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Donald Williams: Truth or dare?

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Marc Maggard has this post (free subscription required) about Kentucky's latest verbal, Donald Williams, over at his new site called True Blue Kentucky.  What happened to Kentucky Ink?  Well, Maggard and some others at Kentucky Ink parted ways, and now we have two sites.  Be sure to visit both.

OK, now to the particulars.  Maggard tells us that Donald Williams, the surprise commitment of the summer, will be on the Wildcat bench this year:

First, there is almost NO chance that Donald Williams will redshirt.  He was brought in to add immediate depth at the shooting guard position and he will be called upon to do just that.

This makes supreme sense to me.  I cannot imagine him coming to UK with the holes we currently have in the backcourt and redshirting unless he is a severe academic risk.  I don't get that impression, so what Marc is telling us jibes with my perception of reality.  But after that, things get just a little ... uh ... weird, I guess:

The most amazing part of this story is that Williams has already agreed that this will be a one year deal.  Yes, that's right.  He is on scholarship for 2008, but will NOT be on scholarship in any subsequent years.  Donald Williams passed up four year offers from Marquette and St. Johns for a one year deal to the University of Kentucky!  

This does not mean that Williams will be transferring after one year.  His intentions are to make as big an impact in 2008 as possible and remains as a key member of this squad as a non scholarship player.

This does not make sense to me.  That doesn't mean it isn't true, it just doesn't make sense to come to Kentucky for one year on a full ride, then surrender it.  Maggard tells us that Williams was not considering walking on to any school, and there is certainly no reason why he should have with scholarship offers from Marquette and St. Johns.  So now we are being told that he is accepting a scholarship at UK for one year only, and then will do what he refused to do this year "...due to talent"?

While this may be true as written, it is supremely illogical and makes no sense whatever to me.  Kentucky is a great school with a great tradition, but why would anyone turn down an offer from two schools with solid traditions of their own to get a one-year ride to UK?  I'd love to believe it was because Kentucky is such a legendary program, but if so, this is an extraordinary departure from what we have seen from the likes of DeMarcus Cousins, O.J. Mayo and Michael Beasley.

I have seen arguments put forward like "He thinks Gillispie can get him to the NBA" and "He is making a sacrifice to play for UK."  Any or all of them may be right, but I am highly skeptical.  It just doesn't square with what young players are and have been doing.  That doesn't mean it isn't true, but if it is, it is one of the most extraordinary things I have ever heard of, and I desperately hope we one day get the young man's reasoning for this approach.  It could be either an inspiration or something of an embarrassment, but either way, I present this for your review and comment.  I am confident that Maggard is not making this up, and that he was actually told this by someone.  But it is a strange tale, to be sure.

 

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While we are on the subject of Dondald Williams, Jerry Meyers of Rivals has this article which suggests he could have been ranked as high as a 4-star if Rivals had seen him prior to establishing rankings.

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I'll believe it when I see it

Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."

by chirop1 on Sep 2, 2008 1:30 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

What about need-based financial aid?

What if the plan is for him to take the ride this year, when we have an open scholarship, then walk-on next year and let Pell Grants, etc. pay his way, a la Marquis Estill a few years ago? (At least, that was my understanding of what happened with Estill.) Next year, he gives up the scholarship so we can get an impact player (Orton) who gets the team more exposure. So dude comes in, fills a need, establishes himself in the rotation, “walks on” with need-based financial aid for the final three years, and Gillispie puts him in the Association. At least, I hope that could work. Then again, I may be talking out of the wrong end of my alimentary canal!

by Acdixon on Sep 2, 2008 1:45 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah ...

… I suppose that could be. Or an academic scholarship, I don’t know. It is certainly a possibility.

Seems like a big gamble, though. But maybe not.

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by Truzenzuzex on Sep 2, 2008 1:54 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

BTW, Tru

You’ve got the football icon on this post. I know everyone’s excited about the heinous butt-kicking we put on the Cards this weekend, but this is basketball news. (And some of us love basketball news even during football season!)

by Acdixon on Sep 2, 2008 1:54 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oops ...

