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Now that A Sea of Blue has migrated to it's shiny new home with all the bells and whistles that can be imagined, I suppose I should start to do my job and talk a little bit about UK.

First off, the lingering hangover from the Tipton debacle.  Marc Maggard took me to task yesterday at his site, Kentucky Ink, for what I wrote about Jerry Tipton.  We exchanged a number of posts on his site, and ultimately agreed that I would appear on his radio show on Monday at 7:00 PM.  I still don't really know the procedure for doing this or where it can be heard, but I will update you on this as I have time to figure it out.

For just a little more on the story, AOL Fanhouse's Michael David Smith has thoughts.  Too bad he didn't read my recent post on the subject.  Or maybe he did.  Who knows?

Moving on to real UK news, Matt Jones had this interesting comment today on his blog:

(2): Billy Clyde was on the Scott Van Pelt show and said that UK would honor commitments of young players, regardless of their development. That means that if Avery, Zollo, Miller, Euton, etc dont develop, they still will be coming to UK. That is good from an ethical standpoint, but sure puts a LOT of pressure on the staff to identify talent early on.

Now, those of you who know my thoughts on this subject probably realize that this kind of thing makes me a bigger and bigger fan of Coach Gillispie.  What he is saying here is that he will keep his word.  That means a lot to me, and aught to stand as a shining example to the rest of the coaches taking early commitments.  How 'bout it, 'Ol Roy, Tim Floyd and the rest of you college coaches out there?  Jump on that band wagon and make us all proud.

John Clay has a story over at his blog Sidelines which brings to our attention the fact that Billy Donovan still hasn't signed his contract extension.  Donovan's excuse?

Donovan has changed attorneys since the extension was negotiated, which has played a part in the delay.

Ah.  OK then.  But wouldn't it be cool if Gillispie beat him to the punch?

Lots of thoughts over the last few days on committing young.  I'll just link dump these and you can read them if you're interested, and haven't:

  • KU Sports
  • Courier-Journal -- Eric Crawford
  • Rivals -- Jerry Meyer (free)
  • Arizona Republic
  • Armchair GM
  • I need to make a post on Jon Hood, which I will soon, I promise ...

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    UPDATE:  The Big Lead links us in a story about Tipton.

    UPDATE 05/08 3:16PM:  The Cats Pause is reporting that Gillispie will have a press conference tomorrow morning.  Nobody is sure why.

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    Tru V.S Maggard

    I cant find Maggard’s comments about you, Tru. I was really interested in seeing them. Also, I am very interested in the radio broadcast so PLEASE do keep us posted on that. You seem very well known around the basketball circuit, do you mind if I ask how this came to be?

    by kentuckygirl0724 on May 9, 2008 12:10 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

    They are ...

    ... in the recruiting forum under a thread called “Dear ‘aseaofblue’”.

    I am not that well-known. I inherited this blog when JL Blue became to busy with life to keep it up, and I have just been doing my thing ever since. I don’t speak to recruits, I’m not an insider or anything like that, I’m just a guy with a soap box and an opinion.

    Ain’t the Internet wonderful? :-)

    A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan

    by Truzenzuzex on May 9, 2008 12:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

    Found it

    I read through the whole thread – pretty rough. I really worry about the radio show…..but I wish you luck and give you my full support for whatever thats worth. I dont know what you hope to gain/accomplish for going on – he sounds like a bit of a tyrant to me. Once mind is set, stays that way, you know. I am proud of you, though, for standing up for yourself and your site.

    by kentuckygirl0724 on May 9, 2008 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

    Thanks ...

    ... I don’t fear other UK fans, even ones as arrogant as Marc came off in that thread. He probably isn’t that way in real life - I hope not - but I am ready for anything.

    A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan

    by Truzenzuzex on May 9, 2008 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

    Doubt

    I seriously doubt that someone that is not arrogant sounds anything remotely like that. I know that you arent “afraid,” nor do I think there is any reason to be, I just have a feeling he is not as inclined to “keep it classy” as you do here. You will be great though – I hope I am able to tune in.

    by kentuckygirl0724 on May 10, 2008 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

    You deserve more credit than that...

    I have been visiting this website for over a year. I visit any UK website I can for UK info but this site consistently has the most positive stories followed by the most positive comments. I will continue to go to the other sites for info but If I want to find a site that I agree with on just about everything UK, it is this one.
    Keep up the good work!

    UK has the greatest fans in the world!

    by GoCats on May 9, 2008 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

    Thanks.

    I really appreciate the vote of confidence, but only half as much as I appreciate you and the rest for being members of our site. It is you guys that make it what it is—trust me on that.

