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Bouncing back from Ole Miss: Where does Kentucky begin?

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After a few hours of reading the usual handwringing from the usual suspects, the griping about Gillispie's impolite handling of Jeannine Edwards' sophomoric question, lots of peevish grumbling about coaching and substitution patterns and bad shooting from three and third scorers and all that angst, I think I have come to a few conclusions.

The first and most obvious is that I understand the anxiety.  Look, UK fans, whether perception or reality, felt like they had just climbed out of a long, dark, cold cave to a glimmer of sunlight, only to see a big tree collapse over the opening and plunge them back into a dark abyss.  This sort of feeling will make you rather cross with almost anything remotely involved in your misery, and it isn't as though Kentucky fans are renowned for their infinitely patient understanding of even a mild setback.  In fact, I think I can safely say that the Big Blue Nation is notoriously intolerant of even the least of these, and that this fact isn't likely to change anytime soon.

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For those who scoff at the quickness of the Big Blue Nation to this frustration, the latin term condemnant quod non intellegunt (they condemn what they do not understand) would seem to apply.  Kentucky fans have been singled out for years as among the most knowlegeable and passionate in all of college basketball, and I think that in sum, that is true.

What most of us have lost sight of here is that this was not the sudden exposure of weakness.  Team after team has tried to hold Meeks down after his 54-point explosion at Tennessee, and all have failed until Ole Miss.  There is plenty of blame as well as praise to go around for why this happened, but let's be honest here -- this is a learning experience for both the team and the fans.  UK has not had a scoring duo this prolific, or this surrounded by an apparent lack of firepower, since before most of us can remember.  We don't really know how to play with these type of guys, because UK has historically, and particularly in the last 15 years or so, had any number of players who could put the ball in the basket.

But this doesn't tell the whole story.  This team also has no idea how to play properly with two superstars, and evidently, neither does Coach Gillispie.  Case in point -- last night, we had Jodie Meeks guarding Ole Miss' best offensive player.  I think highly of Meeks, but defense is not the first thing that comes to mind when I think of him.  That isn't to say Jodie is a poor defender, he isn't.  But riddle me this -- who on UK's team has been the lock-down defender all year?  Those of you who said "Ramon Harris," good for you.  Why did we force Meeks to expend all his energy guarding Huertas?  Bad coaching decision?  I think yes, but again, we have to look at the context.  Gillispie is not used to the care and feeding of an offensive superstar of Meeks' caliber.

Another problem that both the team and the fans are having is managing expectations.  For the fans, this is a constant issue that should surprise nobody.  For the team, it is a different story.  The players are always looking to get the ball to Meeks or Patterson, and seem frozen with indecision and even fearful apprehension when the other team takes those options away.  They expect those guys to do the scoring while they do the other stuff.  That's just not what we need.

This team has to learn to constantly attack, and stop being so concerned about what Jodie and Pat are doing.  Man up, guys.  DeAndre, that doesn't mean you start jacking up threes or trying to drive 94 feet into the paint.  Penetrate and kick.  If they sag, lay the ball in the basket.  If not, hit the open three point shooter or post player.

Stevenson must start taking the 15 footer.  He's turned down dozens of them trying to get a better shot over the last 5 games.  Perry -- shoot the ball, you're open.  15 feet is a free throw, and you shoot 75% from there.  There is no better shot unless Pat opens for a layup.  Be confident.  Shoot the ball.

Defensively, over-rotation and quick jumping killed us.  I can't remember the number of times that Patterson and Stevenson wound up going for blocks together.  You can't do that -- somebody has to guard the basket.  Patterson found himself 20ft. away from the basket at least three times trying to guard another man's responsibility while his man got open for a layup.  That's just a lack of trust, and trying to do more than one man can do.  Over and over again, Patterson and Stevenson mis-timed their jumps, leading to easy put-backs.

Trust is earned, but sometimes, you have to go on faith, and trust the coach to take care of the problem if somebody is not pulling their share of the load.  UK needs to stay at home more on defense, and trust  the defender, even if he looks to be beaten, to get back in the play.  Rotate when a basket is imminent, and trust the guy who has responsibility for help defense on that side.

