Tipton makes a comeback
Well, well. I have been away from the computer most of the day today, which is why I haven't updated the news section and what-not. But over at his blog FireBilly.com, Fake Gimel has pointed me to the latest Jerry Tiption article on the tough-guy coaching tactics apparently employed by the UK men's basketball coach.
In my earlier missive, I took great umbrage with Tipton for a lack of balance in his article. Evidently, he took that criticism to heart (maybe not from me -- lots of others have made the same point about his earlier piece). Unlike his earlier article, this one had excellent balance throughout, and did not bury the good side amongst the bad. I think it paints a picture of a coach who lacks a certain amount of "people skills," as Dusty Mills said in a quote in the article, but also of a man who understands that to excel at anything, you have to be willing to be taken out of your comfort zone. That is what it takes to really go to the next level of anything, and Gillispie seems to have a complete grasp of that fact. Most people don't like to be forced out of their comfort zone -- that's why they call it a "comfort zone" -- and Gillispie is going to do it, whether you want him to or not.
Gillispie's curt style is not for the faint of heart, and it may rub many the wrong way. I am not backing down on my earlier remarks about how he handled the Mills situation, but Tipton does a very good job in this article giving us a look at the gruff, no-nonsense coach from a perspective that is not nearly as inimical as his earlier report. In Tipton's latest, we see Gillispie not only through the eyes of the disgruntled Mills, but also through the eyes of young men who would crawl over broken glass to play for him. That brings us around to the other side of the argument that was missing from Tipton's first effort, and the picture now doesn't look nearly as dire and unforgiving as before, when we only saw the ugly parts.
This is a classic example of how a good writer will create balance without minimizing honest criticism:
In my humble opinion, and I am by no means an expert, this is one of the better pieces I can ever remember Jerry Tipton writing. He took the time to detail all sides of the issue and the editors gave him the freedom to explore it to the depth necessary to get it right. For my money, this is a nice piece of sports journalism, and I am very glad Tipton wrote it. My opinion of him, which had nose-dived after his last article is now back were it was. Redemption can come in many forms, and nothing is sweeter than redeeming oneself after a mistake. Tipton probably doesn't think of it in those terms, but I do.
So kudos, Jerry Tipton. You done good in this one. It is an honest, no-holds barred look at the coach with the balance such an essay requires. It's good journalism, and in my book, praiseworthy. More, please.
Update [2008-2-22 17:31:33 by TheFakeGimelMartinez]: Fixed the broken link to my article.
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Poor memory...
The consensus here (I've been reading a while) seems to be the opposite, and it puzzles me.
by CW on Feb 22, 2008 5:33 PM EST 0 recs
Tipton ...
Clay, to me, just seems to stick to the facts. But I don't love or hate either of them.
by Truzenzuzex on
Feb 22, 2008 5:46 PM EST
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Although
by TheFakeGimelMartinez on
Feb 22, 2008 5:47 PM EST
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Hahaha
by TheFakeGimelMartinez on
Feb 22, 2008 5:54 PM EST
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Well ...
by Truzenzuzex on
Feb 22, 2008 6:08 PM EST
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Actually...
http://aseaofblue.com/story/2008/2/17/9011/77212
Tru can opt out if he wishes...
The Online home of Big Blue Nation ...
by JL Blue on
Feb 22, 2008 9:09 PM EST
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Very well then
by TheFakeGimelMartinez on
Feb 22, 2008 9:54 PM EST
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if tipton
by UKWildCatFanatic on
Feb 22, 2008 11:59 PM EST
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Those Of Us Old Enough To Remember...
Tipton doesn't do that very often. I think he does what he is told to do by the Fish-Wrap editors.
by FortyYearCatFan on
Feb 23, 2008 10:28 AM EST
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Tipton, Mills, and Clyde
To me, the most telling aspect of this mess are the words of Mills' high school coach. He didn't so much throw Mills under the bus, as he nudged him in front of it. Stating that Mills can be a bit disorderly, in the face of his dismissal, says a lot about the kids personality and his penchant for horseplay. His former coach made no attempt to take up for Mills, in any way. That is highly unusual.
