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Kentucky @ Louisville: Open Game Thread

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Kentucky Wildcats at Louisville Cardinals, Jan 4, 2009 4:30 PM EST


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This is the official A Sea of Blue open game thread for the Kentucky Wildcats @ Louisville Cardinals basketball game at Freedom Hall, Sunday, Januar 4th @ 4:30 PM.

Particulars of this game are as follows:

Here we are, at the annual meeting of two bitter foes, Kentucky and Louisville in basketball.  Of course, every Kentucky and Louisville fan has this date circled on their calendar, and those who have to work or live with fans of the other school much prefer to have the upper hand in the inevitable back and forth.

Today's tilt finds Louisville struggling a bit, having lost two out of their last three games, and Kentucky on a roll, having won six in a row against admittedly inferior competition.  For UK, a win here represents a résumé builder for their NCAA tournament hopes and a validation of the apparent improvement fans have seen. For Louisville, this game represents a chance to stop the bleeding at the expense of a bitter rival and also achieve that résumé win that eluded them versus Minnesota and UNLV.

There is no doubt that Freedom Hall gives the Cardinals an advantage, and a significant one.  Kentucky will have to overcome that by matching or exceeding the Cardinals' intensity on defense.  Offensively, the Wildcats will have to overcome Louisville's match-up zone, which will no doubt be in front of them for at least some of the game.

Things Kentucky needs to do well to win:

  1. Be patient when attacking the zone, and find the open spots.  Run when possible to deny Louisville the chance to set up the zone.
  2. Raise the defensive intensity through the roof.
  3. Take care of the basketball.  Louisville feasts off opponent turnovers.
  4. Get the ball to Patterson early and often.  Patterson is a great passer out of the post, and will find open shooter.
  5. Jodie Meeks and Patrick Patterson must stay out of foul trouble.

Things that will make it likely for Louisville to win:

  1. Force Kentucky to shoot from the perimeter.  Even good perimeter shots are preferable to allowing Patterson to get the ball down low.
  2. Turn Kentucky over.  Kentucky is susceptible to poor ballhandling, and Louisville's pressure defense is among the best in college basketball.
  3. Minimize fouls.  Kentucky is a great foul shooting team.
  4. Force someone other than Meeks and Patterson to beat them.
  5. Get Patterson in foul trouble as soon as possible.

There is little doubt that Louisville has the superior talent and depth, but Kentucky is much more talented than either Minnesota or UNLV, so they have more than enough talent to win this game.  The rivalry component also puts extra pressure on the Cardinals as the home team.

Gird your loins, Big Blue Nation.  It's time for wrath, time for ruin, and the Blue Dawn!

Go, 'Cats!

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What's the difference between DYNASTY and wanna-be?

Answer: About 75 miles and FIVE NATIONAL TITLES!
GO CATS!!!

by stephensmith on Jan 4, 2009 3:40 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I love it.

Let the games begin!

Two months (!). Two weeks. Two pencils.

by Thomas Hunt Morgan on Jan 4, 2009 3:51 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Yes!

Let’s get it on, like Donkey Kong!

A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan

by Truzenzuzex on Jan 4, 2009 4:10 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Fans of the Big Blue Nation!

Oaths you have taken! Now, fulfill them all!

I just love LOTR movie battle quotes for this game. :-)

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by Truzenzuzex on Jan 4, 2009 4:24 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I am hoping Christmas comes late today.

I, an avid Blue-Bleeding-Kentucky-Fan, but current resident of Louisville would love nothing more than Wildcat win this evening! All I have heard from my co-workers and boss the last three months is how ole “Sam Sam” is gonna crush “Pat Pat” come the first weekend of January! To be able to stroll back into work tomorrow morning and make them have to eat their words would mean more to me than raise!!! GO CATS!!!

by stephensmith on Jan 4, 2009 4:16 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I live in Louisville too.

And even though I don’t have co-workers, I want the victory just as bad. I want the Louisville fans to cringe when they see me in my colors.

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by Truzenzuzex on Jan 4, 2009 4:22 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Me too.

My uniform is Black and Khaki, but I will somehow throw some blue in their tomorrow if the Cats win!

by stephensmith on Jan 4, 2009 4:30 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Lines have been drawn...

Sides have been taken.

Lets do this thing Big Blue style.

Slower Traffic Keep Right!

by SevenRings on Jan 4, 2009 4:20 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Nervous...

im so nervous about this game…i may just throw-up before tip=off!!

" I believe in pipedreams"

by Magnoliacat on Jan 4, 2009 4:26 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

LOL...

good idea

" I believe in pipedreams"

by Magnoliacat on Jan 4, 2009 4:33 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Pitino

3-4 vs kentucky..hummm

" I believe in pipedreams"

by Magnoliacat on Jan 4, 2009 4:35 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

well well well???

Slower Traffic Keep Right!

by SevenRings on Jan 4, 2009 4:36 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

nice perry

Slower Traffic Keep Right!

by SevenRings on Jan 4, 2009 4:37 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

bs

no foul?

" I believe in pipedreams"

by Magnoliacat on Jan 4, 2009 4:38 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

bs 2

that wasw clean

" I believe in pipedreams"

by Magnoliacat on Jan 4, 2009 4:40 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Almost?

That was clean

by GoLightning on Jan 4, 2009 4:40 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Calls,,,

arent gonna go our way are they?

" I believe in pipedreams"

by Magnoliacat on Jan 4, 2009 4:42 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

UK needs to calm down

Slower Traffic Keep Right!

by SevenRings on Jan 4, 2009 4:42 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

need to calm down

not try to run it so much.

GO BIG BLUE!! GO BIG BLUE!!

by UKWildCatFanatic on Jan 4, 2009 4:46 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

very aggravating

Slower Traffic Keep Right!

by SevenRings on Jan 4, 2009 4:48 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Patterson learning when to pass?

Did Clark watch any UK games last year?

by GoLightning on Jan 4, 2009 4:47 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

samuels with 2 fouls

now’s the time to feed patterson every time down

GO BIG BLUE!! GO BIG BLUE!!

by UKWildCatFanatic on Jan 4, 2009 4:48 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

2 fouls...

thats BIG

" I believe in pipedreams"

by Magnoliacat on Jan 4, 2009 4:48 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

BUT..

turnovers are bigger

" I believe in pipedreams"

by Magnoliacat on Jan 4, 2009 4:49 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

UK's kryptonite

Slower Traffic Keep Right!

by SevenRings on Jan 4, 2009 4:50 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

nice

play

" I believe in pipedreams"

by Magnoliacat on Jan 4, 2009 4:50 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

nice pass by DL

GO BIG BLUE!! GO BIG BLUE!!

by UKWildCatFanatic on Jan 4, 2009 4:50 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

foul???

i missed that

" I believe in pipedreams"

by Magnoliacat on Jan 4, 2009 4:51 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

TAKE CARE OF THE BALL

Slower Traffic Keep Right!

by SevenRings on Jan 4, 2009 4:52 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Meeks is heatin up

Slower Traffic Keep Right!

by SevenRings on Jan 4, 2009 4:53 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

here

we go!!

" I believe in pipedreams"

by Magnoliacat on Jan 4, 2009 4:54 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

heat check!

GO BIG BLUE!! GO BIG BLUE!!

by UKWildCatFanatic on Jan 4, 2009 4:54 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

"Volcano" as nickname for Meeks

I think Kellogg might be on to something there

"That's not a Sherman tank, it's Frank Thomas!" - Monkeyball

by JLeverenz on Jan 4, 2009 4:56 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

HA

Havent heard from him in awhile….

" I believe in pipedreams"

by Magnoliacat on Jan 4, 2009 4:58 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

and

1,,,??

