The Roburt Sallie Story
Aloha from A Sea of Blue mobile headquarters in Makaha, Hawai'i. Still no Roderick Flemings sightings, I'm sorry to report.
Just in case you haven't heard, another JUCO combo guard, Roburt Sallie, is expected to visit UK this weekend according to Jim Tirey of The Cats Pause. So who is Roburt Sallie and what is his story? That, friends and neighbors, is the $65,000 question, and quite frankly, has an astonishingly convoluted answer full of incompetence, bizarre and obscure rules, and a typically clueless NCAA clearinghouse trying to do its job far too well.
This article at The Bleacher Report has the distinction of being the only one I have really ever linked from there as a well-written and authoritative source. In it, the author describes the tale of how Sallie worked hard to come to Nebraska, apparently doing all he was asked by the NCAA regulations and the school. Due to the "diploma mill" stigma that a number of prep schools have received from the NCAA (deservedly so, in many cases), prepping can be a road into an ever more convoluted NCAA qualification maze. This is just a fact of life.
But that's just the beginning. With the NCAA Clearinghouse reviewing Sallie's qualifications to matriculate to Nebraska, Nebraska apparently allowed Sallie to attend some classes in preparation for his presumed approval by the Clearinghouse. Perversely, though, the Clearinghouse demanded an extraordinary amount of proof from Sallie in the form of "homework papers and copies of tests." Eventually, the Clearinghouse declared Sallie ineligible, and Sallie went to City College of San Francisco with the full intention of returning to Nebraska.
Unfortunately, the Big 12 has a rule that essentially says student athletes cannot enroll in school unless they meet the initial athletic eligibility standards, which apparently happened instead of just permitting Sallie to attend classes. If the school breaks that rule, the affected player can never, ever play at that institution, nor any other school in the Big 12 conference.
So Sallie is forever banned from playing in the Big 12 due to administrative incompetence and hyper-stringent regulation (in this writer's opinion, at least). There should at least be an appeal's process for this, but quite honestly, Nebraska's loss will likely be Kentucky's (or some other school on his list) gain -- and Sallie has an impressive list, including Memphis, Cincinnati, and Maryland.
The author of the Bleacher Report article says that Sallie was "easily the most anticipated basketball recruit since Tyronn Lue." For any of you that don't remember Lue, he turned out to be the #23 overall pick in an early-entry draft and an NBA starter. If Sallie is only half the player Lue turned out to be, he is more than good enough to play at Kentucky.
So Sallie is an intriguing prospect for the Wildcats, and yet another possible JUCO player for Billy Gillispie, who has two JUCOs already committed. Also keep in mind that Internet and YouTube sensation Hunter McClintock will be in Lexington this weekend to attend the Elite camp put on by Gillispie.
The recruiting excitement never seems to end here at Kentucky, and compared with the almost opaque recruiting methods of Tubby Smith's years here, it is an interesting, and from a blogging standpoint welcome, change. Gillispie seems to almost enjoy the buzz created whenever a new recruit comes on his radar, and I think it is working out very well for him in the off season. Gillispie even has guys like North Carolina fan and Loathsome Troll Jeff Goodman spooked to the extend that the articles coming out of that black pit of despair he calls a blog have swung over to the highly negative and skeptical.
For my money, that means Coach Gillispie is doing it right.
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Roburt Sallie Visiting This Weekend
(Clipped from Hoopmasters when he signed with Nebraska last fall, where the coach is a former Gillispie assistant at UTEP)
Sallie will join the Huskers after playing this season at City College of San Francisco for Coach Justin Labagh. A 6-4, 190-pound guard from Sacramento, Sallie is averaging 21 points, 10.7 assists and 6.3 rebounds per game while helping CCSF to a 3-0 start to the season.
At Sacramento (Calif.) Valley High School, Sallie was an All-Metro selection his last two years, averaging 21.5 points per game as a senior. He was the Delta League MVP in 2003 and helped the Vikings to back-to-back sectional titles and two appearances in the NorCal finals. Sallie originally signed as a high school senior with Washington.
