More, More, More ... How do you like your Meeks?
Ah, the disco classic from Andrea True Connection. So smooth, so ... unforced. For those of you who went through that era like me, no song could be more appropriately representative of Jodie Meeks' marvelous Rocky Top Eruption.
TCP/IP packets are still flying around the Internet at near-lightspeed, talking about you-know-who, the man who would supplant Tyler Hansborough, Blake Griffin, et. al. as a possible NCAA basketball player of the year. Dropping 54 with a line like Jodie Meeks had last night will get some attention, and we can consider that attention got.
I just got back from watching the play Wicked, a modern prequel to the Wizard of Oz. Great show, but I felt the need ... the need for Meeks!
Here is a little ditty written last night by member johnr, to the tune of "Rocky Top":
Once we had a guard named Jodie Meeks
Half god the other half cat
Fifty-four record points he dropped
We'll always dream about that
JODIE MEEKS, YOU'LL ALWAYS BE
SWEET STRING MUSIC TO ME
GOOD OL' JODIE MEEKS
RAINY DOWN ALL 'EM THREES
Many Vols tried to guard Mr. Jodie Meeks
But he just imposed his will
Found that they can't stop ol' Jodie Meeks
Reckon he's scorin' still?
JODIE MEEKS, YOU'LL ALWAYS BE
AUTOMATIC TO ME
GOOD OL' JODIE MEEKS
LIGHTING UP TENNESSEE
LIGHTING UP TENNESSEE!
Oh, hell yeah, my feet are still tappin'. If you don't like that song, you might be a Vol fan.
One of the Big Blue Nation's favorite whipping boys, Andy Katz, has a piece on the UK-UT game last night, but mostly from the perspective of Tennessee. But Miami (FL) coach Frank Haith was quoted thus:
"We were fortunate that he had an off-night against us," Miami coach Frank Haith said. The Hurricanes switched defenses against Kentucky that night to attempt to keep Meeks out of sync.
"Jodie has done a great job developing into being a well-rounded player," Haith said. "He's not only a shooter, he can score off the dribble, a good defender and they've got a great inside-out combination. [Forward] Patrick Patterson and Jodie Meeks are pros. That Kentucky win we had was a good win. Some people said Kentucky was subpar or that this wasn't a normal Kentucky team. They've got two pros. They're good."
That Miami game still galls me. Imagine if we had won that and the UT game. We would surely have the full attention of everyone instead of playing the role normally played by teams like Florida State and Georgia Tech -- you know, the dangerous teams that don't get any recognition until the play one of the "big boys."
Your Team Stinks says that Tennessee clearly forgot to bring the Kryptonite. I'm not sure that would have helped against Bizarro Meeks. The article also tells me something that I wasn't really aware of -- Meeks has set two arena scoring records this year, at Freedom Hall and at Thompson-Bowling Arena.
John Clay says that Jodie Meeks is now getting player of the year attention, and of course, that's what we have all been talking about for the last day and one half. But Mike DeCourcy poured a little cold water on the whole "Meeks for POY" deal:
"I do think the current malaise in SEC basketball could hurt Jodie's chances," DeCourcy wrote. "He'll get the opportunity to do impressive things on TV, like he did against Tennessee, but it's unlikely there'll be any one game that carries the weight of a Duke-North Carolina or Pitt-UConn. That does make a difference."
"Malaise in the SEC?" Mike, you're one of my favorites, but c'mon. The SEC isn't the Big East, but have you never heard of a rebuilding year? They may surprise everyone by year end, so don't tempt us to saw that limb off from beneath you.
Of course, we can count on Jerry Tipton to produce the most offensive headline of the day:
UK's win over Vols turns SEC upside down
Since when is Kentucky leading the SEC, "upside down," Jerry? Granted, UK isn't North Carolina this year, but anyone with a hint of basketball IQ knew the 'Cats are on equal terms at least with any team in this league. Get real. He goes on with this risible blather:
An opening-night loss to Virginia Military Institute seemed to confirm UK's status as an also-ran. So did the continuation of a streak of losses against ranked teams that reached six games.
Then Kentucky beat No. 24 Tennessee.
Jerry, you're killing me here. Did the two excellent neutral court victories in Las Vegas somehow escape your notice? How about the last-second loss to a miracle shot at Louisville? The comfortable win over a decent Vanderbilt team?
I guess so.
