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Ole Miss almost stuffs Kentucky's Yin up their Yang

I have come to the conclusion that the Kentucky Wildcats do not play well with a lead of any significant size [Ya think? -ed.].  Great Zot, what a freaking way to win a game.

The Cats got a good, long look at the abyss on a three point shot that would have likely won the game for the Rebels after having come back from a 19-point deficit at the half.  That shot seemed to take forever, and looked good all the way.  Fortunately, it was just a little long, and Kentucky survives the Ole Miss Rebels in a game that can be best described as a tale of two halves.

Kudos to the Rebels for an amazing comeback.  The second half, Ole Miss dominated nearly as completely as Kentucky dominated the first.  It was another heart-pounding, skinny-margin victory for Kentucky when it looked like it might wind up a laugher.  Ole Miss just pounded the Cats on the glass, and Chris Warren was virtually unguardable as he hit three 3-pointers from 25 feet or more.  Not only that, Warren was simply too quick by orders of magnitude for any of Kentucky's players, and he often blew by Wildcat defenders like a Maserati blows by a Yugo.

But at the end of the day, the Wildcats got it done.  There is no place in the won-lost column for detailed descriptions, and after the final buzzer sounded, UK came out with their 10th SEC victory against only 3 losses.  One more victory will make the Wildcats very tough to overlook for the NCAA tournament, and two more should be enough to make an invitation highly likely.  As close as it turned out to be, the Cats did just enough, as they have done so many times before. Amazingly enough, 20 victories is now within reach, and I don't think anybody would have believed it possible in early January.

Patrick Patterson was dominated for one of the very few times this season, and he played very much like a freshman.  I don't blame him, that does happen and he has played above his years all season long.  Frankly, the Cats were outplayed completely the entire second half, but dominated the first half enough to hang on.  There are lots of mistakes to criticize, but let's face it -- we should just be glad to be here given what we faced coming into the SEC season.  Sometimes, criticism doesn't make much sense, and this seems to be one of those times.  A victory by 1 point or 20 looks the same in the record books.

It's amazing how this team seems to play better when the game gets close, so I suppose that we can look forward to more close games to come.  I'm glad I have recently joined a gym and begun a workout program, because it looks like my heart will need the support if the Wildcats do make it into the post season.  You would think I would be used to it by now, but to be honest, I don't think I am.  Narrow escapes seem to be the only type of games these Cats are comfortable playing, and although it is exciting, it is more exciting than I like my basketball to be.

Next comes the Tennessee Volunteers in Knoxville.  They are likely to be as mad as killer bees over their loss at Vandy, and that is never a good thing.  But these Wildcats are very much like young trees -- they bend almost double, but refuse to break.  These Cats do not go away, and even when they get rattled, they are still able to get the job done.  Having two senior guards really helps with that.

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Nice Tru
Nice post. A win is a win, i don't care who, what, where, or why!

by Magnoliacat on Feb 27, 2008 10:47 PM EST   0 recs

If we can keep it close...
we have a shot at the vols. we do, we do.

by catlanta91 on Feb 27, 2008 11:21 PM EST   0 recs

The Cats...
can't play like this and expect to win a game in the tourney... good teams won't play as poorly as Ole Miss did in the first half.

by Independy on Feb 28, 2008 12:19 AM EST   0 recs

Rebels, Vols, and huge upsets.
Think the kid Warren would consider transferring?My goodness he can play, and only a freshman.

Surprisingly to me, Clyde wasn't too upset after the game. He wasn't happy, but he wasn't seething either.  

The effort just wasn't there after the half. But on the positive side, at least the younger players can learn something from a game like that; don't ever quit competing, or you'll get your arse beat (or in this case, nearly beat).

I really think Sunday could be unpleasant. I would much rather UT lost to Memphis, and beat Vandy. Coming off of a loss, at home...the boys in blue will be seeing orange rage with a live eye. Plus the fact that UK has already beat them. Revenge and redemption will be on Tennessee's mind.

