Morning Newspaper for January 7th
by Truzenzuzex on Jan 7, 2009 7:43 AM EST
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Vanderbilt is now on the horizon, and the beginning of SEC play. Last year, Vanderbilt was the springboard for the Wildcats' amazing run through the SEC. Will that happen again this year?
Now, for the news.
Kentucky Basketball News
- Patterson posterizes Earl Clark.
- Matt Jones thinks Galloway has been strangely utilized this year. He has a point, but I expect that to change during the conference season. Exactly how, though, is anybody's guess.
- Fans weigh in on conference season expectations.
- Jerry Tipton discusses his ballot for the AP top 25
- The 'Cats learned some lessons from the Louisville game, and most of them seem right. I don't think we are going to have one scorer emerge, but more of a committee approach. There are several who could be the guy on a given night, but we do need to make sure someone steps up.
- UK Wildcat Country notices that Seth Davis has once again damned Kentucky with faint praise. Embrace the hate, guys. But he's right about one thing -- Seth Davis writes as though he has never seen the subject of his pap play. He is unquestionably the most incompetent national sports commentator in the business.
- Chris Dortch does a Q&A about UK with Kentucky Sports Report.
- Vanderbilt Sports Line thinks their road to the NCAA runs through Rupp Arena on Saturday. And this is news? Note to Commodore fans -- remember last year at Memorial Gym? We do.
Kentucky Football/Other news
- UK Football on the right track. I was totally skeptical of the Brooks hire, and I was wrong. I'm glad.
- Victoria Dunlap is SEC Player of the Week for UK hoops.
- Mark Wiedmer makes the case that SEC basketball is not as down as the national punditry seems to think. I'm beginning to agree.
- More Facebook Follies from Matt Jones at KSR. Let's all keep our fingers crossed.
NCAA Basketball News
- Utah puts the hurt on the LSU Tigers.
- Pelphries Piggies defeat the Longhorns. Great game.
- Purdue undone at Penn State.
- Louisville had some aircraft trouble yesterday. Airplanes and the Cardinals are not getting along real well this year.
- Four questions for Dick Vitale.
- Mike Miller notes that Pitt has never been ranked #1 before now.
- Alabama drops a tough one at Clemson. Clemson is very, very good if you try to play them up tempo.
NCAA Football News
- Tulsa crushes Ball State in the GMAC Bowl. How is it that GM can be in such dire straits financially and still have a bowl named after it? I'm just glad that we faced ECU and not Tulsa in the Liberty Bowl.
- The SEC continues to make the case that it is the best conference in college football. I thought we settled this long ago ...
- Tim Tebow gets more well-earned accolades.
- Florida congressman wants to move votes to accommodate the BCS national championship game.
- Mike Celizic is daydreaming again.
- Oh, for God's sake. Will this never end?
Other News of Interest
- Steve Moss of WKYT picks his Kentucky Sportsman of the Year. A good choice, too.
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Pelphry
I am absolutely impressed by his job thus far. I would have to think that he is the early leader for SEC coach of the year.
Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."
by chirop1 on Jan 7, 2009 7:54 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
Another big win for him. If we can beat Arkansas and Tennessee our stock goes up quite a bit!!!
by slidemank on Jan 7, 2009 8:20 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Arkansas
I watched the last 15 minutes of the game and Arkansas looked very tough. It’s great to see Pelphrey doing so well. It was almost like watching the CATS play. When these two teams meat its going to be a tough off. We play very similarly to each other.
DEEETROIT BASKETBALLL!!!
by davw83 on Jan 7, 2009 8:49 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I am nervous
as all get out when I read articles saying we are going to dominate the SEC. Yall I want people disrespecting us right now. Its motivation for us to kick some tail. Last year our backs were against the wall. Not so much this time. Just look right now at what has already happened to the Big East/ACC. Some wins and losses that weren’t expected. You can say that Tenn is not as good and others, but they will bring it just like we did last year. OOC is over. They will be fighting for the NCAA life and will bring their A game. I don’t see one team in the SEC that we will beat if we dont’ bring our A game. We can have a reversal of fortune from last year if we aren’t careful.
by tenken on Jan 7, 2009 10:07 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I'm going to disagree
just a little. I think UK will defeat Alabama, Ole Miss, Georgia and Auburn handily unless there is a total offensive/defensive collapse, which we haven’t seen all year (eh, maybe VMI game). Those teams are just way down this year. But that being said, the rest of the SEC is no cupcake schedule. SC and Arkansas are looking much better than expected. Miss St. still has Varnado, although they have not played will so far this year. Vandy is no longer a bottom feeder. Florida has a lot of talent, but have played only one none cupcake so far (L to Syracuse).
the REAL fake Mr. Bob Dobalina
Formerly known as "senowen"
by bluesquire on Jan 7, 2009 10:58 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Jody Demling has some updates this morning on his blog
Hood had 25 points, 15 rebounds and a big steal late in the game.
