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A somewhat belated review of the Derby Festival Classic

OK, I finally got around to watching the Derby Festival Classic replay.  I was surprised at the difference between what I saw in that game and what others saw, but there are a number of things everyone can agree on.

What I'm going to do here is give you an impression of each Kentucky commit or recruit.  Keep in mind that this was an all-star game with very little offensive or defensive organization.  It really amounts to just a pick-up 5-on-5 like you would play with your friends at any gym or outdoor court in the land.  With that said, here are my impressions (keep in mind that I am not a professional talent evaluator and I don't play one on the Internet):

DeAndre Liggins

DeAndre Liggins was simply one of the best out there.  He scored very little, but he was incredible at starting the break and getting the ball in scoring position -- fast.  He is athletic, but not amazingly so.  Liggins is a better ballhandler than anyone currently on Kentucky's team, and that includes Derrick Jasper.  I can't comment on Galloway, but Liggins is not a "point forward," he is a 6'6" pass-first point guard with great court vision and no selfishness at all.  He loves to get the ball down the floor quickly, but does it with the pass as opposed to the dribble like the Kansas PG recruit, Drew, or Paul McCoy.  Liggins always has his head up and should have had at least 4 more assists than he officially recorded.  One was taken away when Zeller missed an unopposed fast-break layup, and two more were taken away on goaltends by Majok after layups hung on the rim.  The fourth was on a turnover in the open court that should have been a layup.  One assist he did make was to himself on an inbound, where he deliberately bounced the ball off the back of a player to himself and put the ball in.

Liggins is the kind of player that makes you feel very comfortable with the ball in his hands.  He is confident, he plays with his head up and his passing ability is the best I have seen in a Kentucky recruit since Rajon Rondo.  Like Rondo, he occasionally tries to force the ball into a place where it simply can't go, but every one of those times was close to a spectacular assist.  His jumpshot is mechanically sound, but he lacks confidence and needs to finish his release.

Darius Miller

Two words -- smooth athlete.  Miller made a couple of shots that could only be described as "circus shots."   Miller was very passive most of this game, tending to stay on the perimeter and  try to involve his teammates.  He is a solid passer and ballhandler, but he looked to me like he simply didn't want to be noticed out there.  Not sure why.  Miller had very little impact on the game aside from a couple of amazing layups and a really nice fade-away in the lane but he hustled and tried to get his teammates the ball.  He will contribute next year, although it looks to me like he lacks confidence against quality competition, which I found a bit surprising.  It could also be that he just wasn't feeling himself.

Miller has great ability and is fundamentally sound in every aspect of the game.  He will develop quickly and become the scoring threat that Ramon Harris is not (yet, anyway).  I think Miller can become a lock-down defender like Harris.  He has a great body and is more athletic and skilled right now than Harris.  His determination and intensity are question marks based on this game.

Ater Majok

Majok is an extremely talented offensive player for someone who has been playing for such a short time.  If he has any post up skills at all, they were never in evidence in this game -- he appears to be a purely face-up player.  He plays above the rim, long and lean but not skinny.  I never was able to get a good look at the mechanics of his release, but I can tell you one thing -- he put the ball into the basket.  He made one 3-pointer from about 25 feet, and is a fearless offensive player.  His ballhandling is just average.  Majok is not a 4 at all, he is more of a big 3 in the mold of Kevin Durant, but lacks the passing and ballhandling skills of that comparison.  He can block shots, but he accumulated a large number of fouls for an all-star game and had two unnecessary goaltends.  He hustles and plays hard, but is not really the cerebral type of player you might expect.

Majok could develop into a one-and-done player, but if so it will be more for upside than actual skill.  He needs to work on a lot of things, particularly his footwork around the basket, physicality and his shot selection -- a couple of the shots he made were not good shots, they just went in.  Even though Majok does not really fit our current needs as well as other players do, we could not pass him up if he wanted to come here.  He will be playing in the Association someday, and that someday is not more than 3 years hence.

Maurice Sutton

Sutton has received accolades from many for his performance in this game, but some have suggested he collected a lot of "garbage" points.  This is not so.  Most of Sutton's points came from good positioning, running the floor, and a surprisingly capable face-up game.  Sutton is not a redux of Perry Stevenson at all -- Sutton has strong, thick calves and a powerful lower body.  His upper body is weaker and his shoulders are a bit narrow, a la Stevenson, but Sutton can easily pack on 25 more pounds without difficulty.  Sutton has surprisingly good hands, and looked very comfortable with the basketball away from the basket.  He even launched a last-second 3 from about 23 feet that nearly went in.

