Morning Newspaper for January 6th
Time to move along to the SEC Season. 11-4 is not horrible for the OOC portion of our schedule, and even though we didn't manage to defeat many NCAA tournament-quality teams, we will have some chances from here on out. Kentucky needs to make the best of that.
And now, the news:

Kentucky Basketball News
- Louisville avoids a collapse against Kentucky.
- 'Cats have reason for hope. Story thinks UK's NCAA stock is up, and Louisville's is down. But to be fair, Down from the Final Four is not far down.
- Bozich talks to an NBA scout, about the dumbest form of basketball life on the planet.
- Chris Diggs has thoughts about the UK-U of L game. I join him in disagreement with the fans who argue Porter should have been up in Sosa's face. Sosa took exactly the shot that you would want -- a beyond NBA-range three. He just made it. You wouldn't want to risk putting him on the line with 3 15-foot tries to beat you, or have him drive into the lane for a short shot.
- Jody Demling reports that K.C. Ross-Miller is getting it done.
- Mike Decourcy shares thoughts on the Wildcats with Larry Vaught. DeCourcy is one of my favorites.
- Lessons learned, the 'Cats move on.
- NCAA Hoops Today has thoughts about UK-U of L.
- Nice article featuring Josh Harrellson.
Kentucky Football/Other UK News
NCAA Basketball News
- The Irish trip up the Hoyas.
- Rush the Court has more Tubby Smith rumors as well as lots of other goodness.
NCAA Football News
- Taking stock of the results so far in the bowl season.
- John Feinstein urges the AP to vote Utah #1, arguing that no losses trumps one loss, regardless of the season's competition. I think this argument is flawed, and if not, the AP (and Feinstein by extension) has only itself to blame. Did they have Utah ranked #1 going into the bowl season? No. Frankly, this argument is a laugher, in my opinion. You want a real championship? Then you need a playoff.
In basketball, we don't reward a perfect season with an NCAA championship unless it includes the tournament. There is no NCAA tournament in football, so you get what you get. It's figure skating, no matter how you look at it. He even suggests that BCS teams' alleged refusal to play Utah on the road is a reason to vote them #1.
But the real reason, in the end, appears to be Feinstein's desire to stick it in the eye of the BCS. Now there is a sentiment I can appreciate. If he would just stick to that instead of hurting his case with all the other nonsensical things, I think I would have liked it much better. - Texas doesn't do nearly enough against Ohio State to be considered for the AP #1 vote.
Comments
On the BCS
The whole BCS system is screwy. Well as far as playoffs. Utah cannot really control what teams they play on the road OC. They don’t have the luxury of basketball teams with 12-15 OOC games that they can schedule. They have how many games they can schedule? Not many at all. Utah is just as deserving as a one loss team. Especially since they handed Bama their tails. It wasn’t a fluke game either. They dominated them. Now, I am a SEC fan. I want the championship to stay here but Utah deserves a share in that as well as any team that wins on Thursday even if its the Gators. Who by the way lost AT HOME to Ole Miss. But bottom line……until the playoff system is worked on we will always have this problem. But then we will probably be arguing about who should have made the playoffs. Its human nature. We just like to gripe. We for some reason think everything should be fair and in reality life is not fair. In the whole fairness thing though, Utah has the only grudge to talk about since they did go undefeated and beat a BCS team soundly to do it.
by tenken on
Jan 6, 2009 9:40 AM EST
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Utes
…should get a share. It’s not their fault no one from the BCS conferences will schedule them for OOC games. That would be stupid on the big schools’ parts because they’d have too much to lose. Utah’s only recourse is either a playoff or find a way into the Big XII. I’m sure they’d be happy to drop Colorado, anyway.
by Anything but Gatorade on
Jan 6, 2009 10:10 AM EST
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BCS
I would rather take part in a Tubby-Gillispie-Pitino debate than argue the merits of the BCS vs. a playoff system.
by mrmondaynite on
Jan 6, 2009 12:56 PM EST
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Ole Miss
Didnt Ole Miss beat Texas Tech pretty soundly?