Folks, what we have here are growing pains.  This is a team that is just now finding itself, and is still a player or two away from being really good.  The lack of focus and intensity to match Ole Miss was noticed by Patterson, and I'm confident that they will all work hard to correct the deficiencies.  Make no mistake, this is not a Final Four team, and may not even be a Sweet 16 team.  But this year's version of the Wildcats can be a very good team if they will trust each other, if role players will accept some of the offensive responsibility, and if all of them will stop trying to be Superman.  Just be Patrick, Jodie, Ramon, Perry, Michael, Deandre, Josh, Darius and A.J. 

That is enough, trust me.

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bouncing back

i have just found your blog and am thankful to find a discussion board on the cats that is for the most part civil. also, i think you have done a good job summing up the situation post ole miss.

my thoughts are as follows:
- if you told me we would play with 10 turnovers, score 80 (with pp and meeks scoring “only” 45 of those) on the road, i would have thought it was a blow out
- i was there at the tad pad – as cold as it was outside, ole miss was on fire. not many teams win when the opposition hits 10 of 26 treys – can you say VMI (14-31)
 - some might argue our perimeter d was weak – we were a step slow sometimes, but my sense was we almost always had a hand in the face of the shooter
- my only criticism of BCG was that when ole miss came out in a box in one after one of the 1H tv to’s, he made no adjustment. in his defense, we had a lead 2 minutes into the 2H so no adjustment had not been needed.
 - liggins went to the floor after a ball on defense in the 1H and came up looking at his elbow – he kept looking at it like he had never seen a skinned elbow before – (progress?)
- my wife, who knows NOTHING about sports and did not go to the game, was watching the memphis news and said "that red team hit everything they shot" – i was afraid that auburn might get hot and beat us from behind the 3 pt line – guess i was 2 games too early in my angst.

thanks

by memphis wildcat on Jan 28, 2009 4:01 PM EST reply actions  

Welcome!

I noticed Liggins looking at the floorburn also, and made a comment about it in the game thread with almost exactly the same thought you just expressed.

Angst is understandable, but we’ll get through.

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by Truzenzuzex on Jan 28, 2009 4:53 PM EST up reply actions  

It Was Shot Selection & Defense, Not A "Hot" Opponent

UK’s 1.04 Points/Possession was OK, that is good offense (77 possessions, I make it) but the defense gave up 1.10 PPP, really bad defensive results. But not because of hot shooting, as Mississippi shot only 38.5%.

For bad offensive and defensive results, I think you can point directly to Meeks and Liggins, who were a combined 4/17 from three. Meeks couldn’t feed the post because he was smothered, but Liggins did not cover himself in glory. If you feed the post, you win against Mississippi.

I don’t understand why UK doesn’t ride Patterson until he is taken away, and I seriously doubt any SEC team can take him away.

I suggest the UK fans hold up signs at all future games saying, FEED THE POST!

Best of luck for the rest of the year.

by Ford Prefect on Jan 28, 2009 5:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Ford....good point about shot selection.

It was awful — and that’s being kind.

GBB!!!

by OGETARTS on Jan 28, 2009 5:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Good post, good points all.

No doubt. Same to the ‘Heels, although I doubt they’ll need much luck. :-)

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by Truzenzuzex on Jan 28, 2009 6:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Ford – you are right – maybe ole miss was not “hot” like i said, but it is hard to beat a team that hits 10 treys – could it have been second chance points? we were out rebounded but not sure how many were defensive or offensive.

i will say that watching it live, it did seem like every time we made a game of hit they hit a trey…..

FEED THE POST!!!!

by memphis wildcat on Jan 29, 2009 12:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Well measured...

A well measured and rational post after a tough loss. The facts are that this team wasn’t nearly as terrific as some in the fanbase thought before the game, and are nowhere near as dreadful as some in the fanbase think now. It’s a work in progress, and this is a stumble not a failure.

