Could Gillispie have done more to save Jasper?
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Since the torturously long dissolution process of the Derrick Jasper -UK marriage is finally over, I have been left to ponder whether Billy Gillispie and Mitch Barnhart exhausted all efforts to retain young Mr. Jasper? We UK fans are now left to hope for a qualifying score for DeAndre Liggins, or the sudden emergence of an, as yet, unproven "lead" guard candidate. If neither one of those scenarios plays out, a long and fruitless season could soon be upon us. Jasper staying in Lexington was of vital interest of all UK fans, or at least those who are interested in winning.
The reason most given for Jasper's departure was his apparent homesickness. Certainly one can understand a kid longing for home and all that home brings. I find no fault with Jasper, I wish him only the best (unless he plays against UK). I just wish that the UK basketball staff had reached out to Jasper a bit more afffectively. Oh, I'm sure they attempted to convince Jasper that Kentucky was the place for him, and that they could win a championship together, and all that jazz. I mean did they REACH out to him? Really let him know that they care?
I would have thought that an offer to relocate Jasper's family to Kentucky would have solved the entire conflict. Jasper could be close to his family, and he could still hoop it up for UK (they don't call me "problem solver" for nothing). How much effort would that have taken? Perhaps Gillispie and Barnhart aren't entrepreneurial enough to satisfy the demands of their respective positions.
All Barnhart would have had to have done is make a couple of phone calls. If Mitch would have only called Luther Deaton , or maybe CM Gatton . I'm sure both of the big-shot boosters would have been happy to contact there "plane provider", donors of note friends. With Kentucky related business connections, and real estate holdings at the Jaspers disposal, surely a fine home and good jobs could have been lined up. And if the Jaspers didn't desire to work, well, something could have been done to accomodate that request as well.
One big happy Jasper family, located in Lexington (or any city of their choosing). If only Barnhart and Gillispie were as dedicated to winning as say ... Tim Floyd and USC. They sure went the distance for OJ Mayo . Allowing the boy-wonder from Huntington, West Virginia to live life to its fullest is commendable. I always wondered why Mayo attempted to "raise his profile" by playing for the Trojans. Most would think that North Carolina, Kansas, or Kentucky would raise the profile of a hot shot college basketball player much more than playing for USC. Ahh, such illumination now.
Barnhart and Gillispie could have also offered a consultants position to Kelvin Sampson. The least Sampson could do is make a few calls on UK's behalf. Afterall, Indiana just paid him 750k to abandon ship, so he had nothing better to do. And surely Sampson, with enough monetary encouragement, would have completed almost any task at the behest of his paymaster. He could have proven to be quite the commodity; teaching Gillispie new and inventive ways to beat the cell phone companies, for example. An even more important, and useful purpose Sampson could have served, would have been to teach Gillispie how NOT to lie to Myles Brand's henchmen. Because we all know that when one is willing to do whatever it takes to win, eventually the Enforcement Committee wants to do lunch.
I don't know. After more in-depth study and "ponderations", I'm thinking that NOT blowing up the rule book may be the best way to go. Surely one can't blatantly make a laughing stock of NCAA Regulations without expecting to get caught. Isn't it just understoood that people will talk? Some talk sooner, some talk later, but eventually someone will tweet, tweet, tweet, like a canary. As we have witnessed many times over, conspiratorial behavior usually ends badly for all.
So maybe I'm glad Gillispie and Barnhart displayed enough scruples not to bend or break the rules in dealing with Jasper. How smart does one need to be to realize that a pathological breaking of the rules eventually stops. Usually with the removal of the offensive personality from the profession he so degrades. Is one recruit or player worth a career? Worth millions of dollars? Worth being labeled a "cheater"?
Not in my world.
Of course Gillispie could transform himself into a slight, spectacled, fatherly coach who speaks in sonnets, and uses catchy phraseology. If Billy can accomplish that feat, he could get away with anything.
Thanks for reading, and Go 'Cats!
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I Think UK Will Be Fine
Meeks will get most of the minutes at SG and Galloway / Porter share PG minutes.
If Liggins gains his eligibility, UK will be More Than Fine at the guard position.
by FortyYearCatFan on Jun 2, 2008 7:14 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
A Modest Proposal
Nice article Ken… I half expected you to try and solve the hunger problem by suggesting that we eat babies.
Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."
by chirop1 on Jun 2, 2008 8:21 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yes
Much like Swift’s Proposal, I didn’t realize this was a satire until I was half-way through. I was about to write an angry comment until I saw Sampson’s name mentioned.
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by Mr. Bob Dobalina on Jun 2, 2008 9:26 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Confession
I had the benefit of having Swift’s “Proposal” set up ahead of time by a Humanities professor, but like you, I got halfway through this post before I realized it was satire. I wasn’t going to admit it because I thought I was the only one, but since you already did, I’ll own up as well.
by Acdixon on Jun 2, 2008 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Eating babies
I would never condone the eating of babies. Although some of the folks referenced in my piece might be good “whether stewed, roasted, baked, or boiled.” :)
by Ken Howlett on Jun 2, 2008 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I read an article a few weeks ago...
...that talked about Jasper and his family being angry that, in their opinion, he was rushed back from his leg injury. Of course, there were no quotes so you have to take it with a grain of salt.
by btcoop71 on Jun 2, 2008 9:33 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Zollo has broken his leg
My inside sources have told me that Jerry Tipton has left over 53 voicemails with his parents saying essentially this, “I told you so!! The guy is an ASS!! If Vinny leg gets broken by just committing to UK, imagine what will happen when he suits up!!”
Still not a crook!
by TrickyD26 on Jun 2, 2008 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Broken Leg...
Anyone with any common sense knows that just because Zollo committed to UK did not cause his broken leg.
This kid has been playing AAU events for several years. Being a mother of a son that only played LL basketball, LL baseball and 1 year of Babe Ruth, swimming on the team here, football and golf in HS…I saw that it took a few years for him to develop, but that was in the late 80’s. He always complained about his legs hurting…growing pains. He never reached his full maturity growth until after high school in the Navy.
But kids today, their bodies grow so much faster at an earlier age and I don’t know why. My grandson is over 6ft with a 16 size shoe and only 15. No interest in sports, computer geek.
I just think when their bodies are growing at this age, they are much more susceptible to broken bones and injuries.
by kykat51 on Jun 2, 2008 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You know the Tipton thing...
we don’t need more of his crap!
by kykat51 on Jun 2, 2008 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
From what I know
yes – teenagers are starting to grow (aka puberty) at an earlier age than previous decades and nobody quite knows why (one of the best guesses is that it has to do with the fact that more children and teenagers are obese these days too, but that wouldn’t be relevant to athletes).
However, the bones of teenagers should be more flexible/resilient than those of adults – they are more likely frequently getting injured (especially athletes) because of the frequency and intensity of high risk behaviors (like sports) is higher than in most age groups.
Not that this really matters, I just thought you (kycat) might be interested seeing as you brought up the subject.
waiting on a new banner being raised into the rafters of Rupp..........
by cdnWildcatfan on Jun 2, 2008 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think...
their bones are more susceptible to injury because they are still growing.
Son broke his collarbone during football practice before season started. But as I said, I know so many of these kids get developed so much earlier than 20 yrs ago. But I still believe in HS, these guys have a few years to develop their bone structure and, yes due to hard playing in early years, they are injured.
But I suppose it is the life of the athlete and the parents at this day and time.
by kykat51 on Jun 2, 2008 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He had back problems too..
due to riding a skateboard!...chirop will love this…that’s what the chiro said because he had one foot on the skateboard and one foot down….duh….I watched those kids in my driveway…when they got the speed, it was both feet on the board. Well needless to say, I did not pay for many chiro visits. Sorry chiro.
by kykat51 on Jun 2, 2008 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Both feet on the board
Meh. I don’t put a whole lot of faith in that sort of thing.. I always look at the totality of the situation. Generally poor posture, combined with poor biomechanics in everyday life, backpacks that weigh as much as the kid (combined with the fact that most kids carry these huge packs on one shoulder), coupled with a trauma or two will lead to the back pain most kids experience. (Although if you watch a kid skateboarding, they “propel” themselves with one foot.)
Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."
by chirop1 on Jun 3, 2008 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Only on ASOB
Basketball and medical information. What an eclectic mix we’ve got here on ASOB!
by Acdixon on Jun 3, 2008 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kids developing faster
One of the most prominent theories out there on kids developing faster is the sheer amount of hormones in our food. Honestly, have you ever seen a natural chicken with 10 pound boobs? We pump the chicken or cow full of hormones to maximize the food from it. Those hormones are then theorized to get into our food/milk and then pass along to our kids. Before you know it, you have fourth grade girls on their period.
Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."
by chirop1 on Jun 3, 2008 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I totally agree.....
too bad most North American researchers are reluctant to say that all the xeno-estrogens are having any effect at all on the population
waiting on a new banner being raised into the rafters of Rupp..........
by cdnWildcatfan on Jun 3, 2008 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jasper
You don’t really want to have to convince a guy to stay, do you? This was such a long and drawn out process that it was probably a net benefit for Jasper to leave (team distractions, heart not really in the right place, etc.) Unfortunately, the young man’s mind couldn’t be changed and that settled that.
Seemed like a good kid—best of luck, Derrick.
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by Gatorpilot on Jun 2, 2008 10:17 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
GP
Always good to “hear” from GP.
I hope things are going well. I just returned from Panama City where the sun is bright, the beach is sandy, and the … well, you know the rest.
by Ken Howlett on Jun 2, 2008 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, but
You don’t want to try and pressure a guy to stay if he doesn’t want to be there, but you also want to make sure he isn’t making an impulse decision. Opportunities to play for one of college basketball’s elite come only to a choice few. Some value them and make the most of them (Chuck Hayes); others squander them (Rekalin Sims).
I’m glad Jasper took the time to thoroughly weigh his options, and hope he’s made the best choice for him. (See my comment on the Jasper fanshot for more details about “best”.)
by Acdixon on Jun 2, 2008 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And...
Nobody has really mentioned, for quite a while at least, that players transferring out of programs that have had a recent coaching change in not at all uncommon – one and even two years after the change still. Perhaps the Kentcuky program he committed to is now so markedly different from 2 years ago that he simply doesn’t like it here as much as he used to.
waiting on a new banner being raised into the rafters of Rupp..........
by cdnWildcatfan on Jun 2, 2008 12:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I've got to do this,
with no disrespect to you, “Kentucky” as I could not stand to look at that. I have done the same thing at times when typing too fast .
You have a very good point there.
by kykat51 on Jun 2, 2008 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
fair enough correction!
thanx
waiting on a new banner being raised into the rafters of Rupp..........
by cdnWildcatfan on Jun 2, 2008 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Player transfers
Anyone notice what’s going on in Bloomington?
I guess we should be thankful such an exodus didn’t occur in Lexington.
by Ken Howlett on Jun 2, 2008 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes I have...
and we should be so thankful, but that was a completely different situation with UK vs Indiana.
Totally unrelated to this post, but are you and FGM able to update the newsfeed section? Very out of date, don’t you think?
Love your writings here.
by kykat51 on Jun 2, 2008 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re: kykat
No, I am unable to update the newsfeeds, but Tru will be on from time to time, and may update that section (I’m not sure if FGM or JL are “update capable”)
I appreciate your kind words. You have always been very complementary of the site and its writers. Thanks again.
by Ken Howlett on Jun 2, 2008 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Newsfeed Updates
Also, later on today, actually this early evening, I will provide links to some up-to-date UK related stories, on the front page.
by Ken Howlett on Jun 2, 2008 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh no problem...
I know Tru is on vacation in Hawaii and I know he his very busy with the islands and enjoying every minute.
And I also realize you and the FGM have young families from a previous post and cannot devote a lot of time here, but I do appreciate all you both have done here to make it the greatest UK site for me to visit.
by kykat51 on Jun 2, 2008 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Very Common
UK lost several in 1989 when Sutton was fired. Mostly because of pending NCAA sanctions, I’d guess.
UK lost a few when Pitino left but not for a year or two. All 3 asked to be released from their LOI but CM Newton refused to do so in 1997.
Legion, Jasper, Williams, maybe Coury. Not unsual to see players leave after a coaching change.
by FortyYearCatFan on Jun 2, 2008 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Does Legion count?
He was recruited by Gillispie, so his reasoning could not have been the coaching change.
Still not a crook!
by TrickyD26 on Jun 2, 2008 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I Think So
He was signed after a brief recruiting “courtship” by UK.
Neither he nor Gillispie really knew all that much about the other.
by FortyYearCatFan on Jun 2, 2008 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Coury???
I hadn’t heard anything about Coury, the thought of his leaving seems unfathomable to me… he certainly would not have experienced the playing time under Tubby that he got under Gillispie.
Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."
by chirop1 on Jun 2, 2008 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I read this
I also heard this, I believe on Matt Jones’ site. Best I recall, it was something not related to basketball. Maybe something about his course of study (or maybe I dreamed that.) Not a done deal yet, by any means, but possible.
by Acdixon on Jun 2, 2008 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
My recollection
from Matt Jones’ site was that Coury was considering a transfer for purely academic purposes. The general consensus is that he’s very smart and an impressive student, and he may be seeing that he is unlikely to have a career in basketball, and therefore the option to graduate from a prestigous school may be pulling at him (plus, starting almost every game for UK as a sophomore surely is one of those non-academic extracurricular activities that looks good on the ‘ol resume).
As long as he transfers Ivy League (that is, not to Duke, Vanderbilt, or other very academically good non-Ivy schools), I’m fine with it. I don’t even want to share academic prowess with Duke.
by blbskue on Jun 2, 2008 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He May Get A Scholarship Elsewhere
Would still be a walk-on at UK.
by FortyYearCatFan on Jun 2, 2008 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I bet....
Jasper would have stayed if Tubby was still here. (insert evil laugh) MUAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
by kentuckygirl0724 on Jun 2, 2008 12:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Jasper May Or May Not Have Stayed
But he definitely liked Tubby. He picked UK / Tubby over Memphis and others.
by FortyYearCatFan on Jun 2, 2008 2:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Just another quick thought.....
while this is totally unfounded and just me surmizing, I wonder if the following situation may have contributed at least somewhat in Jasper’s decision to leave:
Pehaps Jasper is thinking about his knee more than we think. Most of the time, it takes years before a knee that has undergone microfracture surgery to get back to 100%, if it ever does. Maybe Jasper actually wants to take a year off before playing his final 2 years in college so that rather on playing on a knee that is 95% good this year and 99% next year, he can rest his knee for a year (while working on his shot and avoiding BCGs frequent high intensity workouts) and comeback with a knee at 100% for two years. Transfering would be the only real way to accomplish this, as I cannot imagine him asking for and receiving a medical redshirt for the upcoming year. If Jasper has dreams of playing professionally in some capacity and feels that rushing back last year may have hurt his delevopment or delayed his recovery in some respects, maybe he decided it was time to look out for his own interests in the long run, as opposed to the interests of the Big Blue Nation this following year (esp. if Jasper did in fact feel underappreciated for his early comeback).
waiting on a new banner being raised into the rafters of Rupp..........
by cdnWildcatfan on Jun 2, 2008 4:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Personally,
I think the knee was likely 90% of the reason. I’m not sure I buy the line of thought that he transferred because he felt he was rushed back last year, but I do think he transferred because he wants to rest it for a year.
He might also think he could shoot 95% from 3 point range if he just had another year to practice his shot. Never know. . .
by blbskue on Jun 2, 2008 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Follow up suggested poll:
Continuing that general line of reasoning, and polling based on opinion only:
Would you rather:
1. Jasper sat/took a medical redshirt last season, completely rested his knee (and maybe spent some time with the fam), if it meant he stayed at UK for one or two more years (which may or may not have meant UK never had the SEC surge in ‘07-’08),
OR
2. The present situation?
by blbskue on Jun 2, 2008 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Definitely food for thought
Since we’re dealing in unfounded speculation, I imagine that it Jasper hadn’t come back, the season would have been much uglier than it already was last year. No resurgence would mean the lunatics in the fan base still calling for Coach G’s head, little media coverage (and the bulk of that negative), and missing the tournament. Would Coach still be getting the same recruits if the general tenor around the program were negative? I’m thinking no, and in that respect, the present situation may be preferable to having DJ back, even at full strength, for the upcoming year. That said, I already miss the guy. I agree that the knee played a part in this decision too. Not that I necessarily think Coach rushed DJ back, but DJ may have rushed himself back, recognizing that the team needed him.
Lots of mights and maybes. Let me go on record as the first UK fan on the internet who publicly declares “I have no connections. I know no one close to the program. I haven’t the foggiest idea what goes on behind closed doors at UK. All I know is what I read at ASOB (and KSR). I’m just guessing, and I could be wrong.” There, I said it; I feel better. :)
by Acdixon on Jun 2, 2008 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll be the second fan.
Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."
by chirop1 on Jun 2, 2008 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

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