Gillispie close to signing formal contract with UK

Isn't it amazing how this dropped completely off the radar screen?

I guess people would rather talk about young recruiting. Unless, of course, the subject is anyone but Gillispie.

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Would it be safe to assume...

that on a national level UK and BCG gets raked over the coals for not having a contract signed all last year but it barely (if at all) creates a ripple when he does sign one.

by wldcatsfreak on Jul 17, 2008 2:21 PM EDT 0 recs

We'll have to wait ...

... and see, I guess.

But it would surprise me not at all. :-)

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by Truzenzuzex on Jul 17, 2008 2:33 PM EDT up 0 recs

What about Golden Boy?

Didn’t I hear that “the Lesser Billy” hadn’t signed his contract down in the swamp either? Wouldn’t it be strange if Billy G signed his first?

by Acdixon on Jul 17, 2008 2:36 PM EDT 0 recs

Oh Bay-Bee!

“Mr. Donovan holding out is perfect play. He should get the love he is due BAY-Bee!

In other news, things are a bit too blue in Kentucky. Billy G finally signed a contract at Kentucky. The drawn out deal can’t mean all is smooth for Tubby’s replacement.

Speaking of Tubby, he once bought a car from a guy who has a 6th grade son who can ball. Because he knew him already, it is a win win that he signed him. ( Although it is bad for the game.)”

Changing how you think will change what you think.

by wilson452 on Jul 17, 2008 5:02 PM EDT up 0 recs

^

LOL

by -Zoso- on Jul 17, 2008 7:26 PM EDT up 0 recs

Your Last Paragraph Is Absurd

The NABC is not one and the same as Tubby Smith.

by FortyYearCatFan on Jul 17, 2008 8:56 PM EDT up 0 recs

I don’t even think that was meant as a shot at Tubby. I could be wrong, but I took it to mean that it was a coach besides Coach G, so the media would be OK with it. More a shot at Vitale, in my mind. And a nice one at that!

by Acdixon on Jul 17, 2008 9:43 PM EDT up 0 recs

LOL

Forty, I actually had a disclaimer typed but thought it would not be needed. And pulled it. As Ben Franklin once said in one of his humorist pieces “Comedy is like a frog, when you dissect it, it looses it’s meaning.”

It was 150% shot at Vital. He will never get over the “situation” of Tubby/UK/BCG

We know he is in love with Billy D, Tubby, K, and Rick.

I would NEVER expect Tubby to ever go near any line set by his own heart, administration or NABC. I strung it as it would be by Vital: Billy-D to BCG/UK to Tubby and Tubby happens to be the Pres.

As soon as you can laugh about Tubby you will feel MUCH better.

Changing how you think will change what you think.

by wilson452 on Jul 18, 2008 10:10 AM EDT up 0 recs

Y Laugh About Tubby?

Even more absurd than the other comments.

Tubby has been scouting and recruiting freshmen and sophomores at Minnesota. He offered several of them but has declined to accept any commitments yet. He leads (and will likely get) many of the top Minnesota players in 2010 and 2011 classes eventually.

by FortyYearCatFan on Jul 18, 2008 1:07 PM EDT up 0 recs

Dude

Not his performance. No one is questioning that here. Just laugh about a joke that happens to involve him and is not explicitly about him.

I think wilson452 is trying to say “Lighten up!” Any time Tubby gets mentioned in any context around here, it seems like you go into full defensive mode. We like the guy. We really do. He’s had really good stats everywhere he’s been. He’s a genuinely nice guy. That doesn’t mean we can’t laugh about something tangentially connected to him, especially when the butt of the joke is Dick Vitale.

by Acdixon on Jul 18, 2008 2:17 PM EDT up 0 recs

No Joke

Vitale is right (early HS commitments are not good) but misspoke on Rivers-2-Fla.

More often than not, early commitments don’t pan out. The player changes his mind, or ultimately transfers elsewhere.

by FortyYearCatFan on Jul 18, 2008 3:59 PM EDT up 0 recs

Misspoke?

Not going to weigh in on the early commitment issue, but misspoke? How about flip-flopped?

by Acdixon on Jul 18, 2008 4:51 PM EDT up 0 recs

vitale is right?

how’s that? because you two have the same opinion? you say it like it’s a fact…you think vitale is right.

GO BIG BLUE!! GO BIG BLUE!!

by UKWildCatFanatic on Jul 18, 2008 5:22 PM EDT up 0 recs

Incapable

Dont bother.

Forty is incapable of a light hearted joke.

He just wants to be proven right and doesnt really care about the discussion.

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by davw83 on Jul 18, 2008 6:46 PM EDT up 0 recs

I'm confused..

why would a coach bother to "offer" several freshmen and sophomores but “decline to accept” their commitments? That makes absolutely no sense to me.