    A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan

    by Truzenzuzex on May 9, 2008 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

    I find

    ... that it seems like this Maggard guy is just a big crybaby over anyone critizing him (which I did not really think you did) and who doesn’t have time to read that much text? How long does that take?..5 mins, tops? Unless you read at a third grade level. Jesus.

    Anyway, you rule Tru. Thanks for all that you do.

    by adamblowers on May 9, 2008 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

    Thanks ...

    ... but I personally wouldn’t be so hard on Maggard. Misunderstandings happen in the on-line world, and he does very good work. He is also surely entitled to his opinion, even if it doesn’t seem to make sense when taken in the context of what I wrote.

    But thank you for your kind words. I appreciate them.

    A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan

    by Truzenzuzex on May 10, 2008 7:56 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

    Couldn't agree more about Coach

    I completely admire a man who will honor his word. I’m sure I can count on you Tru to hold him to this should there be any issues regarding this promise in the future…

    Also, love the new look. Makes life much easier not having to hit refresh every 5 minutes here at work!

    Still not a crook!

    by TrickyD26 on May 9, 2008 12:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

    It does ...

    ... help a lot posting in the threads.

    And yeah, if Gillispie goes back on his word, I’ll be on him like white on rice on a paper plate with a glass of milk in a snowstorm. :-)

    A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan

    by Truzenzuzex on May 9, 2008 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

    Also...

    I’m really digging this sweet nixon icon!

    Still not a crook!

    by TrickyD26 on May 9, 2008 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

    It's ...

    ... so you!

    I remember him well.

    A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan

    by Truzenzuzex on May 9, 2008 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

    Love the new site...

    and just wanted to post my first comment. Keep up the good work and I too am glad that BCG will honor his commitments.

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    by hoopchi on May 9, 2008 1:08 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

    Recruiting

    After reading all of the commentary, from KU Sports-Armchair GM, and hearing what ESPN, and most other major media outlets have to say, I’ve found a common denominator in most of them. The all say recruiting 8th graders and freshmen is bad, but none of these guys have seen these kids play! Avery reportedly purported himself well against MAJOR upperclassman talent. Everybody has been jumping on the Billie-Bash Bandwagon, without the benefit of the facts. I seriously doubt that Billie Clyde is handing out offers all “willy-nilly”.

    by racercat98 on May 9, 2008 1:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

    Exactly.

    Avery and Zollo both have serious game.

    Still not a crook!

    by TrickyD26 on May 9, 2008 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

    Yeah ...

    ... you know, I think it’s a visceral reaction. I had the same one, but I am actually coming around a bit.

    A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan

    by Truzenzuzex on May 9, 2008 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

    Its the nature of the beast.

    Anytime that something new is done for the first time it is overreacted about. I think that these young men have some serious game because otherwise they wouldnt be recruited by THE COLLEGE BASKETBALL ELITE.

    By the way, I went over to the card chronicle, and I want to thank you Tru. This site is not dedicated to UofL bashing like theirs is for us. I mean, they sound like a RED headed stepchild who has always had to live in the older brothers shadow, and they think they are smarter, and better, but their frusteration only shows through because deep down inside they know they arent even in the same league…. oh wait…. they are Kentucky’s red headed step child.

    by KingKentucky on May 9, 2008 2:47 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

    Good Bashing

    My wife picked up a T shirt the other day that said on the front “What’s the difference between a Dynasty and a Wannabe?”

    The back of it said “About 76 miles and 5 championships” and it had a map of Kentucky on it. Ha!

    You ever see that movie Star Wars? People tell me I look like Han Solo.-Reed Rothchild,Boogie Nights

    by chirop1 on May 9, 2008 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

    Yeah ...

    ... they really enjoy whacking on UK over there. I had to defend myself at some length over there a few days back. Tough crowd for a Kentucky fan, but just like us, they have their reasonables and their unreasonables. It’s the same everywhere.

    A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan

    by Truzenzuzex on May 9, 2008 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

    Maggard's Radio Show

    Tru, this is the link to the show’s site

    www.talkshoe.com/tc/18884

    Suggest you pre-register under your username prior to Monday night. Then just sign in to the site around 7:00 (? – not sure of the time).

    by rockatao on May 9, 2008 3:00 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

    Thanks a lot ...

    I appreciate that. I am looking forward to it. In fact, I plan on asking our users to tune in if they have time, so it should be a great audience and hopefully fun will be had by all.

    A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan

    by Truzenzuzex on May 9, 2008 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

    Maggard

    Go give Maggard the business Tru. I dont dislike the man but Im not a huge fan.

    DEEETROIT BASKETBALLL!!!

    by davw83 on May 9, 2008 3:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

    Hopefully ...

