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Patterson leaving early...not so fast

I've been reading and hearing from a lot of places about how Patterson is going to leave early for the league. It hasn't been discussion or the possibility of such an event, just he's gone after this year, plain and simple. I disagree. Both his father and mother believe strongly in an edcuation and stated before he came here for his freshman year that he would be staying all 4 years. His parents have surely passed this mentality onto their son i would think and in addtion to that, the desicion to go pro is not one made over night. It is a triangle of discussion, that is, the player, the coach and the parents will all take part in the choice. The way i see it, 2/3 of that equation will be telling him to stay.

Now i know patterson is a big boy and a legal adult so he makes choices for himself, but the way his family spoke, I would think patterson leaving early is not a lock as it is being presented. I'm not saying it won't happen by any means, i just don't agree with the way everyone is talking about it. Your fella's thoughts? disagreements are appreciated.

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I have stated this in another thread ...

… but I will do it again here.

If Patterson is projected by trusted people around the Association as a lottery pick, he should declare for the draft. Reasoning: He is getting a guaranteed NBA contract worth many millions of dollars.

If Patterson is projected outside the lottery but inside the first round, his decision process should favor entry into the draft. Reasoning: It is probably better to go ahead and enter, but it is also a defensible and reasonable position to play another year in college with the idea of trying to raise your stock to a higher level. You have to balance the positives against the downside risk of injury or poor play.

If Patterson is projected outside the first round, he should not consider an early entry. Reasoning: No guaranteed contract, and he has an opportunity to raise his standing by playing another year or even two. There is downside risk of injury, but it is probably worth the tradeoff of raising your stock into a guaranteed contract.

I would bet a large sum of money that this will be substantially the same advice Coach Gillispie gives to the Patterson family after this year.

Concerning education — I understand the commitment of mothers and fathers to education. It is laudable, honorable and in most cases, very wise. In most cases. Patrick Patterson is an exception to that, and here is why:

Patrick Patterson is going to be a professional basketball player. There is no doubt that is what he desires, and it is an ability few are given. He isn’t going to be a doctor, or a lawyer, or any other of the professions with high earning potential that require a college degree. While a commitment to education is great, why do we want our kids to go to college? Clearly, it is not so that they can pursue a career as an auto wash attendant — we want our kids to get an education 1) so that they can make a good living and 2) so they can pursue what they love.

Education is not an end in itself, and never has been except for a few elite people who have nothing better to do than collect degrees. Education is a means to an end — either a life’s pursuit, financial and family stability, etc. Patrick Patterson’s life’s pursuit, at least in the early part of it, is going to be be professional basketball, a profoundly lucrative profession. Success in that profession does not require a college degree, but it often does require the good judgment to “strike while the iron is hot.” Even better, you can still play in the NBA and get your college degree — it happens all the time.

Some will argue that “you can’t get your life as a kid back,” but now ask Josh McRoberts if he thinks he made the right decision playing an extra year, and playing himself out of the first round and straight into the D-League. He’s out of that now, or was, but his career is off to a dubious start, and all because he failed to take advantage of an opportunity. He has neither a college degree nor a viable professional basketball career at the moment, as far as I can tell.

It is unfortunate that kids often have to leave school early in order to take proper advantage of an opportunity, but that is a pretty small downside to the benefits of being a first rounder in the NBA. If Patterson finds life in the league too stressful, he can quit anytime, take his millions, finish his education and become whatever he wants. If he passes on the opportunity and loses it, like McRoberts, how will his parents feel then?

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by Glenn Logan on Sep 13, 2008 8:43 AM EDT reply actions  

Does PP need to improve or is he already there?

Just some questions:
Are PP’s freshman stats close to Morris’ Junior stats? Certainly didn’t get Morris into a lottery pick, although I think he thought he would be one. Someone told him wrong.

Does PP need to show a perimeter game, FTs and ball handling skills to be a lottery pick?

Are there any other talented PFs that could come out each of the next two years that might be ahead of PP. Remember we are considering Europe, South America, the Middle East and Asia.

