A very early look at Kentucky's place in the SEC for 2008-09
So how does Kentucky fit into the SEC equation for 2008-09? Earlier this month, we looked at how the SEC is likely to shape up next year, both the Eastern and Western divisions. Now, I think we would like to take a look at how Kentucky fits into the equation. So what I will attempt now is a SWOT (Strengths, Weaknesses, Opportunities and Threats) analysis on the 2008-09 version of the Cats' chances in the SEC.
Rather than doing one monstrous post, I am going to break this look into three separate posts. The first two will be the SWOT analysis and the last will tie it all together.
Strengths
Kentucky will inherit some of its strength from returning players and some from the new ones, and at this point we don't know how much or from whom. The end of last year makes it difficult to judge because of the injury to Patterson and the necessity of Joe Crawford and Ramel Bradley to essentially take over the offense completely. But here is how I see it rigth now:
- Quality depth -- Kentucky has numerous new players coming in next year, all of them recruited by Billy Gillispie. They are Kevin Galloway, a junior college player listed as a small forward but with point guard capabilities. Josh Harrellson, a junior college 6'9" 265# power forward with post-up and face-the-basket skills. DeAndre Liggins, a 6'6" point guard with outstanding court vision and an excellent handle. Darius Miller, a 6'6" small forward with solid athleticism, size, a great body and a very mature game.
The biggest benefit these players will add is quality depth. Liggins is a likely starter, but probably not from day one. I expect that he will back up Porter for the first few games, but by the time we get into the hard part of our non-conference schedule, he will be seeing the lions share of the minutes. All the other players will likely be coming off the bench, but they are all the kind of players that are tall, athletic and can handle or rebound the basketball.
So instead of the huge drop-off UK suffered last year when they brought in our subs, this year the Cats aught to have much more consistency between the first and second squads. - A pretty good front line -- Any team with Patrick Patterson on it would have a pretty good front line, even when he was a freshman. Now that he is a sophomore, and with the addition of the New and Improved Perry Stevenson and the aforementioned Josh Harrellson, Kentucky's front line will be high SEC quality and capable. If, in spite of all history so far to the contrary, Jared Carter finds a way to seriously contribute, UK could wind up with the best front line in the SEC top to bottom.
- Better ball handling -- Turnovers were a gigantic bugaboo for the Wildcats last year, and if Kentucky is to improve, that statistic must improve. Kentucky was dead last in the SEC last year in turnover margin with an abysmal 15.8 turnovers/game to our opponents 13.1, a -2.71 average. UK was 285th out of 341 total division I teams in that statistic. But with the addition of Liggins, Galloway and Miller, the Cats' ball handling should improve markedly.
- Better passing -- This statistic could be radically better or just much better depending on what Derrick Jasper decides to do. If he happens to hang around, I imagine that our assists will go up significantly. Last year, Kentucky was in the bottom three in the SEC in assists at 12.74/game, and was 258th in the nation in assist/TO ratio. In the important assist/made field goal stat, Kentucky was an anemic 192nd.
If Jasper leaves, which appears likely, we should still improve, just not as much as we would if we had a great passer like Jasper. No matter what, we should be better there. - Better rebounding -- Despite the loss of Joe Crawford and Ramel Bradley, who were both excellent rebounding guards, we should improve in this area as well. Liggins and Galloway are both capable rebounders and taller than Crawford or Bradley, and the addition of Josh Harrellson and the New and Improved Perry Stevenson should allow us to make strides from our #7 position in the SEC in rebounding margin.
- Efficiency -- Kentucky was a fairly efficient basketball team last year before Patterson got hurt, and I expect the Cats to be even more efficient next season with better passing and better interior offensive presence. I expect most of Kentucky's shots to come from inside the arc, and the Wildcats have the players with the size and skill to score inside.
- Overall Defense -- Defense was a strength of last year's team, and the Cats have only gotten bigger and more athletic with the incoming class of players. Billy Gillispie has proved beyond any reasonable doubt that he can get his players to defend as well as anyone. Last year, Kentucky ranked near the top of the SEC in every defensive category except steals, and was 44th in the land in adjusted defensive efficiency. With some serious size and athleticism available at all positions next year, I expect the SEC to have great difficulty scoring on Kentucky.
