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Goodbye Nicola Kecman--Hello Bobby Maze

Thanks to Aaron's UK Basketball Blog for bringing our attention to some new recruiting nuggets.  Some of the nuggets aren't very tasty, but others are.

Let us begin with the bad: Nicola Kecman has verballed to Ohio State.  The 6'9" Serbian not selecting UK as his college of choice is not all that shocking to most.  Kecman was considered a long-shot to attend UK my most observers.  But his decision does take another big man off of the board.

The more positive news concerns a JUCO All-America out of Hutchinson Community College in Kansas.  Bobby Maze a 6'2" ( some say 6'3" ) point guard has evidently drawn the discerning eye of Billy Gillispie.  

Maze has taken an unusual path to where he is today; he attended Suitland HS in Forestville, Maryland until his senior year.  He then transferred to The Patterson School in North Carolina for a year of prep school. This move was supposedly made to shore up his academic standing in the hopes that he would qualify to play as a freshman.

The tactic worked as Maze signed with Oklahoma out of high school ( '06 ).  After missing the first seven games of his freshman season while recovering from a broken foot, Maze put together a solid first year.  He averaged 5.6 points per game, 2.1 assists per game, while shooting 45% from the field, and 70% from the foul line.  He played an average of 18.6 minutes per game.

After the season Maze was either dismissed from the team by head coach Jeff Capel, or Capel and Maze "came to an understanding" which resulted in him transferring.  The Tulsa World newspaper reported that Capel asked Maze to leave because of his "practice habits and overall attitude".  Maze claims the move was a mutual agreement.

Maze then transferred to Hutchinson CC.  Maze had a tremendous year at Hutchinson.  He earned All-America honors, and garnered much interest from high-major Division I coaches.  His Hutchinson numbers are as follows; 20.7 points per game, 6.8 assists per game, he shot 50.5% from the field and 72.9% from the free throw line.  

In December of '07 Maze orally committed to Maryland.  Maryland head coach Gary Williams "backed off of the committment" recently, which has re-opened the recruiting battle for the point guard.  According to Ryan Swanson (formerly head coach at St. Catharine's College), Hutchinson CC head coach, Maze has drawn interest from Cincinnati, Kentucky and St. Johns. Wichita St. and Southern Cal have also reportedly been asking about Maze.  Swanson said visits have already been scheduled for Cincinnati and Kentucky, and he may visit St. Johns.

For those who care: Out of high school Maze selected Oklahoma over Wake Forest, Cincinnati, Kansas State, and Seton Hall.  Reportedly Tulane, Tennessee, and Auburn were also suitors for his services.

In Maze's senior year he was ranked #135 by Rivals.

There is a pretty impressive accumulation of recruiting service comments about Maze from '05 and '06.  AUTHOR'S NOTE: Remain calm while reading.  Most of the comments are glowing in nature.

There is this article which can best be described as a human-interest story on Maze.  

The young man certainly seems talented.  I am a bit leery of the alleged "attitude" problem though, especially with a kid who is considering playing for Billy Gillispie.  But, Gillispie has encountered a variety of attitudes in his many years in coaching, and I will trust his decison-making when it comes to who he thinks he can successfully coach (in my book he gets a mulligan for Legion).

Lastly, I would like to know why Gary Williams pulled the offer to Maze.  The timeline of events suggests that Williams knew the particulars of why Maze was bounced from Oklahoma.  Surely before he offered the scholarship, Williams spoke with Jeff Capel about Maze.  One would think something else may have spooked the Terrapins coach away from the seemingly very talented player (could it be academics?).  Afterall, Maryland is in more desperate need of a talent inlux than even UK.

If Jasper leaves as expected, and Liggins doesn't qualify, then UK will be in dire need of point guard help.  Paul MCoy is out there and available, but Bobby Maze may prove to have a more immediate impact on the team than a true freshman.  Kevin Galloway is certainly an option at the "lead" guard, but having another player legitimately competing for the position makes me feel much more comfortable as a fan.

And so goes the Texas Tornado ripping down the road.

       

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General consensus
seems to be that Maze has never been very interested in attending class, either at Oklahoma or Hutch CC.  I saw one comment that Maryland admissions did not accept his transcripts, but cannot find any reliable source on that.  (And Patterson School is in NC).    

by rockatao on Apr 27, 2008 6:43 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Maze ...
does not look like a good fit at UK to me.  He falls under the rubric of "troubled" young man.

