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Joe Crawford Now a Laker

Congratulations to Joe Crawford for being selected in the 2nd round of the NBA draft.  Crawford went #58 to the Los Angeles Lakers.

Crawford really came on in the last 2/3 of this season after a slow recovery from minor knee surgery last year and a bit of a rocky start with Kentucky's new coach, Billy Gillispie.  As the year progressed, Crawford and teammate Ramel Bradley developed into a dynamic duo and became the backbone of a Kentucky team that reinvented itself after a rocky non-conference season to finish second in the SEC East.

What I will always remember is the sudden appearance of noticeable heart and passion in Crawford, who for three years at Kentucky played with a kind of disinterested and even surly demeanor.  Later in his senior year, it became obvious that he was leaving it on the floor every single game, and Crawford became an unmistakable leader for the Wildcats.

When looking back at Joe's career, StatSheet.com has a couple of charts that provide some compelling food for thought and reflection.  First, this one:

 

As you can see, Joe's scoring had exactly the kind of trendline you want to see in a player -- steady, predictable and always in the right direction.  The only reason this chart would give any of the Wildcat faithful heartburn is because Crawford was a McDonald's All-American.  High school all-Americans often develop much faster, but not always.  This is a lesson learned for us all about the differences beteween the high school and college game.

Chart 1 is the kind of chart I want to see if I am Mitch Kupchack or Phil Jackson.  It is illustrative of a player constantly working to improve his game, and a little more improvement is all Joe needs to make the Lakers team and help them.  No, he isn't going to get a lot of minutes playing behind Kobe Bryant, but he will certainly learn a lot about basketball practicing and playing with him.

 


Chart 2 above shows Joe Crawford's progression over the 2007-2008 season. Unlike previous years where Joe would be up one game and down the next, 2008, particularly the last 3/4 of the season, was a model of consistency for any player.  Joe just kept scoring more and getting better, and that trend carried over into the pre-NBA draft camps and workouts, resulting in Crawford moving his NBA stock consistently upward.

So congratulations, once again, to Joe Crawford.  He has finally realized a dream and been drafted by the NBA.  I think Joe will make the Lakers, but if not, I am confident he will find an NBA team he can contribute to.  Of course, there is no guarantee with second-round picks, either that they will be on the team or that they will earn a dime.  But Crawford has learned during his time at Kentucky that earning things is what makes the world go 'round, and that is no different in the NBA than in college.  Joe will earn it, and I believe he will succeed.

Poll
What player will Joe Crawford's NBA career most resemble?
Jamaal Mashburn
24 votes
Walter McCarty
32 votes
Keith Bogans
469 votes
Mark Pope
13 votes
Dirk Minnefield
16 votes
Joe will be a star
49 votes
Joe will make his money overseas
112 votes

715 votes | Poll has closed

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Congrats

Still wish he’d dropped one more slot to the Pistons. Would have been close to home and not as much competition for playing time. After Kobe, he’s still got guys like Vujacic and Farmar at the guard spots to contend with. I think he would have played well with Detroit’s bench guys like Stuckey and Maxiell. (Not that I’m that big a Pistons fan. I pull for the Spurs, but Crawford wasn’t foreign enough for them!) Obviously, I hope for the best for Joe, but the best might end up being going to the D-League and coming up with a team where he can get more minutes right away. Hey, it worked for Kelenna.

by Acdixon on Jun 27, 2008 9:10 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I went with the McCarty option

Walter played for a few years, he was a fan favorite, but never a star.

Bogans is an apt comparison in terms of his game. In fact, Bilas even described him as a shorter Keith Bogans last night. But the main difference I see is that Bogans has the opportunity to be a consistent starter on his team in the NBA. Crawford’s only chance at that with the Lakers would be in a “Ron Harper role” from Phil’s second set of Bulls teams/first Lakers (and I see that as a very slim possibility and several years down the road).

Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."

by chirop1 on Jun 27, 2008 9:10 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Me, too

I also chose McCarty, for much the same reason. If Crawford had gone somewhere with more need at his position (like Detroit or, ironically, Orlando), I might have chosen Bogans. Although, unquestionably, his game is more Bogans (Bilas was right about that), his career is likely to be more McCarty in my mind.

by Acdixon on Jun 27, 2008 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Crawford

I think he has a realistic shot of making the team and getting a little more pt.

After the conference finals the Lakers are going to be looking for tougher players who arent as soft as Vucawhatever and Radmonovic. I think he has a decent shot at being Kobe’s backup if he can defend better than either of the europeans which shouldnt be too hard to do.

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by davw83 on Jun 27, 2008 9:28 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

True ...

... Vucawhaddafavichksolmiksy couldn’t defend his own shadow. He is a deadly shooter, but whenever he came in, the Lakers could not stop whoever he was covering from either getting a look, or making a clean entry.

Crawford needs to develop a reliable 3-point shot and he will be fine. He will be a much better defender from day 1.

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by Truzenzuzex on Jun 27, 2008 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe

I agree he’ll be a better defender than Vujacic, but two guards in the NBA are huge. Will that put Joe at such a size disadvantage that his superior on-ball defense will be overshadowed? If he develops an ultra-reliable 3-point shot, it may become moot, especially considering that he can drive and finish, unlike Vujacic. I still just think he’d be a better fit elsewhere, and admittedly, I’d prefer not to have any reason to pull for the Lakers with Phil “Buddha” Jackson and Kobe “not-quite-Micheal-Jordan” Bryant. How about Crawford and Turiaf to the Pistons for Maxiell? That gets most of the likable players out of LA, and gets one of Thuggins’ guys off a team with Tayshaun. :)

by Acdixon on Jun 27, 2008 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maxiell

Hold the phone my friend. Do not let your time spent watching Maxiell play for Huggy Bear color your views of him. Maxiell is a great worker and not a thug at all and has more game than Turiaff. I would love to see Joe play for Detroit but Maxiell is a very valuable sub and is a great teammate. . He is going to be a very good backup for a number of years.

DEEETROIT BASKETBALLL!!!

by davw83 on Jun 27, 2008 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mostly agree

I actually have seen Maxiell play a bit in the pros. I do like his game, and agree he’s much better than Turiaf and will be a valuable role player for a long time. What little I have seen of him, he seems a little showier than I like, but since I pull for the Spurs (probably the least showy of any NBA team) you probably already knew that. Perhaps you’re right that I’ve taken that, combined it with the fact that he played for Huggins, and wrongly implied some negative character traits. The point of my post was more about getting a couple of players I like into a better situation (or at least one where they didn’t have Kobe for a teammate) and I guess Maxiell made a convenient target to make that happen. FWIW, I almost didn’t make that last post because I figured I’d provoke that reaction from you. No slight intended to Maxiell, but a big one aimed at Huggins.

by Acdixon on Jun 27, 2008 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Huggins

You can make all the posts you want. You wont offend me. I enjoy conversating about my team in any fashion. I agree with you about Huggins. Dude is shady beyond belief. I thought the same thing about Maxiell when he first came Detroit. I didnt like him at all because they only time I had seen him was when he and Chuck Hayes were going at it on the court. After watching him for a couple years I have become a big fan of his. He really works hard on his game and seems to be a good duy. Joe Dumars does not suffer anyone of low charachter on his teams.

DEEETROIT BASKETBALLL!!!

by davw83 on Jun 27, 2008 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's Beaten Duke Twice In Past 10 Years

He’s a heckuva coach. More than 600 career W. Has better W-L (%) record than Pitino and averages more W per season than P also.

by FortyYearCatFan on Jun 28, 2008 7:24 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not what I said

I didn’t say he wasn’t a good coach; I said he was a first class jerk. You can be both.

by Acdixon on Jun 28, 2008 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fortyyear

Fortyyear doesnt deal witgh anything but facts so Huggins could be the biggest jerk on the planet and it wouldnt matter. Due to his winning percentage Forty is a fan.

DEEETROIT BASKETBALLL!!!

by davw83 on Jun 28, 2008 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maxiell

I know Jason’s Mom. He’s a great young man.