Dan Issel seems to be taking his new status as second-highest point scorer in UK history in stride:
"I watched every minute of it. I told my wife (Cheri) before halftime, that he's got a chance to break it," Issel said of Meeks having 26 points at the half. "I guess you probably hope that it's not going to be broken. But, quite frankly, I was surprised that it took 39 years for it to be broken."
No surprise there. Dan has always been a class act, and it's an honor just having his name associated with Kentucky. And another well-known class act formerly associated with Kentucky had some nice things to say, as well:
"When you think about all the great players that have gone through Kentucky, that's just a remarkable feat," Smith said. "And to do it at Tennessee -- oh, wow! That's the best gift to the Bluegrass I think in years."
That's right, it's former UK head coach Tubby Smith, they guy responsible for bringing Meeks to Kentucky. Thanks, Coach Smith.
Finally, if some of you are wondering (and I know you are) if that little school 75 miles down I-64 has ever had a similar offensive outburst by a player, ask and you shall receive. Mike over at Card Chronicle lists the most historic U of L individual performances, and you will most certainly recognize some of those names.
The most interesting thing, though, is that only one Cardinal has gone for 36 points or more in the era of the 3-point shot. Check it out to see who that was.
Good night to all. More tomorrow.
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tru for all the info. I hope Meeks gets POY but he has some stiff competition. I just like that he is being talked about. I like Kentucky getting exposure. Its been awhile. I watched some games tonight and I don’t feel more relaxed about the SEC. I feel more scared that it won’t be as easy as last year. Auburn looks better. MSU looks better. Arkansas is just killing themselves(they lost to Ole MIss tonight). But Florida looks good too. On Tennessee, we may have woken a sleeping giant yall. I have this nagging gut feeling that Tennessee will not lose again until they meet us. Don’t have any stats, or articles or anything other then my gut telling me.
Georgia concerns me. Can we come off this high? I think that the fact that we lost to them last year in a weird game means that our guys will want some revenge, but I can almost guarentee you Meeks will have a low scoring game. But that means PP can get fed. It won’t be Georgia making Meeks miss but it will be Meeks. Shooting is such a weird thing. You are either in the zone or your not. Most times if you have an excellent shooting game, the next game you don’t. Alot of this is because your head is in it to much. No stats on this just from what I remember. Shooting is 90 percent…….head 10 percent skill.
by tenken on Jan 15, 2009 12:16 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Stephen Curry
What conference is Davidson in? Does anyone even know? Is Curry not in the discussion because of the permenant “malaise” of that conference, whatever it is?
Can a basketball conference even be metaphorically uneasy or physically ill? Perhaps the simpler term, weak, would have been more succinct.
Thanks for the posting the tune…I’m singing along.
by LyricSmith on Jan 15, 2009 6:08 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
that's a really good point, lyricsmith
If Curry playing in the Southern conference isn’t hurting his POY chances, why should Meeks’ playing in the SEC—a major conference, for heaven’s sake—be a hinderance to his chances? I guess what DeCoursey is saying is that everyone already knew about Curry from last year, and everyone already considers him a candidate, but for someone like Meeks, a latecomer who is coming from behind (in the minds of the national media, anyway), he is hurt by the fact that his conference is having a relatively down year. At any rate, I’m sure Meeks is a decided underdog in the race, but it is so gratifying to have him in the discussion at least.
by blue kentucky girl on Jan 15, 2009 12:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Southern Conference, I Think
Curry is in the POY discussion everywhere I have read.
by FortyYearCatFan on Jan 15, 2009 6:21 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
About the VMI Tipton comment
Has anybody been paying attention to VMI is doing this year? They are currently 14-2 and leading their conference. They are definitely not Gardner Webb. NO, we should not have lost to a team like that but they are a solid team. As I was browsing the national stats for scoring to see how Meeks compared, I noticed that VMI has the leader in steals as well as the 3rd place guy. It’s no wonder Porter and others struggled that first night of the season.
by cthom on Jan 15, 2009 7:32 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
That loss is not nearly as bad as it could have been.
But it is still a bad loss, unless VMI captures the full attention of the media, and in their conference, I’d say that is impossible. The best we can hope for is for VMI to make the tourney.
A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan
by Truzenzuzex on Jan 15, 2009 8:32 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
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think the fact that it was our first game with alot of new players and that VMI shoots lights out maybe helps a bit. I do hope that we play VMI in the tourney. That would be awesome.
by tenken on Jan 15, 2009 9:16 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Not me.
