Rupp's Rafters: Making a case for Tony Delk
Jamal Mashburn is considered by many to be the most important recruit of Rick Pitino's tenure at UK. After all, his signing was a signal to other top tier talent that it was okay to go to UK again. Pitino's inking of the the star forward out of New York City also opened up what would become a very lucrative pipeline of talent from the Big Apple to Lexington. It is certainly very difficult to put together a good argument against Mashburn being Pitino's most important recruit. But I feel the most PIVOTAL recruit Pitino ever signed was the 6-1, sharpest of shooters, out of Brownsville, Tennessee, double-zero; Tony Delk .
The McDonald's and Parade All-America turned out to be one of the great players to ever don the blue and white. His career accomplishments are matched by few, his numbers and honors speak for themselves: '96 SEC Player of the Year, 2-time All-SEC first team, '96 consensus All-America, NCAA Regional Most Outstanding Player, Final Four Most Outstanding Player. Delk is number five on UK's career scoring list, checking in with 1,890 points scored.
In his four year career Delk made 683 field-goals, which is good for fifth all-time in Kentucky history. He is also fifth all-time in career three-point field goal percentage at .3975 (he shot 44.3% his junior year) . He leads all UK players with 283 made three-point field goals, and is the current record-holder for most threes made in a game with nine (he was 9-12 versus TCU in January '96). Delk also holds the record for most consecutive games with a made three-pointer, at an astounding thirty-four games. One of the most impressive aspects of Delk's career is the fact that he lead UK in scoring for three straight years. Only two other Wildcats have ever accomplished such an impressive feat; Cotton Nash, and Jack Givens (two jerseys hanging in Rupp, by the way). The fact that Delk lead ANY team in scoring for three straight years is notable, but the teams he lead were loaded with future NBA talent. Among all the stars, he shone the brightest.
When one looks deeper into Tony Delk's career numbers an even more remarkable story is told; in Delk's final three years he played in thirty-two games versus a ranked opponent (AP). In those thirty-two games Delk averaged 17.9 points per game. He failed to score in double-digits a mere two games. Calling him steady would be an insult -- Delk was money in the most difficult games. In his senior year versus Louisville, Delk joined a very elite fraternity of 'Cats when he dropped thirty on UL. That fact alone, in many peoples minds, is enough to ensure Delk's double-zero hangs above Cawood's Court. But there is so much more. Marcia Clark would call it a "mountain of evidence".
One game in particular I remember was a horrifyingly ugly NCAA tournament loss to Marquette in Delk's sophomore year. Delk was 9-for-19 in that most disappointing of games, but the rest of the team only shot 26%. Which of course doomed the 'Cats to a second round loss. That game though, begat a trend of great NCAA Tournament performances by Delk; over the final three years of Delk's career, he played in twelve NCAA Tournament games. In those games he averaged 18.8 points per game. College coaches love to see those numbers, especially in an environment that puts a heavy emphasis on Tournament success. Many times the length of a teams Tournament stay determines the length of the coach's employment contract. Ergo, coach loves nothing more dearly than a clutch, big-game performer.
I used the word "pivotal" earlier in my piece in describing Delk's place in Rick Pitino's recruiting hierarchy. I chose that word because I feel without Tony Delk, UK doesn't win the '96 Championship. I know there were a lot of great players on that team. Players like Derek Anderson, Antoine Walker, Ron Mercer, Walter McCarty, and Anthony Epps. But in my view, one could replace any of those players with an average player, and UK still wins the Title. Replace Delk with an average shooting guard, and UK probably doesn't make it to the Final Four. Delk did so much, other than scoring, to help Kentucky dominate college basketball in '96. His mere presence on the floor opened up the middle for Walker and Pope, and even McCarty. All of the "bigs" on that team owe Delk an appreciative "thank-you". His deadly three-point shooting accuracy demanded full attention from the opponent on the defensive end, allowing the big 'Cats plenty of room to roam.
He was also "pivotal" in the sense that he is mostly responsible, from a players standpoint, for the 6th Championship banner which hangs in Rupp. Like others before him, he deserves the honor of having his 00 hanging from those very same rafters; all of the first five National Championship teams are represented in Rupp's rafters. All are represented by at least two players: The '48 and '49 teams are represented by Alex Groza, Ralph Beard, Kenny Rollins, "Wah Wah" Jones, and Cliff Barker. The '51 team has Bill Spivey, Frank Ramsey, Cliff Hagan, and Lou Tsioropoulos. The '58 Champions are represented by Vernon Hatten and Johnny Cox, and finally the '78 team is represented by Jack Givens, Rick Robey, and Kyle Macy.