… subcranial flatus. :-)

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by Truzenzuzex on Sep 2, 2008 1:55 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

man, that does seem odd

If this happens the way it’s being reported, I really hope everything works out for Donald. It’s pretty risky going to a school to play basketball with only 1 year guaranteed to be paid for. I’m happy he’s coming to UK, but it seems to me like there are a lot of ways this could end badly no matter what the understanding is between coach and player. Forget about “tradition” or “sacrifice” or whatever – if you’ve got the chance to go to a major conference basketball program for 4 years and not have to pay for it, you’ve got to take it over just 1 year.

Even if it turns out that DW will get some combination of Pell grants/academic scholarship/financial aid for subsequent years as Acdixon supposes above, there is still a chance it won’t cover everything a basketball scholarship would. There’s also something to be said about the peace of mind that comes from knowing all your school related costs are going to be taken care of in a single package over trying to cobble together aid from various and sundry sources.

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by JLeverenz on Sep 2, 2008 2:07 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It's certainly a strange situation...

…and one that I don’t think I’ve ever heard of elsewhere. Then again, I’ve only been following basketball recruiting for a little over a year.

There’s also a good chance that there are other players on the team who may be able to go on academic scholarship if need be next season. Perhaps it’s a “cross that bridge when we get there” type situation?

I tend to believe that if DW performs as well as many believe he will, then Gillispie will definitely find a way to keep him on scholarship and with UK for the rest of his collegiate career. But that is some extra pressure on top of the already pressure-filled world of a Kentucky basketball player. I hope he can handle it.

by BBallSophist on Sep 2, 2008 2:43 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I hope also.

But we have seen situations similar, if not exactly, like this before, and they usually work out. I am sure there is more to the story that we don’t know.

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by Truzenzuzex on Sep 2, 2008 3:37 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

wierd

Maybe this kid is thinking he’s one and done.
I know its kind of crazy but you never can tell what one of these players are thinking.
On a seperate note. Inovating recruiting from billy G offering a one year scholarahip.
At least he is up front with the players regarding the situation.

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by davw83 on Sep 2, 2008 3:29 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Agreed

It seems odd, but as long as he’s up front with the kid about what he’s offering, then I certainly have no problem with it.

Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."

by chirop1 on Sep 2, 2008 3:50 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

All Scholarships Are 1 Year Only (But Renewable)

If you check how Gillispie manged his rosters at UTEP or TAMU, you’ll not see this as unusual at all.

Academic scholarship would require 2 years and 3.3 GPA whereas Williams barely qualified this summer. Simply not going to happen.

One recent example of a similar situation was a JuCo PG (Tim Crowell) offered by UC for 2007 season only and transfer (or walk on status) for 2008 season. He transferred.

by FortyYearCatFan on Sep 2, 2008 4:53 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Derek Anderson

Transferred to UK in 1994 with scholarship promised for 1995 (redshirt year) but not for 1996. As it turned out, Padgett flunking out opened a scholarship for Anderson in 1996.

by FortyYearCatFan on Sep 2, 2008 4:55 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Academic Scholarship Option

As I read the NCAA regulations once a person (in this case Donald Williams) is even recruited as a scholarship player he/she is no longer eligible for an academic scholarship without being counted against the program’s athletic scholarship limits. Thus accepting an athletic scholarship as Williams has evidently done eliminates the academic option even if he, as unlikely as it seems, qualifies. My guess is that Coach has adopted the “crossing the bridge when he gets to it” philosophy in the anticipation of changes to the roster in 2009, i.e. departures, recruit overs, changes in minds, etc. Put another way: The future is now!

by Wild Weasel on Sep 2, 2008 5:27 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Great input from you Wild and FortyYear...

I just have to trust our Coach in that he knows what he is doing with this late recruit.