To me declaring and not getting to be a lottery pick jeopardizes your future just as much as planning another year and risking getting hurt. No matter what agents or anyoone else says it is still a crap shoot and a very dangerous one at that.

by Blueobsessed on Sep 15, 2008 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I Met His Parents In Columbia SC Last Winter

They told me (first hand) that PP would stay at UK and get his degree. Very important to them.

by FortyYearCatFan on Sep 13, 2008 9:38 AM EDT reply actions  

I believe you.

But I don’t believe them.

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by Glenn Logan on Sep 13, 2008 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

I will not ...

… be betting my life savings on that. Gillispie will probably strongly recommend to Patterson and his family that he take the money, making every one of the points I made above. It’s hard to see them rejecting that argument. The biggest reason they can make the claim they are is because they haven’t been forced to look at the reality of the alternative.

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by Glenn Logan on Sep 13, 2008 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Recovery From Injury

NBA teams will want to see how PP recovers from his injury. Lottery picks are valuable and not often spent on players with ? mark.

I think PP will play AT LEAST his Jr year at UK. We’ll C…

by FortyYearCatFan on Sep 13, 2008 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

Recovery

Im pretty sure that Patt will demonstrate said recovery this season. If he does I do not believe NBA coaching staffs will recquire a second injury free year to feel comfortable taking him in the lottery.

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by davw83 on Sep 13, 2008 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Beyond Rational Comprehension

If Patterson is a largely considered to be a lottery pick by the end of the season, no reasonable person should encourage him to stay at UK. Patterson, by nearly all accounts, is a young man of impeccable character. It would take an act of utmost avarice to forgo an NBA career and place your family in guaranteed financial solvency, an that act seems wholly inconsistent with his reported reputation.

Two months (!). Two weeks. Two pencils.

by Thomas Hunt Morgan on Sep 13, 2008 9:54 AM EDT reply actions  

on top of that...

he already knows what a season ending injury feels like… I doubt he’ll be too anxious to find out what a career ending one feels like, unless he has 7 or 8 million dollars of guarunteed money in his bank account.

By the way, I have briefly skimmed over all of these posts and the Nazi reference was semi-interesting once, but it kept popping up and it just seems a bit out of context. After all, it’s (proper usage) just sports we are talking about here, not genocide, Kristelnacht and Bier Hall Putsches. Actually, about the only thing UK and Nazi Germany have in common is the name Adolf. We are winners, they lost. I mean no disrespect, just that the National Socialist movement seems (at least to me) a bit too serious of subject matter for this blog!

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by sleepytimetea on Sep 16, 2008 1:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Education and the NBA

Leaving college early for the NBA does not necessarily run counter to getting an education. Lots of pros who left early work on their degree during the off-season and graduate at some point during their pro career. Vince Carter is one recent notable example off the top of my head. Patterson could also finish his degree after his pro career is over. There is no age limit for a degree, but there is a de facto age limit to a pro career, both for starting one and ending one.

That said, it’s certainly possible that Patterson enjoys college so much that he would like to max out his college experience before starting his pro career. I wouldn’t dismiss that possibility out of hand, even if it is unlikely.

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by JLeverenz on Sep 13, 2008 10:24 PM EDT reply actions  

Michael Jordan Is Another Example

Left UNC after junior year but got his degree a few years later.

by FortyYearCatFan on Sep 14, 2008 8:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Didn't mean to start a mess of things...

Did not know this was such a hot button issue. Tru, sorry I never saw the other thread, didn’t mean to repeat.

In all fairness though,. I think its a bit unfair to automatically assume he is going to be gone after this year.
Honestly, would you leave if by doing so you would knowingly leave your team with nothing? If PP goes early and we don’t get another big guy, we are in serious trouble.
PP isn’t obsessed with personal gain like many players in the pros, he enjoys the college atmosphere here at UK, we all do, not to mention his parents and others have said he is going to stay all four years.
Then again, when the league calls and the money starts a-ringin, who knoes?

by BleedinUKBlue on Sep 13, 2008 11:33 PM EDT reply actions  

I don't think ...

… anybody is automatically assuming that, especially not me, despite the accusations of others in this thread. What I have consistently said is that if Patterson is a lottery pick, he will likely go. Others have disputed that point primarily by way of logical fallacy and a complete failure to engage reason.

