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Rivals introduces a made-up controversy into Kentucky's Midnight Madness

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Why?  Why does every Kentucky innovation have to be blown up by some in the sports media into a controversial thing?  We can chalk it up to the tabloid sort of stuff that we see so often on political shows, or possibly bias (many will be tempted to do just that) against UK, or just plain stupidity.  Personally, I find myself firmly in the category of the latter.

Rivals.com's Andrew Skwara and Bob McClellan have published this "pro and con" on their website concerning the decision by Kentucky to use the NCAA rules to move Midnight Madness to an earlier date than normal this year.  Many are calling it a "loophole," but in a real sense, it isn't -- Midnight Madness itself is little more than a contrived public relations stunt in the sense that it has no meaningful effect whatsoever on the readiness of a basketball team to play the game.  Using the fact that two hours/week are available for practice beginning September 15th to move this media event around to an earlier date is transparently irrelevant to anything -- no one in his or her right mind would argue that performing that two hours at midnight in front of a large crowd with cameras all around would constitute an effective practice.  In fact, a rational argument can be made that from a preparedness standpoint, it is a total waste of that two hours.

But despite this non-controversy, Skwara and McClellan have decided that we need to make a this into a full-fledged conundrum.  Quoth Skwara:

Kentucky is obviously taking advantage of a loophole in the rules here, but it makes sense for more schools to do the same.

Kentucky fans should probably read this as, "Kentucky is evil, but we knew that.  The thing is, anyone who wants can do this."  What the heck else does, "taking advantage of a loophole," mean?  Midnight Madness itself is a loophole by that definition.

But the guy who completely flunks the logic test is McClellan.  It was probably just his turn to take the dumb position, so don't go off deciding this guy hates UK because he is a closet Duke fan or something.  He may be a UK-hater, I don't know, but if so, let's have a compelling argument why and not a bunch of ad hominem.  OK, so here is McClellan's "reasoning:"

But these events really are elitist. In the midst of football season, how many of the 341 schools that play basketball really are capable of holding a legit Midnight Madness in which the fan base is truly interested? Maybe 10?

Did you get that?  We are hurting the football schools, poor dears, because they don't have enough fan interest to put on an early March Madness. It just ain't fair, and Bob's not going to take it anymore.

I know this is going to come as a shock to McClellan, but fans at 90% of the SEC schools won't show up for a midnight basketball practice in significant numbers no matter when they hold it!  And did you know that Kentucky's fans actually care about football season, too, as evidenced by the nearly 70,000 screaming Blue and White fans in attendance at Commonwealth Stadium against the doughty warriors of I-AA Norfolk State?  "Affirmative action" for college sports teams, Bob, is that what you are advocating?  Let's don't and say we did.

Then, there is this brilliant piece of cogitation:

I can only praise Kentucky for a great idea. They get the stage to themselves, and it's a nice recruiting tool, too. Should others follow suit? No. Should the Wildcats or anyone else be allowed to continue the practice? No.

It's a lot of pomp for a minor circumstance. The NCAA should word the open of practice thusly: No school shall hold an open-to-the-public team workout before 6 p.m. of the Friday closest to Oct. 15. On that day you may do whatever you like and throw open the doors.

As I Wildcat fan, I can read between the lines here as well:  "Those scumbag cheaters at Kentucky are clever, I tell you, but the NCAA should step in and slap down their malefic hind parts right now."

Well, I just got back from 6 hours of sleep in the last 48 and a rather painful business trip up to the land of Maize 'n Brew Dave, but I feel sure I'm not so jaded by sleep deprivation that I can miss the scorn in McClellans paean to NCAA regulation.  Everything Kentucky does that is different is unfair because it is a recruiting advantage.  Well, duh!  Isn't that the goal here?  Every school in the nation wants a recruiting advantage within the rules, and if someone else, say, Billy Donovan, had thought of this first, I'll bet we would have seen Dick Vitale columns hailing his brilliance, and McClellan taking a, "Here's one in Billy G's eye," position.  Maybe Skwara would have tut-tutted Donovan, but I rather doubt it.

Weak.  Pathetic.  Whiny.  Unfair.  Bugger off, Bob.  You too, Andrew.

Hat tip:  College Fast Break.

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Meh

Par for the course.

Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."

by chirop1 on Sep 17, 2008 10:21 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

It is par

for the course, but nice call-out, Tru. McClellan and Skwara must be very very bored to spend time writing that piece.

by blbskue on Sep 17, 2008 10:54 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

eh, whatever

To be honest, I expected something like this a lot earlier – and from a source more distinguished than Rivals. I mean really, Rivals might do a good job following recruiting, but who puts any stock in their opinions on college basketball at large?

Good job picking them apart Tru. Too bad they’ll be unwilling or incapable to see the flaws in their arguments.

Will there ever be a boy born who can swim faster than a shark?

by JLeverenz on Sep 17, 2008 11:27 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

In my opinion...

…they don’t even do a good, much less great, job of following recruiting.

I suppose someone, ala ESPN-style faux arguing, had to take the unenviable position of “con” in this filler peice. Hopefully they’ll get the number of hits that they are looking for. Nice job making them look foolish, Tru.

by BBallSophist on Sep 17, 2008 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

In the end...

It really seemed like the instigating factor boiled down to the fact that we could get 70k in a stadium for football and then get 20k of them to stumble downtown to watch some round ball of any kind as long as it is UK on the same day, weekend, week or even month. When events are on the same day the article should be about the police letting those drunk football fans drive down to Rupp.

