The Lofton Debate Four Years Later
For the last 3+ years, I have had to watch a certain segment of Kentucky fans, and many TV announcers, argue that Tubby Smith and UK made a mistake by not offering Chris Lofton a scholarship. Joe Crawford, Ramel Bradley and Patrick Sparks were evidently listening, too, and it hurt them -- apparently more than we will ever know:
"It hurt a lot," Crawford said of the longing for Lofton. "I'm human. I thought I was a better player than him, and things like that. So it definitely hurt. I felt I was deserving of a scholarship."
Chris Lofton is an all-American, a great college player who happens to be playing in a system that gets the absolute most out of his incredible shooting talent. But given our needs and scholarship situation at the time, there is no doubt that Ramel Bradley and Joe Crawford were the logical choices, and virtually any coach in America in Smith's shoes would have done the same thing under identical circumstances. Lofton, to his credit, gave us all a reason to regret not recruiting him, but that happened way, way after the fact. Nobody recruits a 3-star Kentucky Mr. Basketball over a McDonald's All-American. It isn't done, and never will be. I absolutely guarantee, with all the authority such meaningless and unknowable speculation holds, that Gillispie would have done the same thing had he been the coach at Kentucky instead of Smith.
I am proud to have been firmly on the side of decisions we made back in 2004, with never a moment of angst. Joe and Ramel took a long time to reach their peak, but late is better than never, and right now I wouldn't trade either one of those young men for two Chris Loftons and a player to be named later. Ramel and Joe have lead the charge of the Wildcats as Kentucky has bounced back from a dismal pre-conference schedule to contend for an SEC championship, a feat nobody, and I mean nobody would have predicted three months ago.
Now, Crawford and Bradley have a chance to do the even more improbable -- send Lofton and his talented teammates back to second place in the East. To do that, though, they will have to do the equivalent of climbing Mount Everest without oxygen, and beat the angry Vols at home. Last time we tried to do that to an SEC team, the Cats got embarrassed by 41 points in Nashville. This time, I think they will appreciate the magnitude of what they are about to attempt, and come correctly into Thompson-Boling on Sunday.
It isn't likely, but I think that given the history of the debate about Lofton and Kentucky's two seniors, it is worth speculating how sweet it would be if they managed to defeat the Vols at home. They say that revenge is a dish best served cold, and sweeping Tennessee would be pure icy-cold sweetness over those who had wished Lofton at Kentucky and either Bradley or Crawford elsewhere. If the Cats are then able to pull off the hat trick by winning the remaining two games, it would be thunderous revenge against all this teams' detractors, and place the SEC on notice that the window of opportunity for supplanting Kentucky at the top of the league has been closed, barred, shuttered and padlocked.
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Lofton
The Tubby argument doesn't need to be rehashed in any way shape or form, but when Tubby's system worked... it was a thing of beauty; but don't kid yourself into thinking that Lofton ever could have fit in that system.
Ditto to Billy Gillispie. For a coach who stresses taking smart shots, many of Lofton's prayers do not qualify. Yes he hits many of them... but he also takes a lot of bad shots that miss.
For Chris Lofton, the opportunity to play under Bruce Pearl for three years has been a godsend. If he gets a chance to play in the League at all, it will be because he was given the chance to run and shoot with abandon and put up gaudy numbers. If he had played at Kentucky, best case scenario he would have been a role-player and the career opportunities post-college would cap out at Commisioner of Agriculture. ;-)
by chirop1 on Feb 29, 2008 9:43 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Thanks chirpo1
by sylvar on Feb 29, 2008 10:39 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
C Loft
I never felt he had a place in Tubby's system and given the choice of Bradley, Rondo, Sparks and Crawford while just watching two other Mr. B-Balls ride the pine. Not even close.
I have had my hometown heart broken too. I saw Prince Stewart from my Lafayette in Lex. distroy Sean Sutton 4 times straight and then saw him have a nice time at UTEP while we got, well, Sean Sutton. This time, we got Rondo, Bradley, Crawford and Sparks.
Glad to see the Kentucky Boy do well but still no regrets.
by wilson452 on Feb 29, 2008 11:46 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Fingers Crossed
by sylvar on Feb 29, 2008 10:42 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Food for thought
On the other hand, UT is also very good at racking up lots of fouls and not having anybody foul out. So, if the game is foul-happy and UK can keep their key players from getting in deep foul trouble, it could be a close one.
by Hooper on Feb 29, 2008 11:18 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Clarification
You do make a good point about Tenn. wanting that faster pace. I hadn't really thought about it like that.....So, the fouls are ok as long as no one fouls out! :)
by sylvar on Feb 29, 2008 12:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Gotcha.