Given Patterson’s performance last year, there is little reason to believe he won’t be better this year. He will have more help, for one thing, and be able to play more rested. If that happens, given what I see in the 2009 NBA recruiting class at the moment, there is a better than 50% probability he will be picked in the draft lottery. I am assuming a lot there, of course, but I think we should prepare on that basis, since, in my opinion, it is the high probability. And even if he is merely a first rounder, there is a reasonable probability that Gillispie will persuasively argue to Pat and his parents that he should avail himself of the opportunity.

And by the way, you didn’t do anything wrong, and there is nothing for you to apologize for.

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by Glenn Logan on Sep 14, 2008 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

S/recruiting/draft

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by Glenn Logan on Sep 14, 2008 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

Patterson

He’s 6-8. Very few post players that height in NBA.

He’ll need to show an outside game (15 ft jumper) this season.

by FortyYearCatFan on Sep 14, 2008 12:02 PM EDT reply actions  

Kenyon Martin: 6’9"; 234. Elton Brand: 6’8"; 254. Patrick Patterson: 6’8"; 235. It looks like PPat has reasonable size for an NBA ‘4’.

Correct my if I’m wrong (as if I need to ask), but wasn’t Patterson basically forced into playing an almost exclusively back-to-the-basket game by the lack of other such players on the team? Isn’t that supposed to be one of the reasons we’re so excited to get Harrelson in as another big body, somebody else who can bang and let Patterson move a bit more?

Also, because I simply can’t resist: being a good 3-point shooter doesn’t help if you can’t get open to shoot them; being a good free-throw shooter doesn’t help if you can’t get to the line; and a much better stat than ‘steals per 40 minutes’ might be ‘net TOs per 40 minutes’ counting steals against, passes thrown away, 10-second violations, etc.

by Mahatma on Sep 14, 2008 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

and Charles Barclay is perhaps the poster child for this type of player

Sir Charles was anywhere from 6-4 to 6-6 depending on who’s listing and was a great power forward. From what I’ve seen of Patterson, I have no trouble believing he could be an above average PF in the NBA, but the big question is whether NBA guys will be able to see past his height and judge his actual ability.

Keep in mind that NBA guys can never seem to be able to get over height/weight/wingspan when looking at players and are forever chasing “potential” (whatever that means) instead of what a player can actually do. The one team that has consistently not fallen into this trap are the Pistons, and I think it would be a lot of fun to watch PPat and Tayshaun on the court together.

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by JLeverenz on Sep 14, 2008 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Barkley And Patterson

Not even close. Not even in the same sentence.

And Barkley had outside jumpshot, too.

Patterson hasn’t shown it yet.

by FortyYearCatFan on Sep 14, 2008 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, that wasn't really my point

Of course Patterson doesn’t compare to Barclay. Most likely he never will as Barclay was an all time great, but that wasn’t the point. The point was that you don’t have to be 6-10, 6-11 to be a good PF in the NBA. Mahatma mentioned a few such examples, I mentioned another. There’s a lot more to being a good player than height.

And Patterson has a pretty decent jump shot himself, it’s not like all his baskets came on dunks and putbacks last year.

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by JLeverenz on Sep 14, 2008 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Barkley, Not Barclay

Charles was not PF in the NBA.

And Patterson must show his J this year to become Lottery Pick.

by FortyYearCatFan on Sep 14, 2008 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I always misspell his name

I think it’s because I was familiar with this Barclay before I was familiar with that one.

But where do you get that he wasn’t a PF in the NBA? That’s news to me (and pretty much every other NBA fan)

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by JLeverenz on Sep 14, 2008 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Watched Him Play

Not a post player (like Patterson) in NBA or even at Auburn.

by FortyYearCatFan on Sep 14, 2008 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Clipped

…He was fluid on the fast break, a powerful jumper, an accurate shooter and one of the NBA’s premier clutch players. He was a prolific scorer who averaged 22.1 points per game for his career, with the ability to score on the perimeter or finish inside with a powerful dunk. He scored with great efficiency and averaged 54.1% field goal accuracy for his career, including a career high 60% during the 1989-90 NBA season…

…In Barkley’s three-year college career, he averaged 14.3 points on 68.2% field goal shooting, 9.6 rebounds, 1.6 assists and 1.7 blocks per game…

IMO Patterson may get there but he’s not Charles Barkley-like yet.

by FortyYearCatFan on Sep 14, 2008 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

We're wandering off the point but...