It has been twelve seasons since that magical team ruled the hardwood. I think it is time to begin discussing jersey retirements. And one has to start the conversation with Tony Delk. For all of the reasons I have listed above, I think Delk is the most deserving, He was the best player on one of the best college teams in recent memory. There are many debatable viewpoints regarding Kentucky basketball, but one of them is not Delk's worthiness for receiving the highest honor a Kentucky basketball player can receive. Delk has done Kentuckians a great service by enabling UK to hang Championship banner number six, it is time for UK to return the favor by hoisting the double-zero of the "Brownsville Bomber".
Thanks for reading. and Go 'Cats!
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Great Read
i always thought that UK wins it all in 1993 had Delk played more and guys like Dale Brown and Junior Braddy a little less.
Delk played fewer than 10 minutes per game in 1993. Double or triple thatand who knows?
by FortyYearCatFan on May 28, 2008 6:35 AM EDT reply actions
Forgot Link To 1993 Stats
http://www.bigbluehistory.net/bb/statistics/stat1992-93.html Brown, Braddy, Brassow all got more minutes than Delk, who was used (mostly) as back-up PG as frosh.
by FortyYearCatFan on May 28, 2008 7:01 AM EDT reply actions
Tony Delk makes everyone's favorite list
He should be the type of player that gets 100% of the vote. Every person who has ever rooted for UK loves Tony. He worked hard every minute he was on the floor and one of the few players who you want to shoot no matter where he is on the floor. Some players take a shot and you think what is he doing? When Tony touched the ball everyone was screaming “Shoot!!”. A very special player who stayed four years and brought us a title.
He led the team in scoring on what many believe to be the most talented teams in the history of the NCAA. Imagine what type of numbers he might have put up on a team like last years squad where there were few options. He could have easily averaged 30 points a game on a team that was not stacked with talent.
I graduated in 96 so Delk is definitely one of my all time favorites.
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Delk in the Rafters
What I remember most about Tony Delk is one of those little moments that are burned in your memory for no discernable reason. I remember being in middle school and someone in class looking at the sports page and saying “Look at those arms!” Delk was probably a sophomore that year so really he was still somewhat of an unknown to our 8th grade minds. His forearms in that picture of him diving for a ball against an opposing player were humongous!!!!! Delk had no neck… but arms like some sort of genetic freak. I never have heard his wingspan, but I would say that from a proportional standpoint he had to rival Tayshaun Prince.
This article raises a great question. I agree 100% that Delk belongs up there. You mention that all the other teams have at least two… who else from that team would you consider? Walker and Mercer weren’t at school long enough IMO. Ditto to Pope. Was Epps good enough to have his jersey retired? Maybe. McCarty? Maybe. I’d say without a doubt that Delk needs to hang.
Similar questions about the ‘98 team. Sheppard maybe? Padgett? Saul Smith? wink wink (I’m now anxiously awaiting Forty providing me with stats that show Saul as the best point guard in UK history!!!)
Great piece Ken. Glad to have you back from vacation.
Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."
Delk only...
As great as all of the teams and players of the 90’s were, Delk is the only player that truly deserves to be in the rafters. He was a major contributor for all 4 years and was the leader of the National Championship team. No one else has those credentials. Sheppard had an incredible senior season and was a true leader but that is not enough to get in the rafters. If I had any say I would want McCarty up just for the winning shot in the 94 LSU game alone!
In my opinion I think Delk, Prince, and Mashburn are the only ones right now that need to be up there.
Unless Kenny Walker is not up there, I am not sure, someone help me out.
I would love to get Hayes just because he is one of my all time favorites but that will never happen.
Delk first then Mashburn then Prince all need to happen.
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Hrmmm...
Make a case for Prince please…
I love the guy… but I don’t see the draw for hanging him in the rafters. Bogans is the top scorer from the Tubby era and the team had the best success of all the Tubby teams (after the first one obviously) in his senior year. Bogans was an All-American IIRC. Despite all that, I don’t necessarily think he should be in the rafters either… but I think the case could be made more easily for him than Tayshaun.
Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."
Prince
http://www.bigbluehistory.net/bb/statistics/Players/Prince_Tayshaun.html 2-time All-American and 3-time All-SEC. #8 on UK all-time scoring list.