Euton had 18 points and 8 rebounds.
by OGETARTS on Jan 7, 2009 11:06 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Thanks, and good to hear. It looks like Euton and Miller have played well of late. How's Vilarino doing this season?
by blbskue on Jan 7, 2009 12:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Vilarino is having a good season
His last game on 12/30 he had 14 points, 8 rebounds and 6 assists.
by OGETARTS on Jan 7, 2009 12:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Treating this as an open thread
I’ve been listening to the call-in shows lately and I’m wondering something… are the screeners for the show really that inept or are Kentucky fans really as ignorant across the board as they seem?
There was a guy on Monday who claimed he followed a lot of college ball and was complaining about our lack of having a big guy inside like Kansas and other teams and wanted to know if Gillispie was going to do anything about it. 1) Kansas doesn’t have an elite quality big man. 2) We do. 3) Any fan with half a brain and an interest in Kentucky basketball would know that we have Orton and Pilgrim next year.
A week ago or so on the Joe B and Denny show, a guy called in and said that Kentucky needed more Kentucky born kids who “really know what it means to play for UK” on their team to improve our ranking nationally. Dave Jennings (the “moderator” of the show) responded “Oh, you mean like Josh Carrier and Brandon Stockton?” To which the caller responded “Yeah.”
All sorts of other examples could be made of “fans” who obviously don’t follow the game or even know when they’re being made fun of. Is the state of Kentucky fandom really this low? I find it hard to believe that our fans are this clueless… but with fan being short for “fanatic” I suppose they must be.
Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."
by chirop1 on Jan 7, 2009 12:03 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Kansas Does, Too
Cole Aldrich is a 7-footer from Twin Cities and very talented big man.
by FortyYearCatFan on Jan 7, 2009 12:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Fans
Ya know, I think a lot of these call in shows are like the news. You ever notice when something big happens in KY that make national news, they always pick the most ignorant redneck (usually with no shirt or shoes) in the state to interview about it? Same thing with the call in shows. Plus I think a lot of people that call in think they know more than anybody else and want everybody to hear it. But hey, we have a ton of great, knowledgeable fans too. There are plenty of them right here on this site!
by slidemank on Jan 7, 2009 12:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Knowledgable Fans
Most of the knowledgable fans arent calling in to these shows. We already know what the call in folks are thinking and get our media in other ways.
I swear some the screeners either pick these guys for the entertainment value or these people are the only one calling in.
DEEETROIT BASKETBALLL!!!
by davw83 on Jan 7, 2009 12:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Right on slide.
I think maybe a lot of those call-in people are UK fans that perhaps have no internet access or even a computer to follow what happens in recruiting and every little tidbit of news about UK athletics. They probably get a daily newspaper and watch the local news and games on TV. But really there is no comparison when comparing what one learns from the internet and excellent UK sites, as ASoB is undoubtedly.
But I give those call-in fans props. They are a part of the Big Blue Nation and I would never put them down. Some questions may sound “not so right”, but give them some leeway considering.
by kykat51 on Jan 7, 2009 1:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Call-In Shows are the Worst!
I never listen to them because they make my skin crawl with embarassment. Have any of y’all ever called in to one? If you have then I apologize in advance for this: my personal theory is that the kind of person who would spend such a long amount of time dialing and redialing a number trying to get through so they could be on the radio probably has a LOT of free time on their hands, you know? Children, drunk people, the “differently-abled”…you know what I’m saying? Probably not our best and brightest who, as davw says, would, if they wanted to voice their thoughts, would use a forum that didn’t require them to keep repeatedly dialing a busy extention—like a message board or blog.
by blue kentucky girl on Jan 7, 2009 1:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
blue kentucky girl
They are a different breed of fan as I posted above. But they are still fans of the Big Blue.