I would have never thought this situation would occur but if Williams is as good as others say, he seems to be a great pickup.

by kykat51 on Sep 2, 2008 6:02 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No Longer Accurate

NCAA rules changed in 2007.

An athletic scholarship player with 3.3 GPA over 2 years can now get academic scholarship (if otherwise qualified) and not count against 13 limit of athletic scholarships in Men’s basketball.

by FortyYearCatFan on Sep 2, 2008 8:07 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

TRUTH? DW was NOT offered by Marquette

Tru,

According to Victoria Sun (writing for the “new” Kentucky Ink), Williams was NOT offered a scholarship by Marquette. It is likely that he was not offered by anyone, which would make his UK decision easier to understand.
In any case, it is obvious that BCG is a “cross that bridge when we come to it” kinda coach.
If DW becomes a major contributor, Coach G will find a way to keep him.

by ukfastcat on Sep 2, 2008 5:54 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

OK.

Rivals also indicates he was offered by Marquette. I don’t really know who to believe on that.

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by Truzenzuzex on Sep 2, 2008 7:49 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Offer by Marquette...

At the time UK got on Williams in July, Marquette had no open schollies, but then a player left and Marquette got back to Williams, but Williams had already committed to UK silently. This is just from what I have read.

UK was just waiting and Williams too until he got eligible.

Kudos to Coach and Williams and others for keeping this away from the media,

by kykat51 on Sep 2, 2008 8:07 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Marquette

I read he got 4-for-5 (type) offer. 4 years of scholarship, 1 walk-on year (with 1 of those 5 as redshirt year).

by FortyYearCatFan on Sep 2, 2008 8:08 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Williams' AAU coach ...

… said that he was “all set to walk-on at Marquette.” Of course that could be incorrect.

If the kid passed up full-ride offers from other major players in college basketball in order to accept a one-year ride at UK, I have to question the wisdom of his advisers. Of course, it’s always possible that money is not an issue. If it is true that he was “all set to walk-on at Marquette” his family must have been prepared to pay his way, and Marquette is quite expensive. Paying for his last few years at UK may not be a financial hardship.

I doubt he could get an academic scholarship; Bob Gibbons said that he had " academic questions" which most thought were going to lead him to a “Christian-based prep school” for the ‘08-’09 season.

If he passed up other offers because of his belief in Gillispie as a coach, then I say we have an extraordinarily singular young man on our hands, because we all know that type of thinking is not the norm.

Whatever the case, I just hope he performs well, Lord knows we need another shooter.

by Ken Howlett on Sep 2, 2008 11:43 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Another school perhaps?

If DW delivers,BG will take care of it.If he is does not quite pan out,but is still a decent player,another school could offer him a full ride.Just trying to look at if from a different angle.

by -Zoso- on Sep 2, 2008 6:12 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Coach shifts the pardigm one more time-Partial Scholarships

From UK’s point of view, I smell at least one “one-and-done” coming on board next year. In order for that to happen, somebody is going to have to give up their scholarship or transfer. One player will graduate this year and we already have two committed. That puts us at our maximum, and we still have a decision to make about a trasferr who is already here. this year. This leaves no room for Wall or Orton who might come for one year only. Coach is also recruiting several others from 09.I look at us either losing a player to the NBA at the end of this year, another transfer, one of our next year seniors going on an academic scholarship or a player volunarily giving up his scholarship to become a walk-on in order to fit everyone on the team. It looks like now we are giving partial one or two year scholarships in the attempt of gaining enough talent to win the NCAA. What do you think?

by Blueobsessed on Sep 2, 2008 7:34 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Alterior motives

Perhaps Williams has his own perfectly logical motives for his actions. Perhaps he knows that it is unlikely he will play in the NBA. But, perhaps he is aware that playing for BG will teach him a lot about basketball. That knowledge and the experience he would get even as a non-scholarship player could be worth much more than a free education at some other school. Maybe he is thinking about a future as a coach. Or more likely he is thinking about a future overseas. He could think that playing for BG without a scholarship is more likely to allow him to achieve his goals than playing for another lesser coach. It sounds crazy that a young person might be so far seeing, but you never know who is talking in these kids ears. Or BG could have suggested the very same things himself.