First 2x A-A since Kenny Walker.
by FortyYearCatFan on May 28, 2008 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Walker
Really? When did Walker get up there? And what was the justification for that?
Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."
Walker's accomplishments
2,080 points—2nd all-time ( averaged 22.9 and 20.0 his final two years).
942 rebounds—6th all-time.
Two-time SEC Player of the Year
Two-time All-America
Two-time All NCAA Regional
Along with Dan Issel, he is probably one of the two best players at UK to never win a Title. Of course arguments can be made for many other players.
I’m not sure when his jersey was raised.
Kenny Walker
I am hoping the reason he wanted justification was that he thought it was Antoine. No one can question Kenny Walker’s credentials.
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you got me...
my bias has shown through, Tayshaun makes my all-time favorites list. He has made me a diehard Pistons fan and I guess I am translating his success in the NBA into a need to put him in the rafters but I guess a pro career should not be a standard.
I will settle for them marking the floor in some way where he hit that 5th three in the 2001 UNC game. That was one of the most amazing moments in RUPP arena history. Put a small Tayshaun or his # in that spot and I will be satisfied.
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Not even an argument............
I’ve been saying this for several years now. You could even say that if not for his hot hand in the first half of the championship game, an overachieving Syracuse team comes very close to pulling an upset. Tony also had a very respectable pro career. Delk, Prince and Bogans, as well as Coach Smith, should all go in the rafters.
Coach Smith is chalk
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by TheFakeGimelMartinez on May 28, 2008 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions
chalk
Its one of those terms that has popped up recently. I heard it for the first time this year during the NCAA tournament talk. Apparently, it was used some last year too.
It basically means you can take the “higher team” as a sure thing.
I would assume that FGM is saying that Tubby in the rafters is a done deal. I tend to agree with that.
Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."
That's what I said
Bunny Bread.
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by TheFakeGimelMartinez on May 28, 2008 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm being very unwordy today
In case you guys didn’t understand my Bunny Bread reference, read this blog about the Bunny Bread store in Anna, Ill. Also, the official Bunny Bread site. I’m honestly surprised they’ve lasted this long.
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by TheFakeGimelMartinez on May 28, 2008 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Horse Betting Term
Chalk = the favorite.
by FortyYearCatFan on May 28, 2008 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Doubt It Will Happen
Anything but chalk. Won’t happen with Mitch Barnhart or Lee Todd around.
by FortyYearCatFan on May 28, 2008 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Delk/Prince
I think the movement to out Delk in the rafters has been around for some time now and I am quite sure UK is actually aware of it. I remember Barnhart saying something about it but there is some kind of rule about when they can do it and I am not sure what it is. I do know Barnhart definitley has made a statement addressing it and that it will be gotten to.
As for Prince I have also seen a number of people wanting him up there. His team may not have had as much success but I am pretty sure he garnered more personal awards than Bogan despite their scoring averages. I tend to think the players with great pro careers should be honored by their college beause it helps the school out just as much by drawing attention to great players they have produced.
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But you won't hear davw83 fighting hard for Rondo in the Rafters...
...especially currently. :) Just kiddin’, dav.
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by TheFakeGimelMartinez on May 28, 2008 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Problem
I know you are kidding but in all seriousness I would if Rondo has a great NBA carreer which I happen to think that he will.
Here’s my problem though. IF the Celtics beat the Pistons theoretically I would want them to beat the Lakers in the finals because Rondo BUT I like the Pistons so much that I just dont know if I can root for the team that bumps them out were that to happen.
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Re: davw
I feel it is time to quit talking and start acting. Twelve years is long enough for a player of Delk’s contributions to wait.
As you write, I am sure Barnhart and company are aware of the “chatter” among UK fans to have Delk’s jersey properly retired. In my opinion Delk’s achievements merit official affirmation, soon.
Well I couldn't disagree more.....
Had there been no Delk in ‘96 that team would still have won it all and Walker would have gotten more PT earlier and more often. There was plenty to back up Delk if he had went down. Also, Delk came in amid a flurry of talented recruits.
Mashburn was different, totally different. The Monster Mash represented the reemergence of Kentucky… that we were back. He also was, at least in the minds of our opponents, our entire team. Don’t believe me? Then watch Grant Hill talk about that ‘92 Kentucky team and what their instructions were from Coach K prior to the game. “Mashburn, Mashburn, Mashburn….” is a close paraphrase.
