Kentucky Football: Pulley vs. Hartline
So it looks like, according to Joker Phillips, that Mike Hartline has pulled ahead of Curtis Pulley in the race to be the guy that replaces André Woodson at the quarterback slot. From the article above, it is pretty clear that Hartline wants the job badly, and Pulley is thinking it's his. I suspect that will change a bit after this article, but we'll see.
So who should be the guy to lead the Wildcats' offense this coming season? Early on, like most people, I tended to default to Curtis Pulley because of his outstanding athleticism, but recent comments from Brooks (subscription required) have made me wonder if he is the right man for the job. Brooks has already called both quarterbacks, "... farther ahead than Andre' Woodson was the first year he was a full-time starter ...", and that certainly should excite Wildcat fans to some degree. But then again, when we recall the struggles of Woodson in his first few games as a starter, it could give us reason for concern.
What I like about Hartline is his apparent hunger for the job. In no way, and by no means is he going to let Curtis Pulley slide into the starting signal-caller spot without a fight. Hartline is determined to beat him out, and by the look of things, he is making some real progress toward that end. As usual, it can be a little difficult to tell whether or not the coaching staff is trying to motivate Pulley by their recent comments in the media, but it is my inclination to take them at their word.
Neither Pulley nor Hartline has served any significant time at quarterback, although Pulley has played in more games and shown his great running ability, although not so much of his passing side. Hartline, on the other hand, was well-regarded by scouts for his poise, leadership and accurate arm, and although he doesn't have the speed or athleticism of Pulley (4.5 second 40 yard dash vs. Harline's 5.07), he is not athletically challenged by any means. Hartline was the best QB prospect out of the state of Ohio in 2006, and he is apparently showing the coaches at Kentucky why that was. His brother, Brian, is #1 on the depth chart at wide receiver for a pretty good football program nicknamed the Buckeyes, so this family has plenty of athleticism.
In the end, I think it depends upon how Pulley reacts to this latest round of comments by coaches in the media as to whether or not he is the starter come September. Both men seem to have the tools, and it isn't beyond the realm of possibility that both men will see time at quarterback every game, much like other teams have done. Brooks did say that Pulley could run some routes, but that he is a quarterback and will not be converted to a full time wideout. Losing the starting job to André Woodson had a huge emotional impact on Pulley in 2006, and it will be instructive to see if he revisits that if he doesn't respond and Hartline takes the job.
I think the 'Cats will be fine with either man at the helm. Pulley is more versitile, but Hartline is showing the kind of poise and leadership that every team needs at quarterback. Can Pulley respond? We'll see.
UPDATE 03:46 PM: Joker clarifies his earlier comments. I'd be willing to bet somebody got their panties all up in a bunch.
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If Pulley and hartline’s ability at this point are as close as it seems I would like to see Hartline made the QB ad Pulley moved to full time wideout. We really need Pulley’s athleticism on the field and I think he could make a pretty good wide receiver having been an QB for so long.
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by davw83 on Jul 1, 2008 10:21 AM EDT 0 recs
Brooks ...
... says Pulley won’t be converted. Period. He said Pulley may see time at WR, but not full time.
That’s just what he said. I don’t think he is kidding.
I agree that Pulley would make a fine wideout, and that’s what he’ll likely be in the League. But Brooks seems adamant about that point.
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by Truzenzuzex on
Jul 1, 2008 10:29 AM EDT
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I dont think Pulley could handle the change. If Brooks were to move him to wideout I think Pulley would bail on him and then you would no Pulley anywhere. Pulley doesnt strike me as a very mature individual.
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by davw83 on Jul 1, 2008 11:28 AM EDT 0 recs
Pulley vs Hartline
You know… when it comes to the mobility and athleticism, I’m not convinced that we “need” that this year. We have a strong running game which should keep defenses honest and an experienced line that should know its responsibilities. So a mobile quarterback isn’t as necessary as it might have been in past years.