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by Mr. Bob Dobalina on Sep 2, 2008 7:45 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Could be.

Who knows. It just doesn’t seem logical to me if he had other offers in hand. It’s far from a demonstrable fact that Gillispie can teach more basketball than the coaches of any of the other schools who have supposedly offered him.

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by Truzenzuzex on Sep 2, 2008 7:51 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

But...

Perception is reality. It’s not clear that Williams could learn more from Gillespie than another coach. But, Williams could perceive this to be the case. That’s all that really matters at the point of signing.

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by Mr. Bob Dobalina on Sep 3, 2008 1:10 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

True.

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by Truzenzuzex on Sep 3, 2008 6:02 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ahhh, Mr. Bob...

Not a bad assessment at all concerning this late recruit Mr. Williams.

I think we all know that overseas players make tons of money…better than the NBA at this time.

by kykat51 on Sep 2, 2008 7:55 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Overseas players

do not make better money than the NBA at this time.

A few midlevel and players and some NBA scrubs can make more overseas being a star on a overseas team rather than a bench player on an NBA squad. The dollars value against the Euro is a little low right now but it’s already going back up as it made gains last quarter. It’s only temporary.

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by davw83 on Sep 3, 2008 9:10 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That's what I was referring to...

The value of the Euro against the American Dollar.

I follow the stock market also so I know. And true it could change at anytime, but right now the Euro scene is where many potentially NBA players are going for at least a year or two.

by kykat51 on Sep 3, 2008 5:30 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

not many

only one who is actually american and one high school player.

The other handful of 6-7 players who have left are all foreign born and marginal NBA players.

This is not a trend.

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by davw83 on Sep 3, 2008 6:27 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Turnover

I look for at least two players to transfer after this season. We so many tall, athletic, wing-type players PT is going to be scarce.

Also, I know we don’t want to think about it, but there is a good chance Patterson will leave for the league after this season. If JJ Hickson can go #19 after one season, think what PPat can do with 2 full seasons under Coach Clyde. If the kid is going to be a lottery pick ( and he should be) he would be crazy not to go.

So that’s one graduating, two transfers, and an NBA bound player. Thats 4 free scholarships. Total guess on my part, but anything can happen in a year.

Still not a crook!

by TrickyD26 on Sep 2, 2008 9:50 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yes, There Will Be Transfer(s)

UK has always had turnover (since the Rupp days). Back then, it occurred between frosh team and varsity play.

Gillispie’s teams at UTEP and TAMU had turnover, losing 1 or 2 players (yearly) to transfer.

by FortyYearCatFan on Sep 3, 2008 6:46 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

TrickyD26 has got it

I agree with the possible scenarios, that you see happening at the end of the year. It seems that the idea of comitting to UK and taking a soft two year ride before becoming an impact player is what Coach wants to avoid. Coach likes strong, quick, lean athletes who realize that they have to bust their butt in practice to get playing time. AND that the FUTURE IS NOW. Sieze the Day, even if it is for only one year.

Finally, I don’t believe that any high school player should come to KY unless they believe they can play at the next level. This is a harsh statement, but you need to have proven yourself before accepting a scholarship. The high competiion level of the SEC and NCAA tournament make granted scholarships to so-called “project” unfair to both the student/athlete and the school. Players must recognize their strengths and be willing to work on their weaknesses. Just look at the Florida NCAA two year Chamionship team. How many are playing in the NBA? How many members of that team are dominating in the NBA?