Gillispies handling of the situation did not bother me in the least. Some coaches would have made Mills take a bus back to campus, instead of letting him fly with the rest of the team.
Did he curse him? Don't know , don't care. Did he give him a chance to explain? Don't know, don't care.
Would I have handled the situation in the same way? Probably not. I would have let the kid down easy, but maybe Clyde has put up with more than we know from Ollie, and his frustration got the best of him.
I get a sneaking feeling this is not the first time Mills has pissed off Gillispie, though. I get the sense that this was the proverbial straw that broke the camels back. Even if that isn't true, Gillispie has stated publicly that walk-ons are on a day-to-day "contract". If coach feels Mills laughing on the bench while one of his comrades lays on the floor in obvious pain constitutes a "fireable" offense, then so be it.
Tipton reporting this in the manner that he did, didn't really bother me either. He gave Gillispie an opportunity to expound upon the situation, but Clyde decided he didn't have much to say. As a reporter, Tipton couldn't allow Gillispies relative silence to preclude him from writing the story.
Most of us have seen the movie "All the Presidents Men". Just because the reporters in the movie get "no comments" or denials from the people involved, doesn't mean they don't print their story. Tipton had enough for a column, so he ran with it.
Negative or not, Tipton is not paid to cheerlead UK. His job is to report, and give the occassional opinion. If one doesn't like his style or content, don't read him.
All in all this is a very minor blip on the screen, in my eyes. Gillispies a hard-ass...tell me something I don't know. As long as he lives within the rules of society, and doesn't embarrass the University, I'll leave it up to him on how to best mete out punishment to his team.
Now, lets beat the hell out of the Razorbacks.
by Ken Howlett on Feb 22, 2008 6:48 PM EST 0 recs
Not just Gilliespie
In fact, people actively seek it out. Look at everest climbers, who voluntarily seek a life-threatening test of their willpower and toughness, just to see if they can do it. Inevitably, they come out transformed.
Also, on the athletic front, consider Gym Jones, where the cast of the movie 300 trained. Similar tactics are employed there: no coddling, and pushing people to their very limit. You just don't get that buff with 30 minutes per day on your Chuck Norris total gym.
A more extreme example is the gyoja, or spiritual athlete of Japan. They're Buddhists who undertake a ritual that is essentially running 1 marathon per day - for 100 days. And there's no bailing out either, the gyoja travels with a rope and a knife, by which they are expected to commit ritual suicide by hanging or by blade if they don't succeed at their run.
If they succeed at the 100 day run, there is even a more extreme 1000-day run that involves a 7 day period of food, water, and sleep deprivation, after which they resume with 2 marathons per day.
Pretty extreme? But you can't really expect to achieve enlightenment sitting in your computer chair posting blog comments, after all! 8')
Here's an interesting article about it:
http://www.lehigh.edu/~dmd1/holly.html
So maybe a little cursing with the intent of improving toughness, character, body and spirit isn't that extreme, or more than the players can handle. You don't get to be Acie Law by being coddled either, apparently.
by EEWildcat on Feb 22, 2008 9:05 PM EST 0 recs
A good writer.............
by Chuck Alexinis on Feb 22, 2008 9:35 PM EST 0 recs
Personally
The allusion to All the President's Men is unavailing to this situation. In that instance, Woodward and Bernstein had reliable sources. Those sources were unnamed at first, but the writers at least informed the readers that there were unnamed sources for their allegations.
by senowen on Feb 23, 2008 12:52 AM EST 0 recs
Sources
My point is that because Gillispie declined to speak about the matter doesn't mean Tipton shouldn't have written the original story.
by Ken Howlett on
Feb 23, 2008 1:08 AM EST
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I don't want to enter a subject
I agree with you that Gillespie cannot and should not be able to avoid the spotlight simply by keeping his mouth shut. However, Gillespie's silence does not obviate a professional duty to corroborate the claims of an embarassed teenager.
by senowen on
Feb 23, 2008 12:11 PM EST
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Point well taken....
by Ken Howlett on
Feb 23, 2008 1:14 PM EST
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Personally ...