At no time did I say that Patterson was – or ever would become – a player like Barkley. He doesn’t have to be like Barkley to be a good NBA player.

To get back to the point:

He’s 6-8. Very few post players that height in NBA.

He’ll need to show an outside game (15 ft jumper) this season.

There are plenty of good PFs in the NBA who are in the 6-7 to 6-9 height range. Some of them (Jamison) have good mid-range and outside games, but others (Boozer) don’t. Would it help Patterson to have a good 15 ft jumper? Sure, but it’s not a requirement for him to be successful at the next level.

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by JLeverenz on Sep 14, 2008 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Patterson Played C At UK Last Year

If he is to play either F in NBA, he’ll need to show J and other F skills.

Jamison, Boozer (et al) have them. But Boozer makes a good point. I think he was 2nd round draft pick because he didn’t show his skills in college.

by FortyYearCatFan on Sep 15, 2008 6:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

Someone will

I think a lot of teams may be taken in by the height issue which isnt that bad, only a little on the small side, and someone will take him.

Maxiell is 6-8 and Mcdyess is 6-9. It would be great to see him playing with the pistons but they have no shot at moving up high enough to draft pat and are already overloaded at the 4 spot.

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by davw83 on Sep 15, 2008 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Maxiell

Perfect example what Patterson can become.

Jason has an excellent 15 foot jumpshot and all kinds of shotblocking and rebounding skills.

by FortyYearCatFan on Sep 15, 2008 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Big Difference

Martin is a superior leaper and shotblocker. He dominated college basketball in 2000 as unanimous POY. And he had 15 foot jumpshot range. Elton Brand also has the shooting range that Patterson hasn’t shown yet. No comparison between PP and either of those two (yet).

PP plays 5 at UK. He’ll have to show more to play 4 in NBA.

by FortyYearCatFan on Sep 14, 2008 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

6-8 power forwards

6-8 is a little on the short side for power forwards in the NBA and Patterson does need to develop that jumper but there are plenty of power forwards in the NBA who are 6-8 to 6-9 that are exrememely effective.

Patterson is a little short but he isnt so short that I think it will be much of an issue.

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by davw83 on Sep 15, 2008 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

With J-Shot, Yes

6-8 forwards with jumpers are in the NBA.

6-8ers without, are rare.

by FortyYearCatFan on Sep 15, 2008 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agree

I agree

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by davw83 on Sep 16, 2008 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree ...

… but there are some good ones, as mentioned below. It would be better, though, if Patterson could develop more of a floor game.

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by Glenn Logan on Sep 14, 2008 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

this topic has probably run its course

with the AMAZING number of long and impassioned comments—who knew the issue of whether it could ever be a wise decision for potential lottery pick to stay in school was such a hot button?—this has got to be the fastest-exploding discussion (non-Tubby division) that I have ever seen. I know I’m a little late to the party here, but damn it, I’ve been superbusy over the last couple days and haven’t had time to fomulate some of the thoughts that have been flitting through my head, so I’m going to do it now, even though everybody else is probably over it.

First of all, the mention of Hansborough was interesting to me—that since his father was a surgeon (or something?), he was okay to stay in school without being thought insane. So the logic seems to be that worst case scenario, Hansborough never gets the huge NBA windfall he could have had, but his family is still the same upper-middle class it always was, and Tyler’s got a college degree plus oodles of local celebrity and name recognition and networking opportunities. So it’s okay for him to make this potentially risky decision because the potential negative outcome isn’t exactly catestrophically bad. But for the purpose of our discussion, we’ve been kind of assuming that PP’s family is basically middle class (I have no idea about the Patterson family finances, but this seems to be the assumption so I’m going with it). So it seems to me that the potential risk for the two players is basically the same—we’re just talking a matter of degrees here, not a fundamental difference. Neither family would actually lack for the necessities in life, one just has more of the luxuries than the other. What huge NBA money would add for both players is a LOT of life’s luxuries—while those are undoubtedly nice, to me they would be worth risking if something was really, really important to you. Now if we’re talking your family is so poor you can’t afford health care and there’s not enough food on the table, then yes, it is harder to see how you could pass up a potential huge payday.