He came from a very bad background (not his fault) and scrambled up to become a good player.  Unfortunately, he has not really cleaned up his act, and Gillispie does not need a Derrick Caracter on this team.

I hope he winds up elsewhere.  We need his skills, but not his 'tude.  "Troubled" players should look 75 miles west of Lexington, where the "Great rehabilitator" resides.

:-)

by Truzenzuzex on Apr 27, 2008 9:43 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Maze's Troubles
If in fact Maze has trouble finding his way to the classroom, then skepticism is definitley called for.  In all of the reading I did on the subject I did not see anything that made me think the kid didn't go to class, but of course that doesn't necessarily mean anything.

I probably have a divergent view on this issue from most 'Cat fans, but I think Gillispie knows who he can, and can't deal with.  

If the Tulsa World is correct and Maze was dismissed from Oklahoma for "practice habits" that certainly makes me wonder about his effort while practicing.  I also am puzzled as to why a player of alleged bad practice habits would consider playing for Gillispie.  Surely Swanson, Maze's coach at Hutch, has clued in the young man to the demanding style of Gillispie.  Th converse is also true, why would Gillispie pursue a kid with questionable desire for practice.

Many questions, and allegations.  Which leads me back to believing Gillispie knows what he's doing as far as player selection.  My faith in Clyde had better be properly placed, because UK fans, rightfully so, don't accept the BS of a selfish player who can potentially screw-up the lockerroom dynamic, as well as cause embarrassment to the University.    

by Ken Howlett on Apr 27, 2008 3:27 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Just found
another item that Maze needs six hours in summer school to get his AA and become eligible for next year.  Assuming he passes all his current courses, that's a reasonable amount to get done this summer.  So, eligibility doesn't seem to be a major issue here.

by rockatao on Apr 27, 2008 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

6 hours isn't excessive at all.
If my fading memory serves me, that should be only 2 classes.  I have no idea how "lenient" Hutch is about players not attending class, but if he's on-target with his current class load to graduate, then maybe he's matured to the point of at least going to class.

By the way, Chris Todd, former Elizathbethtown HS QB, transferred from Texas Tech to Hutchinson, and will be attending Auburn in the fall (he followed former UK 0ff. coordinator Tony Franklin from Troy)

Rumors were that Flemings needed up to 21 hours this summer to qualify.  I didn't think one could take 21 summer class hours.

by Ken Howlett on Apr 27, 2008 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The FACTS
  1. Maze graduated from Suitland HS; then he attended Patterson for exposure.
  2. Maze was not dissmissed from OU. He left the program because it did not fit his style of play.  If he was dismissed Capel would have stated that.
  3. Poor practice habits not true, sources tell me that Maze is a gym rat.
  4. Maryland -  thought there point guard GV was going to enter the NBA draft, once they found out he wasn't the staff decided the need was more at the 2 guard then the 1, but did not know what to tell Maze.
  5. Classes - Did any of you ever have classes with MAZE to know he did or did not attend classes. Because from what I hear OU had class room checker's.
  6. It's sad that people seem to know more about this guy then he know's about him self.

by fan4life on Apr 27, 2008 8:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

RE: fan4life
Everything I read indicated that Maze attended Patterson for the reason I state in the above article.  Of course, those reports could be inaccurate.

As far as Maze NOT being dismissed from Oklahoma, well, there is a ton of evidence that points towards that NOT being the case. This Tulsa World article intimates just the opposite.  But, I do leave open the possibility of Maze and Capel coming to a "mutual agreement".

As far as the alleged poor practice habits, see above article.

I have a very hard time believing Gary Williams pulled an offered schollie because a current Terp decided to stay in school.  That move would be as unethical a decision that a head coach could make.  Not even taking into consideration that Maze is a very talented player and considered a combo guard by some (although he doesn't shoot 3's very well).  Plus, Maryland needs all the help it can get.

I don't think one has to witness the kid not going to class to know he did not.  Because OU has "classroom checkers" is irrelevent to whether Maze attended or not.  Or, perhaps that's why he was suspended for a game in December.  I don't know, and neither do you.  All we have to go on are published reports.  

by Ken Howlett on Apr 27, 2008 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

By the way ...
... Maze did attend Suitland for 4 years and not 3 (I have terminated my fact checker:).

by Ken Howlett on Apr 27, 2008 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well ...
#2 is subject to debate.  Most Oklahoma insiders say that Maze was essentially given the choice to leave or be kicked off, and he chose the former.  The reason given by most was a poor attitude, though I can't find where Capel ever said that in print, but "people close to the program" have intimated that to several outlets.

