Impressions from Saturday's Pick Up Games
Editor's note: This belongs on the front page for a while. I know it's football season, but we are getting close to midnight madness. Thanks to the author.
Ramon Harris- didn’t display the slashing drive to the rim that has been reported this summer
but did hit a couple of deep threes. If he can do this consistently it would greatly benefit the
cats.
Pat-was classic Pat-got elbowed in the nose in the first game and continued to bleed all over his shirt the rest of the afternoon
Pilgrim- if he could play this season we would dominate anyone in the country in the front court. Pilgrim
is a beast. He displayed some low post moves and a couple nice jump shots and has a mean
streak every team can use. Too bad he isn’t playing this season.
Harrelson- displayed a nice jump shot and had several rebounds (although none of them were in traffic)
He is a tad slow but I do think his shot will really help open the floor for Pat.
Meeks- was Jodie. His three ball wasn’t quite hitting when I saw him but he looks to be back in very
good health.
Stevenson- didn’t see too much from him
Stewart-hardly noticed he was playing
Porter- Solid but unspectacular play. Took care of the ball and hit some jumpers. Exactly what we need
from him. I really see Porter opening the season at point guard if he isn’t a defensive liability.
Miller/Liggins/Galloway- all three didn’t show too much. Liggins likes to pass and forced a couple that
weren’t there. Galloway doesn’t strike me as a point guard and unless Miller really steps it up
once organized play begins I don’t see him in the rotation much once conference play begins.
Donald Williams- was very active. Had a couple nice drives and really likes the fadeaway jumper.
Jon hood- seems to already be a member of the team. Played quite well and has a very sweet jump shot.
He could contribute to the team this season and I think he is going be one of G’s best recruits
over the next several years. I am very excited to see him in blue and white. He lit AJ Stewart up
in a pregame game of horse (not hard to do). While all them members of the team were in the locker room hood was out on the court by himself getting shots in and really seems to be a good kid who doesn’t let the attention he receives go to his head. I cant say enough how impressed I am with him.
Vee Samford?- is a guard at Lexcath. He’s really tiny but very active, got into the lane several times and
played quite well. He would get abused in the SEC and according to a friend of mine who has
played against him is incredibly streaky. He can go for 40 one game and disappear for the next
three. I don’t think UK is recruiting him. I think he was just there playing. \
This is a list of all the players I recognized. There were quite a few that I didn’t. The 2010 guard that looks like Jai Lucas was there but I don’t know his name and didn’t see him play. These games truly were pickup and I don’t think any conclusions about the season can really be drawn from them. It was really fun getting to see everyone play though. I tried to highlight parts of their games that came through that I think we will see this season on the court. I am pumped up and excited about the Blue/White game. It’s a much better event than midnight madness and I will be there.
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Thanks
For your insight..i too look forward to this season! GO CATS!
" I believe in pipedreams"
by Magnoliacat on Sep 30, 2008 1:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for the report
It’s good to hear from multiple sources that Patterson and Meeks seem to be perfectly healthy.
I nominate “Pat Was Classic Pat” as Patterson’s new nickname.
"That's not a Sherman tank, it's Frank Thomas!" - Monkeyball
by JLeverenz on Sep 30, 2008 1:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
10 Deep (Or More)
F Harris, Miller
F Patterson, Stewart
C Stevenson, Harrellson
G Meeks, Porter
G Liggins, Galloway
UK signed Vince Sanford in 1983 but he didn’t attend. Wonder is he is Vee’s Dad or Uncle???
by FortyYearCatFan on Sep 30, 2008 5:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hard to argue with you Forty and the combinations could be even more varied.
Porter could be needed more at the other guard position backing up Liggins and Miller, who is not much different in size than Stewart, could back up at the other Forward position. If Williams does well in practice, he might subplant Porter, who might supplant Galloway in the LG position. Lots of possibilities. I think it is obvious that Carter and Stewart have to really show something to play a lot of minutes. The other 10 players all have stronger opportunities to play more than last year.
Forty, I think your starting five looks good, with Porter being the first guard off the bench when Coach G. wants “to make a point” to Liggins. I see Harrellson as the first big guy off the bench at F or C. and Miller as the first off the bench in the backup to Meeks or Harris. Of course, I could be totally wrong and Galloway would be the first off the bench because he can play 3-4 backup positions. Confused? It is just like the discussion of which cup had the poison in “Princess Bride”.
The interesting point is that for short periods of time, five new players can be inserted into the game that would rest the starters and still have a run and gun team that would play good defense. My choice of second team would be almost the same. It all depends on if they can play defense. Might have to come up with some zone defense that this team could play if they can’t stay with their man.
F Galloway
F Miller
C Harrellson
G Williams
G Porter
by Blueobsessed on Sep 30, 2008 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Only Carter Will Get Little PT
The other 11 will get PT ranging from 5-10 minutes to 30-35 (Patterson, maybe Meeks).