    ... that won’t be necessary. Just a nice discussion about a shared passion.

    A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan

    by Truzenzuzex on May 9, 2008 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

    The Big Lead

    Wow – read the comments below that story. Makes me want to take up my mighty Bluegrass sword and defender our fair state.

    by blbskue on May 9, 2008 3:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

    Ah ...

    ... I say fuggitaboudit. Bunch of lamers. :-)

    The Big Lead is a good blog, though.

    A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan

    by Truzenzuzex on May 9, 2008 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

    WTF

    Is the comment by Jackieyi???? I assume some nice BOT work there.

    by blbskue on May 9, 2008 3:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

    Indeed

    But I’m glad it is a diverse BOT and accepting of both white and black folk!

    You ever see that movie Star Wars? People tell me I look like Han Solo.-Reed Rothchild,Boogie Nights

    by chirop1 on May 9, 2008 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

    Thanks ...

    ... for bringing that to my attention, guys. He has been rewarded for his … effort. :-)

    A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan

    by Truzenzuzex on May 9, 2008 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

    Huh?

    What happened??? I’ve been posting over at Jackieyi’s site since I saw the comment?!? Where am I/?

    J/K. WIth the site’s new sweet look, I’m sure it’s a bigger pull for the BOTS.

    by blbskue on May 9, 2008 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

    Probably ...

    ... just part of the deal.

    A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan

    by Truzenzuzex on May 9, 2008 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

    Like I wrote...

    ...in another thread, Maggard comes off like an ass on the site but he’s very pro-UK and I don’t doubt that the players parents really did say some troubling things about Tipton. Tipton has a track record of wanted to be more “edgy” than “fair.”

    by Clandestine on May 9, 2008 3:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

    Very true.

    Very. Tipton has no doubt done some things to earn the reproof of UK fans. Assuming everything that Marc was told was exactly true, in context as stated, this is still just one more in a long line.

    A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan

    by Truzenzuzex on May 9, 2008 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

    Press Conference

    I’m going to go out on a limb and guess this has something to do with Jasper.

    Still not a crook!

    by TrickyD26 on May 9, 2008 3:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

    Ugggh

    Does anyone really think at this point that it could be good news? And if Jasper were staying would it warrant a press conference?

    Could Gillispie also be planning to talk about the state of recruiting in general without discussing specific players?

    You ever see that movie Star Wars? People tell me I look like Han Solo.-Reed Rothchild,Boogie Nights

    by chirop1 on May 9, 2008 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

    Presser

    My very optimistic hope is that it’s about Williams’ transfer. I’m sure he’s a great guy, but I think it’s in both his and the team’s best interest for him to seek PT elsewhere.

    by Acdixon on May 9, 2008 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

    There he is!

    I was wondering where you were.

    The latest I have heard about Williams is that he has been given a release to transfer anywhere he wants, but has not decided where or if he wants to go.

    A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan

    by Truzenzuzex on May 9, 2008 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

    I'm not dead!

    Nice to know I was missed. I’ve had a training conference call all day. I’m just in a break right now. Kudos on the new site. As a webmaster, I knew the AJAX stuff would make it better, but I had no idea how much better.

    by Acdixon on May 9, 2008 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

    Yeah ...

    ... it is pretty darn cool. Quite the change from Scoop. Glad you approve.

    A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan

    by Truzenzuzex on May 9, 2008 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

    Could be.

    Nobody seems to know. Probably a combination of several things, but the potential transfers of Jasper and Williams will certainly be brought up.

    A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan

    by Truzenzuzex on May 9, 2008 3:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

    Transfers

    My vote is he will be talking about that.

    Tru, I feel you will do well with MM.

    Changing how you think will change what you think.

    by wilson452 on May 9, 2008 4:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

    Hopefully ...

    ... we will both do well for our respective members.

    A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan

    by Truzenzuzex on May 9, 2008 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

    I'm a Member of both, so...

    ...I hope you both do well and in the end the winner is… UK!

    8^)

    by Clandestine on May 10, 2008 9:24 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

    Hopefully

    Gillispie just speaks about the incoming class.

    Of course, it being a Saturday, odds are against that.

    by piketaylor on May 9, 2008 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

    Z key

    Man, that Z key shortcut for the unread comments is COOL

    by cthom on May 9, 2008 4:45 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

    It does ...

    make things a lot more convenient.

    A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan

    by Truzenzuzex on May 9, 2008 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

    Yeah!

    The Z key is awesome!

    by EEWildcat on May 9, 2008 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

    Unsure

    Just checking in on the new look..not sure if this old dog can be taught new tricks…...good to know the content will remain the same!! GO BIG BLUE!

    by Magnoliacat on May 9, 2008 6:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

    Testing

    Bingo above!