Based on his comments in the article I linked above, I am inclined to believe it, though.

I don't think Kentucky needs "troubled" players, and Maze strikes me as one of those.  I don't dispute your points about classes and Maryland, but I do dispute your account of his OU experience -- there is more reason to believe that his leaving was involuntary than otherwise, if you read around about him.  That doesn't make him a bad kid, but his "frenetic playing style" are not a fit for Gillispie's more structured system, and he doesn't strike me, by what I've read, as the kind of player that will tolerate Gillispie's tough-as-nails style.

Opinions vary, and I'm not saying you're wrong.  I just don't think, based on what I know, Maze is a fit here.  If Gillispie thinks otherwise, who am I to gainsay him?  In the end, it doesn't matter what I think, it's what Coach Gillispie thinks.

But I do have an opinion about it, and it is as informed as anyone else's I know of.

by Truzenzuzex on Apr 27, 2008 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

What....
Since you know so much tell me why did Gary William sign Evans who has a criminal record over Maze who has none.  You tell me who is a problem.

I am not saying your not entiled to an opinion, I'm just saying get your facts straight.  

As far the Tulsa article is concern, they did not want to except the fact the Maze and Capel had a agreement.  As far as I am concern Maze and OU is water under the brige that was 2006 this is 2008.  You can't continue to judge someone on there past and ear say.  There where several other articles backing MAZE.  As far as his attitude is concern read every article that Hutchinson news online wrote on Maze.  I believe MAZE can get the job done at UK.    

by fan4life on Apr 28, 2008 8:59 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

My facts ...
are perfectly straight, and have been all along.

I guess we will just agree to disagree if Maze is a good fit at UK.

As far as your question about Evans, I wonder how this is relevant to Maze?  I never suggested that Maze was a criminal, or that he was ever in trouble.  My perception is that he has an attitude problem, and I don't think he would fit in with Gillispie's system.  I believe the reports that Maze's attitude was what led to the separation at OU.

Maze is, in fact, not qualified at the moment.  That seems passing strange given the fact that he attended prep school after going to high school for 4 years -- a prep school that was then considered a "diploma mill" by the NCAA -- then attended OU for a semester.  Assuming he left OU in good standing, most if not all of those OU credit hours should have transfered to his JC.  He has been at the JC for two additional years, and despite that head start, still has not graduated with his Associates.  He is within reach (I have heard he needs six more hours over the summer, which is very, very doable), but one wonders why he has not been able to attain an associates degree with 2 1/2 years of trying.

All this and reports of attitude problems lead me to believe that Maze is an undisciplined player who is likely to clash with a disciplinarian like Gillispie.

That's all I'm saying.

by Truzenzuzex on Apr 28, 2008 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wrong
Maze has not been in JUCO for 2 1/2 years. He attended OU; then he went to HUTCHINSON.  Since you can't seem to post any postive articles on MAZE... Her is one...from Hutchinson news online.  There are nothing but good articles on MAZE at Hutchinson news....Beside he is only an 1st Team All American, Jayhawk Conference player of the year and Western Division Most Valuable Player.

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Maze's attitude just as impressive as he playBrad Hallier columnAlmost everywhere I've covered Hutchinson Community College men this season, there has been one common theme.

People are impressed with sophomore point guard Bobby Maze.

Even on the road, fans groan when they realize just how good Maze is. His soft shot near the basket. His sick crossover dribble that has frozen more than enough opposing players this season. His crisp passing. His acceleration in transition. And of course, those alley-oop passes to forwards Antonio Weary or Ken Bowman remind me of the only other basketball player that I've seen toss an alley-oop pass better than Maze - former Kansas star Jacque Vaughn.

Throughout the year, I - along with almost everyone else - have been nothing short of a-maze-d with Maze.

But slowly, I've come to realize Maze is more than just a spectacular basketball player.

It's easy enough to like Maze as a basketball player. In my four-plus years covering junior college basketball, I have not seen a player as fluid as Bobby Maze.

But let's look at what makes Maze even more likeable.