Heck, they might hate that there is a school with legit facilities to house up to 70k football AND 24k basketball and we aren’t borrowing a pro facility to do it on either end.

Rules are rules. This is in the rules.

We did not invent midnight madness. Forty, help me out who did? Anyway, we made it grand and others followed. As it has lost favor in many places, as opposed to cooling off we kicked it up a notch and now we own it again.

It is just like politics, if one candidate says it is a good idea to breathe, the other will first say he is wrong and then spend a day crafting a way to say they thought of it first.

I will say it yet again (not to toot my horn but because I am so happy by it) PEOPLE ARE TALKING ABOUT UK ALL THE TIME. Kids can’t get away from the word “Kentucky” and we had been missing that a bit.

Changing how you think will change what you think.

by wilson452 on Sep 17, 2008 3:39 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

No such thing ...

… as bad exposure. Right?

A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan

by Truzenzuzex on Sep 17, 2008 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

This is a very good thing...

Try moving Midnight Madness at schools like Ohio State, Florida, Tennessee and see how many fans show up. UK is the only school besides maybe the Durham/Chapel Hill crowd that could hold Midnight Madness any time any where and the fans would still fill the place up.

UK has the greatest fans in the world!

by GoCats on Sep 17, 2008 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Exactly.

This story does nothing but help UK Athletics, not just basketball. I hope ESPN picks up this Rivals story and does its own piece. Let’s try and get the sports world to focus in on UK basketball and football. Let the country see a packed 70,000 seat football stadium in the day and then a packed Rupp Arena that night. Do you think would hurt or help our programs? I think this decision will help our football team (who is already recruiting at an unreal level for ’09) as much as the basketball program.

Still not a crook!

by TrickyD26 on Sep 17, 2008 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks Rivals for the free advertising :)

The way I see it is
1. Text messages
2. Midnite Madness(week early,never been done)

BG is AHEAD OF THE CURVE.Our Coach is highly competitive and looking for anything to gain an edge.Yes,I am with wilson452,any press is good press.

by -Zoso- on Sep 17, 2008 4:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I wonder....

how much Midnight Madness at any school really helps recruiting for any school. Seems to me it is more a chance for the fans to celebrate the team and get excited.

by SevenRings on Sep 17, 2008 5:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The success of Big Blue Madness...

Formerly Midnight Madness is unprecedented at UK, as it started out in Memorial Colliseum by Joe B. Hall and moved to Rupp when former was undergoing renovation. But due to the fan support at Rupp they have kept it there.

Yes I will agree with your statement that it is a chance for our fans to celebrate the team and get excited, but I also think that when recruits see our tremendous fan support and the atmosphere at Rupp during this event, it is bound to have an effect on their college choice. Don’t you?

by kykat51 on Sep 17, 2008 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Madness

Madness at UK really gives recruits who come a chance to see a fan base that is unparalleled in its support for basketball and its players.

I go to madness every year without fail even though the only real exciting part for me is seeing the players scrimmage for twenty minutes BUT the environment is crazy and when high profile recruits are there they are definitley shown the love by UK fans.

DEEETROIT BASKETBALLL!!!

by davw83 on Sep 17, 2008 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

with our fans

chanting the recruits names while they’re visiting, they’ve got to love the fact that we know who they are already.

GO BIG BLUE!! GO BIG BLUE!!

by UKWildCatFanatic on Sep 17, 2008 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed

I probably worded it lazily. It certainly gets the point across to recruits what it means to play at UK.

by SevenRings on Sep 17, 2008 6:16 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

And re your original comment...

It may not be a huge event at other schools…but it definitely is for UK with our fan base.

by kykat51 on Sep 17, 2008 6:31 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Tru this is off subject...

But concerning your news feed about Tubby watching Harrison Barnes. Our tireless Coach G was also there the same night and they talked amongst themselves.

Gillispie is out there when you least expect.

by kykat51 on Sep 17, 2008 7:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Tubby And Gillispie

Were talking together most of the time during the Barnes workout.

by FortyYearCatFan on Sep 17, 2008 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm No Fan Of Rivals

October 10th is perfectly legal for first practice per NCAA rules.

by FortyYearCatFan on Sep 17, 2008 7:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

You could tell Parrish

didn’t want to sound like a UK homer by the way he stated numerous times that HE thought it a waste of practice time, unlike what Ben Howland, etc would be doing with THEIR alloted time. In essence he made a great point about the situation. Deal with it. UK fans could fill Ford Field to watch a UK practice then turn right around and do it again for a UK football game…SAME DAY! We rock! The Big Blue wave will crush any other team’s fans like a deadly storm surge from a category 5 hurricane. Easy.

by bluecrip on Sep 18, 2008 5:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Question

Does anyone know when Big Blue Madness tickets become available???

by kentuckygirl0724 on Sep 21, 2008 6:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Sept 27

Next Saturday at 7am at Memorial or limited availability on Ticket Master

Ticket master does not sell lowers and there is like a 2 buck processing fee.

The tickets are free.

If you dont get any then you will be able to buy some on EBAY shortly after.

DEEETROIT BASKETBALLL!!!

by davw83 on Sep 22, 2008 9:22 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Thanks!

Are the limited tickets on Ticketmaster available at 7AM on that day as well?

by kentuckygirl0724 on Sep 22, 2008 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes

They are indeed.

DEEETROIT BASKETBALLL!!!

by davw83 on Sep 22, 2008 3:03 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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