When you're talking in your sleep
I hear the secrets that you keep
When you're talking in your sleep -- The Romantics
1980's music always brings me a sense of peace, of youth. Of the times when the weight of the world was on someone else's shoulders. I do wonder what I was saying last night when I was talking in my sleep, no doubt about the game we lost against Miami.
I am still very unhappy about what I saw last night against the Miami Hurricanes, and unfortunately, morning has brought me neither a desire to backtrack from my earlier comments, nor a sense of serenity about this Kentucky basketball team. It's possible that some may have misunderstood my criticism of Coach Gillispie as a desire to see him replaced. That isn't the case at all. Nothing he could do on the basketball court at this point in his UK career would make me want that. Every coach needs time to develop, just as young players do. Kentucky is a very tough job, and that is clearly illustrated by my lack of patience for the hot-and-cold nature this team has displayed so far this season.
I know that Gillispie understands that harsh fan criticism comes with the territory, and I am certain he can handle it. But don't mistake that criticism for a lack of faith in his ability, or that of this team -- this team is way better than they showed last night, which is a big part of my earlier angry tirade. If some of you are surprised by the tone of my post-game comments, be advised that I try to be level-headed and sober in my judgments, but when the provocation is sufficiently great (as it was last night, to me at least), I have to call 'em as I see 'em, right or wrong.
John Clay has a column today about Jodie Meeks play last night, a sort of "what went wrong" review and some discussion of Meeks' and Patterson's role on the team. Kentucky has seen relatively little zone this year, but that can't be an excuse -- a zone allows you to take perimeter shots more easily, but it is also harder to execute properly and should provide tons of offensive rebounding, and it did -- UK had nine (!) offensive rebounds in each half, and yet could not make those extra shots at the basket count. In other statistical news, UK shot TWO free throws in the first half. Two. Why? We weren't getting the ball inside and weren't attacking the rim, we were settling for challenged three point shots.
After this game, I can assure you we will be seeing a lot of zone, even by teams that eschew the zone (except maybe for fanatical man-to-man adherents like Huggins). Think the Louisville Cardinals might have a zone in mind for UK? Oh, yeah. So if we learn nothing else from this game, we need to learn how to attack a zone where the team we are playing is of equal or greater skill.
There are a lot of things we can learn from last night's debacle, not the least of which is that players will have cold days from the perimeter. When that happens, you have to find a way to get the ball into the painted area either by the pass or by the dribble and get shots closer to the basket. You can't decline open foul-line and 15 foot short corner jumpers like Miller and Stevenson did last night. Thank God Josh Harrellson knew those were good shots.
I had hoped this team turned a corner in Vegas. It has not. The good news is, there is still most of the season left to go.
Oh, and one other meme I am sick and tired of reading, though fortunately not here -- this is not a rebuilding year! This team is perfectly capable, and to call it a rebuilding year is just plain excuse-making.
[UPDATE] Eric Crawford of the C-J makes some great points in an article this morning. Nothing but validation, frankly.
[UPDATE] Lest we think this is all on Gillispie, he apparently had the game plan right, but his charges failed to execute it [via Tom Leach].
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My Friend On K-St Coaching Staff
You were there to see it so I don’t know but their GAME PLAN was to make UK dribble penetrate their defense and to harrass the ball handling guard. Film showed those two weak spots.
They tried that...
… and it worked as the turnovers indicate. I can’t remember how many turnovers were forced vs. unforced, but my recollection is that most of them were forced by the K-State defense.
The problem was that K-State just didn’t have enough offense and Meeks was unstoppable. K-State had 19 offensive rebounds vs. UK’s 3 and it wasn’t enough.
A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan
Yeah, I was pretty upset last night too
I avoided the post mortem last night for that reason. I’m sure I can guess pretty much everything that was said.
I can’t understand why it literally takes this team half the game to re-learn to get the ball to Patterson every single time out.
That said, the first half defense was the biggest killer in this game. If UK plays defense in the first half like they did in the second they would have won by 15 even with all the problems on offense.
"That's not a Sherman tank, it's Frank Thomas!" - Monkeyball
That's true ...
… to an extent. It was really a combination of poor defense, particularly by Darius Miller, and a complete lack of offensive execution.
A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan
it doesn't take the "team" that long...