- Built for speed -- Because of improved depth, passing and athleticism, Kentucky next year should be able to get out on an effective break and into early offense much more often than it was last year. I don't expect the Wildcats to become the Tennessee Volunteers, but I do expect Kentucky to run much more often due primarily to Patterson and Liggins. Patterson does a great job with outlet passes, and Liggins is simply one of the best I have seen in years at advancing the ball quickly down the floor with the pass.
Next year's Cats should be able to withstand and even thrive at a much higher tempo because of improved quality depth. With the relative lack of shooting on this team, early offense will likely provide the best chance for a long, athletic team like Kentucky will be next year to get high-percentage looks.
Weaknesses
No team goes from season to season without weaknesses either being identified or forced upon them by the loss of graduating players. This year sees UK lose 34 points/game on average out of 68.5, which by my math comes to roughly 50% of the scoring. So I see Kentucky's weaknesses like this:
- Perimeter shooting -- Kentucky will return only one proven perimeter scorer, the injured Jodie Meeks. After that, we have to go to Michael Porter to find our next best outside shooter, and quite frankly, he has yet to prove he can score consistently. None of the players that we are bringing on have proven themselves beyond the arc, although Darius Miller does have good form on his jumper and should be able to develop into a threat from 3-point range. But realistically, the Cats simply aren't getting any help there. Meeks will be the go-to bomber unless someone else steps up, and that is a definite weakness.
Kentucky was one of the better 3-point shooting teams in the nation at 54th overall thanks to Joe Crawford and Ramel Bradley. With only Meeks back, Kentucky definitely needs someone to step up in this area. - Experience and leadership -- We lost all our senior leadership last year, and even though Jared Carter will technically be a senior, he is so rarely in the game that he could not lead even if he knows how. Meeks, Stevenson, Porter and Jasper (if he hangs around) will help as juniors, but of those, only Derrick Jasper has two solid years of varsity game experience, and odds are he won't be here. The rest have either played sparingly during the two years they have been here, or have been injured.
Patrick Patterson will supply a great deal of leadership, especially in the area of intensity. But he is still only a sophomore, and that matters. Very few teams in the SEC have excelled with a vacuum of senior leadership. This is a serious weakness. - On-the-ball defense -- This is really an assumption on my part due to the fact that the Cats will be much bigger and somewhat less quick next year. Add to that our best returning back court player, Jodie Meeks, is anything but a defensive whiz at least so far in his career, and you have a recipe for doubt. With the proliferation of quick, aggressive guards in the SEC who make it a mission to get to the rack and UK's lack of returning back court players and overall quickness deficit, I expect this to be a definite weakness of next year's team.
- Overall guard play -- with so many new players in the back court, the overall strength of Kentucky's back court is looking very suspect at the moment. Despite what should be better ball-handling, passing and depth, I can foresee that the combination of a lack of experience and lack of perimeter shooting in the Cats back court will be a definite weakness early in the season. If we see rapid improvement there, it might be a non-factor or possibly even a strength by March, but in the first part of the season, look for the back court to struggle.
- Scoring -- Last year, scoring was a problem because the Cats were too easy to guard with only three proven scorers -- Patterson, Bradley and Crawford. Next year, it will be a lack of proven scorers that once again threatens to make Kentucky a very low-scoring, defensive-oriented team. Despite better athleticism and a deeper bench, there are only two proven scorers on this team -- Patterson and Meeks, and both those worthies are returning from significant injuries. The New and Improved Perry Stevenson may provide us with some scoring punch, but after that, the well looks pretty dry unless one of the JUCO's or Darius Miller steps up and becomes a reliable scorer.
OK, that is a look at the first two elements of my analysis, Strengths and Weaknesses. Next, we will be taking a look at the Opportunities and Threats that face the Wildcats in the SEC in 2008-09. After that, I'll tie it all together and come up with some very, very early projections.
UPDATE Friday 16 May 2008: Due to JL's awesome and unexpected offering (and my own fatigue), I will be postponing the rest of this until Saturday morning sometime. Sorry, chirop1. :-)
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Excellent analysis...
You touched on everything I could think of. Losing jasper hurts because of the ball handling and passing but as long as Liggins qualifies I think him and Galloway can fill his spot very nicely. You are right that the Perimeter game may be our biggest weakness but I am hoping that the interior passing of “our three ‘sons”(Patterson, Stevenson, Harrelson) will open the outside game. THose three could remind of us the Hayes and Daniels days of great passing leading to the best shot. If those three control the lane like I hope they can it will open the perimeter for our shooters. Miller, Liggins, Meeks, Porter should all be able to hit the threes if they are as open as I believe they will be because of our inside guys.
