A very early look at Kentucky's place in the SEC for 2008-09 -- Part 2
In the first part of this series, I began a very premature SWOT (Strengths, Weaknesses, Opportunities and Threats) analysis of the 2008-09 UK basketball team as it relates to the SEC. In that first part, I looked at strengths and weaknesses. Today, I will focus on the opportunities and threats that next year's team will likely face.
Opportunities and threats tend to be more strategic and less tactical than strengths and weaknesses, and that turns out to be the case for Kentucky's SWOT analysis as well. You will note less player-level dialog and a much broader perspective here. So without further gilding the lily and with no more ado, here we go:
Opportunities
Opportunities abound for Kentucky next year, and I am just going to hit a few of the big ones. Obviously, many of these opportunities apply not only to the SEC, but on a national scale as well, and most of these are "big picture" or macro rather than micro opportunities.
- An SEC regular-season championship -- I believe next year's team has a real chance at this. Tennessee, Kentucky, Florida, Mississippi State and Alabama are the teams that I see fighting it out for the SEC regular season title. Tennessee looks very tough, but their losses will definitely make them more vulnerable next year. Florida will be better next year, but how much is a bit of an open question. If Speights does not return, I think they will have trouble replacing him. Alabama looks great on paper, but we all know that they tend to underperform. Mississippi State, however, is just as capable of winning it as Tennessee, particularly if Jamont Gordon returns.
The SEC will be a serious dogfight next year between those three or four teams, I believe, and Kentucky has about an even chance with the rest of them to come out on top. I give a very slight edge to Tennessee over Kentucky and MSU, with Florida a close fourth. - Re-enter the national picture through the SEC -- The last three years, getting regularly beaten by Vanderbilt and Florida both at home and away has seriously hurt the perception of Kentucky as a powerhouse program. Florida will always be seen (unless they win a couple more championships in basketball) as a football school, and they still get relatively little overall respect for their basketball program from the Great Powers, which used to include Kentucky. But not for the last three years.
This is the first year that Kentucky has a genuine chance to reverse that. Despite the loss of half our scoring, we will be returning the co-FOY in Patrick Patterson and a likely all-SEC guard in Jodie Meeks. The potential for this Kentucky team on defense is staggering -- they could truly return us to the days of the Suffocats. While the SEC will be improved overall from last year, the improvements will be mostly incremental at best.
In order to return to prominence in the SEC, Kentucky must start to defeat teams like Vanderbilt and Florida both at home and away. Yes, both are tough, but that is what it takes. No more 41-point drubbings in Nashville, no more close losses in Gainesville. If Kentucky wants to be the first word uttered when talking about the SEC again, it is going to have to earn it. Next year represents an opportunity to start that process. - Return the swagger -- Kentucky has not had that swagger, that "We are UK!" kind of self-confidence in three years, despite the best efforts of Ramel Bradley's brash personality. Until the last three years, there was a surreal quality about UK basketball, one of those intangible things that would give them an advantage in every SEC, or for that matter, any, game they played. That advantage has been replaced by the apotheosis of drudgery, like every game is against a superior foe, even when it isn't.
I'm sure most of you have seen the Austin Powers movies where his "Mojo" was taken away. That is how Kentucky looks to me since 2005. That indefinable, enigmatic, almost mystical quality that formerly defined Kentucky, that "Mojo," has been absent lately, particularly against SEC foes. Even last year during the Wildcat SEC resurgence, every game was a kind of a grim death-match in which the Cats were always on the brink. 2008-09 feels to me like the first time in a while the Cats have a chance to reclaim their Mojo and once again strike fear into league opponents. - Unite the fan base -- Despite the travails and success of Gillispie's first year at Kentucky, the jury is still out on his effectiveness. Most Kentucky fans have gotten over the horrible out of conference schedule from last year that saw us lose home games to Gardner-Webb and San Diego. The gritty resurgence of the Cats during the SEC season rescued us from the depths of despair, and the resultant invitation to the NCAA tournament gave us at least a bit of reason to be optimistic, even though we were "one and done" for the first time since 1986.
