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Regarding Hopson

I think it might be a good idea to revise and extend my remarks about Scotty Hopson.

As many of you know by reading me in the threads, I was never high on Scotty Hopson's recruitment.  The kid had a reputation, and that reputation is/was that he was all about Scotty and getting to the Association as fast as possible.  Scotty Hopson was not a Kentucky boy, he was an import from Florida, and it is highly unlikely he grew up a Kentucky fan.  Very early in his recruitment by Kentucky, back during the Tubby Smith days, Hopson made some comments that were very off-putting to me.  I think Smith was very wary of Hopson, and he was not a recruiting priority for him.  Smith made that known, and Hopson reacted by signing with Mississippi State.

Enter Billy Gillispie.  Hopson was waffling on his commitment to MSU the moment Gillispie set foot in the Bluegrass state, and made that fact known to anyone who would listen.  Yet Gillispie refused to take the bait, once apparently referring to Hopson in comments that essentially said he would not recruit an athlete who was committed verbally to another school.  Now, you and I both know that while that attitude is laudable, it is what we used to call "unilateral disarmament" in geopolitics.  Gillispie didn't get the reputation as one of the best recruiters in the nation by unilateral disarmament.

Jeff Drummond of The Cats Pause (subscription required) wrote a post on their subscription board today that essentially says the same thing that I have been thinking -- Gillispie gave the appearance of recruiting Hopson hard to insulate him from accusations of letting another Chris Lofton out of the state.  Do I think Gillispie would have taken Hopson if he had wanted to come?  Yes, you don't turn down McDonalds All-Americans in today's recruiting game, it just isn't done unless there is some kind of eligibility issue.  In the opinion of this writer, though, Gillispie did not make Hopson a priority (even though he may never admit that), and there are good reasons why that happened.  It is clear to me that Hopson would most likely have had difficulty under the kind of coach that Billy Gillispie is, and Gillispie would not have compromised with him.  I am convinced Gillispie knew this since day one, and that's why he seemed to be almost looking for an excuse not to recruit Hopson.  He would have loved to have Hopson's talent, but I don't think he believed Hopson would have been willing to do what the Kentucky coach requires of his charges.

Ultimately, I think Hopson is a much better fit at Tennessee.  I'm not saying that in any way to impute a negative toward Bruce Pearl.  Most of you know how I feel about Pearl, and I am not shy about pointing out the things I dislike about the Sweaty One.  However, I think there is a big difference between the way Pearl and Gillispie relate to players, and both their styles work for them.  Scotty Hopson is more likely to accept Pearl's style than Gillispie's in my opinion.

Matt Jones points out today that losing Hopson to Tennessee is a "big deal" despite what many in the Big Blue Nation say.  I beg to differ with him.  It is not a big deal, it is a relatively small one.  Hopson was never likely to come here, and quite frankly, I think he may have clashed so strongly with Gillispie that the negative outweighed the positive, much as was the case with Alex Legion.  Nobody can say that Legion's sudden departure did not damage the team.  It was a distraction that magnified the difficulty the Wildcats were suffering at the time, and another such case would would force Gillispie to explain why he was "running off" so many high-profile players in the middle of seasons.  With Hopson, it would have been tenfold worse than with Legion because he went to high school in Kentucky, and many Kentucky fans had their hearts set on him.  I think Billy Gillispie knew this all too well.

So in the end, the l'affaire d'Hopson ended much as it began, with Hopson at another school.  To me, it matters only a little that he is now committed to Tennessee rather than Mississippi State.  I have confidence in our program, our coach and our team, and the matriculation of Hopson to UT did nothing at all to shake that.  To the contrary, the way it was handled gave me a new respect for Gillispie's savvy, and just another reason to smile when he gives us that "Aw, shucks, I'm just an ol' country boy" thing he has down pat.

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Hopson
I was never keen on Hopson, for many of the reasons Tru pointed out.  I also think its telling that he wasn't even player of the year in his REGION.  I'd say that says something about the opinion the coaches in his area have of him.
I agree that UT will be a good fit for him, better than at UK.