" I believe in pipedreams"

by Magnoliacat on Jan 4, 2009 5:00 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Once again

Porter proves he is in over his head.. BUT I am praying he reaches deep insides and finds a little something extra.. A LOT somethign extra and becomes a steady hand the rest of this game.

by MyBloodRunsBlue on Jan 4, 2009 5:02 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Don't agree

We seem more settled with Porter in right now in my opinion.

by bigbluestu on Jan 4, 2009 5:04 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Meeks is taking over

Slower Traffic Keep Right!

by SevenRings on Jan 4, 2009 5:03 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

wow.

Meeks really does love Freedom Hall.

by uk52 on Jan 4, 2009 5:03 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

ul

is hitting their 3’s which is unusal for them

" I believe in pipedreams"

by Magnoliacat on Jan 4, 2009 5:03 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Guarding 3

i havent seen us to that in atleast 3 seasons

" I believe in pipedreams"

by Magnoliacat on Jan 4, 2009 5:04 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Meeks got a shoulder thrown into his face ...

… for about the third time. No call.

A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan

by Truzenzuzex on Jan 4, 2009 5:04 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

These damn officials ...

… need to watch these moving picks.

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by Truzenzuzex on Jan 4, 2009 5:04 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Good grief, of course UL would choose NOW to start hitting 3's

Open or not, that’s just annoying. Would really like to see them get Patterson some more touches inside.

"That's not a Sherman tank, it's Frank Thomas!" - Monkeyball

by JLeverenz on Jan 4, 2009 5:05 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Meeks on the other hand..

is showing he belongs with the nation’s elite… with some defensive improvement, Meeks has a great NBA game and body.

by MyBloodRunsBlue on Jan 4, 2009 5:05 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

but stevenson has three

better him then PP, but still not good.

GO BIG BLUE!! GO BIG BLUE!!

by UKWildCatFanatic on Jan 4, 2009 5:09 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

True..

but PS is not a difference maker, UK can win without him (they usually do)

by MyBloodRunsBlue on Jan 4, 2009 5:12 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

The one very good thing....

 … Is that we havnt let them build the huge early lead. That is the difference between this game and our other games against good teams .

by uk52 on Jan 4, 2009 5:07 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

imo

ul is playing way above their heads…hopefully they will come down to earth soon

" I believe in pipedreams"

by Magnoliacat on Jan 4, 2009 5:09 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

harrellson, porter, liggins, miller, harris....

someone please step up and relieve some of the pressure on the big 2

Slower Traffic Keep Right!

by SevenRings on Jan 4, 2009 5:11 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

PP the

only player under the boards… players not following their shots. geez.

by MyBloodRunsBlue on Jan 4, 2009 5:11 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

porter.....lol

Slower Traffic Keep Right!

by SevenRings on Jan 4, 2009 5:12 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

PORTER!!

GO BIG BLUE!! GO BIG BLUE!!

by UKWildCatFanatic on Jan 4, 2009 5:12 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Ladies and gentlemen...Michael Porter!

"That's not a Sherman tank, it's Frank Thomas!" - Monkeyball

by JLeverenz on Jan 4, 2009 5:14 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Turnovers.

They are just killing us.

We simply don’t have enough people attacking the basket on offense.

A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan

by Truzenzuzex on Jan 4, 2009 5:14 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Maybe we need to go to a smaller lineup ...

… move miller to the 4. Harrellson is struggling big time with Louisville’s athleticism.

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by Truzenzuzex on Jan 4, 2009 5:15 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Put Liggins in and shift Porter to shooter

Then you’ve got Meeks and Porter set up outside with Harrellson and Patterson inside with Liggins driving and finding guys

"That's not a Sherman tank, it's Frank Thomas!" - Monkeyball

by JLeverenz on Jan 4, 2009 5:16 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Turnover story..

Cats 15 leading to 13 points.
Cards 8 leading to 4 points.

7 point differential.

by Iam4UKinMI on Jan 4, 2009 5:16 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

UL

is much more athletic.. is is really showing

by MyBloodRunsBlue on Jan 4, 2009 5:19 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

need

a stop here

" I believe in pipedreams"

by Magnoliacat on Jan 4, 2009 5:20 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

unchar.

they dont usually shoot them that well

" I believe in pipedreams"

by Magnoliacat on Jan 4, 2009 5:22 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

man, is patterson working hard!

he needs to get rewarded in the second half.

GO BIG BLUE!! GO BIG BLUE!!

by UKWildCatFanatic on Jan 4, 2009 5:22 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

stop em

once more….man if we could have scored there

" I believe in pipedreams"

by Magnoliacat on Jan 4, 2009 5:23 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

need these

points

" I believe in pipedreams"

by Magnoliacat on Jan 4, 2009 5:24 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

glad aj wasn't hurt

looked like an awkward fall

GO BIG BLUE!! GO BIG BLUE!!

by UKWildCatFanatic on Jan 4, 2009 5:24 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

yes

nice

" I believe in pipedreams"

by Magnoliacat on Jan 4, 2009 5:24 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Alot of mistakes

But our guys are really working hard out there and giving alot of effort.

by uk52 on Jan 4, 2009 5:24 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

only down 3 at the half

got to be really really happy with that.

GO BIG BLUE!! GO BIG BLUE!!

by UKWildCatFanatic on Jan 4, 2009 5:25 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

after...

all that.we are in this game….ul has to be dissapointed they arent up 20

" I believe in pipedreams"

by Magnoliacat on Jan 4, 2009 5:25 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

yep

If we could have cut downon the TO’s in that half we probably would actually have a decent lead. Hopefully we can make some good adjustments in the half.

by uk52 on Jan 4, 2009 5:27 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Good to be down only 3

but Samuels is coming back

by GoLightning on Jan 4, 2009 5:26 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

We're in this folks...

Let’s pull out a great 2nd half with some adjustments and eat some bird for dinner.

by bigbluestu on Jan 4, 2009 5:26 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

More evidence that Kellogg is an excellent analyst

He waited until after Patterson shot his second free throw to say he was an excellent free throw shooter ;-)

"That's not a Sherman tank, it's Frank Thomas!" - Monkeyball

by JLeverenz on Jan 4, 2009 5:26 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Haha!

I was grateful for that as well.

A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan

by Truzenzuzex on Jan 4, 2009 5:26 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Liggins ...

… is really struggling.

But Porter is winning me over big time. He hasn’t been perfect, but he has taken pretty good care of the ball.

Louisville has to be wondering what they have to do, turning us over 14 times and having only a 3 point lead.

A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan

by Truzenzuzex on Jan 4, 2009 5:26 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Liggins is feast or famine.

He seems to go for broke on every play rather the just make the ordinary pass.

Two months (!). Two weeks. Two pencils.

by Thomas Hunt Morgan on Jan 4, 2009 5:27 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Word 'em up Tru

I went from a Porter supporter to detractor this year. I began to regret my post almost immediately. He seems to be a settling force so far in this game.

by bigbluestu on Jan 4, 2009 5:33 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

How many more 'away-from-the-ball' fouls are we going to get????

You’d like to think we would get just a little love at home.

'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'

by HozeKing on Jan 4, 2009 5:26 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

You should have had ...

… a half-dozen more. Clark has been guilty of at least three blatant fouls on screens, and has yet to be called for one.

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by Truzenzuzex on Jan 4, 2009 5:27 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

All things considered, I'm happy...

to be down three after all of those turnovers says alot about the charatcter of our team. T

by Iam4UKinMI on Jan 4, 2009 5:26 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Good defense by the Cats

A lot of open three pointers by UL, but considering how bad they were coming in I don’t think that’s so terrible

"That's not a Sherman tank, it's Frank Thomas!" - Monkeyball

by JLeverenz on Jan 4, 2009 5:27 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

So glad to see

the players work hard to keep UL from extending the lead… I really enjoyed this first half.

by MyBloodRunsBlue on Jan 4, 2009 5:27 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

All things considered, I'm happy..

that we are ahead w/o anthing from Samuels

'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'

by HozeKing on Jan 4, 2009 5:27 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Well the first half was not a thing of beauty for UK....

but they managed to stay in the game and really turned momentum in the last few minutes

Slower Traffic Keep Right!

by SevenRings on Jan 4, 2009 5:28 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

...and UK has had HOW many called?