There is still lingering resentment among the fans that needs healing, and the only thing that will heal it is success. Next year represents an opportunity for that healing to begin, and a chance for Gillispie to cement himself firmly in the job. The coach is still on probation here in Kentucky, but I firmly believe that unless circumstances again conspire to thwart his efforts as multiple major injuries did last year, he will be able to begin bringing Kentucky basketball out of the long night and back to a swift sunrise. - Reclaim a rational "pipeline" -- The monster recruiting class of 2004's strange path to finality has been the subject of both consternation and euphoria among the Kentucky faithful. Never in my memory can I recall a single class producing so much disappointment, controversy, confusion and inspiration. While I am sad to see our two seniors depart, a part of me is happy the long and sometimes torturous saga of the 04's is over.
With that, Gillispie is trying to build a better "pipeline" than we have had, a natural progression of teams to the ultimate goal of a national championship contender. As our new players develop, we are beginning to see a truer transition from year to year, rather than the fits and starts we have seen in the last three. Seeing year-to-year improvement is something that we haven't seen in a while, particularly in our SEC efforts.
Threats
Unfortunately, threats abound in next year's team, both from without and from within. We can hope that none of them materialize, and try to minimize their impact, but as I will explain, many will be beyond our control. Some of these threats are not very pleasant to think about, but we have to face the reality in front of us.
- Lack of a point guard -- DeAndre Liggins is very likely the best pure point guard we have recruited since Rajon Rondo. Unfortunately, as of this writing he has not fully qualified to matriculate to UK next year.
This is a very serious threat to Kentucky's season. While Michael Porter can no doubt man the position for stretches, unless he undergoes radical improvement this summer, he will not be an SEC-quality starting point guard. He should be a good back-up to Liggins, but without Liggins, our point guard strategy is severely weakened. Should Jasper defy conventional wisdom and return to the Bluegrass, this threat would be greatly mitigated.
Many will point out the fact that Kevin Galloway has point-guard skills, and in fact played the point for his JUCO team. That may be so, but my experience is that the most difficult transition between a JUCO and Division 1 is at the one spot. Plus, I am convinced that Gillispie brought Galloway mainly as a 3. We needed to improve ballhandling, and with Galloway, we improved both our ballhandling and overall size. But only if Liggins makes it to campus. - Injuries to scorers -- Whether or not we have sufficient overall scoring is important, but not critical. My feeling is that Kentucky has recruited players that can make this the best defensive team in the entire NCAA. We will not need as many scorers if we keep the other team from putting it in the basket and take good care of the basketball. If we do that, we will break down the defense and get good shots close to the basket, much as we did last year earlier on.
But with only two serious scoring threats, we are highly vulnerable to injury. If Patterson or Meeks, both of whom are coming off surgeries in the post-season, go down with injuries, it is very hard to see where out baskets will come from. Kentucky must develop a third and even fourth option very early next year. It could come from one of the JUCOs, or Stevenson, or Darius Miller. But we must develop one or be very vulnerable to injury. - The JUCO curse -- Kentucky had very limited success with junior college players since Rodney Dent went down at Vanderbilt. Let us hope that Billy Gillispie's JUCOs deliver. If they don't, it is going to be a struggle again this year. The JUCOs don't have to deliver big numbers on offense, but we do need them to rebound, pass, set screens and defend. In short, they need to do the little things that will enable our more talented players to put the ball in the basket.
- Another early-season funk -- I know none of us are thinking this, but if UK struggles in the non-conference season again this year, the Big Blue Nation will come unglued. It is possible for even a proud program like Kentucky to survive one such trauma every decade or so, but another one will surely create turmoil among the fans and calls for the coach's head. Angry detractors will point to two seasons of struggle as proof that Gillispie is not a UK-caliber coach, rumors will begin to resurface, Louisville Cardinal schadenfreude will drive Kentucky fans to the brink of sanity and life around the Commonwealth will become very unpleasant for the Blue and White.
As I noted above, the Kentucky fan base needs to be able to rally around the UK coach. Last year, we were just able to do that because of a gritty run through the SEC, but nobody wants to see that kind of grind-it-out, living-on-the-brink basketball at Kentucky on a consistent basis. If winning basketball does not return in the early season next year, the restive fan base may well develop into a huge distraction for the team. Kentucky fans desperately need to see a return to normalcy in the Kentucky program, and another bad start could drive all this latent frustration to the surface in a rush. - Decommitments from early recruits -- Nothing will get the press more fired up than if one or more of Gillispie's very early recruits like Avery or Zollo change their mind in the middle of the season. That will ignite the whole "How young is too young?" debate all over again, and produce a genuine distraction to both Gillispie and the team.