DEEETROIT BASKETBALLL!!!
by davw83 on
Jan 6, 2009 9:53 AM EST
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Cats Have a lot of work to do
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/bracketology
Joe Lunardi is usually very good at predicting this stuff. His track record is excellent. Right now he has the Cats listed as an 11 seed and one of the last 4 teams in….
I think UK will definitely get in the Tournament, but I would hate to get in as an 8 or 9 seed. Ugh!
by OGETARTS on
Jan 6, 2009 11:03 AM EST
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Yeah but...
He changes this thing throughout the season. If UK romps through the SEC regular season and tourney, our seed will change dramatically.
the REAL fake Mr. Bob Dobalina
Formerly known as "senowen"
by bluesquire on
Jan 6, 2009 11:10 AM EST
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Yup, Lunardi updates it a lot throughout the season
This just gives us an idea of where things stand with our non-conference schedule now completed.
by OGETARTS on
Jan 6, 2009 11:18 AM EST
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UK Will Be 5 Seed Or Better
Based on 12 or 13 SEC W.
by FortyYearCatFan on
Jan 6, 2009 11:43 AM EST
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Just curious........
Forty, how are you coming up with 5 seed or better? Last year we were 12-4 in the SEC and an 11 seed in the tournament. Even with us looking to get 4 or 5 more wins overall, it’s hard for me to see a 5 seed. Or are you banking on us winning the SEC tournament too? That I could see getting us a 4 or 5 seed. Without the SEC tournament though I would think more a 7 or 8 seed…..
by slidemank on
Jan 6, 2009 12:51 PM EST
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Exactly my thinking...
only an SECT victory will we be seeded 6 or under…which is entirely possible.
by mrmondaynite on
Jan 6, 2009 12:57 PM EST
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5 seed
It depends on the rest of the SEC really. It’s certainly plausible to think 12-4 could win the SEC this year and due to the lack of quality teams in the SEC I think the top team in the SEC would certainly garner a 5 seed.
DEEETROIT BASKETBALLL!!!
by davw83 on
Jan 6, 2009 1:01 PM EST
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Good point
Would be much improved from last season too. I just as soon see them run the table in the SEC though. Hey, I can dream can’t I?
by slidemank on
Jan 6, 2009 1:14 PM EST
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6-7 Vs OOC Last Year (11-4 This Year)
UK is one of the Top 2 or 3 SEC teams this year.
by FortyYearCatFan on
Jan 6, 2009 1:19 PM EST
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Honestly
Being an NBA scout must be one of the best jobs on the planet. It is the only job I know of, other than CEO, where you can be wrong 95% of the time and still take home a fat paycheck.
the REAL fake Mr. Bob Dobalina
Formerly known as "senowen"
by bluesquire on
Jan 6, 2009 11:13 AM EST
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Jim Mitchell
Likely was the NBA scout referenced. He is based in Lexington.
by FortyYearCatFan on
Jan 6, 2009 11:44 AM EST
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A friend of mine
dates the current head of recruiting for the 76ers. It’s the best job I’ve ever heard of. Court-side seats to just about any NBA game, but also the same for big college matchups and the like. I’m quite envious, to be honest. And the pay seems pretty darn solid as well.
by blbskue on
Jan 6, 2009 12:16 PM EST
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David Hobbs
NBA scout now, based in Carolinas (I think).
by FortyYearCatFan on
Jan 6, 2009 12:20 PM EST
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Also
w/o the stress and lack of job-security of being the coach
by blbskue on
Jan 6, 2009 12:21 PM EST
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Travel
If you have a family an NBA scout is at home less than a coach would be.
The crappiest NBA job IMO is the advance scout for games. Always traveling a few games ahead of the team never at home and having to amass hours of tape and pages of breakdowns.
If Billy G ever gets tired of coaching it would be his dream job.