Oh yeah, and about this: "He leads (and will likely get) many of the top Minnesota players in 2010 and 2011 classes eventually"– seems like you are willing to give Tubby some time there…….Sounds a bit like a double-standard to me. What’s good for one coach (whom you quite obviously respect) should be good for the other (who is currently coaching the team you are a fan of), right? Doesn’t BCG deserve the same grace period that you are apparently giving Tubby as far as recruiting top-rated talent? And considering that Coach Gillispie has been a head coach for 6 years and Tubby 17 years, IMO, BCG should get an even greater amount of time to prove himself.

Honestly, for me, sometimes it’s hard to tell if you are a UK fan or just a Tubby fan.

by BigSkyCat on Jul 18, 2008 4:51 PM EDT up 0 recs

One point to add

Isn’t getting the top Minnesota players kind of like dating the prettiest girl at the county fair in a small county far in the Appalaichan Mountains?

;-)

Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."

by chirop1 on Jul 18, 2008 5:05 PM EDT up 0 recs

HA! HA!

Very cute and funny!! Good point.

Yes, I wouldn’t exactly consider the Minnesota pool that Tubby is reportedly (by Forty) recruiting from these days to even begin to compare with the scouring-the-ends-of-the-earth for talent that Billy Clyde is after! Only the players stars (oh, and not their astrological stars either, btw) will tell us who is better, isn’t that right? : )

by BigSkyCat on Jul 18, 2008 5:18 PM EDT up 0 recs

Minnesota Vs Kentucky HS Players

http://statsheet.com/bhsb/recruits_by_state Top 100, Top 50, Top 10. Minnesota > Kentucky in each category.

http://statsheet.com/bhsb/mcplayers_by_state McDonalds A-A only. Since 1990, Minnesota tied with Kentucky.

by FortyYearCatFan on Jul 19, 2008 9:50 AM EDT up 0 recs

Thanks for that...

and the time it probably took to get that info. But, clearly, we just have a miscommunication here…..

I wasn’t trying to compare the talent from Minnesota and Kentucky, but rather the talent from Minnesota that you implied Tubby was recruiting from, and the talent from every state BCG is obviously recruiting.

I apparently took you far too literally (in your initial comments) and then you took me literally right back. : )

by BigSkyCat on Jul 19, 2008 11:10 AM EDT up 0 recs

Minnesota

Also recruiting talent nationwide. Signed Canada POY. Signed JuCo POY. Signed well regarded big men from GA and SD.

Minnesota HS talent is very good, better than Kentucky recently.

by FortyYearCatFan on Jul 19, 2008 12:54 PM EDT up 0 recs

I doubt that.

Kentucky HS basketball, after being “dormant” since the mid-90’s ( as it pretains to producing D1 talent ) has hit a “good cycle” of late.

Check out the number of D1 players Kentucky has produced over the last 2-3 years.

by Ken Howlett on Jul 20, 2008 4:07 PM EDT up 0 recs

Warning!

Incoming overly elaborate and useless statistic incoming!

Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."

by chirop1 on Jul 20, 2008 4:24 PM EDT up 0 recs

LOL!

I suppose I could scour the rosters of every D1 team for Minnesota natives, but I have to have my wisdom teeth taken out, which will be much more enjoyable.

My point is that KY HS basketball has experienced a revival of sorts, not how good or bad MN HS basketball is.

by Ken Howlett on Jul 20, 2008 4:30 PM EDT up 0 recs

Dave Winfield

Minnesota native Winfield is still, I believe, the only person ever drafted by four professional leagues: MLB, NFL, NHL, and NBA.

Just some Minny related, useless trivia for those that crave such info.

by Ken Howlett on Jul 20, 2008 4:37 PM EDT up 0 recs

Minnesota stats

Ken, I never thought that you would be the one to provide the meaningless and overly elaborate stat.

Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."

by chirop1 on Jul 20, 2008 4:39 PM EDT up 0 recs

I consider my info to be trivia :)

Besides, I do what I can to further the efforts of FortyYear.

by Ken Howlett on Jul 20, 2008 8:49 PM EDT up 0 recs

hey now!

i was born in those appalachians (floyd county)...but you’re still right. ;)

GO BIG BLUE!! GO BIG BLUE!!

by UKWildCatFanatic on Jul 18, 2008 5:25 PM EDT up 0 recs

Actually Not So

Kansas had the top Minnesota HS player (from 2007) in their playing rotation in 2008.