'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'

by HozeKing on Jan 4, 2009 5:28 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I'm hoping ...

 … the percentages come home to roost for Louisville. They often do in the second half.

A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan

by Truzenzuzex on Jan 4, 2009 5:28 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

that's only when they lose interest

that ain’t happening this game

'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'

by HozeKing on Jan 4, 2009 5:29 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Ha!

Yes U of L can shoot however well they want; just flip the switch?

Two months (!). Two weeks. Two pencils.

by Thomas Hunt Morgan on Jan 4, 2009 5:30 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Low-grade moron at best.

How anyone is justified employing him in a sports capacity is beyond my comprehension.

A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan

by Truzenzuzex on Jan 4, 2009 5:29 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Thankful

for the MUTE button as soon as he opens his mouth

" I believe in pipedreams"

by Magnoliacat on Jan 4, 2009 5:30 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Seth Davis is the Slimy Salesman of analysts

Every time I see that fake-# smile of his I think he’s going to try and sell me a used car.

"That's not a Sherman tank, it's Frank Thomas!" - Monkeyball

by JLeverenz on Jan 4, 2009 5:29 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I'll take it.

We can win with high turnovers. I was hoping under 20, maybe now under 25. We have to tighten up the 3 pt. defense.

by Grasslands1 on Jan 4, 2009 5:29 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

19-9 rebounding edge for Cats.

8 offensive rebs

That’s huge

Two months (!). Two weeks. Two pencils.

by Thomas Hunt Morgan on Jan 4, 2009 5:29 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

That ...

… will surely stick in Pitino’s craw.

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by Truzenzuzex on Jan 4, 2009 5:30 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Samuels was out remember

'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'

by HozeKing on Jan 4, 2009 5:31 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

No, but probably six

'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'

by HozeKing on Jan 4, 2009 5:32 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

rebounds...

wasnt that many missed shots actually

" I believe in pipedreams"

by Magnoliacat on Jan 4, 2009 5:33 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

he averages 7 per game.

Two months (!). Two weeks. Two pencils.

by Thomas Hunt Morgan on Jan 4, 2009 5:34 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

My guess is ...

… he will be out most of the next half as well. We are too athletic for him inside.

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by Truzenzuzex on Jan 4, 2009 5:32 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

the fouls were not the result of athleticism

'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'

by HozeKing on Jan 4, 2009 5:32 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I counted

3 easy baskets after blocks for UK. I hope that luck doesn’t continue.

'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'

by HozeKing on Jan 4, 2009 5:30 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Despite all the turnovers, UL only has 4 more FGA than the Cats

Let’s hear it for Offensive Rebounding!

"That's not a Sherman tank, it's Frank Thomas!" - Monkeyball

by JLeverenz on Jan 4, 2009 5:32 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Also UL 9-10 from the line, that won't continue

"That's not a Sherman tank, it's Frank Thomas!" - Monkeyball

by JLeverenz on Jan 4, 2009 5:32 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Does it matter?

He’s a moron and we hates him! We hates the Seth Davises!

"That's not a Sherman tank, it's Frank Thomas!" - Monkeyball

by JLeverenz on Jan 4, 2009 5:34 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Sweet.

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by Truzenzuzex on Jan 4, 2009 5:36 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Are you all concerned with Stevenson's three fouls?

Why did he put him back in?

'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'

by HozeKing on Jan 4, 2009 5:36 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Not in the least.

Hopefully, he stays in the whole game, but we have several bodies we can stick in there. AJ Stewart played very well that half.

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by Truzenzuzex on Jan 4, 2009 5:37 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Im not

i guess he thought he was his only option??

" I believe in pipedreams"

by Magnoliacat on Jan 4, 2009 5:38 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Kentucky ...

… has only 5 assists so far. Way below average, that’s for sure.

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by Truzenzuzex on Jan 4, 2009 5:36 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

That's because those block shots are falling in their laps 2' from the rim.

'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'

by HozeKing on Jan 4, 2009 5:37 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Well, 14 TO is bad, but there were only 5 in the last 11 minutes

So that’s something to be cheerful about

"That's not a Sherman tank, it's Frank Thomas!" - Monkeyball

by JLeverenz on Jan 4, 2009 5:37 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Nice stat J...

Combined with our rebound advantage it really showed.

by bigbluestu on Jan 4, 2009 5:38 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

From the Seth Davis bio

“he also has performed stand-up comedy in various clubs throughout New York City.”

I want to catch that act about as bad as a want to catch Mono.

Two months (!). Two weeks. Two pencils.

by Thomas Hunt Morgan on Jan 4, 2009 5:37 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I think he's still got that gig

You can see him Saturday and Sunday afternoons

"That's not a Sherman tank, it's Frank Thomas!" - Monkeyball

by JLeverenz on Jan 4, 2009 5:38 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I seriously laughed aloud on that.

Priceless.

Two months (!). Two weeks. Two pencils.

by Thomas Hunt Morgan on Jan 4, 2009 5:38 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Or a social disease. :-)

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by Truzenzuzex on Jan 4, 2009 5:38 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Also from his BIO, a must read

“His favorite Jeopardy category is "AnAlbumCover.”

OK, now will anyone understand that?

by MyBloodRunsBlue on Jan 4, 2009 5:39 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

SNL

Words that end in “amburger”

GO BIG BLUE!! GO BIG BLUE!!

by UKWildCatFanatic on Jan 4, 2009 5:44 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

If the Cardinals ...

… return to form on the three, I think we have a real shot here.

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by Truzenzuzex on Jan 4, 2009 5:41 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

agree

and their FT shooting goes south too

" I believe in pipedreams"

by Magnoliacat on Jan 4, 2009 5:41 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I am keeping my fingers crossed that UK can control turnovers in the 2nd half....

If so, I like their chances. Keep up the intensity on the boards.

Slower Traffic Keep Right!

by SevenRings on Jan 4, 2009 5:41 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

LMAO

You guys are cracking me up!

We are only down 3. Let Go Cats!

by kykat51 on Jan 4, 2009 5:42 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Back to business.

Catch you guys after the game.

Let’s go CATS

Two months (!). Two weeks. Two pencils.

by Thomas Hunt Morgan on Jan 4, 2009 5:42 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

3rd....take seat pal

Slower Traffic Keep Right!

by SevenRings on Jan 4, 2009 5:43 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

What???

but ill take the 3ed foul

" I believe in pipedreams"

by Magnoliacat on Jan 4, 2009 5:44 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

leaned

he leaned..that is 3 legal

" I believe in pipedreams"

by Magnoliacat on Jan 4, 2009 5:44 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

huge dunk

Slower Traffic Keep Right!

by SevenRings on Jan 4, 2009 5:45 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

ouchhhh

flex

" I believe in pipedreams"

by Magnoliacat on Jan 4, 2009 5:45 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

what a follow

by patterson!!

GO BIG BLUE!! GO BIG BLUE!!

by UKWildCatFanatic on Jan 4, 2009 5:45 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

ul

missed 3

" I believe in pipedreams"

by Magnoliacat on Jan 4, 2009 5:45 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

lead!!

yeah baby!!

" I believe in pipedreams"

by Magnoliacat on Jan 4, 2009 5:46 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

WE GOT THE LEAD!!