Not that I think UK has no chance. They do, but it will take their absolute best effort of the season. And, they'll have to be 8 to 10 points better. Slowing them waaaaaaay down, is Kentucky's only chance, I feel.

A couple of years ago UK went into Knoxville heavy underdogs, and came away with a great win. The crowd was nuts, but the guys kept their cool, weathered the storm, and won it in the final minute. That win was universally unexpected within the BBN, as a win Sunday would be.

Gillispie said tonight that he is "playing for a championship". I believe him, but can he elevate the play to a level worthy of a championship?

If there is a lesson that I have learned over the last 4 months, it is to not doubt Clyde, and what Clyde is capable of.

Down goes Frazier! Down goes Frazier! Down goes Frazier!

by Ken Howlett on Feb 28, 2008 12:29 AM EST   0 recs

Rocky Top, you'll always be...
My least favorite song of all time.  I was at the Vandy/UT game last night, and it really exposed UT's weeknesses even more so maybe than the Memphis game.  First, a small disclaimer, I don't think anyone can beat Vandy in Memorial Gym this year... it just isn't going to happen.  That said, Chris Lofton is floating somewhere between saviour and liability for UT.  Sure he will hit the open 3, but he will also shoot the 25 foot non-sensical turn around jumper, much to the obvious dismay of his team... they actually played better when he wasn't on the court, they seemed to cut away at the Vandy lead more effectively, even though CL had 24ish points.  He was also hurling up bad shots against Memphis... UT actually may have become the #1 team in the US in spite of him. I have spoken (wrongly) in the past about UK's chances at Vandy, and I realize I may be jinxing the Cat's again, but I really believe that in a tight game in Knoxville, we come out victorious.  We shoot free throws very well.  They are terrible, but they can rebound fairly well, even though they are small.  We will need an Arkansas effort, not an Ole' Miss one on the boards.  UT is still turning the ball over a ton, which has also been our problem, but we are getting better.They like to run, as they are very athletic, we can't play that game.   My only fear on Sun is (and it was becoming apparent to me while I was rooting for Vandy on Tues (hey, I live in Nashville, I'm allowed a second fav)), that we are going to face a whole different beast than the one that has been surfacing the past couple games for UT.  The Cat's will need 40+ min of pure effort, and Gillespie's style of ball may never matter more than it will on Sunday... his Grit vs. UT's Speed. But if UT is forced to play a slower game and we make Lofton take his crazy shots and keep a hand in his face and we crash the boards and make free throws.... I think we stand a semi-decent shot of shocking both the Volunteer and the American Nation in TBArena Sunday!  We will have to play the best game we've played all year.

Go Cats!

 

I need a Sea of Blue because I am surrounded by Tennessee orange!

by sleepytimetea on Feb 28, 2008 12:33 AM EST   0 recs

Lofton
I thought something similar about Lofton during the Memphis/UT game. Tennessee was trying too hard to run their offense through Lofton in the second half, which led to Memphis making run to make it close. Memphis was really banging into Lofton most of the game, and I think it effected him significantly.
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by TheFakeGimelMartinez on Feb 28, 2008 3:16 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

RPI?
Has there been an update since last night's games?

by BeatUL on Feb 28, 2008 7:10 AM EST   0 recs

RPI
is 62 now, by one site.

by olddoc on Feb 28, 2008 7:14 AM EST   0 recs

62 ...
is what I have seen.

I didn't think beating Ole Miss at home would help much.

by Truzenzuzex on Feb 28, 2008 7:17 AM EST   0 recs

62 is good..
from 66 and considering beating Ole Miss at home.  I have heard UK's RPI will go up regardless of a win or loss at UT.   I read a win at UT is worth a move up 15 spots in the RPI and a loss up to 5.  Is that realistic?

by BeatUL on Feb 28, 2008 8:00 AM EST to parent up   0 recs

RPI up in a road loss
We went up 3 for a 41 point ass whuppin at Vanderbilt.  I would assume that a loss at UT could give us 5 spots; depending on what some of the other teams around us do.