So not only was Mashburn far more important on the court and to his team, he was infinitely more important in the message his recruitment sent to the rest of the college basketball world: KENTUCKY IS BACK!
Mashburn nearly single handidly ended the probation era and ushered in a new era of Kentucky Basketball. Delk, while a fantastic player and one of my personal favorites, was no Jamal Mashburn and I think that is something that most Kentucky fans will feel instinctively that lived through that whole process. No numbers necessary on this one.
Mashburn
As I stated early in the piece I believe Mashburn is the most important recruit of the Pitino era. I clearly notate his importance. It is simply my opinion that Delk was the most “pivotal”.
Mashburn’s jersey is retired. I feel it is now time to honor Delk.
Mashburn's retired jersey
When did UK retire that jersey? (Wondering how many years after he played.)
Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."
Mashburn's jersey
I’m not sure how long Mash had to wait. If my memory is correct, I believe his jersey retirement happened not too awfully long after he left.
I do know Bowie’s jersey was retired in ‘02, which is eighteen years after he last played.
Of course Bob Burrow waited forty years.
Pivotal?
Not sure why you feel it is an advantage to argue “pivotal” as opposed to “important” as Mashburn is probably more pivotal than he was important. Under Mashburn we pivoted away from probation and disgrace and back to National prominence. Not sure how Delk was more pivotal than that. Scoring statistics do not constitute being “pivotal” as we were a FF team that became an NC team under Delk and he had more than half a dozen NBA players at his side in doing so. Not much of a pivot.
Maybe make a case for Delk being more productive or perhaps more accomplished on the court but clearly to nearly all Kentucky fans Mashburn is going to be both more important and more pivotal than Delk because, well, he was.
Mash v. Delk
My argument hinges on the championship that Delk won, and in my opinion, would not have been won without him. Mashburn, while a great, great college player never won a championship (thanks to RP). Does that fact take away from Mash’s career? Not in my eyes, but Delk’s place in UK lore is at least as important as Mashburn’s in my view.
Lastly, Delk being surrounded by NBA talent only bolsters his stock. As I noted in my piece, he shone the brightest among a plethora of great players. I am also of the opinion that his tremendous play enabled those other great players to fullfil there potential at the collegiate level. The old, “he makes his teammates better” adage is appropriate, I feel.
This certainly seems to be an issue that reasonable fans can disagree on.
Mashburn, Prince, Patterson
Each may be the #1 recruit in their UK careers by their respective coaches.
Each was signed in that coach’s first recruiting class.
by FortyYearCatFan on May 28, 2008 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Good point.
I hadn’t really considered that Mashburn, Prince, and Patterson were all in their respective coach’s first class? Interesting point.
As for Prince, I have said repeatedly that this guy belongs in the rafters as he carried UK on his back IMO and kept our heads above water in what otherwise could have been some lean times at UK. He’s been a total class act every step of the way, too.
Rondo in the Rafters?
Come on, people. Unlike Delk, Rondo personified the generation of “me first” players who, to coin a phrase, asked not what he could do for Kentucky, but instead what Kentucky could do for him. He was and still is an unbelievable talent. However, talent alone does not warrant a place in Kentucky basketball lore. Instead, talent, achievement, and intangibles such as leadership, hustle, and an indomitable spirit are required to warrant a place in Rupp’s hallowed rafters. I do not live in Lexington. However, I’m willing to bet that, since leaving early to pursue NBA riches, Rondo has done little, if anything, to promote either the school or the community.
That being said, you have my vote for Tony Delk and, for good measure, Chuck Hayes and Wayne Turner as well.
Actually
Camp Rondo will be in town! So at least he’s coming back to the Louisville/Lexington community. I’m not for sure how his relations have been with UK Athletics, honestly. I thought Rondo was in town for Big Blue Madness this past year, but I could be mistaken on that.
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by TheFakeGimelMartinez on May 28, 2008 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions
rondo
I think he’s done more for UK since he left school than when he was here.
I know he came and played at Billy’s Elite Camp last summer and he was here on senior day and presented Joe and Ramel with their jerseys.
He speaks well of UK as well.
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Big "no" on Rondo for me.
He’s been great since he left and is a fine ambassador for the program and I appreciate tremendously that he comes back, but I just don’t think he did enough on the court to hang from the rafters.
name that wildcat...
who played in 3 final fours and was an eyelash away from a fourth. not that i think he should be in the rafters, but not much is said about him. he came to uk as a mcdonald’s all-american and aguably had the best four years (based on team sucess) that any player has ever had.
by i got the blues on May 28, 2008 9:58 PM EDT reply actions
Has to be Turner
Turner has been a favorite of mine since he played.