GO BIG BLUE!! GO BIG BLUE!!

by UKWildCatFanatic on Jan 4, 2009 5:46 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Who needs assists?

Just miss the shot and let Patterson go get it!

"That's not a Sherman tank, it's Frank Thomas!" - Monkeyball

by JLeverenz on Jan 4, 2009 5:46 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

patterson

man child

" I believe in pipedreams"

by Magnoliacat on Jan 4, 2009 5:46 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

what did he get a T for

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by SevenRings on Jan 4, 2009 5:47 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I love a game

when the stars show up and play well.. UK’s stars are rising to the occasion.

by MyBloodRunsBlue on Jan 4, 2009 5:48 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

ridiculous

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by SevenRings on Jan 4, 2009 5:48 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

7 of 13 3's

thats NOT ul basketball

" I believe in pipedreams"

by Magnoliacat on Jan 4, 2009 5:49 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

UL playing hard..

making good plays too…

by MyBloodRunsBlue on Jan 4, 2009 5:49 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

T

i have no idea

" I believe in pipedreams"

by Magnoliacat on Jan 4, 2009 5:51 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

i missed it

what did billy do to get the technical?

by StillCatwoman on Jan 4, 2009 5:51 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I'm encouraged that somebody in blue is squaring up and shooting

instead of looking for Meeks to make a shot on his own. They’ll start falling.

by oldcat'69 on Jan 4, 2009 5:52 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

That last three

was just a good play by UL, it was not a defensive mistake or let down.

by MyBloodRunsBlue on Jan 4, 2009 5:53 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Hate to say it..

UL just answered UK’s run in a big way.. UL is playing very good

by MyBloodRunsBlue on Jan 4, 2009 5:54 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

filth flarn

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by SevenRings on Jan 4, 2009 5:54 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

ul

is playing like they havent ALL year…..Sosa has played and done more this game than he has all year combined,,another darren morningstar..aka pitt.

" I believe in pipedreams"

by Magnoliacat on Jan 4, 2009 5:55 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

come on Harris

Slower Traffic Keep Right!

by SevenRings on Jan 4, 2009 5:56 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Is there no one who can pull up off the dribble and shoot the J?

Do we always have to go for the off-balance leaner?

by oldcat'69 on Jan 4, 2009 5:57 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

patterson

is having earls lunch

" I believe in pipedreams"

by Magnoliacat on Jan 4, 2009 5:58 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

At some point

we have to stop letting them get an open look at 3 every possesion.

by uk52 on Jan 4, 2009 5:58 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Somebody needs ...

… to get in the empty spot in the middle.

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by Truzenzuzex on Jan 4, 2009 6:01 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

shut down

the 3 from here on out and we win

" I believe in pipedreams"

by Magnoliacat on Jan 4, 2009 6:00 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

UK isn't letting them..

come on now.. give UL credit, they are making it happen. UL is good.

by MyBloodRunsBlue on Jan 4, 2009 6:00 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

ul is not good

they are good today, as i thought theyd be…get in big east play and they are done

" I believe in pipedreams"

by Magnoliacat on Jan 4, 2009 6:01 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

uhm..

that is a pretty ridiculous statement. UL can win the Big East.

by MyBloodRunsBlue on Jan 4, 2009 6:02 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

.....

we’ll talk in march

" I believe in pipedreams"

by Magnoliacat on Jan 4, 2009 6:03 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

A good job getting the ball into Patterson

Just be patient and continue to do that and it’ll wear them down

"That's not a Sherman tank, it's Frank Thomas!" - Monkeyball

by JLeverenz on Jan 4, 2009 6:01 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

fouls...

need some on t williams and sosa

" I believe in pipedreams"

by Magnoliacat on Jan 4, 2009 6:06 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

weak

that was weak

" I believe in pipedreams"

by Magnoliacat on Jan 4, 2009 6:07 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I'm glad that went in, but it was not a good shot

"That's not a Sherman tank, it's Frank Thomas!" - Monkeyball

by JLeverenz on Jan 4, 2009 6:09 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

STEVENSON!!!!!

true blue living in a sea of orange

by qmwhitlock on Jan 4, 2009 6:09 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Perry for 3...I'll take it

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by SevenRings on Jan 4, 2009 6:09 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I'll take a few more...

Leave ‘em open UL and let’s see what happens!

by bigbluestu on Jan 4, 2009 6:10 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Perry for three!

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by Truzenzuzex on Jan 4, 2009 6:09 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

live and die

by the 3 and today ul/pitino is living by it…so far

" I believe in pipedreams"

by Magnoliacat on Jan 4, 2009 6:09 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

The defense is doing its job and getting it done

Now they just have to stop making stupid turnovers on the other end

"That's not a Sherman tank, it's Frank Thomas!" - Monkeyball

by JLeverenz on Jan 4, 2009 6:10 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

We so need ...

 the real Louisville to show up. They are unconscious from the perimeter.

I’m not quite sure how we are still in this game.

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by Truzenzuzex on Jan 4, 2009 6:10 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

lol

they look like VMI

" I believe in pipedreams"

by Magnoliacat on Jan 4, 2009 6:12 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

SOSA

13 points..season high??

" I believe in pipedreams"

by Magnoliacat on Jan 4, 2009 6:14 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I don't understand all of the open

3’s. They defender can be 2 ft away and does nothing.

by Grasslands1 on Jan 4, 2009 6:14 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

We are one scoring threat

away from being very good.

by Grasslands1 on Jan 4, 2009 6:16 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Grass, you are VERY right.

Should not a college basketball player, regardless of size or position, be able to shoot a 15-foot jump shot with a high degree of success?

by oldcat'69 on Jan 4, 2009 6:20 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

DE-FENSE DE-FENSE

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by SevenRings on Jan 4, 2009 6:18 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Perimeter pick by P-Pat.!!!!!

That’s alliteration, right, some of you English majors?

by oldcat'69 on Jan 4, 2009 6:21 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Can you imagine

what this will do to ul if they lose this game??

" I believe in pipedreams"

by Magnoliacat on Jan 4, 2009 6:22 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

big block by PS

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by SevenRings on Jan 4, 2009 6:24 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

need

a big stop here

" I believe in pipedreams"

by Magnoliacat on Jan 4, 2009 6:26 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

need

a big bucket here

" I believe in pipedreams"

by Magnoliacat on Jan 4, 2009 6:27 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Here we go.

Turnover by Williams.

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by Truzenzuzex on Jan 4, 2009 6:27 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Right, Seven.

If we score on this possession, this game is up for whomever wants it the most.

by oldcat'69 on Jan 4, 2009 6:29 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

need

another stop

" I believe in pipedreams"

by Magnoliacat on Jan 4, 2009 6:32 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

need

another big bucket

" I believe in pipedreams"

by Magnoliacat on Jan 4, 2009 6:32 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

go

for the toes if u need to

" I believe in pipedreams"

by Magnoliacat on Jan 4, 2009 6:34 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

lmao

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by SevenRings on Jan 4, 2009 6:34 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

We have found

our point guard, PORTER.

by Grasslands1 on Jan 4, 2009 6:34 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

TRU

Yes I said it. I can’t believe it.

by Grasslands1 on Jan 4, 2009 6:35 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

block

u have to be kidding me

" I believe in pipedreams"

by Magnoliacat on Jan 4, 2009 6:35 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

oh no

Slower Traffic Keep Right!

by SevenRings on Jan 4, 2009 6:35 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

come on UK...play smart

Slower Traffic Keep Right!

by SevenRings on Jan 4, 2009 6:36 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

bad possessions at the end

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by SevenRings on Jan 4, 2009 6:38 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

??

did ul just win the national title?? celebration there sure looked like it

" I believe in pipedreams"

by Magnoliacat on Jan 4, 2009 6:39 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

But it would of been

nice to see him kick it out.

by Grasslands1 on Jan 4, 2009 6:40 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

That seems to be Jodie's one weakness on offense.