    Me 2.

    by FortyYearCatFa on May 9, 2008 7:46 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

    Oh no, your name got clipped!

    We don’t want people thinking you’re FourtyYearCatFart!

    by EEWildcat on May 9, 2008 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

    History

    In 1963 The Wildcat team averaged 13.3 farts a game.

    During Rick Pitino’s tenure, the team averaged 18.5 farts a game.

    In 2001 versus North Carolina, Tayshawn Prince led the Wildcats in farts with 12.

    The Online Home of the Big Blue Nation...

    by TheFakeGimelMartinez on May 9, 2008 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

    Okay, that was awesome

    Funniest FakeGimel posting to date!

    by EEWildcat on May 10, 2008 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

    ROFL

    You ever see that movie Star Wars? People tell me I look like Han Solo.-Reed Rothchild,Boogie Nights

    by chirop1 on May 10, 2008 8:49 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

    Typical Snow Job By Service Providers (Not Your Fault)

    Every time I’ve ever seen a website or blog convert to a New and Improved format, it winds up New but NOT Improved. Every one I can think of is worse.

    by FortyYearCatFan on May 9, 2008 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

    Oh come on!

    You didn’t like my tribute to you, 40YCF? :(

    The Online Home of the Big Blue Nation...

    by TheFakeGimelMartinez on May 10, 2008 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

    A few nice new features though

    My only real complaint is the fixed width layout. The z-button mitigates the problem slightly though – that thing is like crack. If they would fix that, I would say it is better.

    by EEWildcat on May 10, 2008 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

    Girth

    What, is the wide layout not wide enough for you? (You know, on the individual story pages, you can choose a wide layout. Why they didn’t save the wide layout settings for the whole site is below my pay grade.)

    I would have preferred a flexible-width layout with a min size. I do know that doing that and having 50+ other blogs that do different things will be difficult to implement.

    The Online Home of the Big Blue Nation...

    by TheFakeGimelMartinez on May 10, 2008 12:53 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

    Yes

    Wide layout isn’t wide enough. It should just fit the browser window like old ASoB, KSR, etc.

    by EEWildcat on May 10, 2008 8:58 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

    I'd prefer ...

    the wide layout to be wider, as well. I’m sure this will be considered going forward. The site layouts are likely to be changed after the migration of all the blogs is complete.

    A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan

    by Truzenzuzex on May 10, 2008 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

    Sweet

    Cool, I’m glad we agree…

    Here’s a reference if you need some ammo. There is a lot more deadspace in the new layout. (scaled to 50%)
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    As you can see the text in the “white” space (actual content) is like 1/3 less in the new layout. The left and right margins in the white area are bigger (okay, aesthetics, fine). The right margin in the text is way bigger: the user icon is a whole column, not just an inset picture that the text wraps around – there is no text under it – you can’t see by this screenshot though, but look at some other posts below (meh). The right sidebar is bigger (okay, I can deal) but then we have the gray space, which is totally dead (not a fan). All this added up makes for a lot of deadspace and extra scrolling! And of course, if I was actually using the full screen, it would be really ridiculous.

    Anyway, like I said, otherwise the upgrade is awesome, in my experience. Sorry to hear FortyYear is having issues though 8’(

    by EEWildcat on May 10, 2008 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

    technically

    something can’t be new AND improved…only new OR improved.

    GO BIG BLUE!! GO BIG BLUE!!

    by UKWildCatFanatic on May 10, 2008 12:55 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

    Well ...

    ... the one constant in the world is change. I will be happy to try to address the problems you have if you will identify them to me. You can also post a comment in the “welcome” post below describing it, and the powers-that-be will try to help you out.

    I have no choice in the matter, and I would choose this new format even if I did. It is technically far superior in every measurable metric, much easier to manage for me than the old format, and I find it to be a far superior blogging experience, although I appreciate that not everyone will agree. This platform has been extensively tested, but it is not by any means bug free, and as all bits of software are, is a work in progress. Those having difficulty will get my full support and sincere efforts to resolve any problems you have. That’s all I can offer, and I offer that willingly and unreservedly.

    A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan

    by Truzenzuzex on May 10, 2008 8:01 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

    Maggard

    Marc reminds me of an old Southern Baptist politician railing against criminals and the deformed. He loudly denounces that which obviously won’t be able to mount much of a defense, yet you have to be blind not to notice the self-serving purposes of his ubiquitous grandstanding. Marc has a business interest in UK’s success. He has insinuated himself into UK’s recruiting despite having absolutely no training or experience on the subject. His claim to fame is that he has been “paid” by colleges for his “information” but why? Why would a major Division I school pay someone with no background, training, or experience in the game? Are we to believe he just one day declared himself to be a “scout” and as a result he started getting paid?