It isn't fair that Kentucky is being held up as the poster child for this debate, especially since they were hardly the first to do it. However unfair, that's what has happened, and if it blows up in the middle of the season, we are looking about weeks and weeks of negative press, Jerry Tipton and John Clay I-told-you-so's, and general mayhem at press conferences. That is a threat to our success, because a distracted coach is not the most effective coach. - A mid-season defection -- As threats go, this is relatively minor but not insignificant. When you are in your first few years of coaching, particularly your first couple, perceptions really matter. If one of our recent recruits goes the way of Alex Legion, it will be a definite distraction to the team and the coaching staff. Once again, people in the media will begin questioning Gillispie's methods, much as we saw last year.
Fortunately, many of these threats like 4, 5 and 6, while real, do not appear terribly likely. What we need more than anything this year is to compete for the SEC championship. Even though we did that last year, nobody ever really considered UK a threat to actually win. With Tennessee somewhat weaker this year and Florida and Kentucky stronger, the ensuing chaos should give us a decent chance to come out on top.
Kentucky fans are truly anxious to get this team back to the front page of the top 25, and although we aren't terribly likely to do that in 2008-09, getting into the top 25 and perhaps the top 20 ought to be very, very doable.
This completes the SWOT analysis of the 2008-09 UK basketball team. Next, we will tie it all together in Part 3 and, in light of this analysis, figure out where Kentucky is likely to wind up.
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Hoorah!
I havn’t actually read the piece yet… but I’ve got a half hour before I head out from the office. This will give me something to eat up the time!
Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."
by chirop1 on May 17, 2008 11:27 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for the update!
Thanks for the update, Chirop1! LOL ;)
What server is your icon from, btw?
by EEWildcat on May 17, 2008 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Okay... now I've digested it
Assuming best case scenarios for pretty much everything (Liggins qualifies, JUCO’s develop, no injuries, etc) I think one of the biggest opportunities for the team will be to develop an actual offense. If we can begin to see the glimmers of an efficient offense, I think that will go a long way towards rallying the fans around the coach. Gone are the Pitino days of every shot being a three pointer or a lay-up, heck he doesn’t even play that way anymore. What Gillispie needs to show is that the team can have as much intensity and coherence on offense as defense.
As much as I loved Joe and Ramel last year (especially at the end) it was obvious that Kentucky would be limited by the “wait until 4 seconds on the shot clock and heave up a prayer” offense. Against Georgia and Marquette we saw the limitations of that. What Gillispie needs to demonstrate to us is that there is a plan in place on the offensive end of the court. We have several good passers now apparently. If this team can show a good offensive focus, they have the potential to be very fun to watch and really create some tough match-up problems in the SEC.
As you note, gelling early is an absolute must for this team. Getting off to the 4-4 starts that we have grown accustomed to in the last few years of Tubby’s tenure and the beginning of the Gillispie tenure will not be acceptable to fans anymore. Kentucky needs to win the games they are supposed to win (for a change) and they need to win a couple games that they shouldn’t. Stealing a win at Chapel Hill this year would be huge.
All in all, another quality piece.
Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."
by chirop1 on May 17, 2008 11:44 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for the courage!
Thanks for having the courage to bring up some of the real “Threats,” Tru. You brought up a lot of the dirty underbelly that we usually don’t like to talk about (effect/possibility of early defections, etc). Excellent analysis!
by EEWildcat on May 17, 2008 12:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Excellent...
...post, Tru. I’m with you on the threat of another early season slump…
Also, just wanted to say that, for the sense in which you’re using it in the next-to-last paragraph, “ought” is the proper word, as in “ought to do something,” not “aught,” which actually means zero.
by nocodecub on May 17, 2008 3:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Thanks ...
... for pointing that out. Another one of those stupid word-usage errors (lose-loose) that seems to have been burned into my brain.
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by Truzenzuzex on May 17, 2008 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I need some pepto-bismol
I am all for being realistic but your list of possible negative outcomes literally made me sick to my stomach! If any one of those things happen I will be spending a lot of Tuesday nights and Saturday afternoons crying! Please for my health I will be happy with a 25 win season and at LEAST a sweet sixteen team. For my health and sanity lets hope these threats don’t happen!