I think the kid can probably do the math and he realized that minutes at UK would be fewer than at UT just because of the roster.  (Funny that a team that finishes with 18 wins would have fewer minutes for a MickeyD's AA than a school that finished with near 30.)

by chirop1 on Apr 2, 2008 7:48 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Hopson
would have been a nice catch, but I don't like his attitude and I agree with chirop1's comment above - not being POY in his region is just sad, and obviously not because of a lack of talent.

In other news (I haven't seen it posted here), Armon Basset and Jamarcus Ellis have been dismissed from Indiana's roster (dismissed by interim coach, not Crean). Assuming Gordon goes pro, IU will have no returning starters (I guess technically Crawford started a few).

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=3323406

by blbskue on Apr 2, 2008 8:16 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I bet...
That Crean will put them back on the team.  I could be wrong.  I think Danny is upset he didn't get the job.

by richlthompson on Apr 2, 2008 8:53 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hopson
Perfect comment, Truzenzuzex.  I agree with every word of it.

by tzuzaki on Apr 2, 2008 8:20 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

don;t know where to post this, but...
Congrats to Coach Travis Ford. Great win. Love to see his success, especially in beating BD.

by cat woman on Apr 2, 2008 8:28 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah ...
I saw that somewhere and just didn't care enough to post it, but Travis does deserve a lot of credit. I am still steamed that we didn't keep our contract with Umass last year, even if it may have been a loss. But I think Ford has forgiven UK, so maybe I should, too. :-)

by Truzenzuzex on Apr 2, 2008 8:33 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

UMASS Might have been a loss
But how did replacing them on our schedule work out for us?

by BlueBloodedCatsFan on Apr 2, 2008 9:25 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

For what it's worth
and this is not me trying to go the avenue of saying "Hopson isn't good and we didn't need him anyways" that seems to reverberate through UK message boards after a player commits elsewhere, but I have seen Hopson play on several occasions and Tru's analysis seems spot on to me.  More troublesome, perhaps, is this quote from Jeff Drummond that he stated on HOB but did not ultimately put in the article:
I'll also share something from my last call to the Hopson house that didn't make the published story. When his mom first answered and told me Scotty wasn't home, we started talking about the McDAA Game. I told her congrats on Scotty making the game and how he had some exciting plays. The very first thing she said was "Meh (imagine what that sounds like if it were an audible pause/sigh)... He didn't get the minutes he thought he would, and nobody would pass him the ball." Take it FWIW.

Link

by piketaylor on Apr 2, 2008 8:48 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Hopson
I havent been really keen on Hopson but I do think he would have been a great help next season had he been able to handle Gillespie. I have always questioned whether he could survive in Gillespie's system and I do agree that he will be a better fit in UT's system and that's not an insult to him or UT. He will just have to get used to losing to UK ala Chris Lofton.
DEEETROIT BASKETBALLL!!!

by davw83 on Apr 2, 2008 9:24 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

HOPSON IS NOT FROM FLORIDA
Hopson's family is from Trigg County.  I believe his grandparents still live there.  Hopson's mom, and some of their cousins moved over to Christian County years ago.  Scotty is a Christian County native.

by goukcatsgo on Apr 2, 2008 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's ...
not my understanding.  I can't seem to find the article anymore, but I read somewhere his family moved up here from Florida when he was young.

by Truzenzuzex on Apr 2, 2008 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Miller......aka Kentucky Mr. Basketball
Darius Miller is being honored today for being named Kentucky's Mr. Basketball...

http://www.courier-journal.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080402/SPORTS05/80402012/1002/SPORTS

C....A....T....S CATS CATS CATS

by MartinGolf9 on Apr 2, 2008 1:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

DAMN
You beat me to the post by 3 mintues. Well, here's another link.

http://www.kentucky.com/232/story/364234.html

by blbskue on Apr 2, 2008 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

So who would you rather have,
Liggins or Hopson?  Why are we so hung up on who didn't come to UK?  I don't think we let another Lofton go away, but rather just the opposite, that UK kept the 'next' Lofton in state this time around.

by cdnWildcatfan on Apr 2, 2008 1:41 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

You mean Miller...
because I would definitely rather have Hopson over Liggins.