Sutton's shot mechanics are not that great.  His shot is a little long hand he cups his shooting hand a la DeMarcus Nelson of Duke, but he is comfortable shooting the ball from anywhere inside the 3-point line and made all his free throws.  Sutton also finishes strongly and made one very aggressive move to dunk on another player.  He was fouled, but the move was strong and surprisingly athletic.  This kid has real potential, in my opinion.  You will hear others talk about how Shagari Allene was the MVP of this game and how it means nothing.  I disagree.  This kid has more skills than I expected, and can help us inside.  He has not been offered a scholarship and word on the street is that he is being held as a backup plan, probably to Harrellson.

Paul McCoy

To my mind, McCoy was the least impressive of any of the potential Kentucky players.  McCoy prefers to advance the ball on the dribble, but did not show the kind of sure-handedness with the ball that Liggins showed.  He is quite athletic and could develop into a good defender, but as a point guard, he would likely see very little time next year.  His shot mechanics are very sound, but he releases the ball a little too far to the left, causing most of his misses to be on the right side.  His mechanics will not require much work, though, and he could quickly become a dangerous 3-point shooter.

But in this game, he looked overmatched.  He just doesn't have the ballhandling or passing skills at this point to be a big help, and his game lacks polish and confidence.  I never felt like he was comfortable out there running the point, and it showed up in his lack of statistical impact.

Other notes:

  • U of L recruits Swopshire and Jennings are both dynamic athletes.  They will make an already good U of L team better next year, no question.
  • Kansas' Relaford was a black hole -- the ball went to him but never came back.  He scored a lot of his points in transition.  If he is a team player, it was not in evidence in this game.
  • UCLA got a good one in Anderson.  Solid with the ball and a pretty good shooter.  Good passer and very athletic.
  • Tyler Zeller is a face-up 4.  To slow to play the three, but has the best shot mechanics of any player I saw.  His post-up game was not very good, and he doesn't finish well around the basket.  Plays soft.
  • Yancy Gates (Cincinnati) - Wow.  Just wow.  I sure wish he was on our side.  Huge space-eater with skills.
  • Thompkins (Georgia) -- Had a great game, showed good range for a big man and was active inside.  Ready to start from day one.  Likely FOY candidate next year in the SEC.  Very sound fundamentally.
  • Drew (UNC) -- Capable point guard, but moves the ball on the dribble rather than the pass.  Streaky shooter.  I like Liggins better.
  • Singleton (Fla. State) -- Some good, some bad.  Not as athletic as I expected, but has a decent handle and can shoot with range.
  • Ray Shipman (Florida) -- Annoying player, but a fine scorer.  Can slash and shoot.  Great pickup for Donovan, but his attitude for this game was Noah-esque.  Will add the athleticism the Gators were missing last year.
  • Kadji (Florida) -- Will help the Gators where they need it most, in the paint.  Solid, but not spectacular game.  Big, but not particularly athletic.

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I really think it must be in the Florida coaching contract that they must have at least one totally annoying (but just as annoyingly good) player on the roster at all times - Walsh, Noah, Calethes...  sounds like Shipman really found his "home."  ;)

by kentuckygirl0724 on Apr 22, 2008 10:33 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

McCoy
Thats the best report on the DFC that I have read.

I thought your comments on McCoy sounded like you could have been talking about Porter, except the "quite athletic" part.

by Slim Wagers on Apr 22, 2008 11:46 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Interesting observation.
I think that McCoy is rather more similar to Porter than any other player currently on our team.  He is about the same size, but he is much faster with the ball in his hands than Porter, and significantly more of a run-and-jump athlete than Porter is.

McCoy also has a much quicker release on his shot than Porter does, but he isn't as accurate at this point in time.  He has small mechanical problems that need to be solved.

by Truzenzuzex on Apr 22, 2008 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

DC Review
I was at the Derby Classic also, and some of the comments I've seen since then have left me thinking, "what game were they watching?", but this rundown here was dead on.  

