Big Blue Blast from the Past: Kittens '65-'66 -- a series of remembrances
From the Editor: This is the first in a series of short essays from A Sea of Blue member oldcat'69, who played as a walk-on on Kentucky's freshman team in 1965-66 during the Adolph Rupp era.
This first part is autobiographical in nature, and future parts will relate the author's experiences as part of that team, and provide insights into many aspects of the Golden Age of Kentucky basketball and the legendary coaching staff. I hope you enjoy oldcat'69's recollections.
About the Author:
I’m a farm boy who got a one-year ringside seat in the college basketball "holy of holies." My high school coach Harold Ross was, by his own admission, the thirteenth man on the first twelve on the UK NCAA champions of 1958. He was hired to be our coach immediately after graduation from UK and was my coach and family friend until I graduated UK and went into the Air Force.
As a high school player, I was an excellent shooter and good ball-handler who was way too timid in putting up shots. I also had, and may still have, the single-game and season assist record for my high school. But, like a lot of 6’1" guards around in my day, I had a fatal flaw—"white man’s disease," although we didn’t have a name for it at the time. Actually, like the beginnings of AIDS (which is not a joking matter), I may have been the origin of the disease, although others had had the symptoms in earlier years, I had a full-blown case. The good news in high school was that most of the guys I played against also were poor athletes, so we all deluded ourselves into believing that we could play just ‘cause we could shoot the eyes out of the basket. (Still can, by the way, but the new three-point line is stretching an old man’s range a bit.)
Beginnings
When I enrolled in UK, Coach Ross suggested I go over to Memorial Coliseum a few days before October 15 and ask how to go about trying out for the freshman team (All you young folks remember, freshmen could not play on the varsity then!) as a walk-on. He knew, as I did not then, that Coach Rupp typically recruited freshman scholarship players fairly heavily every other year, and ’65-66 was, thankfully for me, a light year.
So, I did. I was told to report back on October 15 at 4:00 in the afternoon with a pair of basketball shoes. I’m not sure how many other walk-ons there were, but I think the number was around 15 to go with the five scholarship players (Bobby Hiles, Phil Argento, Gerry Guter, Alvin Ratliff, and, for the life of me, I can’t remember the other guy’s name, although I can see his face in my memory. Maybe FortyYearCatFan can help.).
Anyway, we shot around for 25 minutes or so and freshman coach Harry Lancaster and his first-year assistant Joe B. Hall came out onto the floor after watching us and gathered us around the free throw circle. They proceeded to ask our names and where we went to high school. The process went smoothly until I told them my name and that I went to Todd County Central. At that point, Coach Lancaster stopped and said, "That’s one of our boys, Harold Ross, coaching that team. You should know all our plays." Not being sure if that made me a marked man or not, I replied, "Yes, Sir, I do." As it turned out, that single fact was a great advantage to me as we began practice.
Once the team was pared down to 12 or 13 players, we began learning to run the traditional 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, and 10 plays Rupp had used for years. Basically, it was a "second guard" offense (that was who was designed to get the first shot opportunity) that involved a lot of motion and a lot of picks, both stationary and moving. (Note: I suppose that having a background with basic pick and roll basketball is what frustrates me about today’s game when many players don’t even know which way to roll when they do manage to set a (usually ineffective) pick. And don’t get me started about a guy who dribbles the other way when one of his teammates sets a pick for him. Sheesh!!!!!)
At any rate, having a seven-year, since fifth grade, knowledge of those plays made me look fairly good among the other walk-ons, so I ended up being the sixth man in the first few games on the freshman schedule. Hiles and Argento were the guards, and, while I didn’t get a lot of "PT, BABY," I did get to play in each of our pre-holiday games, scoring a few points. As an aside, the only real instruction that Coach Lancaster ever gave me as he put me in was, " . . .if you get a shot, take it." This would become important to me in a later game.
We really didn’t have a very good team; perhaps it was the worst freshman team in Rupp’s history. It certainly was the worst freshman record, at 5-10, but even with the scholarship players, we really weren’t that hot. Argento was pretty good, but, except for Ratliff, the rest of the scholarship players weren’t UK caliber for one reason or another.
At the end of the first semester, at the Christmas break, three of the scholarship players failed to make grades, so we were left with Hiles and Argento and a bunch of us slugs for the second semester. Unfortunately for me, both those guys were guards, so I was still the sixth man, doggone it!!!