College chamionship teams are made up mainly of “tweeners” (four star and below) players who must learn to play multiple positions. Case in point, at 6’8", what position will Patterson occupy at the professional level? At his current size I believe small forward. That means before he leaves KY, he has to show the pros an impressive perimeter game. What position will Jodie Meeks play in the NBA. I think he will be too small to play against a Kevin Durant at shooting guard, thus his only hope is at the point. Ramal never got a real chance to run a team until Coach G. You can go through our entire roster and try to predict where these kids will turn oput, but with Coach you will know that they will have been trained in the fundamentals of basketball and in multiple positions.

Long story-short welcome aboard Donald Williams!!! Alex Legion’s loss is your and our gain!

by Blueobsessed on Sep 2, 2008 11:03 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Florida's Team

You mention those Florida guys going to the NBA… but they were certainly not a highly regarded class when they first matriculated there.

Additionally, Meeks will have a tough time making it to the NBA due to his size and skill set… but I’m reminded of our loss to UMass in the 95-96 season when Pitino was trying to play Delk at the point to help his draft status. Delk ended up with a productive pro career anyways.

Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."

by chirop1 on Sep 3, 2008 8:06 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Jodie and PAt

Pat will be a power forward at the next level. He is a little short but he isnt too short. There are a laundry list of power forwards his size in the league.

Jodie will also play shooting guard. At 6-4 to 6-5 he is on the shorter side but still plenty big enough to play the two. KD is one player and most two guards in the NBA are around 6-5 to 6-6. KD will probably make the move to the small forward this season as the sonics have brought aboard some new guards that should be able to allow KD to slide over while Jeff Green backs him up or moves to the 4 spot.

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by davw83 on Sep 3, 2008 9:15 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ramel Bradley

Played behind Rajon Rondo as frosh and soph – no shame in that.

He played a mixture of SG and PG as a junior, then more PG than SG as a senior.

by FortyYearCatFan on Sep 3, 2008 6:48 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Developing Point/Lead Guards

The college game is so tricky when it comes to developing players for the next level. You have the immediate needs to develop and position your talent so that you can win the conference and NCAA title and also the need to develop your players so that they are ready for the pros. Nowhere is this more difficult than in developing the point/lead guard position.

Assuming that an 18 year old can lead a team of college or professional players is a big stretch. Not withstanding the Derrick Roses and Brandon Jennings of the world, to be sucessful, this position requires much more practice in the art of decision making than most kids graduating from high school possess. This position cannot be just about passing and making assists or the defenses will simply sink back into the center and make it impossible for the rest of the team to score. To be a great point/lead guard, you must score without being a “gunner”. You must be able to make the opposition pay if they foul you. For most kids it takes time to develop these skills and that is why European ball has developed into a paid minor league system and college has evolved into an “unpaid/educational” minor league experience. The bottom line is that Ramal needed more time to become what he will become a point guard. Whether you blame his lack of being prepared on playing behind Rondo or anything else the huge number of turnovers last year illustrate my point. Notice in no way am I suggesting that Ramal lacks the drive to do this.

That said, when you get a five star one-and-done player in this position, how do you plan your future after they leave. Rondo is a perfect example. I think Coach G. has it right. Multiple players in multiple positions give everyone experience. Obviously you have to eventually go with your best as your starters, but we have to realize not everone will make the pros. Due to physical limitations, most of our 6’4" and shorter players will have to be point/lead guards at the next level.

In the final analysis, these “tweeners” need to use all four years of college to help them develop their skill set. If the NBA doesn’t work out for them, at least they have a college education.to help them for the future.

by Blueobsessed on Sep 3, 2008 8:15 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

good point

Point guard is absolutley the toughest position to learn in the NBA. For most players it takes several years and I mean more than three to become proficient at the positions.

Deron Williams and Chris Paul aside look at Chauncey billups and Steve Nash as just two examples of players who blossomed after several years in the league. NBA PG’s are much like NFL QB’s. You dont see very many of them come in right after college and have a huge impact. Even these one and done’s will take at least 2-3yrs IMO to have a large impact on their team. Derrick Rose may be a servicable point at this time but I say he doesnt have much of an impact on the game against good teams until at least 2 to 3 years from now.