On a fast break he has no problem taking on 3 defenders but in the half court he can’t do it and has to work on that.

by Grasslands1 on Jan 4, 2009 6:43 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

ouch

harsh!!!…i dont think they give it that much respect!!

" I believe in pipedreams"

by Magnoliacat on Jan 4, 2009 6:41 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

nice ul

foul the 3pt shooter with the game in hand

" I believe in pipedreams"

by Magnoliacat on Jan 4, 2009 6:42 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

please miss the FT's UofL

Slower Traffic Keep Right!

by SevenRings on Jan 4, 2009 6:43 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

turnover

yes

" I believe in pipedreams"

by Magnoliacat on Jan 4, 2009 6:45 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

OMG

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by SevenRings on Jan 4, 2009 6:45 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

OMG

Slower Traffic Keep Right!

by SevenRings on Jan 4, 2009 6:45 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

OMFG

Maroon and Gold Headquarters: The Daily Gopher

by PJS on Jan 4, 2009 6:45 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

again

yes

" I believe in pipedreams"

by Magnoliacat on Jan 4, 2009 6:45 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

YYYYYYEEEEESSSS!!!!

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by Truzenzuzex on Jan 4, 2009 6:46 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Not that I want to complain much,

but why not hold it for the last shot there? Then again, still pleased we have a ballgame

by GoLightning on Jan 4, 2009 6:46 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Boy retrospect is a.....

In hindsight, maybe that would’ve worked better, but who’s to say.

by bigbluestu on Jan 4, 2009 7:38 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

insane

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by SevenRings on Jan 4, 2009 6:47 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Wow.

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by PJS on Jan 4, 2009 6:47 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

WTF....bull$%$@^

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by SevenRings on Jan 4, 2009 6:47 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

AAARRGGHHH!

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by Truzenzuzex on Jan 4, 2009 6:47 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

That's sickening

"That's not a Sherman tank, it's Frank Thomas!" - Monkeyball

by JLeverenz on Jan 4, 2009 6:48 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

ohh well

that was fun while it lasted….id still rather be a Cat fan in defeat than a ul fan ANYDAY

" I believe in pipedreams"

by Magnoliacat on Jan 4, 2009 6:48 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

what a tease

Slower Traffic Keep Right!

by SevenRings on Jan 4, 2009 6:48 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

It took their best game of the year to win today.

And the Cats never quit, so I’m somewhat encouraged.

by oldcat'69 on Jan 4, 2009 6:49 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Oldcat...

I could not agree more.

by bigbluestu on Jan 4, 2009 6:49 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

SOSA

will never have another day like that…he better keep the tape..2 weeks hes back on pine..you heard it hear first

" I believe in pipedreams"

by Magnoliacat on Jan 4, 2009 6:49 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

#@$!

  UGH

Two months (!). Two weeks. Two pencils.

by Thomas Hunt Morgan on Jan 4, 2009 6:50 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Think of it this way

Louisville was basically shooting lights out and Kentucky STILL found a way to have it tied for a last shot win. that is BIG!

by WildYoungNCrazy on Jan 4, 2009 6:51 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

yep

im actually not suicidal…..i think we saw 2 teams going in different directions…but the to’s are troubling

" I believe in pipedreams"

by Magnoliacat on Jan 4, 2009 6:51 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Absolutely...

Hey I was down on the guy earlier this year, and I regret jumping to conclusions too early. We lost today, but we may have just gained our lead guard for SEC play.

by bigbluestu on Jan 4, 2009 6:53 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm guilty as charged on that count too.

He is our best lead guard and its not even close right now.

Two months (!). Two weeks. Two pencils.

by Thomas Hunt Morgan on Jan 4, 2009 6:54 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Somewehere Bill Keightleyis crying.

Two months (!). Two weeks. Two pencils.

by Thomas Hunt Morgan on Jan 4, 2009 6:52 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

That was an amazing final minute of basketball..

I’m encouraged by our heart and never give up attitude. However, had we valued the ball and played better (any?) perimeter defense, we wouldn’t have been in that position.

by Iam4UKinMI on Jan 4, 2009 6:53 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Man...

It sucks so much more to see that impossible shot fall after the cats showed such determination in the last 58 seconds…. unbelievable

by uk52 on Jan 4, 2009 6:54 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Fact....

UL played out of char. needed a out the a** 3 at the buzzer with UK turnovers out the wazoooo…i feel better than expected……

" I believe in pipedreams"

by Magnoliacat on Jan 4, 2009 6:54 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I am encouraged by the tight win UL had.

Our guys played tough to the end with a lot of heart. This game showed our progress.
No shame in this loss by 3 pts.

by kykat51 on Jan 4, 2009 6:56 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

UK needs to find a reliable 3rd scoring threat....

and quit turning the ball over so much. Their charity will catch with them in close games.

Slower Traffic Keep Right!

by SevenRings on Jan 4, 2009 6:56 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I think it is safe to say UK has improved a great deal

The improvement everyone has talked about over the last few weeks is real and not simply because of competition. The turnovers were bad, but not terribly higher than expected. The next big step is to find that third scorer who can give the team ~10 ppg. I think Stevenson is the most likely candidate.

"That's not a Sherman tank, it's Frank Thomas!" - Monkeyball

by JLeverenz on Jan 4, 2009 6:56 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Well that was fun (not)...

…on the other hand if you would have told me that Samuels and Clark would have been non-factors and Meeks and Patterson had big games….I’d say no way.

Gawd, did that shot by Sosa mean a lot…and not just because it won the game…but for his game/attitude.

'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'

by HozeKing on Jan 4, 2009 6:57 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Well, I don't think it's a good thing...

I mean, obviously it is a REALLY good thing as far as this game goes, but for his game/attitude, I doubt it makes much of a difference, and if it does, it’s for the worse.

It was a bad shot. Plenty of time to get a high percentage shot or try to draw a foul, but instead you launch a 25-footer? Sure, he hit it, but it was a bad shot. What will that do to his attitude? Convince him he should take more NBA 3s?

Good game. Good win for Louisville. Two evenly matched teams. Neither are Final Four good, but both are good enough to make some waves come tournament time.

by BBallSophist on Jan 4, 2009 7:21 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

The kid needs a shot of confidence...

…and if you can’t see that, then I am sorry for you.

'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'

by HozeKing on Jan 4, 2009 7:51 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm begining to wonder if leaving UL open for 3's was part of our game plan...

one has to wonder seeing how poorly UL has shot the ball this year.

by Iam4UKinMI on Jan 4, 2009 6:57 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Yes it was completely out of character for them to shoot that well.

Especially Sosa.

One might say it was even lucky.

Two months (!). Two weeks. Two pencils.

by Thomas Hunt Morgan on Jan 4, 2009 6:58 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

interesting..

to see if they ever shoot that well the rest of the year

" I believe in pipedreams"

by Magnoliacat on Jan 4, 2009 6:58 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I could see that

Although I think it was probably more along the lines of “don’t leave them open, but if they do get open then get in good rebounding position and let them shoot rather than close out and get out of rebounding position”

"That's not a Sherman tank, it's Frank Thomas!" - Monkeyball

by JLeverenz on Jan 4, 2009 7:00 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe I am so emotionally spent

but dangit, PUT DANG JARED CARTER ON UofL’s best three point shooter. I mean BG should have known better. Reminds me of the Duke game.

I know maybe in a little while I will think more rationally and I will think of good things for this game but DANGIT!

by tenken on Jan 4, 2009 7:00 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

like......

VMI….its hard to beat anybody no matter how well you play when you give up that pct. of 3’s..plus factoring in the to’s

" I believe in pipedreams"

by Magnoliacat on Jan 4, 2009 7:00 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Third Scorer?