And as far as high fouls - UT averages something over 20 a game. They fouls a lot because they gamble a lot for steals and pressure. Lotsa fouls aren't necessarily a bad thing; in UT's case, it usually means they're trying hard. I don't know how that works for UK, though.
by Hooper on Feb 29, 2008 12:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Kind of torn about Sunday
I'm not ashamed to say I've rooted for Tennessee against UK several times since Chris got there. Usually when the games were played in Rupp. I honestly haven't decided who I'm going to root for on Sunday. I got over a lot of my angst at the situation when Tubby left. It's not really about the principal of the thing anymore, I just want to see Chris go out with a win against the school that passed him over. Hard to say at this point. I'll probably be happy no matter who wins as long as Chris plays a good game.
Its much the same with the way I follow Wildcats in the NBA, Tayshaun is my favorite player, and I root for the Pistons. I followRondo, Bogans and Azubuike, and I love watching Chuck Hayes play. I will always root for the team that has the wildcat. When Chris makes it to the NBA he'll be my favorite player, and I'll root for his team. I guess it goes like I said earlier. Royals first, wildcats a very very close second.
by KYColonel on Feb 29, 2008 10:54 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Balancing loyalties
Cats win by 2... Lofton scores 30. That sort of thing.
by chirop1 on Feb 29, 2008 12:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
High School
I cant say I have ever rooted for a HS alum over my CATS. I just dot get it.
I like CL but dont think he would have had the same carreer at UK that he has had at UT and dont think he is going to make it to the NBA. He just isnt physically gifted enough to make it in the league. I think he could probably make some serious money in the Euroleagues though.
by davw83 on Feb 29, 2008 11:50 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I agree
by kentuckygirl0724 on Feb 29, 2008 12:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Lofton in the NBA
by chirop1 on Feb 29, 2008 12:05 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Big difference...
by sylvar on Feb 29, 2008 12:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
true
by UKWildCatFanatic on Feb 29, 2008 1:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Paxson
NBA points and shooting guards are typically much bigger and quicker than CL plays on a regular basis. I know the kid has heart but I just dont think he is athletically gifted enough.
by davw83 on Feb 29, 2008 1:31 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
If Loton makes it to the NBA...
by wldcatsfreak on Feb 29, 2008 7:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Apples & Oranges..
by BeatUL on Mar 4, 2008 8:29 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
PATTERSON
by CraigO on Feb 29, 2008 1:57 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Son of a ....
I was hoping you were kidding.
by chirop1 on Feb 29, 2008 2:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
WHAT
by kentuckygirl0724 on Feb 29, 2008 2:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
asdfasgdadghah
Stress fracture....
by blueninja on Feb 29, 2008 2:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I feel
by kentuckygirl0724 on Feb 29, 2008 2:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
HUGS?!!!!!!!?
sorry too many lolcats..
by blueninja on Feb 29, 2008 2:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Damn
by NYCCats on Feb 29, 2008 2:14 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Getting more depressed by the minute...
by chirop1 on Feb 29, 2008 2:15 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Me too
by kentuckygirl0724 on Feb 29, 2008 2:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Everyone wanted Joe C.
All the hindsight is "should of" "could of" "would of" bantar that is meanignless. Lofton may have come to UK and bee a total flop.
I am curious, how do the stats show Lofton vs Joe c.?
by BeatUL on Feb 29, 2008 2:15 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Acdixon's diary post-game comment about PPat
I guess we know why now...
by chirop1 on Feb 29, 2008 2:21 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Lofton
As a HS senior, he begged the UC (Cincy) staff to offer him a scholarship. They didn't. He verballed to Tennessee. Then UC offered (finally) and he nearly reneged on UT.
UK gave scholarships to 4 new guards in 2004-05. Crawford, Rondo, Bradley, and Sparks (who WALKED ON as a transfer).
Each of those 4 was higher rated than Lofton.
by FortyYearCatFan on Mar 1, 2008 7:10 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
And UK Has Won 6 Of 8 Versus UT / Lofton
by FortyYearCatFan on Mar 1, 2008 7:11 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Lofton is the enemy..
by BeatUL on Mar 4, 2008 8:31 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

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