One more point I’ve been thinking about is how no one has mentioned actual basketball here. Is it ridiculously naive of me to think that it is laudable for a player to want to gain strength and skill and maturity and experience in a more nurturing enviroment so he might actually become a competent pro-level basketball player some day? I don’t watch much NBA basketball so I’m hardly an expert on this, but it sure looks to me like a lot of these players that come out very early are quite simply NOT READY for NBA basketball when they arrive. Sure, they’re getting paid either way but if it were me, I’d want to make sure I was going to be competent and did a good job if someone was going to pay me an obscene amount of money for a very high profile job (I should point out that I am NOT naive enough to think that a player would ever think this way—extreme confidence in their own abilities is probably a necessity for top flight athletes). Like Tru said, PP is not in college to be a lawyer or a teacher—he’s going to be a professional basketball player. Because I think because that IS true, staying in school to become the best professional basketball player he can be when he gets there (rather than drawing the check as you take your lumps) would actually be a pretty admirable choice.

Something that’s suprised me about the discussion is the implication from some that it is not just illogical but actually willfully irresponsible for a player in this position to not go get the money for his family while he can. I have a hard time with this. First of all, it isn’t the responsiblity of a grown child to provide his parents with millions. I don’t see how it would make the child irresponsible to chose his own way over making himself and his parents and cousins and uncles rich (again, my assumption is that the parents in question are not actually poor to start with) and I don’t believe any good parent would wish for their child to do this. I do believe if it was my own child I wouldn’t want him to make such an important decision based solely on money, and CERTAINLY not for the benefit of my own bank account.

I should say that I actually DO think Patterson will probably leave after this year, and I wouldn’t in a million years fault him for this is he makes that choice—I just think it’s such a personal, nuanced decison that it isn’t one size fits all.

So sorry for the ridiculous length of this post—if in fact anyone is still reading : ) Obviously, I find this topic fascinating.

by blue kentucky girl on Sep 14, 2008 7:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Haha

So do I get an award or something?

by BleedinUKBlue on Sep 14, 2008 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

OK ...
Something that’s suprised me about the discussion is the implication from some that it is not just illogical but actually willfully irresponsible for a player in this position to not go get the money for his family while he can. I have a hard time with this. First of all, it isn’t the responsiblity of a grown child to provide his parents with millions. I don’t see how it would make the child irresponsible to chose his own way over making himself and his parents and cousins and uncles rich (again, my assumption is that the parents in question are not actually poor to start with) and I don’t believe any good parent would wish for their child to do this. I do believe if it was my own child I wouldn’t want him to make such an important decision based solely on money, and CERTAINLY not for the benefit of my own bank account.

When a 20-year old student makes a personal decision to go out and have unprotected sex with his girlfriend and gets her pregnant, we call that irresponsible. Why? Well, we assume that the decision was not one taken carefully, but rather carelessly. We assume, generally correctly, that the two young people have not thought it through and are not prepared to take on the responsibility of parenthood. We know there are challenges, and we know that they risk grave difficulties to themselves and possibly their entire family.

Now, when a 21-year old college graduate does the same thing, there are no charges of irresponsibility. We assume that they are able to obtain the means to support a family at that age by dint of the shingle on the wall.

Consider now the decision not to enter the draft when you are projected to be a lottery pick. It isn’t the “safe” choice, much like a failure to use a contraceptive when conception is undesired. Forget about the family, if the concept of providing some of them a piece in the event of a windfall bothers you. What about the person in question? Potentially risking a guaranteed contract for millions for … what, exactly? That “what” is really, really important.

I would argue, and have, that it is irresponsible not to enter the draft at the earliest available opportunity if you are likely to be a lottery pick. It is a risky decision that could adversely affect one’s future, and the rationale justifying it is generally unpersuasive. Hansbrough’s case is different for many reasons, not the least of which is that it is highly likely he has never been projected to be a lottery pick. It is certainly defensible to try to improve that standing and become one, and it is really defensible when your family has sufficient means to provide a safety net in case of failure, should that ever be needed due to catastrophic injury — broken necks and other such career-ending injuries are thankfully rare in college basketball, but they are by no means unknown.