One thing that I think is important to realize with any ranking system (and that includes the NCAA tourney selection) is that we don't exist in a vacuum.  Everything is relative to what other teams are doing.  For example, we could start next year unranked and go undefeated for the first 14 games... But lets say there are 15 other teams that are undefeated too; the best we could probably do in that situation is reaching number 16.  Its the same way with the RPI.  If the other teams in front of us are doing good stuff that day too, they'll stay put and so will we.

by chirop1 on Feb 28, 2008 10:00 AM EST to parent up   0 recs

RPI ...
doesn't take score into account.

by Truzenzuzex on Feb 28, 2008 10:02 AM EST to parent up   0 recs

Fortunately
UK's strength of schedule will improve with the remaining 3 games.  Big advantage over most other "bubble" teams.  I am just stunned that UK has an opportunity to win the SEC.  They could also lose all 3 games remaming but the fact they control their own destiny is just amazing.

UK wins out, not only do they win the SEC, they lock in a 8-10 seed and a top 25 ranking.

It just seems to me the national media wants UK to fail...  they do not want UK in the tourney.  To me it is obvious that is what is going on; UK has won 9 of 10, second in the SEC, already has 10 conference wins, has beaten Vandy and Tenn (two top 10 teams; well, Vandy will be next week most likely).  No way Uk should be on the bubble, they should be a concensus tourney team that would have to work their way out fo the tourney.

UK may not advance in the tournament, but I sure hope UK makes it, wins a game or two and we can tell the entire basketball nation to kiss our blue asses.

by BeatUL on Feb 28, 2008 10:19 AM EST to parent up   0 recs

Media
Oh I think you're definitely right about the national media wanting us to crash and burn. So many of them reached the conclusion (and stated so on national TV and major internet sites) that UK had NO chance of making the tournament in December and early-January, and now that we have a legit shot, they don't want to see that come back and bite them.

Making predictions like NO CHANCE three months before tournament time is faulty logic, especially when dealing with a team like UK, no matter how poorly they're playing at the time. I hope the national media hits tournament time with their big feet stuck in their mouths.

by blbskue on Feb 28, 2008 10:24 AM EST to parent up   0 recs

I disagree
This is something I have seen on other message boards saying that Kentucky is already "in."

I couldn't disagree more.  We are definitely NOT in as of today.  If we lose the last three games of the season and lose the first game we play in the SEC tournament, we're not in.  Teams that are "locks" like Tennessee could end on a four game skid like that and still get in.  We cannot.

To get into the tournament, we have to do what we said we needed to do back in January when we were 2-2.  Go 11-5 (or better) and win 2 tourney games.  Anything less is NIT bound.  Many Cat fans are saying we're in based on the assumption that we'll win at USC and home against Florida.  Not a safe assumption at this point.

We definitely belong in the "Still have work to do" column.

by chirop1 on Feb 28, 2008 10:27 AM EST to parent up   0 recs

I absolutely disagree...
as of right now UK is "in."  If the field of 65 were chosen today UK would be included.  SEC record, beating two top 10 teams and winning 9 out of last 10..   everything the selcetion committee wants and a resume few other teams have.

by BeatUL on Feb 28, 2008 4:02 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

But they don't choose today...
They choose in 3 weeks.  By that argument, Ole Miss could have said 6 weeks ago that they're definitely in.

In terms of bubble teams and locks, we don't talk about where we are today.  We talk about where we need to be when the bids go out.  In my opinion.

by chirop1 on Feb 28, 2008 4:26 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

ALl I was saying
is that as of today, UK is in...

by BeatUL on Feb 29, 2008 8:03 AM EST to parent up   0 recs

Houston
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/recap?gameId=280580248

Robert McKiver had 52 POINTS last night. Also, look at the CUSA standings - not that strong of a conference, but Houston and UAB are the clear 2 and 3 spots in the conference, respectively. They aren't exactly crap-teams, and we're still catching heat for losing to them.

by blbskue on Feb 28, 2008 10:14 AM EST   0 recs

Proof
This kind of fact is proof of the "media" need for us to fail.