You show your lack of knowledge of HS basketball – the state of Minnesota produces some very good HS talent. Better than Kentucky in recent years.

by FortyYearCatFan on Jul 19, 2008 9:36 AM EDT up 0 recs

disappointed...

chirop, your lack of knowledge regarding Minnesota HS basketball is appalling! ;-)

GO BIG BLUE!! GO BIG BLUE!!

by UKWildCatFanatic on Jul 19, 2008 11:48 AM EDT up 0 recs

Disappointing to me also

I will tell you one of the most shocking things I ever witnessed on mid-western television though… when I was in chiropractic school in Iowa, a few of us would get together occaisionally to watch Law and Order. We particularly liked it when we went to our friend Chris’ place because his fiance was a great cook. We got over there, ate, then sat down to hang out and watch TV… we put it on the local NBC affiliate… and they were showing a tape delay of the high school state wrestling tournament! Those mid-west people just aren’t right in the head.

Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."

by chirop1 on Jul 19, 2008 12:18 PM EDT up 0 recs

Indeed

One might think such an expert would have a wider range of knowledge.

One would be wrong.

by FortyYearCatFan on Jul 19, 2008 12:55 PM EDT up 0 recs

yeah

i feel the same way sometimes…not necessarily about chirop though.

GO BIG BLUE!! GO BIG BLUE!!

by UKWildCatFanatic on Jul 19, 2008 2:03 PM EDT up 0 recs

LOL

That was funny.

DEEETROIT BASKETBALLL!!!

by davw83 on Jul 19, 2008 3:43 PM EDT up 0 recs

That actually made me...

chuckle out loud at my desk.

Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."

by chirop1 on Jul 19, 2008 5:07 PM EDT up 0 recs

Someone also has a lot of free time as well….

by BigBlue87 on Jul 20, 2008 1:26 AM EDT up 0 recs

Chad Calcaterra (Example)

He was offered a scholarship last summer (as a rising sophomore). He wants to attend Minnesota. But there is no formal commitment (yet). I think he’ll commit this fall (as HS junior).

Minnesota HS players have long been inclined to attend the U of Minn. It’s the only Div I school in the state.

by FortyYearCatFan on Jul 19, 2008 9:35 AM EDT up 0 recs

Fitting ...

... I would say.

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by Truzenzuzex on Jul 17, 2008 6:21 PM EDT up 0 recs

Wait a second

I could’ve sworn I heard something about Donovan signing a contract…. something about the Magic….

by BigBlue87 on Jul 18, 2008 12:21 PM EDT up 0 recs

I wilson452

will never joke on this board again. At least I will avoid including the letters T – U – B – B – Y in the joke.

And yes, that was a joke.

Changing how you think will change what you think.

by wilson452 on Jul 19, 2008 3:30 PM EDT up 0 recs

Forty

It was hilarious and you know it.

Let the man make a joke.

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by davw83 on Jul 17, 2008 9:18 PM EDT 0 recs

The NABC instituted that absurd suggestion...

with Tubby at the helm…as we have seen lately…it is uninforceable.

Coaches will continue what they do to stay ahead.

by kykat51 on Jul 17, 2008 9:19 PM EDT 0 recs

It doesn't matter ...

... who is at the helm. The NABC has no power of enforcement.

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by Truzenzuzex on Jul 18, 2008 6:52 AM EDT up 0 recs

NABC Is 100's Of Coaches

Including Gillispie, Donovan, et al.

Tubby is just another 1 of them.

by FortyYearCatFan on Jul 18, 2008 7:11 AM EDT up 0 recs

Just another one of them...

Who happens to be president.

Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."

by chirop1 on Jul 18, 2008 7:32 AM EDT up 0 recs

Eddie Sutton Was President Of NABC Back In 1980's

It’s a ceremonial position with no power or authority. Do some research if you like.

by FortyYearCatFan on Jul 18, 2008 1:09 PM EDT up 0 recs

I'll just hang my head and be quiet now...

This whole thing is going right over your head.

Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."

by chirop1 on Jul 18, 2008 3:23 PM EDT up 0 recs

No

Yours. The NABC “position” was not established by Tubby Smith. Period.

by FortyYearCatFan on Jul 18, 2008 3:57 PM EDT up 0 recs

I've been president of organizations before

No matter how ceremonial… I always had input.

You are correct, it was NOT Tubby’s decision. But to act like the man has absolutely no responsibilities or requirements placed on him by his position and it is entirely just a ceremonial title to pad his resume is naive at best.

Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."

by chirop1 on Jul 18, 2008 4:16 PM EDT up 0 recs

Forty ...

... I had to remove your cut and paste. Sorry, but that was way too much to be considered fair use, and it was from a protected site (ESPN insider) which makes it even more problematic. l’m not upset or anything, but I am on the hook for copyright violations, so I do try to police them closely. If you had written permission for republication from ESPN, send me a copy of that authorization and repost it if you like with my apologies.

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by Truzenzuzex on Jul 19, 2008 3:05 PM EDT up 0 recs

we are aware of that

It was a joke.