Although he is 4th in assists in UK history, I don’t think he’ll ever achieve “Rafter” status.
by Ken Howlett on May 28, 2008 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Walt Hirsch?
http://www.bigbluehistory.net/bb/statistics/Players/Hirsch_Walter.html He played on 3 UK teams that won NCAA titles in 1948, 49 and 51.
His UK teams were 125-12 over 4 years. They won 4 SEC titles and 3 SECT championships, losing only 2 games vs SEC teams in those 4 seasons.
by FortyYearCatFan on May 29, 2008 6:42 AM EDT up reply actions
Good pickup, but ...
... he wasn’t a McDonald’s AA :)
by Ken Howlett on May 29, 2008 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions
i don't think that he will ever be there either...
although i do think the argument can be made. the unforgetables are there because of the impact that they had on the program not for statistics that they had. i think that you could make that argument for turner as well. i am not saying that he had the same kind of impact as the unforgettables, but what other player has had the career in blue and white that he did.
by i got the blues on May 28, 2008 11:45 PM EDT reply actions
No brainer...
Tony Delk shouldn’t be punished for having 15 NBA caliber players around him. If anything he should be rewarded for still putting up such impressive numbers.
There are two main criterions (and one lesser so…) in my book for the honor of Rafterization…
(1) Unmistakable status in leading Kentucky to a title or multiple titles, combined with appropriately standout numbers. This includes the Delk and Turner arguments, as well as Macy and others already there.
(2) Lacking a title or Final Four, posting numbers that befit status as one of the all-time greats. This would include Kenny Walker, Bowie, Mashburn and Issel, etc. This would also encompass the Prince and Bogans arguments.
(3) Call it the “intangible” argument. It’s the reason four scrubby nobodies (used to) hang among the immortals—Pelphrey, Farmer, Feldhaus and Woods. I think Sean got yanked for never finishing his degree, but the effect is the same. Maybe not the numbers argument, maybe not the title argument. But there has to be room in sports for the third option … these guys definitely qualify.
ON BOGANS: I have long made an argument that after Delk, Bogans has more of an argument than any other modern player. I researched it back in 04, but IIRC Keith finished has career as the only UK player EVER with 1700+ points, 500+ rebounds, 300+ assists and 150+ steals. His all-around brilliance was less pronounced than a single ability that might have made a stronger case…
Sure, there is the argument that (a) he never made a Final Four and (b) his junior year was a disappointment and© his longevity inflated his overall scoring total, but to me, the 2003 SuffoCats were among the greatest UK teams in history. They did staggering things, and are underappreciated to this day because of lingering frustration with Tubby’s legacy.
There is a case against Bogans, and that may prove to be the caseultimately. But he certainly falls in the same camp as Bowie or Walker to me, guys who played in one more game (Final Four) than Bogans, but whose contributions shoujld be stacked up against the best all-time to wear the blue and white.
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Woods came down?
Really? I havn’t been to Rupp in a couple years and admittedly I did not scan the rafters thoroughly while there… but that would surprise me.
Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."
Woods
Woods was yanked because he didn’t finish his degree work (which was part of the deal), But he was “reraised” once his degree work was completed.
Delk Didn't Have 15 NBA Caliber Players On Any Of His UK Teams
7 or 8 on the 1996 team. Fewer on the 1993, 1994, 1995 teams.
by FortyYearCatFan on May 29, 2008 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Put 00 up there!
My #1 favorite all time UK player. Gotta love a guy who pulls up to shoot a 3 on the fast break – and you get excited rather than wince in pain!
One of my favorite things about Jodie Meeks is that the way he moves his feet somehow reminds me of Tony Delk. Meeks is much faster and they look nothing alike, but somehow his motion reminds me of Delk. And it doesn’t hurt that he can drain the 3.
Obligatory anecdote: the girl I was dating at the time at UK, came within an inch of hitting Tony Delk with her car. She wasn’t paying attention and almost hit him. It was low speed, on campus, so he probably would have been okay. But we still had all kinds of talks about how she’d never be able to show her face again on UK campus and would have to transfer if she had hit him. And of course I would have dumped her immediately upon hearing.