If you asked in the preseason I would have assumed it would be an incoming player like Harrelson, Liggins or Miller.

I did not think it would be someone on last year’s roster, but Stevenson seems to be the most likely candidate.

Two months (!). Two weeks. Two pencils.

by Thomas Hunt Morgan on Jan 4, 2009 7:02 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

If I am not mistaken UK's 3rd leading scorer right now is Harris....

the problem is he is not 100% at the moment. If he gets healthy it would help greatly.

Slower Traffic Keep Right!

by SevenRings on Jan 4, 2009 7:03 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I think Harris was on his way to becoming that third scorer before he got hurt

He (understandably) just hasn’t looked right since he started playing again. Hopefully he’ll get back during conference season.

"That's not a Sherman tank, it's Frank Thomas!" - Monkeyball

by JLeverenz on Jan 4, 2009 7:04 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

The FT% is what's really galling

UL shoots 82.6% – that’s just incredibly irritating.

"That's not a Sherman tank, it's Frank Thomas!" - Monkeyball

by JLeverenz on Jan 4, 2009 7:03 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I guess....

they were more focused today….to bad for them it wont last. but they got their goal of a win over UK..imo they arent good enough to make any noise tour. time

" I believe in pipedreams"

by Magnoliacat on Jan 4, 2009 7:06 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

What about BCG's technical?

What was all that about? It came at a great time for us.

'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'

by HozeKing on Jan 4, 2009 7:05 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I'd like to say it was a game changer...

We had all the momentum, had just taken the lead, and boom. Down 6 only seconds later. However, we fought back and overcame it.

by Iam4UKinMI on Jan 4, 2009 7:08 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

was an interesting technical

EVERYONE looked baffled as to why it occured

by WildYoungNCrazy on Jan 4, 2009 7:06 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

No one

knew..even C. Kellogg said he didnt know the reason. Guess refs dont need one,,ha

" I believe in pipedreams"

by Magnoliacat on Jan 4, 2009 7:08 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm sure Gillespie said something stupid!

He just can’t be happy with a great come back and going up one, he’s got to open up his big mouth and get a T and it wasn’t 6 points it was 12 unanswered points! This plus not pressuring the in bounds play at the end of the game have to go down as the main two reason’s UK lost the game. To not apply pressure to any team of this caliber in the last seconds is to me a cut down and a show of no respect and a sure fire guarantee that you are going to get smoked. We get two quick turnovers in a row, the momentum is all ours and then he tells them to pull back, I’m at a loss for words here?

by Docathelake on Jan 4, 2009 7:33 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

There was some pressure

UK backed off once the ball was inbounded, probably to avoid giving up an easy drive to the basket. It may have been the wrong strategy, but I don’t see it as a lack of respect.

by GoLightning on Jan 4, 2009 7:38 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I just hate it when a team quits doing what's working!

It just kills me when a team backs up from what there doing especially when it’s working so well, and do I have to mention what happened to us against Duke, I still hate you Latiner (which he shouldn’t even have been in the game for stomping on Timberlake). This being said- Please always defend the in bounds, Please, Please, Please!!! and if it’s not a lack of respect, then you have to call it arrogance on our part, to give any player in college an uncontested open shot from anywhere on the floor in this situation is just stupid!

by Docathelake on Jan 4, 2009 7:54 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I actually didn't have a problem with the shot at the end

Honestly, if you told me that the best shot UofL would get off at the end would be Edgar Sosa from 8 feet behind the three point line… I’ll take that every day of the week and twice on Sunday. Unfortunately for us, he only needed it once on Sunday.

My fear when I saw him call for the clear out was that he was going to take Porter to the basket. That’s a much better proposition and one that I would assume Ricky P would have preferred.

This plus not pressuring the in bounds play at the end of the game have to go down as the main two reason’s UK lost the game.
Yeah, I’m going to disagree here.

Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."

by chirop1 on Jan 5, 2009 8:23 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Some more props for Porter...

He played 33 minutes, shot 2-5 from the floor, had one assist and NO TURNOVERS. He handled UL’s pressure very well. Nice job Michael!

by Iam4UKinMI on Jan 4, 2009 7:06 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Ok Seven...

I am disappointed also, but I saw a UK team that can play with rated teams. I guess I am more realistic.
Our team has improved a lot from the UNC game and that is what I saw. This was a tough venue going into Freedom Hall and we battled back how many times? I knew Pitino would have his team ready no matter what he spews in the media.

by kykat51 on Jan 4, 2009 7:21 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed

There are no moral victories and we can IF IF IF all day long.

The bottom line is, one of the teams was coming out of there with 4 non-conference losses and it turns out to be us.

Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."

by chirop1 on Jan 5, 2009 8:24 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

i was suprised by Porter not getting ANY turnovers

very impressed and happy for Michael to withstand the pressure of them and the UK fans

by WildYoungNCrazy on Jan 4, 2009 7:09 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Because we're a mid-major...

Losesville is ranked and at home for goodness sakes.. lol

Steelers fan 1st! UK is my 2nd love.

by vinceuk1 on Jan 4, 2009 7:21 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

wtf

how are we a mid-major, vince?

by blue kentucky girl on Jan 4, 2009 7:25 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

because...

we are beating teams that mid-majors beat and losing to teams that mid-majors loose too…
just look at the last 18 ranked teams that UK has played.. I think we are something like 2-16..?

Mid-major numbers… I love UK, but facts are facts… Until we get a couple more studs, then we will loose to these type of teams…

Steelers fan 1st! UK is my 2nd love.

by vinceuk1 on Jan 4, 2009 7:30 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

That's nuts.

The loss has addled your brain, apparently. :-)

A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan

by Truzenzuzex on Jan 4, 2009 7:34 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, now I see...

…Unless it’s your opinion, it’s nuts… That’s cool

Good to know, but at this point, UK has Mid-Major numbers Tru…

Steelers fan 1st! UK is my 2nd love.

by vinceuk1 on Jan 4, 2009 7:36 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

We may have mid-major numbers right now but...

A wolf in sheep’s clothing is still a wolf. UK is, and always will be a formidable force in NCAA basketball. A term like that is used to describe a program that doesn’t have the record UK has. I respect your thoughts and feelings Vince, but a spade is a spade and in this case the Cats will be back in form soon. But we’ve never dropped to Mid-Major status.

by bigbluestu on Jan 4, 2009 7:45 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

ehh..

..ok, I’ll agree with that fact that we have “potential”, but until we get a couple more studs, our numbers will not change.. IMO

Steelers fan 1st! UK is my 2nd love.

by vinceuk1 on Jan 4, 2009 7:49 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

A third scorer and...

some better perimeter defense would be nice. The third scorer, or at least the threat of, is a freaking neccessity, period. We might just make a nice run through the SEC though yet. Take heart brother in blue, there’s time.

by bigbluestu on Jan 4, 2009 7:53 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Do have mid-major numbers

but I don’t think getting more studs the answer. Sure, they give an advantage, but unless they are playing as a team and know the scheme it won’t matter. The mid-major stats will disappear once there is more cohesion among the teammates. Familiarity. Pat will stay one more year. That will be the ranked all season, beat up opponents no matter their position and get a win back from UNC. We’ve got a good team right now who could win the NC but they would have to take major leaps in improvement these next couple o months. I have seen a lot of improvement but I haven’t seen major steps of improvement yet. I’m ready for this team to rumble through the SEC. :) Take back what is our conference in basketball. All roads to the tourney passed through UK and that needs to come back to the SEC.

by bluecrip on Jan 4, 2009 7:48 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Not sure what vince means...