All they have done is stop counting them in statements and only say G-Web, San D, and the thump at vandy.

If we were an ACC school it would be "Yes they have losses but loosing to UAB and Huston are not bad losses."

ESPN is to the ACC as Fox is to the GOP and MSNBC is to the Democratic Party. The only issue is there are not 10 other outlets to watch.

by wilson452 on Feb 28, 2008 10:45 AM EST to parent up   0 recs

Jimmy Dykes and Partner
Dykes and his partner on the late College Gamenight last night, both thought UK was in if they don't fall apart. They spent probably 2 minutes at the end of the show discussing UK.

They were spouting positives left and right about Kentucky.

ESPN's RPI" formula is a bit different than realtimerpi.com. UK was 61st late last night at realtime, but ESPN had them at 66th.

Let's hope the actual formula is closer to realtime, than ESPN.

by Ken Howlett on Feb 28, 2008 11:15 AM EST   0 recs

Something to think about...
...Saturday versus Arkansas I noticed (after Dykes pointed it out) that our Big 3 were grabbing shorts and looking fatigued.

I wonder if last nights performance in the second half was due to fatigue. These guys have played a lot of minutes, and at some point, I don't think it's out of line, to think they may hit a wall. I certainly hope this isn't the case, but it's something to keep an eye on.

by Ken Howlett on Feb 28, 2008 11:19 AM EST   0 recs

With so many days between games...
...I honestly don't think that the boys could be completely worn out. That being said, I think it was Bruce Pearl's 2005 team went on a losing skid in late February/early March, and pretty much looked worn out in late games during that period. In conclusion, I know nothing.
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by TheFakeGimelMartinez on Feb 28, 2008 3:13 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

LOL
I hope you are right.

I had forgotten about seeing the guys grabbing shorts Saturday, until well after the game last night. In trying to figure out what the hell happened in the second half, it popped into my mind, and I thought "uh oh".

Hopefully it's nothing. We'll find out soon enough.

by Ken Howlett on Feb 28, 2008 4:28 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

opinions
In or out of the dance is an interesting discussion. I saw Duke-boy Bilas on a panel recently that included Digger Phelps....and the discussion went as one would have predicted. Bilas would hear no argument that had Ky in. Phelps thought December for Kentucky could be and was being off set with better performance and results. The discussion was heated. I saw Bilas again this week before a Villinova game he was calling and he used the absolute SAME ARGUMENT he used against Kentucky FOR Villinova. Called Villinova at 7-7 conference a "bubble team who could win tonight (they did not) and be in...if they lose this one...then they could still continue to win like they have been and get support for a bid".  No wonder I hate all things Duke.  

I recognize my Bilas attitude but the mouths out there all have their agenda...often worse than we do as fans. Phelps reminded him in the first discussion that Kentucky is always Kentucky....sort of like the famous McGuire comment and can not be out of contention for the NCAA until the time is up and the numbers are all in. I think at least two more wins and into Saturday in Atlanta and we are in. Maybe less...but I do think they have an excellent chance.  

We can even dream about being in a game on Sunday in Atlanta...why not the way they are playing?  

by CAWebb on Feb 28, 2008 5:31 PM EST   0 recs

Bilas
I don't know what's up Bilas' behind this year, but I have never recognized him as having a UK bias. This year though, seems different.

I wonder if it could have anything to do with the Tubby situation?

by Ken Howlett on Feb 28, 2008 5:46 PM EST   0 recs

Bilas

I have always thought of Bilas as one of the most rational Dukies around but I just dont get whats with hiim this season. It should be apparent to everyone that Kentucky is still Kentucky and even with a sub par record should make the Dance when many other teams dont simply because the amount of money we bring to the tourney.
DEEETROIT BASKETBALLL!!!

by davw83 on Feb 28, 2008 7:13 PM EST   0 recs

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