…It takes “Billy” that long…
hell, the players turn it on when the right guys are on the floor…
Steelers fan 1st! UK is my 2nd love.
Dead on!
I just shot this in on the Post Mort….
After the accident, there was plenty of time when we saw combinations of Ligs, Galwy, Pat, Josh and Meeks and we looked SICK CRAZY. Fluid, cohesive and almost cocky with a hard hat.
Some therapy sessions for P-Steve to find they guy from last year, Some Stewart Smally tapes for Miller to get some confidence and bring back a healthy Iron Dome Harris and we should be jacking some folks.
Read between the lines of comments from Pat, meeks and others. They all talk about Ligs, Kevin and Miller in terms that illustrate them as who THEY see as “the team” being the guys who will win games “20 Strong” aside.
Changing how you think will change what you think.
Take off the blinders...
Tru, I admire your passion for Kentucky basketball, and your heart-felt belief that this team has a chance to be something special, I also enjoy Forty’s historical perspective. However, I think your passion for all things Kentucky Blue blinds you to the fact that this team—like last year’s team—is just not an elite, first-tier team. The proof, as they say, is in the pudding—19 losses in the past 22 games against top 20 teams. 0-2 this year against top 20 teams. This doesn’t mean that, when all the stars align properly, this year’s team isn’t capable of pulling off an upset or two. However, over the course of this season, I believe we will, for the most part, beat the teams we are supposed to beat, and lose to the teams that are favored against us. Out of respect for you, I won’t call it a rebuilding year. However, having passed on the blue kool-aid this year, I also will not expect much more than a mediocre season (by UK standards) and an early tourney exit from this year’s edition.
I hope I am wrong, and that you are rewarded for your optimism. I really do… .
This team ...
… starts one five-star, two four stars one three and a two. The two should be the five star we have on the bench. Plus, we have one four-star in relief and several three stars.
While that certainly isn’t an elite-level team like North Carolina or Louisville, it is unquestionably enough talent to beat a team like Miami, who has less talent overall by a significant margin — they don’t have a single five star on the entire team, and have several players who were completely unrated by any recruiting service.
This may not be a year that UK contends for the championship, but it is by no means a “rebuilding” year. Call it a transition year, and that’s certainly appropriate, but rebuilding with this much talent? No way.
A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan
Stars
Stars measure how they play against high school competition, right? Call me crazy, but all those stars on our chests didn’t help much last night (or against those mighty, star-less Keydets), did it?
In the spirit of compromise, I’ll settle for “transition” over “rebuilding.” Fair enough?
Look ...
… as a general measure, the star rating gives you an idea of the talent of a player, and they have been proven to be an indicator of performance over a broad base of teams and players. Granted, they are not whatsoever infallible, but my point was that this team simply has too much talent, too deep into the bench, to be called “rebuilding.”
And yes, your compromise is fair. :-)
A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan
Agreed
I really get turned off when I read how people use the number of stars as an indication of how a given player or team should preform. That is like using CPI measure as an overall economic indicator… Its the logical equivalent of using a sledge hammer.
It is barely an adequate evaluation of talent, let alone all the other factors that play in to how a given individual or team will preform… including experience, other available options, and coaching and tempo and a hundred other variables. The entire 04 class underperformed at UK according to their lofty #1 ranked class status. Morris, while very good, was never a dominant force. Bradley and Crawford were not world beaters, but grew into their roles as solid contributors.
Having said that, I do think we have talent on this team… you can see it. And the current influx of talent is very promising. But they are young, and they are making mistakes and they will get through it. It just will take time.
I mentioned.....
in another thread that I was nervous about this game. Everyone took a win over an bad Lamar team as a sign that UK was Final Fourt bound….(kidding). I was assured by Mr Know-It-All that a win was gauranteed. So I was etremely surprised to see this team down by 20 at halftime. Anyway, as long as BCG plays his little games and starts the wrong players I will be a skeptic. Last season it was as obvious as the nose on his face that Crawford was our best player but he kept him on the bench. This season he needs to start Liggins but BCG’s to stubborn to make the change. I don’t get it and I never will.
Anyone ...
… who thought this game wasn’t going to be tough was simply mistaken. I knew it, you knew it, most people knew it.
I had hoped that Lamar, in combination with our performance in Las Vegas, indicated that we had turned a corner. I was clearly in error.