by funkadelic on Apr 2, 2008 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

woops
meant to say Miller or Hopson?

by cdnWildcatfan on Apr 2, 2008 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Life
OT but just reading about Marvin Stone. I was surprised to be reminded he was just 26.

by CAWebb on Apr 2, 2008 2:44 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Seems like forever ago...
It does seem like it was a long time ago that he was at UofL.  If he was 23 when he graduated from there (or just exhausted eligibility), was that really only 3-4 years ago????

by chirop1 on Apr 2, 2008 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Liggins and Miller
Hopson would have been good to get but I would take Miller or Liggins over him any day of the weak. Both are proven team first guys who will most likely be around longer than Hopson.
DEEETROIT BASKETBALLL!!!

by davw83 on Apr 2, 2008 3:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Hopson
made the best decision for him.And the UK basketball program will go on.Miller is an excellent catch and is the type of player Gillispie wants.I'm just glad that Hobson did'nt drag his recruitment out until April 16th.And he's to be complimented for that.

by UKats on Apr 2, 2008 4:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Highly biased opinion
If S. Hopson feels ut is a better fit for his "skills" than the all time winningest program in college basketball history than so be it.  UK will get along fine w/o him and the attitude that seems to be part of the package.  

I would feel much worse about the situation if coach G. had gone after him hard and he shot UK down in favor of a conference rival.  Since that is not the case, I am confident that BCG knows more about the kid and how he would fit in at Kentucky than I and felt the negatives outweighed the positives.

That being said, good luck to Hopson, here's to many 2nd and 3rd place SEC east finishes to come. :)

Now we can focus on the players we already have and those we are soon to get.

by wldcatsfreak on Apr 2, 2008 4:43 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Matt who?
Matt Jones ... who?

Based on tourney numbers, I would rather have Joe C - or Bobby P, for that matter - than Chris Lofton ... but it would have been interesting to have had all three ... plus Smooth ...

Is this Jones guy related to the Joneses in south Laurel County - you know, the ones everybody else tries to keep up with?

by Way2blue4SorryFairWeatherFew on Apr 2, 2008 4:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I absolutely, positively.....
agree with your post Tru.......nuff said.

by Chuck Alexinis on Apr 2, 2008 6:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Hopson
I agree that Hopson woud probably not be a good fit at UK. Gillispie may be too demanding to fit his tastes.

If Gillispie feigned interest in Hopson, that has to rank up there with the all-time great recruiting ruses. Very savvy move by our Coach Clyde. I think it is similar to Barnhart showing interest in Donovan, because the fan base, almost universally, demanded that he go after Billy the Kid, while all the while his true want was Gillispie.

I wish Hopson luck. He will probably slide nicely into either a starting spot, or major minutes next year with the graduation of Lofton and J. Smith.

by Ken Howlett on Apr 2, 2008 7:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Lineup
F Miller - Harris - Stewart
F Patterson - Stevenson
(C = Donut)
G Meeks - Porter - Galloway
G Jasper - Liggins

UK will be fine. Add 1 or 2 more recruits.

by FortyYearCatFan on Apr 2, 2008 7:57 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Need a big man
Assuming everyone else arrives that is scheduled to, and Meeks recovers...  Hopson is good, but we really need to save the scholarship for a big man at this point.

by EEWildcat on Apr 3, 2008 6:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Oklahoma State
What is everyone's take on the Billy G. to Oklahoma State rumors. SI's Seth Davis made it very clear during last night's broadcast that, if Ok. St. couldn't land Self, it will turn its attention to Billy G.

What are you guys hearing in Cat Land?

by tooblue on Apr 8, 2008 11:39 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Scroll ...
on up to the first post.  I have a new and revised analysis there.

by Truzenzuzex on Apr 8, 2008 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Where?
Tru--Were you responding to my question re the Billy G. to Oklahoma State rumors? If so, I can't seem to find your new and revised analysis. (Most likely user error, or technological incompetence, on my part.)

by tooblue on Apr 8, 2008 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oops
I forgot to link my response to yours!  "Try These" is my effort to help ;)

by kentuckygirl0724 on Apr 8, 2008 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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