Because of the shallow talent pool and because they really weren’t much interested in developing anyone but Phil Argento for the varsity, a few of our second semester road trips were cancelled and we ended up playing only 15 games. I’ll discuss some of them later.
If it sounds like I was a little awed by the whole process, I was. I had figured out that I had to run just to stand still in this world of college basketball the first time I was paired one-on-one with Alvin Ratliff at practice. Alvin, you see, was possibly the second-best player in the state the previous year, after Butch Beard. I really hadn’t had a heck of a lot of trouble with my high school teammates one-on-one, but Alvin ate my lunch. So, I kinda figured out that I wasn’t going to be the magic walk-on that was asked to play on the varsity.
I also realized that I was privileged to be witnessing something pretty special when the Runts climbed the rankings to No. 1 and stayed there. I’ll write about each of them later, but suffice to say they were the definition of team chemistry. And, unlike our current crop, they could handle the ball. Ten turnovers in a game would have sent Coach Rupp into apoplexy.
I was fortunate not to have a class from 2:00-4:00 PM either semester. That’s when the varsity practiced, and freshmen players were allowed to watch varsity practice, so that’s what I did. I watched and listened to the greatest coach in the game, up to that point, as he taught, cajoled, prodded, cussed, embarrassed, and, yes, led, his team to the national championship game. I was a bit player, but I walked several steps behind him for a very few days on his "Glory Road."
I was completely in awe of where I was, even as I got familiar with my situation and the whole process of being there. A little ol’ farm boy who used to listen to Claude Sullivan and then Cawood describe Hatton, Crigler, Nash, Baesler, and a lot of the other heroes on the radio was now on the floor where they played. It was almost breathtaking.
You younger folks will never know how it felt to turn on the AM radio and hear "Hello, everybody. This is Cawood Ledford, and KENTUCKY BASKETBALL is on the air," but to us, it was the greatest thing in the world.
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As one of the "younger folks"
I appreciate you taking the time to share a little of your experiences. I look forward to more of your pieces about Rupp and the Runts.
Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."
Good stuff...
I too look forward to riding down memory lane with your stories.
" I believe in pipedreams"
Thanks for the memories
Growing up in the Bluegrass was a joy. Thanks for taking back to my childhood – I am anxiously waiting for more…
JandPsDad Bleedin' BLUE in NW Indiana
Thank you
for taking the time to share your experiences with us. I`m looking forward to more.
I think we have at least 2 ex-cats that are members here at ASoB. Maybe Tru knows of more.
Lol Tink...
I can just imagine your brain working overtime on that one! Maybe they will let us know in time just like oldcat"69 did.
One was a track athlete ...
… ukfastkat, and the other is oldcat’69. That’s the two I know of.
A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan
I think
I remember Chuck Aleksinas posting here last season
by String Music on Dec 9, 2008 10:20 AM EST up reply actions
This is amazing!
I’m not near old enough to have been a part of anything like this but I was raised bluer than the ocean and when I thought of sitting by the radio in Kentucky and hearing Cawood say that.. it just sent chills all over. Can’t wait for the rest!
This is just awesome!
I am tickled “blue” that you finally joined ASoB and offered to give us these many great memories of your time with the Kittens. I too anxiously await more of these stories from the past.
Good read!
This brought back so many memories. I got to UK a couple of years after you in the 1967-68 season. Although I played basketball in high school, I knew that I was not even walk on material; so I became manager instead. You used the word ‘awe’ and that is exactly my reaction.
I recall working one afternoon at the far end of Memorial when someone tapped me on the shoulder and introduced himself as Caywood Ledford. Other times managers had to referee the varsity scrimmages. It was difficult to even blow the whistle because I was completely overwhelmed that I was on the same floor with these guys. My finest hour was the day they were short during a freshman workout and I got to scrimmage with them. My crowning achievements that day were (1) have my jump shot blocked by Larry Steele (I swear it seemed 8’ out of my hand when he got it) and (2) fouling Greg Starrick hard as he went for a layup. The latter earned me a stern rebuke from coach Hall not to maim the scholarship players.
"Don't maim the scholarship players"
LOL
Good to have you around here too zbbg. I’m sure I’m not alone in wanting to hear more stories from the Rupp practices if you have any to share.
Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."
Do U Remember "Buck" Jones?