After completing his high school degree at Laurinburg (N.C.) Institute in 2005, Sallie spent a season at the prep school level playing for The Patterson School in Lenoir, N.C. Sallie averaged 13 points, seven assists and four rebounds per game while helping Patterson to a 34-3 record in 2005-06. Sallie played for Coach Chris Cheney at both Laurinburg and Patterson, helping his teams to a 74-3 record over two years, including a perfect 40-0 mark and prep school national title during the 2004-05 campaign when Sallie averaged 11 points per game.
Following the 2005-06 campaign, Sallie signed with Nebraska and started classes in the fall of 2006, but was not cleared by the NCAA Clearinghouse. He then enrolled for the second semester at CCSF, where he focused on academics and did not play basketball. Sallie has also been recruited during his career by Memphis, Maryland, Kansas, Wake Forest, St. John’s and Seton Hall, among others.
by FortyYearCatFan on Jun 4, 2008 6:50 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
by FortyYearCatFan on Jun 4, 2008 3:34 PM EDT 0 recs
He has got a lot of mileage...
Sacramento, Nebraska, North Carolina, Washington, San Francisco? This dude has done some traveling. Seems like he should be about 30 years old after all that.
UK has the greatest fans in the world!
by GoCats on
Jun 4, 2008 7:53 PM EDT
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HS Grad In 2005, Prep In 2006, JuCo In 2008
Likely 21 or 22 by now.
by FortyYearCatFan on
Jun 4, 2008 9:48 PM EDT
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Sallie
The Bleacher Report piece is well worth a read.
This kid is in dire need of a break. After being screwed around by the NCAA, The Big 12, and Nebraska I’m sure he is ready to settle down, and throw down on the court.
I wonder if Sadler (FOB) has anything to do with Sallie’s interest in UK? If so, and he attends UK, then maybe a home and home would be a nice reward for the Nebraska coach :)
by Ken Howlett on Jun 4, 2008 5:19 PM EDT 0 recs
Dunno ...
... Nebraska has tried to get a home-and-home with us before, only to be turned down.
But that is an interesting point. If we suddenly see Nebraska appear on the schedule, I’d argue you have connected the dots correctly.
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by Truzenzuzex on
Jun 4, 2008 5:31 PM EDT
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My comment ...
... about the home and home was partly in jest due to Sadler’s previous attempt to schedule UK.
When that was in the news I was pretty hard on Sadler for his attempt because I didn’t think Nebraska warranted a home and home with UK. That may change in my mind though if Sallie dons the blue and white of UK.
I think Gillispie should pull out all of the stops to get this kid. He seems like he’s a player.
by Ken Howlett on
Jun 4, 2008 5:39 PM EDT
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Clearinghouse
So wait… by all accounts this kid went to school and completed his work and he gets denied by the clearinghouse… but OJ Mayo and the blatantly obvious (even to those who don’t follow these things) violations associated with his pre-college days gets approved?
Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."
by chirop1 on Jun 4, 2008 5:44 PM EDT 0 recs
Yes
That’s how it works.
But Mayo had high test score and very good GPA in HS.
by FortyYearCatFan on Jun 4, 2008 5:50 PM EDT 0 recs
Just when I thought things had cooled off.BG=Hardworker,period.You know it’s nuts when UK fans can’t keep up ;)
by -Zoso- on Jun 4, 2008 7:21 PM EDT 0 recs
No More, No Less Than Previous UK Coaches
Hall signed 10 classes rated Top 15 or better in 14 years.
Sutton 3 in 4 years, Pitino 4 in 8 years. Tubby 6 in 9 years.
Gillispie much the same as any or all of those coaches.
by FortyYearCatFan on
Jun 4, 2008 9:49 PM EDT
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So can I assume that...
you do not get excited about about our NEW coach and his recruiting?