Nice post, Tru

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by OverThePylon on Jan 28, 2009 4:03 PM EST reply actions  

Thanks.

You summed it up nicely.

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by Truzenzuzex on Jan 28, 2009 4:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Learn From Mistakes (Don't Repeat Them) But Don't Dwell On Them

I always thought teams than emphasize their strengths rather than worry about their weaknesses have a better chance of winning.

by FortyYearCatFan on Jan 28, 2009 4:04 PM EST reply actions  

They owned the paint

People will talk about shot selection and matchups but the most concerning thing to me was that they out muscled us. They were the more physical team. When they came off screens they drove for layups, dunks or fouls. When we drove inside the ball was knocked into the seats. You also saw it in rebounding, particularly offensive. On offense we could not get into the paint.
This can probably be fixed but the sad fact is that this deep into the season and we only have one player that has shown the ability to consistently hit an open jump shot.

by Slim Wagers on Jan 28, 2009 4:04 PM EST reply actions  

They did

I agree with this post. I thought the Ole Miss front line players pushed Perry and Darius around way too much last night. Made me wonder why we never see Patterson and Harrelson on the floor together. I know Perry has had some very good games lately, but he’s still 70 pounds easier to push out of position than Harrelson, who has had a couple of good stretches lately filling in for Patrick, but has not, that I recall, been with him on court at the same time since very early in the season.

by BCinVA on Jan 28, 2009 4:52 PM EST up reply actions  

yea when u have patterson and stevenson down low there is no way in hell we should ever be dominated in the post. man i cant wait untill the south carolina game now i just want to get past this loss. i honestly think this losshurts more than the vmi loss bc us fans were on cloud 9 about this team and to lose to a team like ole miss just hurts like hell

by hummer11092 on Jan 28, 2009 4:35 PM EST reply actions  

We'll get past it.

Fret not. Stay safe.

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by Truzenzuzex on Jan 28, 2009 4:54 PM EST up reply actions  

A Great, Great Post

Tru, it’s as if you were transponding over a virtual mind-link with me. You nailed it brother! Just as hope reared it’s fickle head – SLAM, last night’s game. I agree with every sentence. Hope this doesn’t look like sucking up to the Blog Meister!

by Bluegilla on Jan 28, 2009 4:48 PM EST reply actions  

Sucking up ...

… is just fine by me! :-)

Seriously, I know what you mean. Nobody makes an easy transition from semi-euphoria (AP love) followed by a surprise L in the same day.

That kind of sudden deceleration trauma has caused many a death among dogs and small animals. :-)

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by Truzenzuzex on Jan 28, 2009 4:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Very well said.

I would add that we just got beat. Unfortunately, it happens. If it didn’t, then a lot of good teams would finish the year with one loss. It doesn’t though. I don’t think anyone is undefeated.

We just got beat by a team that was hungry for something good to happen and it did. We maybe didn’t focus too well. We might be a bit road weary. Every night we face the best that the other team has to offer because of the very fact that we are Kentucky. And we got beat.

Now it’s time to learn the lesson and move on.

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by hoopchi on Jan 28, 2009 4:54 PM EST reply actions  

Indeed.

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by Truzenzuzex on Jan 28, 2009 4:56 PM EST up reply actions  

This game reminded me a lot of the Houston game from last year

We ran into a team that was fired up, very well prepared and they executed their game plan to perfection. They had players that stepped up and that was probably about as well as Ole Miss could have played. We most definitely underestimated them and that was certainly a factor in the final outcome.

I was disappointed with Perry Stevenson. He really struggled defensively and his rebounding was nowhere to be found. He was getting beat for lose balls, not playing aggressive and not boxing out. He’s gotta play better for us to be successful on the road.

We only had 10 turnovers, which is terrific, but there were at least 3 turnovers (in the 2nd half) that were caused by us being careless or forcing something that wasn’t there. Those hurt us a lot.

I would like to see Harrellson get some more pt and I think Galloway can help in certain situations too. I really liked what I saw from Miller and I think this could be the type of game that gives him a lot of confidence moving forward. He played well.