He was a walk-on starter on 1967-68 Kittens. The 4 scholarship players were 6-10 Steve Schmitt of New Castle IN (never played varsity at UK), 6-6 Larry Steele of Bainbridge IN, 6-2 Greg Starrick of Marion IL, and 6-2 Bob McCowan of Dayton OH.
A college from from New Castle knew Schmitt well. I met Steele in Portland about 10 years ago. Starrick was a great shooter but transferred as a soph because he didn’t start. McCowan is now a fishing charter boat captain in Honolulu.
Buck Jones was from suburban Chicago not far from where I live now.
by FortyYearCatFan on Dec 8, 2008 3:30 PM EST up reply actions
So oldcat69 and zbbg...
Did either of you know “Mr. Wildcat” the equipment manager for so many years?
Nice!
I’ll echo chirop; as a ‘young one’ myself I really appreciate being able to read these first hand accounts of UK history. I’m looking forward to the future entries in this series!
"That's not a Sherman tank, it's Frank Thomas!" - Monkeyball
I Don't Remember His Name But I Think He Was From Mayfield KY
Not sure.
Joe Hall took over for Neil Reed as chief recruiter in 1965 and recruited 12 players in the 1966 class. UK recruiting changed dramatically (for the better) under Joe Hall’s lead.
I saw the Kittens play annually from 1967 through 1972. I miss those games. My favorite memory is seeing Dan Issel tip in a missed FTA with his left hand FROM THE FOUL LINE.
Buck Jones
Sure I remember Buck Jones. Real straight guy. When he would screw up in practice, his favorite phrase was ’Mother Chuck It." The other guys on the team would get all over him, telling him, he might as well say what he meant. Old Buck never would though.
One Bobby McCowan story. On game day afternoon the team would get together to eat.
Usually filets and I remember lots of honey, but the managers had to serve the players at the buffet table and this was my first time. After I finished, everyone was seated and the only places left were a table with three players including McCowan and one with Lancaster, Hall and the trainer. I sure didn’t think I was worthy to sit with the coaches; so I chose the former. As I went to sit down, the trainer (I won’t mention his name, but he was a real jerk. A great economics teacher, but just unbearable as a trainer) turned to me and said “Where is your silverware, manager?” I looked in horror as there was none at my table, but an extra set right beside the trainer. As I started to turn red and before I could utter a word, Bob reached over to the coaches’ table, grabbed the silverware, and said “Here they are.” He gave them to me. I sat down to eat and the trainer never said another word. I don’t know if Bob reads these forums out in Hawaii, but on that day, he made a friend for life.
Great stuff.
Welcome to A Sea of Blue. It’s always great to remember how we got to be the greatest basketball program of all time.
Thanks for commenting, and I hope you can find time for more.
A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan
Eating
You had better get to the training table before Steve Schmitt. Rupp called him his biggest eater ever.
Jones was from Forest View HS here in Palatine IL.
by FortyYearCatFan on Dec 8, 2008 5:02 PM EST up reply actions
Ken
Welcome back and I hope you are feeling much better after being down with the funk. We have missed you!
With Chirop and JLeverenz
It’s truly a blessing to have the opportunity to hear these bits of UK history. Thank you very much for doing this Oldcat69 and ASOB.
Hey, zbbg (btw, that's REALLY hard to pronounce),
great to have you on board. Keep me straight if I “remember” something that wasn’t right, particularly about how practices went. I really like your “don’t maim the scholarship players.” I’ve been told something similar myself. There was definitely a dividing line between those they didn’t have an investment in and the ones who were “getting a $10,000 (1965, remember) education for free.”
Didn’t know the rest of the guys in the ‘67-’68 freshman class, but Larry Steele was a great guy. I sat next to him, alphabetically, in a class his freshman year. Had a lot of fun. The fact that there were only four scholarship players illustrates the typical pattern Rupp used. Five in my year, 12 the next year, then four in ‘67-’68. Interesting.
Glad you guys enjoyed reading about the old days. Will have more as my fingers heal.
The honey
zbbg’s remembrance about the honey was spot on. The pre-game lunch for a night game was a small steak, a small, and very dry, baked potato, a small salad, some toast, a single scoop of vanilla ice cream, and a little restaurant container of honey. Most of us put the honey on the ice cream. Still do it today on occasion, and it takes me back to the little room off the main cafeteria in the Student Center every time I do it.