It is incorrect to suggest that I want Tipton to be a cheerleader for Kentucky, or that I begrudge him the right to print stories that make UK or coach Gillispie look bad. That is not the case at all.
What is the case is this: If you have a story where your only two sources are the principles, and one declines to talk, the article should generally be held until you can get the other side of the story, either by developing other sources (there were some, apparently the berating of Mills took place in front of other people, as Tipton alludes to in his article) or until you have exhausted all reasonable effort to do so. Whenever you have a "he said, she said," you should never only report the "he said" unless there is no chance to get the other side. I don't think that was the case here, and I don't think Tipton put in enough effort to get the other side despite what John Clay told me.
Also, when we deal with complex human relationships, stories should not be written in vacuum. If you cannot give readers a basis for comparison, or some context for a story, isolated facts become magnified to the extent that they become prejudicial, similar to the legal context. In many trials, factual evidence is often excluded because it would be prejudicial to one party or the other's right to a fair trial, regardless of its validity. Thats what happens in newspaper articles where you have no attempt to balance the story, especially when it is about an event where there are clearly two sides that are likely to be very different.
Finally, to say that "[Mills] inherently lacks reliability" may be correct, but I think we should point out that there is no reason to believe he is dissembling. Offended parties often magnify the negative and minimize the exculpatory. That's certainly not lying, but it presents only a partial picture, and that picture is always tilted dramatically in favor of the person making the allegations. That is the nature of an accuser, and another reason why a story written only from the perspective of the accuser is not a good idea, regardless of what facts he presents.
by Truzenzuzex on
Feb 23, 2008 6:55 AM EST
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Basic Agreement
You are right that we have no reason to believe that Mills was lying. But because of his position in the events in question, age, and demonstrated lack of maturity, we also have no reason to accept his version of events as the truth. That makes him an unreliable source for the story, unless corroborated.
Oh, and the cheerleader comment wasn't really aimed at you. I was thinking of those nasty comments on Tipton's story at KY.com. Reminds me once again why I try to avoid other UK related websites.
by senowen on
Feb 23, 2008 12:34 PM EST
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We perceive the story differently
Anyone with insight into young people would see Mills for what he is; an immature young man, trying to get back at the person who dissed him.
Once again, the words of his high school coach are very damning to Mills' cause and claims. In my eyes, the coach provides the balance that everyone is so concerned about. Couple Mills' words with his former coaches, and a very unflattering picture of Mills is painted.
Evidently, most did not take away what I did from Tipton's original effort. Whether it be because of the allegation that Clyde cursed the young man, or because he didn't give Mills the oportunity to explain his actions...whatever the reason, I find nothing egregious about Gillispies words or actions.
TRU: I know you wrote some negative comments regarding Tipton, but my comment above wasn't referencing you. Rather, I have read several comments questioning the veracity of Tiptons work and many people seemed to question Tiptons general motivation for his story writing.
Fans in general are much too sensitive about what sportswriters write, if it's not a glowing review of events, then the writer must have it out for UK. That's a pretty fair summation of how many fans think. Those are the ones I encouraged not to read Mr. Tipton and his ilk.
"Much ado about nothing" sums up my feelings pretty succintly about this particular situation. I do realize I am in the minority, though.
by Ken Howlett on
Feb 23, 2008 1:02 PM EST
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Parting Shot
Clyde liked his fire and grit, and did what most coaches wouldn't have; give him an opportunity to suit up for UK, something many players would give their left arm to do.
Mills screws up the opportunity and blames the coach. Grow up. It's like blaming a cop for giving you a speeding ticket.
He should be apologizing for being a distraction, not bad-mouthing the man who went above and beyond to allow him such a cherished opportunity.
He's upset about being yelled at, well isn't that too bad.
Typical entitlement attitude. The only thing he is entitled to is the opportunity to remove Clydes shoe from his ass on the way out the door.
My advice: transfer to Illinois.
by Ken Howlett on Feb 23, 2008 1:20 AM EST 0 recs