All in all, it wasn’t that bad of a game and it’s only ONE game. It doesn’t change my outlook for the rest of the season. Great post, Tru.

GBB!!!

by OGETARTS on Jan 28, 2009 4:58 PM EST reply actions  

The amazing thing is ...

… that Stevenson had seven rebounds. That isn’t all that bad, really. The problem is this — we shot significantly worse than Ole Miss and had only a 34% OR. Ole Miss, on the other hand, had a killer 43 OR%, even though they only had one more OR than UK in raw numbers.

a 43% OR% will jack your OE up every single time.

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by Truzenzuzex on Jan 28, 2009 5:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Who Said This?
"When a great team loses through complacency, it will constantly search for new and more intricate explanations to explain away defeat."

Think about that for a moment; answer at end.

A typical ASoBesque summation, thanks, Tru. I wonder if we fans aren’t guilty of looking for explanations for defeat instead of just admitting that a better team won on 1/27/09. Nevertheless, a few thoughts: as for Harris defending Huertas, Ramon only had 9 minutes of playing time while Huertas had 25 that leaves 16 minutes for someone else to have the responsibility. Who better than Meeks? Perhaps Miller but he was needed elsewhere. Ramon’s extensive liabilities on the offensive end make major minutes unproductive; expectations for scoring from Stevenson, Harris, Porter, Harrellson, Galloway, Stewart, is, considering their past history even as prep players, not likely. Due either to their lack of talent, confidence and/or previous expectations none are apt to rise above role player status. Miller and Liggins as freshmen are apt to be best candidates for scorer/producer. Overachieve and win is the mantra for remainder of season.

Quote is from a man who would know: Pat Riley.

by Wild Weasel on Jan 28, 2009 5:03 PM EST reply actions  

Miller should have guarded Huertas.

Meeks should have guarded Zach Grahm. They are both about the same size.

Kentucky does not need to overachieve to win, in my opinion. All they need to do is execute well and never, ever allow another team to want it more. This is really the first time in a long time they have done that.

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by Truzenzuzex on Jan 28, 2009 5:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Fatigue

Good analysis but I think you’re missing one thing. Coaching in the second half of the season is in large part about managing fatigue. IMHO the reason for the lack of intensity and focus was in large part due to fatigue. The Cats have been playing really hard and several of them are logging a lot of minutes. Combine that with the travel and BGC’s practices and that’s what you get. I think it’s BCG’s achilles heel, in his mind it’s always outwork your opponent. Sometimes you have to outhink your opponent and having the good sense to realize your guys are tired and need a break is probably one of the toughest things for a coach. Most coaches, Billy Clyde included, default to the “you’ve got to be mentally tough” mentality when it’s a matter of physiology, not psychology.

by Danvillecat on Jan 28, 2009 5:26 PM EST reply actions  

That's a fair point, also.

Although I must admit, I didn’t really see much fatigue. That could explain the lack of intensity, but I’m a little reluctant to go there just yet.

Still, it was a long road trip, and you are right that fatigue becomes more of a factor as the season wears on — particularly on the road.

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by Truzenzuzex on Jan 28, 2009 6:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Lack of intensity is the first sign

You’ll see it manifested first as a lack of intensity and slower reaction times. As it gets more pronounced it’s much more obvious. I’m not talking about the bending over grabbing the shorts stuff that the announcers go on about. It’s more of a lack of first step quickness, slow reaction time, jump shot going south type thing.

by Danvillecat on Jan 28, 2009 6:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Couple Fatigue Thoughts

Two actually, one a quote from Vince Lombardi:

Fatigue makes cowards of us all

The other a paraphrase from Bob Knight on last Saturday’s “Game Day”:

Fatigue is a myth. These are healthy 19-21-year olds we’re talking about who only have to play 2 games a week, have quality nutrition and less than 10 hours of practice. There is no way they’re getting fatigued.

Both confirm my theory that it’s all about mental preparation and commitment to the task at hand. Sometimes it’s missing. In athletics it can cost a loss; under more trying conditions — Iraq and Afghanistan, for instance — it can cost your life.

by Wild Weasel on Jan 28, 2009 6:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Fatigue is a myth?