    I don’t get it? Actually, I do. This is clearly and obviously a front that he hopes will somehow snowball into something. A baseless heap of ever increasing claims about himself.

    So he hops up on his fabricated reputation and he lays into Tipton. Maybe Tipton deserves it, maybe he don’t. Once thing is certain, Maggard is not doing this to “help” or “protect” UK, Maggard is going this to further his own delusions in a long and relentless effort to insinuate himself into the UK program. History suggests that people like this will eventually turn on their object of desire, and my prediction is that one day he will turn on UK viciously in favor of say… Tennessee… then attempt to make a name for himself as a critic of our program once his tawdry advances are finally definitively rebuffed.

    "Never, never, never believe any war will be smooth and easy, or that anyone who embarks on the strange voyage can measure the tides and hurricanes he will encounter. The statesman who yields to war fever must realize that once the signal is given, he is no longer the master of policy but the slave of unforeseeable and uncontrollable events. " -- Sir Winston Churchill

    by Crow on May 9, 2008 10:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

    Well ...

    ... I am unqualified to comment on that. All I see is a man running a website and involving himself in the recruiting process, much like Matt Jones does. I’m sure there are many differences, and everybody theoretically has some plan for the future of their work. I can’t blame Maggard for trying to do something he wants to do, and quite frankly, it sure would be nice if I could afford to spend all my time chasing down recruits and watching basketball. I guess you could say that I am a little jealous.

    But as far as A Sea of Blue is concerned, all I care about is producing a good place for Wildcat fans to have an honest discussion about their favorite team without fear of mockery or juvenile absurdity. This site is intended to be for adults, and young people with a mature attitude. Many sites are happy to take anyone, but here, we don’t really suffer the absurdly foolish, the profane, the drive-by or those with less than two brain cells to rub together. We welcome discussion, debate, and disagreement but we require that it be conducted after the manner of mature adults and not teen-agers.

    I think other sites are no so discerning, but I don’t mean to cast aspersions on them. Whatever works for them. I know this works for us.

    :-)

    A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan

    by Truzenzuzex on May 10, 2008 8:13 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

    Nope

    Sure it’s your opinion, but you’re way off on Maggard. Marc is absolutely pro-UK.

    by Clandestine on May 10, 2008 9:27 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

    I'm No Fan Of Maggard Going Back To Josh Carrier Incident In Summer Of 2000

    Maggard got UK in hot water with NCAA during recruiting of Josh Carrier by misreporting what took place on a visit by Tubby to Bowling Green in July 2000. NCAA got wind of it and UK had to appeal. (UK won the appeal but it would never have happened if Maggard had not misreported what took place – Tubby got dinged for illegal contact when it wasn’t)

    UK has 7 commitments for future recruiting classes in 2009, 2010, 2011, and 2012. UK is also in the national Buzz right now. Both are what Gillispie hoped to achieve, I think.

    Quoting Bob Gibbons of ESPN:

    ESPN’s National Recruiting Director Bob Gibbons…went on to comment on the recent rash of early commitments to Kentucky. “Coach Gillispie said that he was ‘trying to create a buzz at Kentucky’, and he has now received his third early commitment during the past week, and the fourth in the last ten days,” Gibbons said. The recruits include class of 2010 forward Dominique Ferguson (Indianapolis, Ind.), class of 2011 forward Vinnie Zollo (Greenfield, Ohio) and class of 2012 guard Michael Avery (Lake Sherwood, Calif.). “These extremely early commitments only add to the growing numbers that are happening around the nation, as both young players and colleges appear to be rushing to make their recruiting decisions as soon as possible. According to Jerry Tipton, a journalist for the Lexington Herald-Leader, the Kentucky President recently said that ‘they are trying to build a pipeline’ at UK. Obviously, they are accomplishig their goals but early pipelines have a tendency to spring a leak,” Gibbons noted.

    by FortyYearCatFan on May 10, 2008 9:18 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

    Beas Hamga

    The circumstances involving Marc and Beas Hamga need to be looked at as well. Marc got the whole “facebook/Myspace” posting fiasco started on his own website where he instructed his posters to spread that news on all the UK websites, then he turned around and claimed he tried to cover it all up and protect UK. Then “somebody” went to Hamga’s AAU coach (a person Marc bragged about knowing) and pointed out all the postings to them. Then of course it was all pointed out to the Louisville Courier Journal.