Once was more than enough. I fear teams like that in the tournament, they are often able to play far, far above their talent level.
But I would love to have them back in the regular season. They were a great team to play, even if we did lose.
A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan
by Truzenzuzex on Jan 15, 2009 9:20 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
very true
but I still think we would beat them! At least I hope we do. I am hoping we find a way to defend the three better. I know TN didn’t get many in but they haven’t been good from the three from the games I watched(remember I live with a VOL).
by tenken on Jan 15, 2009 9:23 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed.
I would like to see VMI knock some other big name school out of the tourney. ;)
by kentuckygirl0724 on Jan 16, 2009 11:29 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That would be perfect
Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."
by chirop1 on Jan 16, 2009 1:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree
While the nature of a loss to VMI is fodder for the press, in reality, they are a much tougher team than many people realize. I keep hoping that as VMI continues their strong season, it will lessen the impact of KY’s loss to them.
by StillCatwoman on Jan 15, 2009 9:18 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Future More than Past
Future games for Meeks and for the team I believe to be much more important than the past. Meeks is now on the radar. If he could follow it up with more great games and UK can keep winning, the story might read “it took the team a while to get back into form” or “Meeks was always hot, we just started seeing it when…”. That’s how media buzz works. Someone says something like “UK needs a 3rd scorer”, the next person repeats it and then it gets legs. Right now, Meeks IS in the POY conversation. He can stay in the conversation based on what he does in the future. Past games mean very little. My humble opinion at least.
By the way, I would take Curry and Meeks against any back court in the Big East. :-)
by LyricSmith on Jan 15, 2009 8:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Another Meeks accomplishment
Let me preface by saying this comment is all in good fun, but perhaps the most amazing accomplishment by Meeks was producing back-to-back 100+ comment posts on ASOB that did not mention the previous coach!
Disclaimers (read at a pace only achievable by the Micro Machines guy): I like Tubby Smith. I think he’s a great guy. I appreciate everything he did at UK, including recruiting Jodie Meeks. I think and hope Tubby will do well at Minnesota, where he went of his own volition because it was a better fit. I like Billy Gillispie and think he will do great things at UK. He has certainly aided Meeks’ development, which is not to say Meeks wouldn’t have developed under Tubby Smith. Meeks is the man. I love ASOB and all its posters with their diverse but well-thought-out opinions.
Did I miss anything? On second thought, don’t tell me if I did!
by Acdixon on Jan 15, 2009 10:47 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
New Coaches Usually Help
Pitino helped Miller, Hanson, Pelphrey, Feldhaus, Farmer become better players than they were under Sutton.
Tubby helped Sheppard, Nazr, Padgett, Turner, Edwards become better players than under Pitino.
Sutton helped most of the 1985-86 roster become better players than they were on the 1984-85 team.
Gillispie helped Crawford, Bradley, Meeks, Porter, Harris, Stevenson get better than they were before.
Etc, etc, etc.
by FortyYearCatFan on Jan 15, 2009 1:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
ok
seriously……….sheppard? He was already great :)
by tenken on Jan 15, 2009 4:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
But he was FAR better under Smith
There was a reason he redshirted the 97 season.
Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."
by chirop1 on Jan 15, 2009 4:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Never Said "Far"
Just said “better” in 1998. See above for clarification.
by FortyYearCatFan on Jan 15, 2009 5:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You didn't...
But I did. I do think Sheppard was far better as a senior.
Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."
by chirop1 on Jan 15, 2009 5:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Pitino
redshirted Shep because of playing time for DA.
by -Zoso- on Jan 17, 2009 7:15 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
True Dat
The 1997 UK team had too many SG to play them all.
Anderson, later Edwards and Mills, played SG in 97.
Sheppard had his best year at UK in 1998.
by FortyYearCatFan on Jan 17, 2009 8:44 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Not Even Close
He played little in 1994, started in 1995 but ordinary stats, strictly back-up in 1996. Never averaged close to 10 ppg those 3 years.
Averaged 13 ppg and made All-SEC as senior.
http://www.bigbluehistory.net/bb/statistics/Players/Sheppard_Jeff.html Read ’em and weep.
by FortyYearCatFan on Jan 15, 2009 5:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Wicked
I caught that on Saturday at the Kentucky Center. Very entertaining.
Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."
by chirop1 on Jan 15, 2009 2:26 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

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