One thing this young team needs is leadership. Whichever of these young men has the advantage in that category should get the job. IMO.
Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."
by chirop1 on Jul 1, 2008 1:51 PM EDT 0 recs
Great point!
I like having them both on the field. We talk about coaches using words in the media to inspire and those may have been the ones from Coach B back several months when he said Pulley would NOT move to WO. Those may have been the words to get his head back to the team. Now we may see the truth in the paper today and the old NFL coach may sit him down and say “I was behind you and it just didn’t happen. Your best shot at the NFL is WO anyway so get out there and lead the SEC in grabs.”
Who knows. I just like getting as much talent on the field as possible.
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by wilson452 on
Jul 1, 2008 4:40 PM EDT
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Indeed.
This is especially true since Joker seems unwilling to change the offense to a spread form (like West Virginia and Pat White) to accommodate for Pulley. I’m not entirely sure since defenses haven’t figured out how to stop it entirely.
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by Thomas Hunt Morgan on
Jul 1, 2008 7:39 PM EDT
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Correlation to Ohio State
I am fairly certain very few on this site keep tabs on the buckeyes, but it is interesting to note that UKs quarterback situation is somewhat similar to what osu had a few years ago when trying to decide between Troy Smith and Justin Zwick. Zwick came in as one of the countries most highly prized recruits out of traditional powerhouse Massillon (Ohio) and Smith was a relative unknown with loads of athletic ability but was seen as being imature and potential trouble.
Both sat behind Craig Krenzel (QB’ed in NC game vs. Miami) their freshman year and most people up here felt the starting spot would be Zwicks to lose (tall, monster arm, traditional pocket passer.) While everyone was ready to crown Zwick the heir apparent , they were loudly screaming for Smith to be moved to tailback or wideout so his athletic ability could still be utilized.
Anyway, to make a long story short, after a few Zwick starts, Tressel (head coach at osu if anyone didn’t know) bucked popular opinion and went with Troy Smith at QB. (Side note: Smith did have some minor off field problems that allowed Zwick to get those starts.) Most ohio state fans screamed bloody murder and felt the coach was making a huge mistake. For those unaware of recent ohio state history, Smith went on to win a heisman trophy and QB a national title game (blowout to fla.)
I learned two things from watching this, 1) the coaches spend a whole lot more time with these kids than the average fan does and knows their strengths a weaknesses better, and 2) exactly like chirop1 said above, it has to come down to who shows the best leadership, especially when dealing with a team as young as our wildcats are this year. That person will be the biggest asset under center and I am confident the coaches will chose the best fit.
by wldcatsfreak on Jul 1, 2008 2:41 PM EDT 0 recs
The QB competition...
should only make each player better. I really am not sure who I prefer to be QB. It really doesn’t matter to me so long as the man chosen gets the job done. I think Pulley made a mistake going to UK in the first place. I said that when he committed. He would be a perfect fit in a WVU, Oregon, Florida type spread offense and UK runs a very balanced pro-style offense. My only concern (as mentioned in the column) is the reaction from Pulley should he not get the starting nod. I would hope that he is mature enough to handle it well, use it as motivation to get better and stick with it because injuries happen and you never know when you might get your shot. However, I think he believes he is talented enough to start somewhere and may consider transferring to a place that wants to utilize his skill set.
by SevenRings on Jul 1, 2008 3:20 PM EDT 0 recs
Eligibility remaining
Can anyone refresh my memory on the classification of both guys? It seems to me that Pulley came in when Woodson was a Sophomore, so is he a Senior this year?
Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."
by chirop1 on Jul 1, 2008 3:51 PM EDT 0 recs
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Pulley is a junior this year. He redshirted last season. I dont think he’s transferring anywhere if he loses the starting job but I wouldnt be very confident about his level of effort. By the time he thransfers and sits out he would hardly have any eligibility left.
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by davw83 on Jul 1, 2008 4:06 PM EDT 0 recs