    Keep in mind all of this was right smack in the middle of the signing period for recruits. So this idea that Marc “protects” UK is a joke and all one needs to do is review the history of his actions as opposed to his words to see what his true motives are.

    His “pimping” of Leonard Washington should have raised eyebrows. His blogs on Scotty Hopson were so inaccurate that the Hopson family actually contacted Kentucky Ink which lead to the infamous “Hopsons reach out to Kentucky Ink” blog.

    Finally, at a recruiting event Marc bragged about showing a recruit UK message boards whereby they had a big laugh at the postings. That’s something he’s not supposed to be doing.

    To sum it all up, as Tru says he has no problem with novices trying to insinuate themselves into the program, but there are very real problems with these amatures potentially causing UK big problems and at a minimum the program needs to distance themselves from their activities and ensure media access does not imply the University approves of their actions.

    "Never, never, never believe any war will be smooth and easy, or that anyone who embarks on the strange voyage can measure the tides and hurricanes he will encounter. The statesman who yields to war fever must realize that once the signal is given, he is no longer the master of policy but the slave of unforeseeable and uncontrollable events. " -- Sir Winston Churchill

    by Crow on May 10, 2008 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

    Very valid points

    The interaction of random fans from Pikesville to Paintsville with potential recruits through the internet portals like Facebook and Myspace is (IMO) one of the most pressing concerns in recruiting today. Whether its inappropriate contact like what happened with Patterson last year that the university had to self-report or general negativity like that surrounding Dakotah Euton, nothing good can come from turning us largely ignorant fans loose on the recruiting world. (Remember… ignorant just means that we do not have the information. Its different from being stupid.)

    Marc Maggard and his ilk are often just the face of the anonymous internet fan that causes recruiting dust-ups like those mentioned by FortyYearCatFart (hee hee hee) and Crow.

    You ever see that movie Star Wars? People tell me I look like Han Solo.-Reed Rothchild,Boogie Nights

    by chirop1 on May 10, 2008 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

    When I say ...

    ... I have no problems with it, I mean in the sense that others are free to pursue whatever legitimate efforts they want to glean and publish information, and format their website as they see fit.

    As far as situations where a person running a website may interfere with UK’s recruiting, or even cause a violation, I am against that. But what I see here is an opinion of a person, and I try to draw conclusions like this on verifiable facts. Because of that, I’m incapable of offering an intelligent opinion of whether Maggard is doing good or ill. Not only that, at this point I have your comments, but I don’t have Maggard’s point of view on those same events. Therefore, I’m not willing to cast aspersions on anyone without fairly hearing both sides of the argument. This was a substantial amount of the rub I had with Maggard over my post that he commented on over at Kentucky Ink.

    In sum, I don’t know whether your points are true or not - not because I think you would dissemble, but because I have nothing to test them against - links, comments from other reputable sources—you know the drill. I don’t doubt your word, but I hope you’ll forgive me for wanting more before I make the same judgment of him you seem to have made.

    A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan

    by Truzenzuzex on May 10, 2008 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

    Try E-Mailing Sandy Bell And Put "Marc Maggard" In Your Subject Line

    You’ll get a prompt reply. UK is well aware of him and the potential problem(s) he creates for UK.

    by FortyYearCatFan on May 10, 2008 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

    Maggard Not The Only One

    A poster (Indymicats on the old KSR when it was on Rivals) did something similar involving Darius Rice. Had he picked UK (Instead of Miami FL) there would have been NCAA issues involving his role. Old news and beyond statute of limitations. I know the name but don’t know the gentleman personally.

    Similar involvement by a UK fan living in Charlotte on the Jason Parker recruiting saga in summer of 2000. Made contact with Parker family when he would be considered a UK booster. That’s illegal contact. I know this gentleman personally and he meant no harm. But had the NCAA known, this would have been a potential NCAA issue.

    by FortyYearCatFan on May 10, 2008 9:50 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

    Indeed ...

    ... and that is part of the reason I want no real part of this whole recruit interview business. Blogs and blog owners seem an indisputable part of the media to me, and therefore they should be immune to being considered to have violated the NCAA ban on boosters contacting recruits.

    But others hold a different view, and quite frankly, I fear the NCAA would side with the perception that most bloggers are closer to boosters than media. Whether or not I agree with that assessment is irrelevant—I don’t want to become the subject of an NCAA investigation, or to be somehow implicated in costing Kentucky a valuable recruit or even wind up causing sanctions to come down on UK because of my actions.

    Other people, like Maggard, evidently disagree and are comfortable with their role, rightly or wrongly. It is neither in my interest nor the interests of the University of Kentucky for me to insert myself as an arbiter of this matter, and in any case I don’t consider myself qualified to do so. I encourage others to take the same viewpoint—it’s less upsetting to the liver when you don’t have to fear becoming part of the problem.