Interesting perspective. You say Bob Knight said that? It only confirms my conclusion that he’s nuts. Only 2 games and 10 hours of practice for healthy 19-21 year olds. It’s entirely dependent on intensity but it’s easily possible to run anyone into the ground with that much time. If fatigue was a myth then why would the Olympic training staff go to such lengths to monitor the athletes hormonal levels, heartrate, etc. Testosterone to cortisol ratio……..nope, it’s just a myth. Decreased growth hormone, another myth. Bob Knight said it so it has to be true. If fatigue is just a myth then why would anyone ever take their starters out. All of the pros could play the entire 48 minute game and there would be no need to sub. They just need to toughen up.

by Danvillecat on Jan 28, 2009 6:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Stamina is the Issue

It increases up to about age 25-28 and then decreases. That’s a main reason why athletes in sports that require lots of stamina (many games, long season) like baseball, basketball and football have their best years between 24 years old and 27 or 28 years old.

18 to 22 year olds may have lots of energy but few of them have a lot of stamina. Fatigue leads to bad decisions. At this point in the season, playing smart (and coaching smart) is just as important as playing hard. Pro athletes (barring injury) can perform well up to age 35 or so because they learn to pace themselves.

The good news is that our opponents are going through the same thing.

by Fortunatus on Jan 29, 2009 9:55 PM EST up reply actions  

The defense and rebounding has been good most of the year....

UK has also been effiicient on the offensive end most of the year as evidenced by their high FG %. Last night there were too many defensive breakdowns and the Ole Miss’ offensive rebounds really hurt. UK did score 80 but some of that can be attributed to making 23 FT’s and they also scored 12 points in the final minute of a game that was basically lost at that point. 28 3-point attempts is entirely too many for a team that doesn’t exactly light it up from that range.

It doesnt matter to me if UK can establish that elusive “third scorer” as long as there is well balanced scoring outside of the “dynamic duo”. In other words, UK needs more players to step up and score in order to allow Meeks and P Pat to do their thing and take some of the pressure off those two. From the 7:30 mark to the :35 second mark UK made 3 FG’s. This stretch really hurt because Ole Miss did not exactly light it up during that time and UK could have made a patented run to take control of the game. This tells me that there are offensive defencies that need to be worked out. Better shot selection and more confidence outside of the big 2 can be worked out. Come tourney time, UK will need to address the offense and establish more balanced scoring because I do believe the defense will be there.

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by SevenRings on Jan 28, 2009 5:53 PM EST reply actions  

The most concerning part of last night to me was...

when DeAndre Liggins failed to even recognize the potential weakness in Ole Miss’ defense at the end of the game. When DeAundre Cranston fouled out with a little over four minutes left, it left a huge hole in the middle of Miss’ defense. I don’t mind a player taking 16 shots a game, sometimes you aren’t going to be hitting them… (or even the rim for that matter :)). That’s no big deal to me. But the role of a true point guard is to distribute the ball effectively, and so far, he is virtually inept at doing this when it counts. Patterson should have been easily able to wear away at them in the waning minutes last night, but we were treated to Liggins, Harris and even Perry’s bombs from deep when we really only down six!!!!! I understand that DeAndre is a freshman, but so is Terrico White and the dispairity between them was readily apparent last night, at least to me. I continue to hope for improvement, but the on going battle between his ability and his ego seems to be neverending.

I need a Sea of Blue because I am surrounded by Tennessee orange!

by sleepytimetea on Jan 28, 2009 6:12 PM EST reply actions  

Yeah. All that is true.

He’ll learn. He works very hard on defense, and I think his offensive recognition is just lagging a bit. He’ll get there.

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by Truzenzuzex on Jan 28, 2009 6:14 PM EST up reply actions  

LSU V Tennessee tonight...

could be good. I am still not sure how good LSU is but they are definitely in the upper half of the SEC IMO. Another UT loss would help alot.