The only thing I'd add, is that I think Sutton is more like Stevenson than you said.  Like Stevenson, he gives you the impression that if he were just a little meaner, he'd be a great player, but sort of has that laid-back approach to the game.  Definitely showed some skill though.  Also, I'd say Miller not only showed athleticism but that he can create his own offense.  I think he'll be better offensively maybe than people give him credit for, but you're take on his attitude was perfect.  I don't think he was going out of his way to show much.  The best way to describe Mccoy is to say that he's a slightly better version of Michael Porter.

Glad to see that someone saw the game exactly as I did!  I was beginning to wonder.

by tzuzaki on Apr 22, 2008 1:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Just my opinion...
but I really dont think we need another Michael Porter.

by kentuckygirl0724 on Apr 22, 2008 1:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

3x All-Stater in Calif (Porter)
UK may not need another but I'm glad we have one MP.

by FortyYearCatFan on Apr 22, 2008 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No way
If we have the spot and there aren't many others out there we could definitely use a more athletic version of michael porter.

If he could supplant porter in the rotation you have the potential there for more athletic play, better defense, and less of a drop off in athleticism when the starters leave the floor. You also have to think about practice time and having better subs for the starters to practice against is going to make the team better. At this point if we have the room UK could definitely use him.

DEEETROIT BASKETBALLL!!!

by davw83 on Apr 22, 2008 2:12 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Torn but...
...I think I agree with you.

I know we were well fit this year but still, you can only play so many clicks before the legs go. The nasty D and the methodical O takes a toll on a guy. This was one key reason our leads died late and why we could not make a big run to get past a team but still had it in us to go 1 to 5 ahead before buzzer.

More quality subs is a good thing. Better practice team is VERY important.

by wilson452 on Apr 22, 2008 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Practice
I completely agree about the practice comment.  If you don't have quality competition in practice, you won't be prepared come game time.  It's like "playing to the competition", if you are playing an inferior team or players, you have a much easier time losing your focus and playing poorly than if you are challenged by playing a superior or equally talented opponent.

As for the PG prospects, have we given up on Verdell Jones?  Hmmm.....

by BigSkyCat on Apr 22, 2008 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

hrmn
I hope Jasper sticks around.

by Byron on Apr 22, 2008 7:49 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Basketball is a Passing Game
The only good things I have read or heard about why we are so hot on Liggins came from you, Tru:  (1) He passes the ball up the floor rather than dribbles it, (2) he plays with his head up.  I was high school team manager in the 1950s for a coach who played for Paul McBrayer who was one of Rupp's first All-America players.  His fundamentals were (1) keep your tail down, (2) your head up, and (3) pass, don't dribble, to move the ball up the floor.  This is remarkable for an all-star game.  I know not much defense was played, but did he show that he knows how to get his rear down on defense?  Let's just hope he qualifies academically.  

by Fortunatus on Apr 22, 2008 9:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I'll be honest ...
Liggins has a reputation as a rather poor defender, but it isn't for lack of skills.  I think rather it is just the curse of many programs, particularly prep-school and AAU programs who are loaded with talent and just try to outscore each other.

Defensive fundamentals are rarely seen before college.  Liggins is likely to be no exception to that rule.

But the boy does a great job of getting the ball up the floor in scoring position.  If you can ignore the size and quickness difference, Liggins' game resembles that of Rajon Rondo more than anyone else.  He should be a good defender at the college level.

by Truzenzuzex on Apr 22, 2008 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Starred In Chicago HS Last Year
Liggins was dominant in Chicago HS basketball in 2007. Best player in area as HS junior. Turned 20 in 2008 so ineligible to play HS basketball in Illinois.

by FortyYearCatFan on Apr 23, 2008 7:03 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Darius Miller
Tru's comments about Miller mirror some my own thoughts after watching him in the first round of the State Tournament versus Elliot Co..

I'm not in the kids head, but I think he likes for his teammates to "get into" the game before he asserts his own talents.  Against Elliot Co. he shot maybe once or twice in the first quarter.  At half he had 10, with 8 of those points coming in the last few minutes of the half.  His coach and many others rave about the young man's unselfishness.  Chris O'Hearn his coach at Mason Co., said more than once this past year that he wishes Darius was more selfish.

I don't necessarily think he will arrive on campus and presto he's a starter, but he will contribute next year.  He brings a winning attitude and a boat-load of athleticism.  He also has a proverbial nose for the ball ala Jared Prickett.

I am excited about his future at UK.  He's a quality young man who is very gifted athletically.  

by Ken Howlett on Apr 22, 2008 10:13 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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