When SEC rolls around, UK will pick 5 starters and 1 sub at F, C, and G. Those 8 will play 190+ minutes of PT in calendar year 2009.
by FortyYearCatFan on Sep 30, 2008 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Barring injuries and poor grades it
looks to me like the starting lineup you posted looks secure.At this time, I think Harrellson is the only secure backup for Center/Forward. Coach could play three people in those two positions. You know, my three sons.(Patterson, Stevenson, Harrellson)
The other Forward position could be backedup by a guard (Galloway, Miller, Williams) who could also backup Meeks. That leaves Porter and Galloway to battle it out for the other guard position.
If you are correct, six people will be vying for three positions. During the OOC games players 6-11 need to show coach something. IMO the best ball handler, who doesn’t turn the ball over, hits a good rate of free throws and will score some points (5-8) will be the back up guard. Coach could also use Meeks as the back up LG and use some else to back up SG.
In the Foward and Center backup positions, we have to have people who will get the rebounds, play great defense, not turn the ball over, and hit their free throws. These backup players need also to be able to score 5-8 ppg.
If we have a bench that contributes that kind of quality play, it doesn’t matter how many play. our team will be greatly helped. That kind of support would also help if a key player happens to foul ourt.
by Blueobsessed on Sep 30, 2008 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Coach G's statements (on Spam's page)have helped me figure some things out
about additional offense. Easy scores from BALL MOVEMENT, STEALS, OFFENSIVE REBOUNDS AND FAST BREAKS; ie.Team Ball! If you play with the intensity (pressure offense asl weel as pressure defense) needed to breakdown your opponent, those 5-8 ppg will come even if you may not be such a great shot.
See Forty, you convinced me. This year it is not a person who will be the third option, but rather the rest of the team. The only difference is that IMO that team will run 10 deep rather than 8.
by Blueobsessed on Oct 1, 2008 8:09 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's ...
… pretty much my take as well.
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by Truzenzuzex on Oct 1, 2008 8:51 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
In CY 2009
UK will shorten its rotation to 7 or 8. The #7 and #8 may vary from game to game.
by FortyYearCatFan on Oct 1, 2008 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for the report
I am very excited about this team.
I had read in other reports that some of the players were just so so, not really giving an allout effort. Guess they knew what was coming Monday. Needed to save energy for the “Boot Camp”…which I am sure all the newbies had rec’d info from the veterans. Hopefully all are well-conditioned from summer and we won’t suffer injuries this time around. Keeping my fingers crossed.
by kykat51 on Sep 30, 2008 5:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Better than what I posted
But then again, I wasn’t really putting much effort in tracking the players’ efforts. :)
by TheFakeGimelMartinez on Sep 30, 2008 6:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
See ...
… that’s why you got fired. :-)
Just kidding. Don’t shoot me, I’m only the … blogger guy, or whatever. :-)
A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan
by Truzenzuzex on Sep 30, 2008 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've been out of the loop
for a bit apparently. John Hood, is he a local boy that’s committed to UK? I remember reading something about him a while ago but I can’t find any info regarding where he’s from. All I could find was some dude who was born in Kentucky and led troops at Bull Run and Antietam. Doubt he’s got any eligibility left. ha
by bluecrip on Sep 30, 2008 8:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Madisonville KY
Jon Hood hails from Frank Ramsey/Travis Ford territory.
by FortyYearCatFan on Sep 30, 2008 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hood Ranks All Over The Place
http://home.nc.rr.com/rsci/RSCI_100_Summer_2009.htm But #71 overall.
Rivals had him 5* but dropped him to 4* now. Scout has him 4* also.
by FortyYearCatFan on Oct 1, 2008 6:46 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Regardless of the star level, Hood will be a very good player at UK...
…with the possibility of becoming a GREAT one by the end of his collegiate experience. It was amazing to see how seemlessly he blended into the team at the pickup games.
by BBallSophist on Oct 1, 2008 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No Doubt
Gerald Fitch was barely 3* but one heckuva player at UK. Ditto Erik Daniels, Marquis Estill, Ramel Bradley…etc.
by FortyYearCatFan on Oct 1, 2008 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who Will Play
As a head coach, Billy has pretty consistently played 7 guys 20-plus minutes per game with 2 or 3 playing 35 or more. A couple more players get 7-8 minutes per game. It was that way at Kentucky last year (even with all the injuries) and it was that way at both Texas schools. He’s not apt to change much.
This year’s “Iron Men” are likely to be Patterson (for sure), Stevenson (if he doesn’t foul too much) & Meeks (if he demonstrates consistency). Harris, Harrellson, Porter and Liggins should round out the top 7. Stewart and Galloway are likely to be the ones who get close to 10 per game.
People who have been here for a year have a big advantage over newcomers, even if the newcomers have more “talent” or athleticism. Any player who can get the rack and score or get fouled and his free throws will increase his playing time.
by Fortunatus on Oct 1, 2008 1:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Any player who can get the rack and score or get fouled and his free throws will increase his playing time.
I would add “Play hard defense” to the list of requirements of getting on the floor.
Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."
by chirop1 on Oct 1, 2008 2:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree. A great defense will generate more offense for us.
by Blueobsessed on Oct 1, 2008 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Memphis Had A Great Offense
Kansas has the NCAA trophy because of strong(er) defense.
by FortyYearCatFan on Oct 1, 2008 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tipton's Interview with Coach G
http://blog.kentuckysportsradio.com/?p=7661#comments
There is someone else asking questions besides Tipton but I don’t who, just a different voice. Coach does an excellent job!
It is at the bottom of this link…Go Cats!
by kykat51 on Oct 1, 2008 8:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The 2003 Cats Were Close To Those 2
And 2005 Cats weren’t far off. Nor were 2004 Cats.
by FortyYearCatFan on Oct 2, 2008 6:58 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
"Those 2"
Are you seriously implying that the 2004 and 2005 teams were almost as good as Memphis and Kansas from last year? The teams that got run out of the gym by UAB and the team that had to scrap and claw their way to the Elite 8 to lose to a middle of the road Michigan State team?
I’m as much of a homer as anyone out there, but I think you must not have been watching the same Kansas and Memphis teams last year as I was. 96 Kentucky would have mopped up the floor with either one of them. 97 Kentucky (when healthy) would have beat both. But I honestly think both teams could have given the 98 title team a run for their money.
The only non-title team of recent memory that I would put up there with those two would have been Keith Bogans’ 2003 team if they were entirely healthy.
Memphis and Kansas both far outclassed the 04 and 05 teams.
Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."
by chirop1 on Oct 3, 2008 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Indeed
The 2004 team was THE overall #1 seed in the NCAA tourney.
The 2005 team “wasn’t far off” as I stated.
by FortyYearCatFan on Oct 3, 2008 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sheer speed
The sheer speed of both of those teams was unlike anything we’ve had at Kentucky in half a decade.
The ‘04 team couldn’t keep up with UAB when it became a track meet! What makes you think they could hang with KU or Memphis?
My argument for the 05 team is similar.
Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."
by chirop1 on Oct 3, 2008 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
2004 Had An Off Day
And 2005 was “not far off” as I stated.
by FortyYearCatFan on Oct 3, 2008 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
04 team
The UAB game was an aberration and the “speed” that Memphis and Kansas had last year was very good but nothing Cliff Hawkins and Gerald Fitch couldnt handle.
Memphis and Kansas had very good athletes but I think many of their players are still developing their game. The 04 team with the exception of the UAB could of handled either one.
I think Eric Daniels and Chuck Hayes would have been too much for joey dorsey to handle and cliff hawkings and fitch could have stuck with either of those teams guards easily. 04 was a better basketball team IMO.
05 Im not too sure about.
DEEETROIT BASKETBALLL!!!
by davw83 on Oct 3, 2008 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's right Doc.
‘03 was a very special team. What they were able to accomplish, especially defensively, was amazing without any real size. Bogans’ ankle left us without anyone to slow down D Wade. Healthy, they might have been able to be a title team, but I can’t put the next two years (04 & 05) on ‘08 Kansas or Memphis’ level either. They were so talented, deep and athletic. Although, I think we would have had the advantage on the sidelines. I think Tubby is a better coach than Self or Cal.
by racercat98 on Oct 3, 2008 4:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Look At The NBA Players On 2004 And 2005 Rosters
Fitch, Daniels, Hayes, Azuibuike on 2004 team.
Hayes, Azubuike, Rondo, Morris, Crawford on 2005 team.
Not bad. Not bad at all.
The 2008 Kansas STATE team beat Kansas. On a given day…ya never know.
by FortyYearCatFan on Oct 3, 2008 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Stewart...
Is out of WiIdcat Lodge because of lack of work during the preseason summer and boot camp. He is still part of the team, just living off campus. Lost his work ethic? I think we all know that Coach will not stand for that type of attitude. Hope he can get his mind set on track.
by kykat51 on Oct 3, 2008 5:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He Will Transfer By Semester Break (Like Myron Anthony In Dec 1997)
I think I know where. Just a hunch. We’ll C what happens.
by FortyYearCatFan on Oct 3, 2008 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
A hunch Forty?
I think it is better than that. Why don’t you just say Minnesota?
by kykat51 on Oct 3, 2008 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
NOT Minnesota
I THINK Kansas State, where a couple of his Jax ACD teammates are playing.
by FortyYearCatFan on Oct 3, 2008 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Stewart
I can see that happening.
DEEETROIT BASKETBALLL!!!
by davw83 on Oct 3, 2008 5:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Same
And our questions about where we’re going to get an extra scholarship for next year seem to be answering themselves…
Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."
by chirop1 on Oct 3, 2008 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
I think most of us saw this one coming. Stewart and Coach G never quite seemed to mesh. I think he’ll barely see the floor this year, and 40 may well be right that he’s gone by mid-season.
by Acdixon on Oct 3, 2008 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Stewart
Falling asleep watching game films is bad enough, but not implementing what the Coach saw on those films didn’t help. It is not like he didn’t have a chance when Patterson went down. Even this year, with Pilgrim breathing down his neckand maybe another outstanding recruit coming in next year, you would think the motivation would be there. I see Miller taking that initiative. If he doesn’t, Miller may follow Stewart next year.
by Blueobsessed on Oct 3, 2008 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

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