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by GoCats on May 15, 2008 8:03 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Our three "sons"
I can see that nickname hanging around for a while. Good stuff! :)
by Acdixon on May 16, 2008 9:07 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
wishful thinking on the perimeter
It may be a stretch to rely on freshmen walk-ons but Landon Slone and Adam Delph are both perimeter threats. If they can hold their own on the defensive end they could give us some minutes and put up a couple threes.
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by GoCats on May 15, 2008 8:35 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
True ...
... but we rarely see that happen in real life.
Still, you can’t discount the possibility that we could get some help from unexpected places. But I think Slone and Delph’s biggest contribution will be in practice, forcing UK’s back court players to guard the three well. But I don’t discount the possibility that one or both of them may contribute, it has certainly happened before.
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by Truzenzuzex on May 15, 2008 8:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Three items
- Has DeAndre Liggins cleared his academic eligibility problems? Last information I could Google was from Jody Demling in April. And I seem to recall our new buddy Marc Maggard mentioning on his show this week that DeAndre wasn’t 100% finished with those problems.
- His freshman year, Jodie Meeks improved his defense dramatically under Tubby. He wasn’t a half-bad defender by the end of the season. I think he being hindered by his hip pointer really screwed his on-ball defending last year.
- Your numero uno weakness should be “Lead Guard.” If we learned anything last year, it was the Lead Guard position is crucial and very difficult to master. Without Jasper, we have Porter (who physical limitations often get exploited by better talent) and Galloway (a transfer) trying to jump further into the system. Poor play from the Lead Guard position really kills us, as the non-conference schedule proved.
Another rec from me, Tru!
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by TheFakeGimelMartinez on May 15, 2008 8:44 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
One follow-up item
In point numero three above, I neglected to mention Liggins’ potental as the Lead Guard. The knock against him, of course, is he’s a natural freshman.
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by TheFakeGimelMartinez on May 15, 2008 8:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Number 1 ...
... and number three fall under the rubric of “threats” rather than weaknesses.
Never criticize a SWOT analysis until you have seen it all. :) Just kidding! :)
Thanks for the rec. And good point about Meeks, he may prove me wrong there and I hope so. But I have yet to see him play the kind of defense that we need, and although he is capable, I just don’t believe he has made that Crawfordesque leap yet. I hope that he will, and I expect Gillispie will settle for nothing less.
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by Truzenzuzex on May 15, 2008 8:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Missed a double-negative?
If [Jasper] happens to hang around, I cannot imagine that our assists will go up significantly.
Did you mean this or the opposite? Judging from the context, I’m guessing the opposite- that you can imagine that our assists will go up.
by EEWildcat on May 15, 2008 9:17 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Good post, but. . .
If I’m jumping the gun before the rest of your analysis, my apologies. I just wanted to point out that you made it through all of that without mentioning Ramon Harris or A.J. Stewart. Have we already forgotten Harris’ defensive beauty towards the end of the season (and the beginnings of some offensive aggressiveness)? Or that A.J. came in as a pretty highly touted recuit – perhaps he’s developed a lot and can contribute on that front line just as much as P.Steve or Harrelson can?
Both of those guys, especially Ramon (who may likely start all season), may just have a LOT to offer next season.
by blbskue on May 15, 2008 9:25 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree ...
... and the lack of mention wasn’t out of disrespect.
Both Harris and Stewart are role players, but as far as I can see at the moment, they aren’t linchpins of the team. Harris’ defense is of course a major reason why Kentucky did so well defensively last year, and although I didn’t single him out, I deleted several lines with his name in it.
The role Harris will likely play is defensive stopper, but that tends to get subsumed into the larger picture, and I envision both Darius Miller and Kevin Galloway as helping carry that attitude to the second squad. But as we will see later in the analysis, Galloway, Porter, Liggins, Meeks and Patterson are the five around which this team will succeed or fail, in my assessment. You’ll see what I mean in the second part.
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by Truzenzuzex on May 15, 2008 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love Harris
And I really hope Harris elevates his status with everyone from “role player” to “pivotal teammate”.