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by davw83 on Sep 3, 2008 9:20 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Crunch time for scholarships is next year

Am I correct or does it look like we will have more scholarships available after this junior class graduates? Depending on performance and other issues, DW might get additional scholarship years after next year.

by Blueobsessed on Sep 3, 2008 4:49 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

13 Scholarships On 2009 Roster

1 Sr – 6 Jrs – 3 Soph – 3 Frosh.

2 recruits so already 1 over.

by FortyYearCatFan on Sep 3, 2008 7:26 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

OOPS! who is the sixth junior?

Having trouble due to my age. Who is the sixth junior?
1. Meeks
2. Porter
3. Stevenson
4. Harris
5. Galloway
6. ?

by Blueobsessed on Sep 3, 2008 9:47 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Blueobsessed

There are only 5 juniors, on scholarship, at this time.

by Ken Howlett on Sep 3, 2008 11:06 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Pilgrim

Junior but soph in eligibility.

by FortyYearCatFan on Sep 4, 2008 12:30 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

A scholarship for either Orton or Pilgrim?

Since Pilgrim is a transfer, he is using this year to learn the system, with an expectation of getting a scholarship next year, but with no guarrantees from UK. Am I right.?

If this is correct then Pilgrim would have two years of eligibility left. either at UK or any other school or he could walk on for a year at UK until the logjam of scholarships thins out when this year’s juniors graduate. Soo… here is another scenario where Coach has an option to have a scholarship available for Orton. With the other possibiliities, voluntary walk-ons, transfers, etc. we could have even more scholarships available. I’m sure that clever coach of ours has considered all the possible permutations. Either way, it looks like Coach has a plan that includes certain players and that he is in fact increasing the overall talent level of the team. Look out SEC!

by Blueobsessed on Sep 4, 2008 7:35 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No Scholarship Is Guaranteed

All are 1 year, renewable at discretion of UK.

Pilgrim likely EXPECTS one but none is guaranteed.

by FortyYearCatFan on Sep 4, 2008 7:29 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Spring 2001

Prince and Bogans declared for NBA draft so UK signed Adam Chiles that spring (2001).

Both returned to UK. Chiles’ LOI guaranteed his 1st year on scholarship, renewable after that.

UK had 14 players and 13 scholarships for 2002 roster. Marquis Estill went off scholarship and on grant-in-aid $ (based on financial need) that school year.

by FortyYearCatFan on Sep 4, 2008 7:31 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

FortyYearCatFan Helps

Thanks for clearing this up. The possibilities of scholarship and nonscholarship combinations for next year are almost unlimited. I’m a forty-two year fan and am in awe of your knowledge base. When it comes UK basketball, your the fan.
What a year this will be for the Cats! With the flexibility of manipulating scholarships, more talent will be arriving. Success will breed success. Can’t wait to see who signs next.

by Blueobsessed on Sep 5, 2008 6:58 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

FortyYear...

Is an encyclopedia with anything regarding UK Basketball. Ask and you shall receive.

He is well respected on this blog, at least by me and I am sure many other readers.

Enjoy his insight and knowledge of UK Basketball for many years, as per his words " I don’t consider myself old", from one of his earlier posts. Gotta love the guy!

by kykat51 on Sep 5, 2008 6:31 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ahhhh... Adam Chiles

What a winner that kid was!

Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."

by chirop1 on Sep 5, 2008 4:58 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The last thoughts of Adam Chiles as a college basketball player:

“I think I’ll drive to Murray from Louisville, but first I’m gonna get some weed, and a ‘Forty’ for the trip.”

by Ken Howlett on Sep 5, 2008 11:20 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Making the trip from Murray to Lex today

I’ll be watching out for you. Ken I’m right behind you! WAY!!!! Bheind you!

by Blueobsessed on Sep 6, 2008 6:54 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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