His final 2 choices were UC and Kentucky.

by FortyYearCatFan on Jun 28, 2008 7:23 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Celtics vs. Lakers 2009 NBA Finals

Crawford defends Rondo.

Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."

by chirop1 on Jun 27, 2008 9:47 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Love Lofton but....

do you think Tubby messed up not taking Lofton considering the recent draft? Sure Lofton turned out to be a better college player but wouldn’t most say that Joe was a better pick and would have left Lofton in the dust had he realized his potential earlier in his college career? Congrats Joe and thank you Coach G for showing Joe whatever it was that he needed to get to the NBA!! Can’t stand the Fakers but I will root for JOE!!

by bluecrip on Jun 27, 2008 10:52 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Complicated

I’m not going to weigh in on the “should Tubby have taken Lofton” debate; goodness knows that’s been beaten to death. But using the draft as a gauge isn’t really fair in light of the revelation that Lofton played last season while fighting cancer. Even if Lofton had come out last year, he might have gone higher than Joe did this year, and if he’d been cancer-free and elevated his game even more (as most seniors do) I feel like he probably would have gone higher than Crawford last night. (I think at 100%, Lofton is better than Shan Foster, anyway.) If the debatable kidney condition of Darrell Arthur took him from lottery lock to late first rounder, imagine what the cancer threat did to Lofton’s stock. I think you’ll see someone take a flier on him in summer league. How he responds there will determine whether he catches on somewhere or not.

by Acdixon on Jun 27, 2008 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lofton

I think Lofton would have gone undrafted no matter when he came out for the draft. He wasnt drafted becuase he’s not a point guard and he is WAY WAY WAY to small and slow to play the 2 guard spot in the NBA. He had an outstanding college carreer and will make some decent money overseas he just isnt physically gifted enough to guard people in the NBA.

DEEETROIT BASKETBALLL!!!

by davw83 on Jun 27, 2008 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

In all fairness...

Four years ago that last sentence could have read:

“He had an outstanding high school carreer and will get a good education at a mid-major school he just isnt physically gifted enough to guard people in the SEC.

For the record though… I agree with you.

Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."

by chirop1 on Jun 27, 2008 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not that it means anything,..

... but apparently Evan Hilbert over at KSR agrees with me. http://blog.kentuckysportsradio.com/?p=6491 I’ve been wrong before (a lot) but I think someone ought to give the guy a chance.

by Acdixon on Jun 27, 2008 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Someone

I think someone will give him a chance. I think he deserves a shot at the NBA based on his college career and if I were a GM I could sign him to come to my summer league and training camp and cut him lose if it didnt work out. At this point no one has anything to lose by giving him at least a look.

DEEETROIT BASKETBALLL!!!

by davw83 on Jun 27, 2008 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

UK Took 4 Guards In 2004 Class

Patrick Sparks got a scholarship in 2004 after being a walk-on in 2003.

UK signed Ramel Bradley, Rajon Rondo, and Joe Crawford in 2004.

by FortyYearCatFan on Jun 28, 2008 7:26 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Crawford has his work cut out for him...

I think JC will be able to play in the pros but not on the Lakers. They are young and talented. Crawford is no comparison to McCarty. McCarty is an inside player that had range. Joe is purely a perimeter player that could get to the hoop in college (not so sure in the pros). Two completely different styles of game and size. Bogans is a comparison I have been making for years. Similar size, strength and game. While Vujacic is not much a defender, Crawford hasn’t been considered a lock down defender either. If he concentrates on consistent defense he will stick around the NBA because he can score as well.

by SevenRings on Jun 27, 2008 11:36 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The question

The question was whose career will Joe’s most resemble, not who’s game his most resembles. As I said above, his game is unquestionably more like Bogans, but his career seems to be headed the same way as McCarty’s IMO.

by Acdixon on Jun 27, 2008 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

High hopes...

seems the majority think as in “Bogans”.

Good luck Joe C.

by kykat51 on Jul 1, 2008 9:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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