Mind if I hire FGM to come to your home and plant some big fireworks!
by kykat51 on
Jun 4, 2008 11:02 PM EDT
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No More, No Less Than The Others
I’ve followed UK recruiting since 1966.
by FortyYearCatFan on
Jun 5, 2008 6:36 AM EDT
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but
how many have gotten (around) 10 commitments in their first full year?
GO BIG BLUE!! GO BIG BLUE!!
by UKWildCatFanatic on
Jun 4, 2008 11:31 PM EDT
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Hall had 9 commitments his first full year (April 1972 thru April 1973).
Sutton had 3 (April 1985 thru April 1986). Pitino had 5 (June 1989 thru June 1990).
Tubby had 6 (May 1997 thru May 1998).
by FortyYearCatFan on
Jun 5, 2008 6:40 AM EDT
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Sutton?
Can we really count Sutton when talking about recruiting? Hopefully we do not recruit the way Sutton apparently did.
UK has the greatest fans in the world!
by GoCats on
Jun 5, 2008 12:00 AM EDT
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Sutton was building a dynasty when it all blew up in his face.
The team he recruited is not the team that Pitino took over. Those guys either never made it to campus, or left.
by Ken Howlett on
Jun 5, 2008 12:10 AM EDT
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I wasn't saying that...
He brought in some incredible recruits, I was just saying Emory should not count when talking about recruiting.
UK has the greatest fans in the world!
by GoCats on
Jun 5, 2008 12:18 AM EDT
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My apologies ...
... I agree with you.
Who knows what would have happened in the long run, but Sutton surely screwed up a good thing. He had it goin’ on as far as recruiting. Pressure, baby, it does strange things to a body.
by Ken Howlett on
Jun 5, 2008 12:35 AM EDT
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UK Recruited That Way Under Hall, Too
Got caught in 1976 and got NCAA probation in 1977 and 78.
Almost got caught again in 1984 or 85 (Lex H-L articles) before he retired.
Not just Sutton. Not just UK. Cheating was pretty common in 1960’s – 70’s – 80’s (UCLA).
by FortyYearCatFan on
Jun 5, 2008 6:42 AM EDT
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Coach and staff...
very secretive as it should be.
One just never knows what is coming next. Isn’t it exciting?
I honestly don’t think they ever stop!
by kykat51 on Jun 4, 2008 8:41 PM EDT 0 recs
Nitpicking but...
...I thought you’d appreciate the info:
blank”>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The$64,000_Question
by Clandestine on Jun 4, 2008 10:05 PM EDT 0 recs
New Platform...
...didn’t like the ”$” in the URL.
by Clandestine on
Jun 4, 2008 10:10 PM EDT
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Have to say
The article you linked about Flemings’ commitment to Hawaii makes him look like a total d-bag. Quoting his JUCO coach: "I feel like in the WAC . . . he’ll have the chance to put up the same kind of numbers he put up for us, you know, lead the conference in scoring, rebounding. The Southeast Conference that Kentucky’s in is a little stronger league.”
Well, duh, but it sounds like Flemings was just SCARED of the SEC. Good riddance. Have fun dominating the WAC.
I also take note with his reference to the SEC as being “a little stronger” than the WAC. Even with the SEC being “down” last season. . .why am I even arguing this point? Perhaps he meant that tongue in cheek. . .
by blbskue on Jun 5, 2008 10:23 AM EDT 0 recs
Flemings is ...
... so “yesterday’s news.”
I only mention him because UH is just a few miles from where I am right now.
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by Truzenzuzex on
Jun 5, 2008 1:05 PM EDT
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To clarify
I was aware of Flemings and his UH commitment, I just had not read that article or seen that quote. I never understood his commitment to UH, but now it all make sense. . .
by blbskue on
Jun 5, 2008 4:29 PM EDT
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I got ya ...
... I havent’t seen that either, so your point is well taken.
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by Truzenzuzex on
Jun 5, 2008 6:18 PM EDT
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