DEEETROIT BASKETBALLL!!!
by davw83 on
Jan 6, 2009 1:03 PM EST
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11-4 OOC
Not bad at all if you take into consideration that 3 of the 4 of those losses came from teams ranked in the top 25. (And a VMI team that is still on a roll.) Granted I still believe that UK should have beaten Miami and Louisville, but they were ranked nonetheless. Its not as if we lost 4 games to a bunch of nobodies.
by kentuckygirl0724 on
Jan 6, 2009 12:50 PM EST
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You Don't Usually Get Ranked For Losing Games
UK needs to beat a few more ranked teams to get Top 25 again.
by FortyYearCatFan on
Jan 6, 2009 2:44 PM EST
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Um...ok
I wasnt saying anything like that. I was just pointing out that (3 of the 4) losses we do have come from teams with national rankings and that is really nothing to get too down about. Teams are ranked for a reason. No shame – that’s all I was trying to say. But thanks for clearing up that whole “You Don’t Usually Get Ranked For Losing Games” mystery for me. Sure was having a hard time getting that one.
by kentuckygirl0724 on
Jan 6, 2009 3:16 PM EST
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The teams we have lost to have a combined record of 45-9
VMI — 12-2
NC — 13-1
Miami — 11-3
U of L — 9-3
by OGETARTS on
Jan 6, 2009 3:38 PM EST
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may not help us now...
…but it will be huge in March when all those teams have 25+ wins…
Steelers fan 1st! UK is my 2nd love.
by vinceuk1 on
Jan 6, 2009 4:09 PM EST
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ok, wait..
…gonna’ be hard for Loserville to have 25+ paying in the big east…
Steelers fan 1st! UK is my 2nd love.
by vinceuk1 on
Jan 6, 2009 4:10 PM EST
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Agreed
Helps then. But L never helps you get ranked when you are not ranked.
by FortyYearCatFan on
Jan 6, 2009 4:23 PM EST
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WHO
ever said that losing helps you get ranked???????
by kentuckygirl0724 on
Jan 6, 2009 4:24 PM EST
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Losing To Ranked Teams Is Still Losing
I’d like to see UK start beating some ranked teams.
by FortyYearCatFan on
Jan 6, 2009 4:55 PM EST
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losing to an
unranked team is worse………….and to your comment ……..duh :)
by tenken on
Jan 6, 2009 5:05 PM EST
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True
But UK must start beating some ranked teams. That was a criticism of the prior coach.
The current coach is 2-7 versus ranked teams.
by FortyYearCatFan on
Jan 6, 2009 8:11 PM EST
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What's The Combined Record Of Teams That UK Beat?
That would be interesting to know.
by FortyYearCatFan on
Jan 6, 2009 4:24 PM EST
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Just FYI ...
… the loss to Louisville only hurt us a little, like 3 places in Kenpom’s ratings.
My own rankings have UK at 45th right now, just behind Florida. If we could ever get a few votes from the résumé rankers, we might get there pretty fast. Our numbers are pretty good, but our public profile looks too weak right now. We need a high-profile victory over somebody, or a bunch of wins on the road.
A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan
by Truzenzuzex on
Jan 6, 2009 5:38 PM EST
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How 'bout
beating Tennessee at Tennessee. That would be nice (especially if they can take the ’Zags tomorrow. . .)
by blbskue on
Jan 6, 2009 5:52 PM EST
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That would certainly help.
A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan
by Truzenzuzex on
Jan 6, 2009 6:59 PM EST
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I didn't see this posted
Vinny Zollo had a great game on Saturday.
by OGETARTS on
Jan 6, 2009 2:25 PM EST
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Great find.
A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan
by Truzenzuzex on
Jan 6, 2009 2:37 PM EST
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Our one and only job right now:
Beat Vandy on Saturday.
by Fortunatus on
Jan 6, 2009 11:22 PM EST
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Lunardi
Has UK a 11 seed.Florida is a 6 seed.UT is a 7 seed.Just 3 SEC teams.Minnesota is a 6 seed.Arkansas got the shaft,and they have beaten 2 Top Ten teams.Hard to Imagine a team winning the SEC outright and a 6 seed is the best you could muster.
by -Zoso- on
Jan 7, 2009 6:48 AM EST
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Lunardi really doesn't follow what's actually happening much IMO
Having Florida ranked as a seed higher than UT is laughable and leaving Arkansas out of the tourney is reason to throw the whole damn bracket in the waste basket.
Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."
by chirop1 on
Jan 7, 2009 7:11 AM EST
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