And no, I have never called into a radio show, but I enjoy listening to them and hear comments from both Brooks and Gillispie. Their comments sometimes are very funny.
by kykat51 on Jan 7, 2009 1:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
And some (most) of their comments
are very stupid.
by kentuckygirl0724 on Jan 8, 2009 8:24 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Like the same amount of time we all have on our hands
to post, hit refresh, post later. . .
by blbskue on Jan 7, 2009 5:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I enjoy the occaisional comment and question
I enjoyed during the week of Christmas when a caller asked what Billy G’s plans for the guys were for Christmas “You gonna bring them over to your house to play that baby grand?” To which the coach responded “Well, actually we have practice scheduled that day.” I also enjoyed when a caller on Monday asked “With SEC play starting this weekend, what can you tell me about Vanderbilt?” And Coach went into a lenghty discussion on the strength of their point guard and the inside play of Ogilvy with some interesting insight.
Unfortunately, all too often when listening to the show I feel like fans just call to get on the air and then get so awestruck they don’t know what to ask and I’m reminded of the time when I was about 8 years old and we went to Universal Studios. I waited in line for over half an hour to sit in KITT and ask it a question and when I got there all I could think to ask was “How fast can you go?” just like all the other dumbstruck elementary age boys in line before me. In retrospect, I would have loved to get KITT’s insight into the politics of the Cold War or some other topic of philosophical conversation. ;-)
Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."
by chirop1 on Jan 7, 2009 1:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
There's a bit of self-selection bias in call-in shows
As dav mentions, fans who stay up to date with the team and college basketball don’t call in which leaves everybody else. I think this is a universal phenomenon, not just limited to KY.
I can’t listen to call-in shows, by and large. The combination of poor thinking and lack of knowledge is just too much for me to take. That’s one of the reasons I loved Tony Kornheiser’s show back when it was on ESPN radio – he never took calls.
"That's not a Sherman tank, it's Frank Thomas!" - Monkeyball
by JLeverenz on Jan 7, 2009 1:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah
I can’t even listen to call-in shows on NPR, and those callers are generally really knowledgable and highly educated. The format just makes me cringe. It’s not a Kentucky thing—I think people just sound less than with-it in general in the format. Like chirop says, anyone can turn dumbstruck and stammering when you thrust them on a public stage in the presence of someone (or some talking car ; ) that they admire.
by blue kentucky girl on Jan 7, 2009 3:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Brooks Wasn't A "Choice"
Not to say that Mitch Barnhart’s decision to employ Rich Brooks wasn’t a good or, indeed, surprisingly good, but it does get a bit tiresome to keep having it depicted as a choice. Doing so insinuates that Brooks was selected from a group of enthusiastic candidates when the truth of the matter is Brooks was a somewhat reluctant last resort. It has, to the benefit of all involved, been a forced gamble that has paid great dividends.
by Wild Weasel on Jan 7, 2009 12:07 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Meh, it's always a choice
Yes, he didn’t beat out Bill Parcells (or Shanahan, or whomever else was ridiculously rumored to be interested), but I would bet your paycheck that UK could have had its pick of any number of BCS co-ordinators and/or HCs from lower division schools. SEC head jobs just don’t grow on trees. So it was Barnhart’s choice to bring in a retread over the next hot young thing (male coaching division).
C! A! T! S! CATS! CATS! CATS!
by NYCCats on Jan 7, 2009 12:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Partly a chocie.
Barnhart had many people turn down offers or take their name of the hat including: Parcells, current Duke coach David Cutcliffe, ex- UGA coach Jim Donnan, the genius offensive coordinator Norm Chow, and Mike Kruczek then Central Florida’s head coach, now the Arizona Cardinals’ offensive coordinator.
Doug Williams, the former Redskins QB and successful Grambling head coach, very badly wanted the job and many in the media wanted him to have the job too. He would have been the first African American head football coach in the SEC.
Since many of the people “turned down” the job days before Brooks was hired, it is difficult to know if they saw the writing on the wall, and withdrew their names as an effort to save credibility or genuinely lacked interest.
Regardless, Barnhart had options other than Brooks and made the quite unpopular of tabbing Brooks to come to UK.
Two months (!). Two weeks. Two pencils.
by Thomas Hunt Morgan on Jan 7, 2009 3:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Call in shows
I’ll just hang up and listen to you fellers talk.
AAHHHHHH!!!
