Which is a very good chance of losses in games 5-6, which started out before the season as potentially winnable games.
by Sonic on Oct 5, 2009 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions
The outlook was rosier
when we took Brooks word for it that “Hartline is greatly improved” and our defensive secondary was called rock solid.
Direct Control
But it’s not under your direct control. The only one with control would be Brooks and judging by his comments Hartline give us the best chance to win. Brooks isnt terribly thrilled with Hartline’s play BUT at this time we have no better option. I just dont think you can stand pulling Randal Cobb off the line of scrimmage. He would have anyone to throw to.
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