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by SevenRings on Jan 28, 2009 6:37 PM EST reply actions  

SBN

I would like to thank tRU and the rest of you for a great blog. Living in the northern part of In. I get very little news about big blue. I have been a Ky. fan for longer than most of your ages (maybe). Anyway since I’ve found SBN I have been able to keep up with the news of the Ky. teams. So thank all of you for the great job. I enjoy all of the comments and friendly jabs and thank you for making my life a little more enjoyable.
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by kyblue34 on Jan 28, 2009 7:08 PM EST reply actions  

Welcome ...

… glad to have you. You are welcome here, and we try to keep on top of the ’Cats. Thanks for reading.

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by Truzenzuzex on Jan 28, 2009 7:50 PM EST up reply actions  

A big warm welcome kyblue34

So glad you have joined us and I have to say we have the mostest UK blog on the Internet.

I enjoy the serious comments from our members here, but sometimes the funny gets very hilarious, and I love that too so much!

Enjoy!

by kykat51 on Jan 28, 2009 9:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Good post, Tru,

and I agree with the thrust of almost all the comments. We KNEW that, when Meeks finally went cold, we would need someone else in addition to Patterson to step up. No one did, although Liggins tried, albeit ineptly.
   
Today, my boss, who is a sports fan, but not necessarily a basketball freak, asked me, “Why did they all stand around open begging for someone to pass to?” I had to tell him that I hadn’t a clue. The idea that there are college basketball players, on the UK team and many others I see, who have a basic inability/unwillingness to shoot from 15-20 feet, simply astounds me. I don’t expect everyone to shoot 60% from the arc, but when a supposedly skilled college player is open a full step inside that arc and shoots brick after brick, I’m puzzled. Maybe jump shots don’t make the Top Ten Plays of the Day, but doggone it, they score points.

  I totally agree with Seven Rings that we don’t have to have another guy average a bunch of points a game, but almost any skilled college BB player should be a THREAT to do exactly that. So far, our guys aren’t very threatening in that regard.

Losses are a tough instructor, but they do teach, nonetheless. Hopefully our favorite team and coach will learn from this one. It’s gonna be a long February if they don’t.

BE safe, everyone, and for all of you in the story areas, stay warm.

by oldcat'69 on Jan 28, 2009 7:13 PM EST reply actions  

I couldn't agree more.

Why were they standing around. Forget Patterson and Meeks if they are covered — attack!

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by Truzenzuzex on Jan 28, 2009 7:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Now that I have calmed down.....

I will try to articulate how I feel about last night. I was going to post last night, but felt that frustration might keep me from making anything resembling a rational point. Tru, I could not agree with you more about our role players needing to ‘man up’. I cannot watch many more games of them playing scared, just waiting for PPat and Meeks to score. Last night I was stuck between hating Liggins’ shot selection and being glad that someone other than the big two was brave enough to try and be an offensive factor. Ultimately, after his 27th ill-advised shot, the hate boiled over and drowned the glad.

For this team to be really good, the role players need to get mean and start playing like animals. Controlled animals of course.

by DeadHeadCat on Jan 28, 2009 8:58 PM EST reply actions  

Not so bad

Just look at tonight’s games: #1 Duke, #3 Pitt, #15 Syracuse, and #23 Georgetown all go down, all on the road. Duke is the only team that lost to a better opponent.

Oh yes, and with just under 4 minutes in the first half, UNC is down 32-28 at Florida St.

That should help put some perspective on last night’s outcome – it certainly does for me.

...when you let other people tell you what success is, you already have no chance of ever finding it. - Doug Glanville

by JLeverenz on Jan 28, 2009 9:46 PM EST reply actions  

does anybody think there is even a chance of us staying in the polls? i mean i doubt it too but everybody else lost 2nite. anyways did anyone else notice how bad liggins shot selection was last night?

by hummer11092 on Jan 28, 2009 10:02 PM EST reply actions  

Watched the 2nd half again

My impressions after watching the 2nd half again on the DVR and replaying several plays:

Meeks was terrible for the first 10 minutes of the 2nd half. He was out of position on several plays which led to wide open 3 pointers when someone else had to cover for him. Forced shots, turnovers, it was definitely not his night

Poor switching on the high screen led to easy baskets. KY looked like they’d never dealt with a screen before.