First of all, he's a transfer from Oklahoma. In other words, he was playing in one of the premier college basketball conferences last year. He played against Kevin Durant, Acie Law, Julian Wright, Brandon Rush and Sherron Collins - who Maze shut out during a time when Collins was Kansas' best player.

When major college basketball players transfer to junior college, their attitude is usually "I'm better than this."

Not Maze. He's embraced Hutchinson. He's embraced wearing a Blue Dragon uniform. You'd never know that Maze was playing on ESPN 12 months ago.

Coach Ryan Swanson said once before a game, Maze made up a song about how great it was to be a Blue Dragon. He even got some of his teammates to sing along.

He wants to win in the worst way. After an early-season loss to Arkansas-Fort Smith, Maze did a postgame interview near the locker room, and then walked into the empty small gym, clapping his hands and shouting in frustration.

But here's what I like most about Maze - the way he treats other people.

Because of his basketball - and occasional wild hairstyle - Maze has become a celebrity with kids. One made a sign for him while sporting an afro wig during a game a few weeks ago. The kid wanted to meet Maze, and Maze was all smiles while meeting the kid and signing an autograph.

Kids have gone into the locker room after games, and Maze clowns around with them. He loves spending time with kids.

Maze also loves succeeding on the court, and he knows that's not possible without every Blue Dragon being successful. He wants to see every teammate do something well on the court, and he's the first to talk about them.

Last Wednesday, the Blue Dragons had just beaten Dodge City into a 40-point pulp. What did Maze like most about the win? Not the scoring, rebounding or defense. No, what made Maze happy was that reserve forward Ryan Douvier got a few minutes of playing time at the end of the game.

"Nothing makes me feel better than seeing Douvier for five minutes out there," Maze said. "We see what he can do everyday in practice, but the fans don't. Seeing him play ... that was good to see."

Saturday was much of the same. While Maze was unstoppable with 29 points in an 11-point win against Pratt, Maze again was praising teammates who don't get much love in the boxscore.

Maze insisted it wasn't his scoring that turned the game. It was the defense of freshman guards Sam Edwards, Blake Bales and Derek Burgan. Maze also praised sophomore center Abdul Herrera, calling his seven points, seven rebounds and six blocks, "the best basketball he's played all year."

It's not easy to find a player like Bobby Maze. It's even tougher to find a junior college basketball player with the attitude Bobby Maze has.

by fan4life on Apr 28, 2008 11:39 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Two things ...
One, I never said he was a JUCO for 2 1/2 years.  What I said was he had one semester at OU, and assuming he was in good standing when he transferred, all or most of those credits would have transferred to Hutchinson.  He had 2 full years there, plus the credits earned from his half-year at OU.  That is equivalent to having 2 1/2 years to work on a 2-year degree, which he still has not finished.

Two, please don't post articles in their entirety, it is a copyright violation.  Link them, or just post the URL, if you please.

And I do understand that Hutchinson has posted some nice things about Maze, but they aren't exactly a disinterested party, you know.

I'm not saying there isn't anything positive about Maze, there surely is.  I just don't think he is a fit here at UK.  Obviously, you hold the opposite view, which is fine by me.

by Truzenzuzex on Apr 28, 2008 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maze
There are literally hundreds, if not thousands of pages of information on Maze.  Considering that fact, I attempted to paint as unbiased a portrait of the young man as possible.  I included in my article a very nice "human-interest" piece by the Hutchinson CC "newsletter" (which is a positive article, by the way).  In this particular situation I can only offer a report on material I have read, not on personal experience with the young man, for I have never met him.  I did not include in my article the opinion that the The Patterson School is, as Tru states, "a diploma mill", even though that statement is probably fact.

As far as him leaving OU, I was very clear about the conflicting reports that exists as to his leaving.  How someone would know that the Tulsa World did not want to accept the manner in which Maze left is beyond me, unless one works for the paper.

No one has far as I can tell has "trashed" the young man, Tru has only stated that Maze, in his opinion, would not be a good fit for UK and Gillispie.  Maze isn't the only player that some have felt would not be a good fit for UK, for various reasons.  It is not uncommon for some to feel less than excited about the potential of any given player suiting up for UK.  

Even though I agree with Tru most of the time, I happen to feel a bit differently than him about Maze attending UK.  In my view, Gillispie's judgment about the viablility of Maze as a UK player overrides what some would describe as his troubled past.
     

by Ken Howlett on Apr 28, 2008 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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