Forty,
I think I remember seeing that tip-in. Dan could sure do it, not to be able to get both feet off the ground at the same time, couldn’t he? My favorite memory of him is once when I went from the Kirwan tower through the Pike house (I was a Pike as was Dan) early on a Friday evening heading out to party somewhere. Dan was sitting there playing poker at the usual Friday night poker game. When I came back through around midnight, he was still playing poker, but there was a stack of beer cans beside him on the floor and the ashtray on the table beside him was overflowing with ashes and butts. Yes, dear hearts, ol’ Dan drank and smoked a little, I reckon. Well, we had a game with Vandy the next day and he got his usual 20-25 points. His face was a little red, but he got ’er done, just like Larry the cable guy.
The One I Saw
It was in UC’s Armory Fieldhouse in Cincy. The Kittens beat the UC frosh that day.
I met Issel 15 years later at the first Arlington Million (horse race) and he still remembered it.
by FortyYearCatFan on Dec 8, 2008 9:15 PM EST up reply actions
Old Cat brings back the past11
Old Cat brings back the past11
by Smitty69 on Dec 8, 2008 7:28 PM CST
Old Cat 69. We must be about the same age! I also listened to Claude Sullivan and later Cawood on the radio sitting at the kitchen table with my Dad. Sometimes we had to get in the car to pickup the games and other times we had to drive around to find just the right place. My mind fails me now for the year but UK’s freshman team that was undefeated came to Paducah to play the Paducah Junior College team. I got in and it was a great game. I believe this team became “Rupp’s Runts” Good to read tour stories keep it up! JES!!
Joe Edd Smith
The 1962-63 Frosh
Conley, Kron, Gibson (et al) lost 1 game to the undefeated UC frosh that year.
The 1963-64 (Riley, Dampier, Wayne Chapman) were very good but not undefeated.
The 1964-65 frosh may well have been unbeaten. They were powerful.
Great Post!
Love to hear this stuff. It’s old, but so new to us “youngsters” (who may be 30-somethings – 8’)
Another 1965-66 freshman walk-on
Bill, hey.
I was privileged to become included in the second crop of walk-ons that year (1965-66), after the three scholarship players became ineligible. You might remember me, Lee Stone, from Central City, Kentucky. At 6’2" and never a guard in high school, I actually got some playing time at forward.
Did you go on the bus road-trip to Knoxville, as I did? That was, of course, the only regular-season game U.K. lost that year. I remember the U.T. arena seemed to me to be strangely underlighted. Perhaps that prefigured the quiet and mournful trip back to Lexington.
I used to take a long time showering after practice, so I met Coach Rupp twice as he was waiting for his driver to pick him up at the side door of Memorial Coliseum. Coach Rupp apparently, as I saw once, got physical therapy from someone, possibly one of the trainers, so he stayed late, at least some evenings. He was quite friendly and talkative (in his high-pitched voice) and I was incredulous that he bothered to speak to me at all. He appeared to me as a giant falcon, with his aquiline, beak of a nose, soaring above the rest of us, but always capable of descending to a quick swoop on the flesh of mere mortals. Luckily, he was well fed (and friendly!) when I met him.
I’ll post something later about one of the varsity practices I remember.
leedurhamstone
Welcome to ASoB. I would love to hear some of your stories also.
Your description of Rupp is classic! Please share.
Lee,
darned right I remember you!! You were the one exception to the “white guys can’t jump” rule on that team. We badly needed some athleticism and you brought it. Unfortunately for me, that made you the sixth man and pushed me out of that spot. Great to hear from you.
I do remember the road trip to Knoxville. Dreary place, especially during the game, with Howard Bayne (sp?) beating up on our guys inside. As I remember, Ray Mears figured out how Coach Rupp beat him in Lexington and made some adjustments to the baseline coverage in his 1-3-1 and UK wasn’t quick enough to reach to it.
Please do post something about the varsity practices. These folks love it, and I’ll eat it up.
Sorry I"m late responding in this string—didn’t get back to it for a few days. Again, really great to hear from you.
Bill
kycat51 and Bill,
Thanks to you both.
Tonight I posted a comment on the “Coaches: Adolph Rupp” thread.
I know that a couple Runt team members had the flu at the NCAA Championship Game, but, Bill, do you recall that one of them had the flu at the Tennessee game, too? Am I correct about the two games?
by leedurhamstone on Dec 19, 2008 12:10 AM EST up reply actions

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