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by Glenn Logan on Sep 14, 2008 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I swear I'll shut up after this

Tru says:
Forget about the family, if the concept of providing some of them a piece in the event of a windfall bothers you. What about the person in question? Potentially risking a guaranteed contract for millions for … what, exactly? That "what" is really, really important.

The “what” I’m talking about is personal happiness. I’m not particularly talking about Patterson here, but more just a theoretical situation. If there was a theoretical uber-talented athlete who happened to absolutely love college, it really meant a lot to him, loved college basketball and his classes and the whole college experience, loved the idea of playing for glory for his school and the fans, loved his coach and his teammates, and he had a great amount of team spirit and loyalty, and wanted like crazy to win a championship with his team…IF all that was true, AND his family wasn’t living in poverty…I don’t think the guy should be considered irrational to take that risk, in fact I think it would be quite honorable and certainly very rare in our materialistic society.

I am fully aware that I’m not being totally neutral here—I love college basketball so much that I’m giving it some sort of honor or purity over professional that it probably doesn’t deserve. Obviously if I’d grown up loving, say, the Miami Heat instead of the Kentucky Wildcats, I might feel differently. So yeah, I know I’m biased. I’ve never been an athlete, but to me it seems like being a part of a college team, playing for your teammates and coach and school and fans (and playing for future money, yeah, I know), would be something really special, compared to playing for a paycheck. And the thing is, it’s not a MASSIVE risk. It’s possible but pretty unlikely that staying when you could go could mean you’re never ever able to earn money playing basketball again. More likely, the risk is that you might end up earning LESS money by your stock going down—like Noah, say. And as was pointed out, there is insurance to protect you from the risk of a totally blown career.

And it’s not that providing your family with a windfall bothers me—I’d love to do that for my parents!—but the thought that daddy getting a Caddy in place of his Chevy would be more important than a kids hopes and dreams (again, theoretically) DOES bother me a little.

I sound embarrasingly earnest and idealistic, don’t I?? : )

by blue kentucky girl on Sep 14, 2008 11:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Well ...
The "what" I’m talking about is personal happiness. I’m not particularly talking about Patterson here, but more just a theoretical situation. If there was a theoretical uber-talented athlete who happened to absolutely love college, it really meant a lot to him, loved college basketball and his classes and the whole college experience, loved the idea of playing for glory for his school and the fans, loved his coach and his teammates, and he had a great amount of team spirit and loyalty, and wanted like crazy to win a championship with his team…IF all that was true, AND his family wasn’t living in poverty…I don’t think the guy should be considered irrational to take that risk, in fact I think it would be quite honorable and certainly very rare in our materialistic society.

All I can say is that each individual should evaluate his or her situation carefully. I love the ideal of eschewing the NBA for college, but I am mortified at the potential risk. Of course, if your family situation permits such a gamble, it is hard to be too critical.

I am fully aware that I’m not being totally neutral here—I love college basketball so much that I’m giving it some sort of honor or purity over professional that it probably doesn’t deserve.

I think we would all love to return to the days when you graduated college and then went off to the NBA. Unfortunately, the NBA seems unwilling to go there, and until they do, we have to deal with the reality of the situation.

And it’s not that providing your family with a windfall bothers me—I’d love to do that for my parents!—but the thought that daddy getting a Caddy in place of his Chevy would be more important than a kids hopes and dreams (again, theoretically) DOES bother me a little.

Indeed. Except, of course, when getting Mommy and Daddy that Caddy IS one of the hopes and dreams of the kid, as is so often the case.

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by Glenn Logan on Sep 15, 2008 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

Just wanted to point out that...

DJ Augustin, undersized point guard, First-Team ACADEMIC All-American, supporting family and financially stable situation and all, also talked many a time of staying for four years and completing his college degree.

Alas, the lure of guaranteed first round money is often too strong for one to resist.

by jc25 on Sep 15, 2008 6:36 PM EDT reply actions  

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