A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan
Agreed
i was nervous for a for good reason. My comment was not intended in your direction – to clear up any confusion.
Zone
In my (uneducated) opinion, the reason we can’t beat a zone consistently is that we never see it in practice. Since Gillispie refuses (apparently) to teach it as a defense, our players aren’t used to playing against it. Even if they learn a little bit of zone to work on it in practice (like the scout team QB), they obviously won’t be very good at it if it’s never used in a real game. So when we face a competent zone, we are lost.
C! A! T! S! CATS! CATS! CATS!
You would think ...
… that he isn’t fanatical enough to refuse to have the opposition play it in practice some. I just can’t believe that, that would be coaching malpractice.
A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan
Coaching Malpractice
Calling all lawyers, I think we have a new legal claim to pursue if this ship isn’t “righted” soon.
about the ESPN crew last night...
… I thought they were very fair calling the game… They continued to defend UK throughout…
making comments like:
“You have to remember, this is a very young UK team”
“Miami should never let a team this young back in the game”
“This young team should have been put away long ago”
“You can see the progress in this young Kentucky team each game”
just a few that i remember… they didn’t laugh at us like some of the ESPN guys have done in the past…
Steelers fan 1st! UK is my 2nd love.
I need a favor from the BBN
I need everyone to cheer my Steelers home against the ’Boys today..!
Steelers vs Cowboys @ 4:15pm
Kentucky vs Miss. valley St. @ 4:00pm…
???? Hummmm which one will i watch…
lol
Steelers fan 1st! UK is my 2nd love.
Two teams I can never cheer in pro football ...
… the Steelers and Kansas City. Sorry. :-)
A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan
I'll only have the chance
to watch the Steelers game here in Columbus. I’ll keep my laptop on the couch with the stats of the basketball game.
Dont follow NFL too much
The only team I cheer for is whichever one is currently playing the Bengals….
this is hilarious...
A quote form our beloved coach…
“We haven’t started very good against good competition and I don’t know what the problem is,” UK coach Billy Gillispie said..
hey coach, everyone else knows.!!!!
WAKE UP..!!!
Steelers fan 1st! UK is my 2nd love.
I have truly quit reading....
the mjority of what BCG says…..I don’t really believe half of what he says so I just ignore him and watch the team. I don’t mean to sound arrogant but I beleive there are two BCG’s. The aw-shucks public persona and the one which most of us do not see.
?
We can’t play against a good tough man-to-man, the UNC game showed us that…even though it WAS UNC.
We don’t do well against a zone. Last night showed us that.
Maybe someone will go box-and-one or triangle-and-two on us…
A link to today's game?
Anyone know if there is a link to today’s game. It would at least be nice to see Sean Woods again, and the game is far from available up here in Skokie.
Upcoming in the game thread...
… at 3:45.
It’s on FSN South, and Yahoo has an Internet radio broadcast. ESPN 360 should have it if your provider carries them.
A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan
First of all...
Great memories from the 80’s music venue… And yes Uk won this game today which I had no doubt they would.
But your talking about in your sleep brought back a very funny moment in my life when I was a golfaholic as my hubby called me after this incident. I mean I only had time for golf for maybe 3 times a week at the time with working for him…but I guess my mind was totally addicted. Anyway, we had gone out to the Friday night couples golf tourney, just a fun event…well I woke up sometime during the night and went hunting for balls in my flower beds….lol. Hubby woke me from my dream after I had been poking around for a bit. I will never forget that because I can remember him asking what I was doing out there at 3am in the morrning and I told him…finding my ball!
Hah!
Great story. I am a bit of a golfer myself, although not as much as I was when I was younger.
I can totally relate to that story, having been up to my neck in a nasty lake pulling out golf balls in my youth. :-)
A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan
BG falls in love
with certain players by how hard they play and not on there talent. This is bad coaching. Your team must come first, not your infactuation by how hard somebody plays. I believe that BG is still learning how to coach. He seems to excel everywhere but how he handles his personel during games. He seems to be very hard headed about this. If he is to reach the penacle of his profession then I believe he needs to drastically alter his thinking on who he plays and when. He refused to use the same linup that seemed to play so well together in the Lamar game. That Tru, I believe is what has you and I just ready to SCREAM.

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