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by davw83 on Jul 18, 2008 9:26 AM EDT up 0 recs

Arrrrrgh!

I like Tubby less and less all the time…..

by kentuckygirl0724 on Jul 18, 2008 3:59 PM EDT 0 recs

I still like Tubby...

...but I am liking Tubby discussion less and less all the time. It. was. a. JOKE!!!!! And the joke (which was funny, btw) wasn’t even about him, Dick Vitale was the butt of it. There was no slight at all to Coach Smith—unless it is somehow offensive to even speak (type) his name. I’m truly astounded that anyone could work so hard to find something there to get their panties in a bunch about.

by blue kentucky girl on Jul 18, 2008 6:46 PM EDT up 0 recs

That's just it

who really cares about Tubby?He is gone.Like some weak and needy wussbag talking about the EX.GET OVER IT.Hell,I wish Sea of Blue was a Tubby-free zone,LOL.

by -Zoso- on Jul 18, 2008 8:04 PM EDT 0 recs

Never happen ...

... Smith is part of us. He also is one of four coaches who won national championships at Kentucky. We can never ignore or forget that, or the great work he did here.

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by Truzenzuzex on Jul 19, 2008 8:51 AM EDT up 0 recs

I Think Many Do Ignore/Forget Those Things

Tubby Smith will forever be remembered as 22-13 or 22-12 coach. Not 219-58 coach the prior 8 seasons.

Many would say Pitino won the 1998 title. In fact, most say that.

by FortyYearCatFan on Jul 19, 2008 9:39 AM EDT 0 recs

Tubby and Joe Hall

I think a lot of comparisons will be made between the two. Both replaced very popular coaches. Both did a good job for the school. Both were derided on their way out the door.

Flash forward 20 years from when Hall left, and he is seen as a beloved figure in the state. Tubby will be the same way in 2028.

Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."

by chirop1 on Jul 19, 2008 9:46 AM EDT up 0 recs

Hold up

I dont hear most say that.

In fact I dont think Pitino would have won the 98 title if he were the coach of the 98 team.

DEEETROIT BASKETBALLL!!!

by davw83 on Jul 19, 2008 10:19 AM EDT up 0 recs

My stance exactly

Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."

by chirop1 on Jul 19, 2008 10:31 AM EDT up 0 recs

I Don't Either BUT

Many (I daresay MOST) think the 98 title belongs to Pitino.

by FortyYearCatFan on Jul 19, 2008 10:48 AM EDT up 0 recs

Tubby Or Hall

Hall made 1975 FF in part because Scott May (key IU player) was injured and ineffective (but did play vs UK).

Tubby missed 2003 FF in part because Keith Bogans was injured and ineffective (but did play vs Marquette).

Hall made 1984 FF with narrow W over Illinois on Rupp Arena (home) court.

Tubby missed 2005 FF with narrow L in 2OT to Michigan State.

Few will even remember Tubby Smith in 2028. He will be a beloved figure in Minnesota for his achievements there over the next decade.

by FortyYearCatFan on Jul 19, 2008 9:54 AM EDT 0 recs

OMG

You are such a grumpy old man….... the cats are back….accept it or to take some viagra…......I haven’t seen one positive post from you…........it make my stomach hurt because we are looking at a reserection like the pitino years. Yes UK sunk that low…...........CBC will be more of a Rupp Coach by the time he leaves….........hopefully he stays just as long, but more than likely not…......I won’t bash former coaches. Hell I love Pitino and everything he did for this team. I love how Tubby was a personal person (?) but it was time to get back to a coach that doesn’t play the media, doesn’t care what we think. He isn’t a media guy, just doing what it takes to get by and thats it. He has UK as a target on all top recruits list, when was the last time that happened? I have decided I am ignoring your post from here on out, because, to be honest, you are another VITALE…......a Tubby lover….sad part is, this article didn’t bring him up.. Time marches on, either you are with it or you will be left in the past

by BlueBloodedCatfan on Jul 19, 2008 2:52 PM EDT up 0 recs

C'mon, now, let's disagree, not be disagreeable.

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by Truzenzuzex on Jul 19, 2008 3:07 PM EDT up 0 recs

TRU

You have to admit his act does get old man.

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by davw83 on Jul 19, 2008 3:45 PM EDT 0 recs

What I know is that ...

... we have to stick with what makes us such a great place—that is to have respect for everyone, even when they take positions that we strongly disagree with or that annoy us. Expressing our disapproval and disagreement in a polite way separates A Sea of Blue from some of the other boards that are almost intolerable.

I know I am preaching to the choir, but - do ya feel me, bro? :)

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by Truzenzuzex on Jul 19, 2008 3:58 PM EDT up 0 recs