Poor rotation on defense and no blocking out by Stevenson. Just lethargic.

Two straight trips with a turnover by Miller. Some terrible shots by Liggins.

Too much standing on offense. Several plays where they just stood around and watched Liggins. It was either fatigue or they were wondering what kind of crazy shot was he getting ready to launch next. Several trips with no effort to hit the offensive boards, I mean NO effort at all.

They generally looked fatigued. I stand by my earlier post regarding fatigue. Early in the 2nd half Huertas drove right around Meeks and both Patterson and Stevenson just stood flat footed as he took it all the way in for a layup. No way that should happen. They didn’t even bend their knees and think about jumping.

by Danvillecat on Jan 28, 2009 11:26 PM EST reply actions  

No leadership

on the floor during that stretch. Nobody was trying to get the others organized.

by Fortunatus on Jan 29, 2009 10:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Good summary

Tru……..first let me say to my fellow Kentuckians……..my prayers are with all of yall right now during this awful ice storm busness. I am just now realizing how bad it was. I live in West Tennessee and it wasn’t bad just snow but just north of where I live it was bad so the local news has been talking about it. I had no idea that further north in Ky is was pretty bad. Yall please stay safe.

I don’t get overanalytical on games/ my mind isn’t built that way. I used to be a player and coach would show us the plays and we would play them to the best of our ability. I don’t understand alot of the defensive schemes/subbing in and out. Alot of times when I analyze a game I just kind of look at it from a players perspective. So forgive me if I don’t know alot of techincal terms but what I saw was Ole Miss=good offense and boards that equaled a win. The defense was good to but honestly we didn’t hit the irons worth a crap. Somehow we got 80 points but I would like to know how many shots were taken. Ramon looked lost which hurt us. Stevenson had an off game, gonna happen. Bad decisions from Liggins AND Miller(they tried to rush the shot). Its seems we got away from trying to wear em down concept. All in all though it wasn’t horrible. NC game was horrible this was just a “luck” thing for Ole Miss. Plain and simplistic I know but that is how I saw it. I have to disagree a bit with the two or three players away…….

We have a top scorer in Meeks……….we have a big man in Patterson. You put some responsible guard/small forwards in there and you have a final four team. There in lies, Liggins, Miller, Stevenson. If Liggins and Miller will get some more experience and make good decisions this team IS UNBEATABLE. We arent’ two or three players away from a final four team, I think we have that if that mature!!! Again I am not an expert but its just my opionion that we have shown some great basketball and could beat anyone if we click on all cylinders.

by tenken on Jan 29, 2009 12:02 AM EST reply actions  

so close yet so far

very very good point tenken the only thing we are missing is production from our role players. we have the best guard in the ncaa + one of the best post players in the ncaa. we really dont need too much from our role players all we need is solid defense, smart shot selection, not too many turnovers, setting picks for meeks, solid rebounding/blocking out and a few points here and there and we’re a much much better team. its really frustrating to know we have so much talent and we’re so close to being a really good team but not quite there/

by hummer11092 on Jan 29, 2009 12:09 AM EST reply actions  

Use the bench!

BG has to start using his bench when the other players are not contributing to the team. Rebounding, defense, hustle, is based on hard work and focus. I did not see that at Old Miss. I agree with his practice hard = start position, but once the game begins, if that player is not producing positive play to help his team, someone else needs to be given that opportunity.
I agree with going with the player’s strength, and Jodie should not be our defensive stopper, let someone who can’t shoot well be that, Ramon comes to mind. Sloan could of done a better job of forcing the Old Miss point guard out of position on the defensive end. Liggins needs to mature and learn at a slower pace to be successful, the guys on the bench need to be given more time to develope before March!

by Steadfast D on Jan 29, 2009 10:01 AM EST reply actions  

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