Unless it’s because UK is unrated and UL is 18 and playing at home. Other than that, I don’t know.

by kykat51 on Jan 4, 2009 7:33 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

those things you say--going 2-16 against ranked foes, etc--do not a mid-major make

Playing in a mid-major conference does. Granted the SEC’s not all that strong this year, but I don’t believe they’re pulling our major conference credentials just yet.

I get you surely don’t actually believe what you said, your’re just engaging in hyperbole and blowing off steam, but I think you’re going way over the top. You perrogative to do so, of course. Lousiville lost to Western for gods sake (an ACTUAL mid-major). It happens.

by blue kentucky girl on Jan 4, 2009 7:41 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

For UofL it was just about a no-win situation

….we had to win this game. Absolutely had to… I still can’t believe we won with Clark and Samuels having not only an off day, but no day at all.

From my perspective, other than turnovers, we still managed to beat UK when they played their best. Say goodbye to PPat after this year…that kid is a stud and he’d be stupid to risk injury and stay. Possibly the same with Meeks as well but I still say it be good for him to stay another year.

'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'

by HozeKing on Jan 4, 2009 7:44 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

You're nuts.

21 turnovers is not playing our best. We didn’t even shoot 50% from the field.

What about Louisville shooting 55% from three, including the last second shot? Spare me the bullshit.

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by Truzenzuzex on Jan 4, 2009 7:52 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

we played with heart, but...

…it was far from our best… period..!

Steelers fan 1st! UK is my 2nd love.

by vinceuk1 on Jan 4, 2009 7:53 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Definitely not UK's best!?!?!

Less reckless and more focused offensive effort and UK wins by 12.

by bluecrip on Jan 4, 2009 7:56 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Are you saying UK didn't play well????

'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'

by HozeKing on Jan 4, 2009 8:00 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

bottom line is...

…UK took Loserville’s best shot, and it took a 30 footer at the buzzer to beat them..!

Steelers fan 1st! UK is my 2nd love.

by vinceuk1 on Jan 4, 2009 8:01 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Best and well

mean different things.

by GoLightning on Jan 4, 2009 8:01 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

did UK "play well"? yeah, I'd say so

Did they “play their best”?? Um…. nooo. They could certainly improve from this performance. Like Tru said the shooting wasn’t great and the turnovers, oh the turnovers.

by blue kentucky girl on Jan 4, 2009 8:04 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

20+ turnovers is not playing well, regardless of the competition.

They did play very hard, as did U of L.

As G stated after the game, no composure early on, and no execution sporadically throughtout the game.

G needs to practice what he preaches as far as composure is concerned. His T was a prelude to UL’s 12-0 run … bad, bad timing getting T’ed up seconds after his club takes their first lead of the game.

Louisville, as I thought, played by far their best game of the year, and they are to be congratulated.

by Ken Howlett on Jan 4, 2009 8:22 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

That's my point...

…their best game of the year, 20+ to’s for UK, and the game was tied with 3 secs left…

Steelers fan 1st! UK is my 2nd love.

by vinceuk1 on Jan 4, 2009 8:25 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not sure what you're saying ...

… the 20+ turnovers is to me an indication that they did not play well, but they did play hard, just not smart.

Their best game of the year? I’m not sure about that either, unless one considers that they were on the road ….

Wait a minute. Are you talking about it being U of L’s best game of the year? If that’s what you are saying, then yes, I most certainly do agree.

One positive to take away from the game, other than Porter’s solid play, is the point you make: UK with 20+ TO’s and yet they still had a chance to win. But at some point they have to get the TO’s under control, or we’ll be saying this all year.

by Ken Howlett on Jan 4, 2009 8:40 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

yes... lol

Their (Loserville) best game…

Steelers fan 1st! UK is my 2nd love.

by vinceuk1 on Jan 4, 2009 8:43 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I'd respond...

…but Tru told me to take a hike for awhile. I’ll get back to you tomorrow.

'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'

by HozeKing on Jan 4, 2009 8:48 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

No I didn't.

I told you to take it easy. That’s all.

A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan

by Truzenzuzex on Jan 4, 2009 9:02 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Here's my take...

…all in all I thought both teams played overall good games.

UK was relentless and never gave up. As BCG says, ‘they played the way they knew how their bread is buttered’. Porter played a solid if not spectacular point. Ramon’s injury and the time lost hurt them this game. Stevenson also played a great game. The only real downside was the turnovers…not to minimize that issue. As everyone knows, it is critical that UK find another scorer. If either Meeks or PPat have an off night it will be difficult for them to beat anyone.

UofL on the other hand played well, too all things considered. Their shooting finally came around…but I do attribute it to open looks..at least they took good shots which is key to it going in the basket. Of course, Sosa played great regardless of consideration of that last shot (which is no more lucky that the 3 that Porter made at the end of the first half). TWill played the game that he has to play. I did like how the bench played. UofL had their issues too with the stupid freshman play of Samuels and the boneheaded plays by Clark at the end (I also didn’t like how he sat and moped AFTER Sosa made that shot).

'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'

by HozeKing on Jan 4, 2009 9:33 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

good points, all...

Steelers fan 1st! UK is my 2nd love.

by vinceuk1 on Jan 4, 2009 9:39 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Indeed.

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by Truzenzuzex on Jan 4, 2009 10:17 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

The T was bull.

It’s not like Gillispie acted a fool or anything like that. I seriously doubt that he or anyone else would have thought that would lead to a technical. He was COACHING.

by kentuckygirl0724 on Jan 4, 2009 8:33 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Gillispie's T

From my own experience … My guess is that he cursed at the official in an unacceptable way.

His response to the T was silence. He knew he deserved it, and probably knew that he had screwed up big-time.

Hopefully he’ll learn from this.

by Ken Howlett on Jan 4, 2009 8:42 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Disagree

We will just have to disagree on this one, Ken. Gillispie’s response to most things is silence. That’s how he rolls. I in NO way blame him for the momentum loss. I stand by my feeling that the T was junk.

by kentuckygirl0724 on Jan 4, 2009 8:45 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I have yet to hear what it was for

I would assume that he swore at an official thinking that there should have been a foul on the play that gave Kentucky the lead.

His silence was probably a sign of restraint to make sure he didn’t get tossed from the game.

Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."

by chirop1 on Jan 5, 2009 8:29 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

geez

Thank god we only play UL once a year, I can’t take this stress. That last minute was insane!!

To echo HozeKing what WAS Coach G’s techincal about? That was a momentum-changer (albeit temporarily). I didn’t see him do anything and the tv announcers didn’t discuss it at all.

I’m not as bereft as I’d think I would be though. overall. I mean, how GALLING, I can’t BELIEVE we went down on that bullshit Sosa circus three after all the awesomness that came directly before it. God, whatever. Who does Sosa think he is, Patrick Sparks? Overall, though, it wasn’t a bad showing for us in the most hostile of settings on the road against, let’s face it, a more talented team. I mean, yeah, a billion turnovers, yawn, what else is new, but this team has got plenty of fight in them, and you have to love that. I feel pretty good about our team right now going into conference play, no matter how bitter it is to lose to stupid Louisville. Props to Porter and as usual Patterson—omg, his rebounding today.

Now if you’ll excuse me, I guess I need to go be a bitch to my smug UL-fan husband.

by blue kentucky girl on Jan 4, 2009 7:18 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Now if you’ll excuse me, I guess I need to go be a bitch to my smug UL-fan husband.

I hear that! I owe one smug Louisville fan co-worker lunch now. Tomorrow wont be fun!

by kentuckygirl0724 on Jan 4, 2009 8:48 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

UK fangirl bitches unite!

They may have won this one causing them to be all smug and annoying, but they’re still Louisville fans, bless their little hearts. We should pity them ; )

by blue kentucky girl on Jan 4, 2009 11:34 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

The turnovers

are what killed us today. If this team will not turnover the ball………we will win the SEC this year. Uof L was a good team today no matter what anyone says. I have to say that this UK team is twice as good as it was last year. I think we could be the toast of the league come March if we take care of the ball. But I am still not comfortable with Porter as point. Not yet. Ready for the SEC.