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by GoCats on May 17, 2008 4:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Amen ...
... I’ll be right there with you.
Sometimes, reality just sucks. :-)
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by Truzenzuzex on May 17, 2008 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Need to know who is going to be on the team....
... before we can assess this team’s chances next year. Liggins qualifying will be huge for us. Need to know that Patterson and Meeks have completely recovered. Need to know if we will have any late suprise additions which obviously is doubtful at this point.
by Crow on May 17, 2008 10:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Very fair and realistic assessment
The way I see it, it will be Florida and Tennessee vying for the SEC East next year and for the forseeable future with a chance for Kentucky to join the club as early as ‘09 - not likely due to the reasons discussed here - but definitely in the mix by 2010. Gillispie’s recruiting is too powerful for Kentucky not to be part of the Top 25 landscape again in the next few years.
However, Pearl and Donvan are doing equally impressive things and I don’t seem momentum slowing for those guys either. The East will be the most competitive division in the SEC for a long time, and that means none of the “Big 3” are likely to enjoy dominance.
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by Gatorpilot on May 18, 2008 8:47 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
SEC Champs
Rupp won SEC in his 3rd year (UK’s first in the conference).
Hall won SEC in his 1st year. Sutton in his 1st year. Pitino in his 2nd year (if you count 1991 and SEC best 14-4 record) and Tubby in his 1st year.
Gillispie needs to win SEC in 2009 or 2010.
by FortyYearCatFan on May 18, 2008 10:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Big difference...
..between the team and program Tubby got handed (UK at the very pinnacle of the college basketball world) and the pathetic one he handed off to Billy G (a program in shambles, a badly divided fan base, the media at our throats smelling blood in the water, recruits ignoring us like the plague).
No point in debating the cause and I am not interested in doing so, but I cannot allow any comparison of the shape the program was in at the end of 1997 to the one that was handed over in 2007 be made as you are talking about UK being as strong as it ever has been in one instance to being at an all-time low point in the later after we had suffered 5 10 loss seasons in 8 years and were fielding players that television announcers were publicly saying had no business being at UK.
Gillispie’s attitude is that if he continues to upgrade the talent level then the results will take care of themselves. Recruiting is the life-blood of the program to him, and I agree with his assessment.
by Crow on May 19, 2008 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No Difference
Each coach won the SEC in his 2nd or 3rd year.
The UK roster in March 2007 contained good talent. Not as good as May 1997 but still good.
No excuses. Gillispie needs to win SEC by his 3rd year. Every other UK coach since Rupp did.
The 1971 and 72 Wildcats were so-so. The 1985 Cats were NR and 18-13. The 1989 Cats were NR and 13-19. Yet the new coaches won the SEC in the 1st or 2nd year afterwards (1991 Cats “won” SEC with best record.
by FortyYearCatFan on May 19, 2008 6:07 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Regardless of what you inherit...
You definitely need to be winning the SEC regular season by your third year coaching UK. If it were 2006 with Florida’s aberration of a team, it would be different. But no SEC team is going to be strong enough in these next two years that UK shouldn’t win it. There are a couple of strong teams but not too much more so than in the past, IMHO.
If by some miracle Jasper returns to school (and everyone’s healthy, and Liggins qualifies) we should win it in 2008-2009. The roster would be talented and balanced. Otherwise, it is going to be tough – but doable – due to lack of experience at the point.
by EEWildcat on May 19, 2008 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and..
We need to stop losing 10+ games a season.Absolutely no excuse for that at UK.I am hoping those days are behind us in the near future.
by -Zoso- on May 19, 2008 7:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Losing 10+ Games Per Season
1965, 67, 74, 76, 79, 85, 87, 89, 90, 2000, 01, 02, 06, 07, 08.
That’s 15 times in 44 seasons or 35% of the time. There may no excuse but it happens more than you think.
by FortyYearCatFan on May 19, 2008 7:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yes,Rupp did it twice in 40 years.Hall did it twice in 10 years.Pitino once.Tubby 5 Times in 9 years.
by -Zoso- on May 19, 2008 8:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
There are more games played now than in the Rupp Era
So there are going to be more losses. The percentages below are more fair. Pitino was much better than Tubby at UK; I don’t think anyone will dispute that. But Tubby was still a good coach for us and got us tons of wins during the regular season (and quite a few in the post season as well).