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by TheFakeGimelMartinez on May 15, 2008 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Harris
You don’t actually love Ramon Harris… you’re just hoping that somehow Gillispie will recruit someone with the last name Nash so we can have our very own Razor Ramon filling out UK’s version of “The Outsiders.” Complete with player introductions to be introduced by a wolf howling…
Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."
by chirop1 on May 15, 2008 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That would be great!
Of course, it’d be even better if it happened at NC State (“The Wolfpack”), with a different “Ramon” of course. We’re keeping ours! Maybe if Shaq hangs around another few years, he and Harris could be on the same NBA team. Then they’d at least have Razor Ramon and Diesel.
realizes he’s just shown he knows way more about professional wrestling than someone with an M.S. in Computer Science should!
by Acdixon on May 16, 2008 9:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Point
Good analysis. Looking forward to the rest.
I saw Liggins last December at Marshal County’s HOOPFEST, and he CAN move the ball up the floor VERY well with the pass, as you said Tru. His team-mates cost him at least six assists, because they couldn’t finish layups on the break. Had they done so, he would have been in Derrick Rose territory for the HOOPFEST assist record. I don’t think that he will disappoint us.
by racercat98 on May 15, 2008 9:45 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Three Point Shooting
Billy Gillispie touched on this on his last call-in show. Essentially, he says that by taking better shot selection, the team will improve on its three point % (shocking!). As far as the no. of threes taken, BCG believes that the number attempted was appropriate for last year team because the lack of overall talent. However, he did prefer to shoot more threes.
So where would this new found perimeter offense come from? One player that Gillispie expects to make threes next year is Patrick Patterson! Imagine how his stock would rise if he could consistently make three pointers! If PP, Meeks, and Miller can makes shots from the perimeter, we’ll be okay. Also, since the line moves back, threes may become a smaller part of the game anyways.
Here’s the link http://stream.hostinteractive.com/links/uk/2008/03/2008_0324_bkm_cis.asx
(18:30 in and 36 minutes in to the clip)
by Thomas Hunt Morgan on May 15, 2008 11:39 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I listened to the clips...
...and I think Gillispie’s comments were very interesting. Yet I still have a difficult time seeing PPat standing out beyond the three point line jacking up treys. He’s much much too effective a rebounder to have him extending that far from the basket and much too effective at closer, higher percentage ranges; nevermind the fact that defenses are going to be collapsing to double-team him again this year, leaving Harrellson wide open for those 17-18 footers he’s supposed to be so good at.
Everything should run through Patrick again this year and if he’s standing behind the arc (I say standing because he doesn’t have the handle to create his own shot) waiting to shoot a three he loses his ability to attract double and triple teams. He learned to pass effectively out of the post last year as the season wore on and he’ll be even better this year. I’d prefer to see him taking 16-18 footers, but not much further away than that. Same for Josh and Perry. Also, we have a wealth of wing/perimeter players I’d prefer taking those three point attempts over PPat: Darius Miller, Harris, Meeks, Galloway, and even Liggins. I’d prefer all of them take the three point attempts. Let Patrick, Josh, and Perry trade off the high and low post positions, rebound, take medium range jumpers, and set up those other players for their 3-point attempts.
Offensively speaking I think that there are two keys next year, which Tru touched on:
1. Point Guard Play: Assuming DJ is gone, much depends on how quickly Kevin and Deandre pick up Gillispie’s sets. If they can adjust quickly and limit their turnovers, they are said to have all of the athletic and size to do a great job. I think more depends on their mental development than their physical early in the season.
2. Darius Miller: I think Darius is going to surprise a lot of people with his offensive capabilities next year. Rumors are that the coaching staff think that many have underestimated him, maybe due to his unselfish play and calm on-court demeanor. If Darius is as good as I hope he is going to be, I think we’ll end up being much better offensively than we were last year, especially once SEC play begins. His development and contribution will be key next year.
by BBallSophist on May 15, 2008 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Another great piece from Truzenzuzex
You know… I see flash in the pan posters come through and accuse the people on this board of “having dinner with the Easter Bunny” and “wearing blinders” and all sorts of other derogetories. Its a real shame those people are never around when a strong insightful piece that honestly takes a real hard look at what this team can and can’t do next year.
Well done old chap.
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by chirop1 on May 15, 2008 2:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Thanks ...