By the way North Carolina down by thirteen to Boston College with seven left over.

by tenken on Jan 4, 2009 7:22 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

After what I saw yesterday in the Tennessee and then the Florida game...

…UK not winning the SEC handily would be a major disappointment.

'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'

by HozeKing on Jan 4, 2009 7:46 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Great Effort, National TV

A real war. Pitino is not the coach he was in the 1990s. Neither is Gillispie (the coach Pitino was in the 1990s — not yet anyway). Best coaching on our side was having Meeks drive on Samuels early in the game, get him in foul trouble. We have only five players ready for prime time: Patterson, Meeks, Stevenson, Porter, Harris. Today, nobody else contributed much, and Harris is still adjusting after his injuries. Winning in the SEC is going to be tough with 4-5 players.

UofL is over-rated. Pitino blows smoke about his NBA-ready players, but Perry Stevenson pretty much put the kabosh on Earl Clark today.

Patterson and Meeks had great scoring games, but we still lost. We are basically an inexperienced team. Much like most teams in the SEC.

by Fortunatus on Jan 4, 2009 7:33 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Pitino has been at UofL 8 years now and he was at Kentucky 8 years

I’ll take the 8 we got over the 8 they got any day of the week.

Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."

by chirop1 on Jan 5, 2009 8:31 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Too Early To Tell But Probably Correct

219-50 (22-5 in NCAA) in 8 years at UK.

178-70 so far (9-5 in NCAA so far) in 8 years at UK.

Biggest difference is NBA players. He had a dozen NBA players in his 8 years at UK. He has had just 2 (so far) in 8 years at Louisville.

by FortyYearCatFan on Jan 5, 2009 12:24 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I saw a UK team that battled

hard, didn’t back down and almost come away with a W. We all know what needs fixing , the team knows it and luckily we’ve got plenty of game left for the team to get it tight. If this team comes on like gangbusters in similar fashion as last year’s, then I see an elite eight in UK’s future. Good hustle, couple o dumb mistakes…Coach needs to finish his ironing and UK’s new suit of success will be ready to wear out on the town.

Congrats to the Cardinals and their fans, ma dad being one of them. But as always…..

GO BIG BLUE!!!!!

by bluecrip on Jan 4, 2009 7:39 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Just because I'm crazy

Based on what both teams had accomplished coming into the game, I figured out what each player “should” have done from 3 and from the line.

UL “should” have hit 7 threes and 15 free throws (they hit 11 and 18 respectively)
UK “should” have hit 6 threes and 18 free throws (they hit 6 and 19 respectively)

The probability that Edgar Sosa would go 8-9 from the line is an astonishing 7.86%.

Not that that really means anything, but it does put into perspective how lucky UL got, particularly from the line.

"That's not a Sherman tank, it's Frank Thomas!" - Monkeyball

by JLeverenz on Jan 4, 2009 7:46 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Oh for crying out loud...

….in regards to the 3 pt shooting, maybe you should look at UK’s defense.

'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'

by HozeKing on Jan 4, 2009 7:48 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

or lack there of...

Steelers fan 1st! UK is my 2nd love.

by vinceuk1 on Jan 4, 2009 7:49 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Well, the lack of defense might have been a factor

But UK had several wide open looks from three that didn’t go down. It’s not like that shot is automatic just because you aren’t defended.

"That's not a Sherman tank, it's Frank Thomas!" - Monkeyball

by JLeverenz on Jan 4, 2009 7:52 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Bullshit.

Louisville has missed wide open shots from three all year. Today, they made them, and that is extraordinary.

I told you Samuels would be a non-factor. I expected Clark to play better, but Stevenson had a lot to say about that.

A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan

by Truzenzuzex on Jan 4, 2009 7:53 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed

Just because the three is open doesn’t mean its going in. Louisville has missed those exact same shots all year.

I’m not surprised in the least that they shot so well in this game though.

Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."

by chirop1 on Jan 5, 2009 8:32 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

UL escaped/ pulled one out of the hat

But it happened because they made their FT’s and were left wide open on the wing too many times. UK gave UL a safety rope and an hook to put heir hat on. Interesting game all around

by bluecrip on Jan 4, 2009 7:54 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

As far as leaving them open ...

 … why would you not? They have not made 3-point shots all year. Of all the things we could have done poorly, that had the highest percentage chance of being the best mistake to make.

Which just goes to show you that when you play the percentages, you sometimes lose.

A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan

by Truzenzuzex on Jan 4, 2009 7:56 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Seems to me that a good coach...

…makes defensive adjustments based on the game and not on the yearly percentages.

'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'

by HozeKing on Jan 4, 2009 7:57 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Adjustments were made...

…that’s why we fault back from 9-11 down in 2nd half..??

What’s your point exactly..?

Steelers fan 1st! UK is my 2nd love.

by vinceuk1 on Jan 4, 2009 7:59 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

You ...

… are beginning to annoy me. It isn’t usually a good idea to come into an opponent’s blog and taunt the denizens thereof.

A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan

by Truzenzuzex on Jan 4, 2009 8:01 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

If Losesville would have lost...

…he probably would not be in here at this time.. :-)

Steelers fan 1st! UK is my 2nd love.

by vinceuk1 on Jan 4, 2009 8:03 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Especially ...

… after a tough loss.

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by Truzenzuzex on Jan 4, 2009 8:03 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Please, I thought I would have gained some respect at this point

'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'

by HozeKing on Jan 4, 2009 8:04 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Yes,

… but still, feelings are raw around here. Take it easy.

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by Truzenzuzex on Jan 4, 2009 8:04 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Later then....

'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'

by HozeKing on Jan 4, 2009 8:05 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I'll give you that in regards to Samuels..

…but it wasn’t due to what UK did or did not do. It was all on him and the silly fouls he committed. Regardless, I still can’t believe we won with Patterson and Meeks both having big games.

Yea, it was so unfair that UofL hit all those threes….by the way, what were the chances of Porter shooting and making those pair of ‘fair’ 3 pointers?

'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'

by HozeKing on Jan 4, 2009 7:56 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Samuels is a freshman ...

… and a slow-footed one at that. Yes, he will be good, but right now, he is only a freshman. I knew he would struggle against UK, and he did. Meeks driving into him was not an accident. The foul he made at the top of the key was a freshman mistake, but he wouldn’t have been a factor even if he hadn’t been in foul trouble. I have watched him play all year, and he is good against inferior comp, but better competition has exposed him 100% of the time this year.

That’s not an accident.

And no, it wasn’t unfair for Louisville to make those threes. I was simply observing, quite correctly too, that they have missed open threes all year long, consistently. That they made them today was extraordinary, not unfair.

A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan

by Truzenzuzex on Jan 4, 2009 7:59 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Well I have been honest from the get go that he has a lot to learn...

…I never said he was key to a win anyhow. I said that Clark was key…I was wrong. I said that TWill was key…I was right. And I said that UK’s turnover’s would be an issue…right again.

I believe we both missed on Sosa.

'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'

by HozeKing on Jan 4, 2009 8:03 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I think that's right.

A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan

by Truzenzuzex on Jan 4, 2009 8:05 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

This team

showed some key key great moments but some “young team” mistakes. We are halfway with the season and I feel good about it. I just don’t want a reversal of fortune from last year. Don’t want to blow SEC play.

by tenken on Jan 4, 2009 8:08 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

They may have won

but they were afraid – there at the end – VERY afraid. Early celebration almost came back and bit them in the a**!

by kentuckygirl0724 on Jan 4, 2009 8:15 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

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