But let’s just give the Tubby trolling a rest, it’s not productive. We’ve got an exciting season coming up, let’s enjoy it.
by EEWildcat on May 20, 2008 12:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rupp Did It Longer
But Pitino was the best UK coach since the “first half of his career” Rupp. And a better coach than the “second half of his career” Rupp too. Pitino is nowhere near the coach now that he was then.
Rupp “1st half” won 3 NCAA (4 FF) and 1 NIT titles (3 FF) from 1931-51. He was 19-6 in postseason.
Rupp “2nd half” won 1 NCAA (2 FF) from 1952-72. He was 18-16 in postseason. He tailed off a lot.
by FortyYearCatFan on May 20, 2008 6:23 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Incorrect Stats
Rupp twice. Hall 4 times. Sutton twice. Pitino once. Tubby 5 times.
21 W avg Rupp. 23 W Hall. 22 W Sutton. 27 W Pitino. 26 W Tubby.
82% Rupp. 75% Hall. 69% Sutton. 81% Pitino. 76% Tubby.
(NCAA games only) 62% Rupp. 69% Hall. 62% Sutton. 81% Pitino. 72% Tubby.
Rupp coached 41 seasons. Hall 13. Sutton 4. Pitino 8. Tubby 10 (not 9).
by FortyYearCatFan on May 19, 2008 9:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
and the second biggest winner
72% Tubby!
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by TheFakeGimelMartinez on May 19, 2008 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We play ...
... more games now than then. But obviously, it would be better if we could keep losses in single digits than not. But if we can win SEC and NCAA championships with ten losses, I can live with that.
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by Truzenzuzex on May 19, 2008 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And
2nd most W per season.
3rd best W-L % per season.
2nd best NCAA W-L % too.
by FortyYearCatFan on May 20, 2008 6:20 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Long live the Tubby debate!
One day… when FortyYearCatFan has to change his name to EightyYearCatFan we’ll still be rehashing this, won’t we?
Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."
by chirop1 on May 20, 2008 3:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Factitian
I welcome your rebuttal facts. So long as people use facts, I quibble not. Rarely do they.
by FortyYearCatFan on May 20, 2008 10:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i'd say...
...the same can be said for both sides.
GO BIG BLUE!! GO BIG BLUE!!
by UKWildCatFanatic on May 20, 2008 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I Don't Believe So
I always use facts to support opinions. You should, too.
by FortyYearCatFan on May 21, 2008 6:45 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
OPINION
1. a belief or judgment that rests on grounds insufficient to produce complete certainty.
2. a personal view, attitude, or appraisal.
by kentuckygirl0724 on May 21, 2008 7:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Something I learned in a fight with my wife a couple years ago...
When telling her that she was overreacting to some perceived slight or another she screamed at me “You don’t have the right to tell me how I feel.”
Now, I learned a lot from that little exchange. I could present facts. I could show her statistics that 88.7% of people thought whatever it was she was yelling about was silly. The bottom line was that it didn’t matter. She felt the way she did and nothing I did or said would change that.
I feel the same way about a lot of the discussions around the Kentucky program. The numbers can clearly show me that the 07-08 team was not as good as the 05-06 and 06-07 versions… the numbers can even show me that the probably played a slower pace of basketball… but nothing can change the fact that I felt that I enjoyed last season much more than the previous two.
Those are the truly, indisputable facts. And really, the only ones that matter.
Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."
by chirop1 on May 21, 2008 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
two things
first, i never said you didn’t use facts. i said both sides of the debate have people that don’t. so before you get on my case about facts, try not to read into what i write, especially not personal attacks.
second, just because you say someone told you something about whatever event doesn’t make it a fact.
GO BIG BLUE!! GO BIG BLUE!!
by UKWildCatFanatic on May 21, 2008 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I stand By My Previous Statements
I use facts. You should use them, too.
by FortyYearCatFan on May 21, 2008 11:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i have
GO BIG BLUE!! GO BIG BLUE!!
by UKWildCatFanatic on May 21, 2008 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good
That’s what everyone should do.
Some don’t. Many do.
by FortyYearCatFan on May 22, 2008 7:11 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
you're right
some don’t.
GO BIG BLUE!! GO BIG BLUE!!
by UKWildCatFanatic on May 22, 2008 9:31 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

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