    But with all that said, there is a huge market for recruiting information out there—just as Rivals. That market will draw Marc Maggards until it is somehow either shut down or formally legitimized.

    A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan

    by Truzenzuzex on May 10, 2008 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

    NCAA to Investigate A Sea of Blue...

    More at 11.

    You ever see that movie Star Wars? People tell me I look like Han Solo.-Reed Rothchild,Boogie Nights

    by chirop1 on May 10, 2008 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

    Likely to be ...

    ... Really, really short. :-)

    A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan

    by Truzenzuzex on May 10, 2008 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

    Troubleshooters

    I’d pay good money to see Tru awkwardly try to avoid questions with Dawn Gee.

    Additionally entertaining would be to see Gary Rodemire attempt to pronounce Truzenzuzex.

    You ever see that movie Star Wars? People tell me I look like Han Solo.-Reed Rothchild,Boogie Nights

    by chirop1 on May 10, 2008 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

    I met Dawn in a restaurant once ...

    ... and she put maybe 50 bags of sugar in her ice tea. She asked the waitress to bring her more, because all the packets in the one of those little black holders were not even half enough for her.

    By the time she got done, you could have filled an office trash can with the remains of all the sugar packets she used. I would estimate at least a full cup of sugar was used in approximately 12-14 oz. of ice tea. I can scarcely imagine taking a sip from such a slurry.

    Yes, I fear her. Anyone who uses that much sugar in anything should be feared. If she were to interview me, all I would be able to think about is all that sugar … :-)

    A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan

    by Truzenzuzex on May 10, 2008 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

    Dawn Gee and the sugar

    To you it just looked like she was using a lot of sugar, in actuality I’m quite certain there was a hidden camera investigation into how the owners of the restaurant were causing poor old women to work slave labor in their kitchen and then forcing them to live in substandard housing near the airport.

    The sugar was just a clever cover.

    You ever see that movie Star Wars? People tell me I look like Han Solo.-Reed Rothchild,Boogie Nights

    by chirop1 on May 10, 2008 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

    Naivete ...

    ... is a curse.

    :-)

    A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan

    by Truzenzuzex on May 10, 2008 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

    Seriously?

    These kind of issues are in play at every University across the country.

    Our problem is that UK has more fans than most and more fanatical that probably all. That’s more illegal contact to manage, unfortunately.

    by Clandestine on May 11, 2008 8:35 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

    One Of The Recruits In 2004 Class Was Declared Ineligible To Attend UK By NCAA

    Because of illegal contact from boosters (UK fans). UK successfully appealed to the NCAA and the player attended UK. But there are serious ramifications from such contact.

    by FortyYearCatFan on May 11, 2008 9:21 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

    recruit

    which one?

    GO BIG BLUE!! GO BIG BLUE!!

    by UKWildCatFanatic on May 11, 2008 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

    ok

    now i know…thanks. i had never heard about the contact or appeal, but this before i spent half my waking hours here. :)

    GO BIG BLUE!! GO BIG BLUE!!

    by UKWildCatFanatic on May 11, 2008 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

    That is ...

    ... absolutely true.

    But the NCAA tends to pay attention to boosters that actually contribute funds to the university and are accused of either trying to convince a player to attend their college, or providing an illegal benefit. Not just contact.

    Sandy Bell has taken the position that anyone who has ever said “Go Big Blue” meets the NCAA definition of a booster, but with all due respect to her and her position, that it patently absurd. If I, who don’t meet any of the NCAA requirements for being a booster except for the nebulous one about ever having done anything to promote the university, were to speak to a recruit, the NCAA would not notice, even if it were widely reported and loudly decried. Why? Lots of reasons, but the most important one is that there is no demonstrable advantage gained by the fact that I merely spoke to or interviewed him. Sure, they could “declare” me a booster and UK could dissassociate me, but that would not preclude me from doing it again—in fact, it would facilitate it.

    So the absurdity of some of this stuff is its own undoing, and from a real perspective, there is little chance of an innocent person being declared in violation of NCAA rules. It isn’t in the interests of the NCAA to attempt to include simple, non season-ticket holding fans in their definition—in fact, it could be counterproductive and force them to make a more precise definition and risk missing some genuine troublemakers. Antitrust suits have been filed and settled at great cost for less.

    A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan

    by Truzenzuzex on May 11, 2008 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

    Once Declared BOOSTER By NCAA

    That term exists for your lifetime.

    by FortyYearCatFan on May 11, 2008 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

    Or ...

    ... until they revoke it.