... I appreciate it.
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by Truzenzuzex on May 15, 2008 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes, really
This is a great, insightful post. Gets me even more excited for basketball season, and I’m ALWAYS excited for basketball season. Posts like this make me not understand how the blog-haters-like that Buzz Bissenger guy, or whatever his name is who railed against sports blogs on that show with Bob Costas recently-can be so judgmental and narrow-minded. This blog, for one, is FULL of thoughtful and smart analysis that’s every bit as good, and often more in-depth and just better than you get from professional sportswriters, and doesn’t in any way fit into the dumb juvenille name-calling and rumor-spreading fan blog stereotype. I don’t think some of these snotty old fart sportswriters exactly try too hard to read and appreciate the better blogs—couldn’t froth at the mouth about the interlopers if they did that.
Anyway—rant over : ) Good stuff as usual.
by blue kentucky girl on May 15, 2008 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Threes
I dont expect threes to become less of the game just because the line is moving back. The college three point line was much too close to start with. I can consistently hit shots in game about two to three feet behind it and these college players are much stronger than me.
As far as PPat hitting three that would be great for both him and us. He would be a much more valuable NBA player is he can step out and hit the J as well as he posts up. I have also heard Billy G say that Perry Stevenson is developing a three point shot and that his jumper would be much improved next season.
I think one thing we really havent thought about because we havent had a chance to see is how G will develop players in the offspring now that he has had them in his system for a year and is more familiar with their strenghts and weaknesses. Jasper or no jasper I am very excited about next season and thin we will see a lot of development in the returning players.
DEEETROIT BASKETBALLL!!!
by davw83 on May 15, 2008 3:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Good point
on the off season development of the players. I think we all know it took quite a while for last year’s team to buy the new Coach’s philosophy. Once they did, however, all players improved tremendously: Stevenson, Harris, the seniors, etc. If the team can improve that much over conference play, I’d love to see what they do with individual workouts and some time. Should be interesting at least.
by Thomas Hunt Morgan on May 15, 2008 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just Like The 1998 Cats
It took them a while to buy into a new coaching philosphy, but when they did, good things happened.
by FortyYearCatFan on May 15, 2008 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hard to judge
Until we know all the pieces that will be in play. Liggins will make a huge difference if he gets qualified and by force of necessity the scoring will be more balanced. Depth at key positions such as PF and PG are what are worrying me. If the injury bug bites us again next season could be abysmal or if everything falls into place it could be spectacular so the full range of possibilities are in play right now and we won’t be able to get a better idea of what is going to happen until all the players are known as is their health and academic status.
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by Crow on May 15, 2008 7:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If Everyone Healthy And Qualified
UK will be 2 deep at every lineup spot, with or without Jasper.
10+ W in OOC schedule. 12 W in SEC. 2 or 3 W in SECT. 1 or 2 W in NCAA = 25+ W in 2008-09 season.
by FortyYearCatFan on May 15, 2008 8:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I demand part 2!!!!!!
I’ve been at work for two hours now and I’m really in desperate need of part two of the SWOT!
Tru! Wake up and get to work!!!
Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."
by chirop1 on May 16, 2008 8:58 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I have always wondered
what doctors are ACTUALLY doing while I am waiting impatiently in the waiting room. Now I know…...they are addicted to blogging!
J/K : )
I am also waiting, rather impatiently I might add….for part 2!
by BigSkyCat on May 16, 2008 9:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The ones without TV's in their office...
Are either playing World of Warcraft or reviewing blogs.
(I know I’m not alone in the WoW thing either… I know an optomotrist that does it too.)
Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."
by chirop1 on May 16, 2008 9:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry ...
coming later today. I have a big shipment that has to go out Monday from VA, and I have to manage the logistics from here. Taking up lots of time today. It will probably be this afternoon before I get it up.
$$ comes first. :-)
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by Truzenzuzex on May 16, 2008 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL
That was great.
DEEETROIT BASKETBALLL!!!
by davw83 on May 16, 2008 9:08 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
RE: Tru's Update
I come into the office at 9 EST in the morning… I expect to see part two then. No more mamby-pamby excuses!
Come on Tru! Show us that Ken isn’t the only one around here dedicated to burn the midnight oil for a quality posting!
;-)
Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."
by chirop1 on May 16, 2008 4:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

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