DEEETROIT BASKETBALLL!!!
by davw83 on Jan 7, 2009 12:54 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Matt Jones
Lol…Matt is one of those blog guys that follows Facebook for news on the players. I hope that Micah’s comments are for real. Hell who knows with these guys? They can change day to day. Hope you decide to stay Micah!
by kykat51 on Jan 7, 2009 3:21 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I think someone needs to go on over
to Matt’s site and get those people voting for Daniels and Crawford in the D-league All-Star game. He did a pretty good job on some voting thing for a UK Cheerleader. 40?
by blbskue on Jan 7, 2009 5:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ahh that is a great idea.
Tru , why don’t you e-mail the Fake. I am sure he would get it started over on KSR.
by kykat51 on Jan 7, 2009 8:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Seth Davis:
“unquestionably the most incompetent national sports commentator in the business.”
Worse than The Loathsome Troll?
Now that is some strong language!
Two months (!). Two weeks. Two pencils.
by Thomas Hunt Morgan on Jan 7, 2009 3:47 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
The Loathsome Troll ...
… is competent, as far as that goes. He’s just unethical.-
A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan
by Truzenzuzex on Jan 7, 2009 5:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Seth Davis makes talk show callers seem like MENSA members by comparison
"That's not a Sherman tank, it's Frank Thomas!" - Monkeyball
by JLeverenz on Jan 7, 2009 6:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
This is a syndicated column?
For those of you who do not read small town newspapers, there is a guy by the name of Bob Watkins that has a syndicated column called “Sports In Kentucky” that is printed weekly in small newspapers around the state. You should check out his view of the UK/UL game. It is hard to believe that you can get paid for publishing articles about sports in this state and yet not have any sports knowledge. What a waste.
Here is a link:
www.paintsvilleherald.com/cat_index_5.shtml
by wklawdog on Jan 7, 2009 9:31 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
He's actually quite knowledgeable
He knows more about obscure high school coaches and players across the state than any journalist I know. I’ve always respected his opinion. YMMV
Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."
by chirop1 on Jan 8, 2009 1:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Now that I've actually read the article
I don’t necessarily agree with his analysis of Gillispie’s coaching, but there’s nothing factually wrong about what he says either.
Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."
by chirop1 on Jan 8, 2009 1:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm Not A Watkins Fan
Anything but, just the opposite.
by FortyYearCatFan on Jan 8, 2009 3:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Bad News
Tenneessee just lost at home to Gonzaga.
by OGETARTS on Jan 7, 2009 11:30 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Good news ...
… Tyler Smith was not hurt badly, as it first appeared. :-)
A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan
by Truzenzuzex on Jan 8, 2009 6:48 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Bad news..?
Any time Tennessee loses, that’s GREAT news..lol
I know we play them next Tuesday, but it looks like Tyler Smith may be out for a few games.. That leg bent back the other way pretty good, (or bad)… hate to see that happen to a great player, but it does help UK’s chances a wee bit…
just like it helped them last year when Pat-Pat when down…
Steelers fan 1st! UK is my 2nd love.
by vinceuk1 on Jan 7, 2009 11:35 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
It IS bad news
UT was ranked 25 in the AP poll and will now drop out next week. Unless Arkansas gets ranked (they had zero votes last week in either poll), there will be noone from the SEC ranked next week and probably 8-9 Big East, 4-5 ACC, 4ish Big Ten… you get the idea. Its a sad state of affairs and I’m willing to bet that it has never happened in the history of the AP poll.
Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."
by chirop1 on Jan 8, 2009 1:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I freaked out
when I saw TN lose. Hate it. But you know Kentucky needs to bring their A game no matter if they won or lost this game. Tennesse’s defense is horrible. Time for PP and Jodie to score alot of points.
by tenken on Jan 7, 2009 11:48 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Tennessee ...
… has never played defense worthy of note under Pearl. The only real defense they have is the full court press, and if that fails to produce a turnover, most teams can just go down and score. UT’s half-court defense is just barely adequate to avoid being an oxymoron.
A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan
by Truzenzuzex on Jan 8, 2009 6:52 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Clemson/Alabama
Looks like Clemson wasnt so weak after all…..
by kentuckygirl0724 on Jan 8, 2009 8:28 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I give Alabama a lot of credit
They looked a lot better than when I saw them towards the beginning of the season. They played good defense and forced Clemson into one of their worst performances of the season. Maybe they’ll be closer to the middle of the pack in the SEC than I originally thought.
"That's not a Sherman tank, it's Frank Thomas!" - Monkeyball
by JLeverenz on Jan 8, 2009 10:13 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
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