    As I said, being declared a booster may prompt the university to dissociate you, but there is little else to be done. There is no legal action that can realistically be taken if someone declared a booster by the NCAA decides to speak to a recruit, and I doubt if the NCAA would punish a school who dissociated a guy that decided to go merrily along and talk to recruits anyway.

    As a general principle, the whole thing is overblown hyper-compliance by schools fearful of aggressive NCAA enforcement. I don’t blame the schools, particularly Kentucky, but as a practical matter, it is more bluster than anything else. Reality must figure in there somewhere.

    A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan

    by Truzenzuzex on May 11, 2008 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

    Agree (Mostly)

    But “Booster” is a lifetime tag. That’s right in the NCAA recruiting rules. School cannot revoke it.

    I’ll give you one example from personal experience. In the summer of 2004, I personally observed a (signed but not yet enrolled) UT Women’s recruit receive free tickets and other preferential treatment (locker room access, etc) to a WNBA game from a PROMINENT UT Women’s alumnus. A recruiting violation to be sure. Had that recruit NOT been allowed to enroll at UT, the Lady Vols would NOT have won NCAA title(s) in recent years.

    Yet this goes on all the time. The NCAA never hears about it so nothing happens.

    by FortyYearCatFan on May 11, 2008 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

    But the NCAA ...

    ... can, and has.

    Yes, recruiting violations of a technical (and the one you describe is not technical) nature go on all the time. It’s a shame the egregious ones aren’t caught more often, but that is what it is.

    A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan

    by Truzenzuzex on May 11, 2008 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

    Roy Williams

    Technically Roy Williams being at the Barack Obama shoot around with the UNC players was an NCAA violation. They ignored it due to the obvious special circumstances involved.

    "Never, never, never believe any war will be smooth and easy, or that anyone who embarks on the strange voyage can measure the tides and hurricanes he will encounter. The statesman who yields to war fever must realize that once the signal is given, he is no longer the master of policy but the slave of unforeseeable and uncontrollable events. " -- Sir Winston Churchill

    by Crow on May 11, 2008 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

    I actually ...

    ... thought the NCAA should have gigged him for that. There was no justifiable reason for him to violate the NCAA rule, he just did so because he knew they wouldn’t do anything about it. Essentially, he did it for no other reason than to thumb his nose at the NCAA. Not nice.

    Not exactly what I call, “the spirit of compliance.”

    A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan

    by Truzenzuzex on May 12, 2008 7:50 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

    Anyone else...

    Been involved in giving “parting gifts” to players and then laughably tried to claim they didn’t know that was a violation would have been hammered by the NCAA. Also keep in mind that the same time Roy did that he publicly accused Billy Donovan of major NCAA violations re: having Bearup steer players to UF.

    However, we all know that Duke and UNC are untouchable. Duke basically bought Duhon’s mom right out from under us and they’ve used their business boosters to provide jobs to recruits’ families for years, Sheldon Williams was accused of rape and kicked off his high school team for the incident while he was a Duke recruit and yet that got jammed under the rug while Kentucky got crucified for silly little storied like Fitch using a fake ID. So the double standard is there and all BCG can do is use all the leeway he can within the rules to compete on a playing field that has not been level for quite some time and I support his efforts completely.

    "Never, never, never believe any war will be smooth and easy, or that anyone who embarks on the strange voyage can measure the tides and hurricanes he will encounter. The statesman who yields to war fever must realize that once the signal is given, he is no longer the master of policy but the slave of unforeseeable and uncontrollable events. " -- Sir Winston Churchill

    by Crow on May 12, 2008 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

    Another oldie but goodie that Tru introduced me to

    NSFW

    Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."

    by chirop1 on May 14, 2008 7:47 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

    Grrrrr... edit button!!!!

    Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."

    by chirop1 on May 14, 2008 7:48 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

    Again!!!!! WTB Edit Button

    To hell with trying to use the html to link it… or the embed to put it in the post… here’s a straight copy and paste to youtube of a profanity laden video on why Duke Sucks. Credit Tru linking this over a year ago.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYOgC2Qbqh4

    Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."

    by chirop1 on May 14, 2008 7:49 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

    Away from keyboard since noon...

    What was the presser about?

    You ever see that movie Star Wars? People tell me I look like Han Solo.-Reed Rothchild,Boogie Nights

    by chirop1 on May 10, 2008 8:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

    There's ...

    ... a fanpost I made that hits the high points. There is really not much more to report at the moment.

    A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan

    by Truzenzuzex on May 10, 2008 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

    Listening

    http://www.wkyt.com/sports The video player in upper RH corner has the PC replay.

    by FortyYearCatFan on May 10, 2008 9:00 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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