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After carefully reconsidering what I saw last night, I have come to the conclusion that the Kentucky Wildcats may be much better this year than any of us suspected.  After last night, this is more than intuition.

Billy Gillispie said this today this about the team:

"This is the closest we've come to playing like we've practiced," Gillispie said. "We had our best practice of the year (Tuesday), and we came close to playing like that."

Folks, make no mistake -- if the Wildcats are capable of this type of play, especially considering that two major contributors didn't play significant minutes, they are capable of beating almost anyone.  I qualify that advisedly, since I have seen UNC and even Louisville play some basketball that was at least as good and possibly better in stretches this season.  I don't mean to say that the Tarheels and the Cardinals are equal by any means, just that I have seen Louisville play some high-quality ball at moments this season.  North Carolina has come the closest to doing it consistently.

I know it is easy to descend into blue-blinded hyperbole.  After all, this is just one game.  But I do get amped when Gillispie repeatedly says that his team practices better than it plays on the court.  That is a relatively unusual thing to happen on a consistent basis for a team, but pretty common for an individual (remember Josh Carrier?).  If Kentucky can continue this strong upward trend they are on for any significant length of time, the confidence that they will gain will make them much tougher automatically.  I believe it is a lack of confidence in themselves and their teammates that has lead them to such a slow start the last two years.

The more I think about DeAndre Liggins' game last night, the more impressed I am.  Liggins may not be a great leaper, but he really knows how to move his feet.  He is a very fast player, probably second only to Jodie Meeks when it comes to getting up and down the floor, and he proved it by keeping up with Ty Lawson in the North Carolina game.  I told you back during the Derby Festival Classic that Liggins was the best at getting the ball down the floor on the pass I had seen in years, and we really got some good looks at what that meant last night -- mainly dunks by a streaking Patterson.  Not only that, Liggins has developed a jump shot -- back last year, his shot was somewhat broken and unreliable, but it seems that he has done some successful surgery on it.   Liggins now looks capable of becoming a genuine threat from the perimeter, something UK badly needs from that position.

In my excitement about Liggins' sudden development, I have forgotten to mention the one guy who is really improving game to game -- Ramon Harris.  To be honest, I never believed Ramon Harris would be this good, and he hasn't come close to reaching his potential.  A lot of what Harris is bringing these days is mental toughness, and last night he was on his way to a monster game before he was injured.  If that injury turns out to be minor, as we all pray it will as it thankfully is, Harris has only just begun to show us the full measure of his ability.  I can hardly wait to see the rest.

Josh Harrellson is also getting better and more confident game by game.  He is starting to become a consistent three-point threat, and no team wants to face a guy his size hanging out on the arc -- that means double -teaming Patterson is very hard to do, and opponents really need to be able to do that.  Harrellson is in the process of taking that option away.  Combine that with Liggins' improved shooting from the perimeter, and suddenly the 'Cats look very threatening indeed.

Usually after games like last night, teams take a step back in their next game.  That will be the key to discovering if the 'Cats are likely to develop into a true threat this year, or will just peak out at "good, not great."  Of course, "great" is something that I don't expect even in my current optimistic state, but the level of execution last night was consistent with that of a "great" team, a team capable of beating anyone, anywhere, anytime.  So are we witnessing the birth of something special here, like we saw back in 2003 against Vanderbilt, or just another halcyon moment that will soon be washed away by mediocrity? 

I don't know, but I do hope.

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Speaking of optimism....

I recall a lot of pessimism early in the 2002-03 season, i.e. narrow escape from Athletes in Action and a loss to Nike (sigh). Now, I’m not so biased to think we might see a repeat of that sort of domination so soon as the ’03 Cats were top heavy with upperclassmen, but I think we can do some serious damage in the SEC if we can consistently play as a team.

by BigBlue87 on Dec 4, 2008 6:27 PM EST reply actions  

Plenty Of Negativity After Going 87-15 (#1 Record In College Hoops) In 2003-04-05 Too

That just came with the circumstances.

The 2009 team is talented and deep. But neither as talented or as deep as 2002 Cats.

They went 22-10 but did make Sweet 16.

by FortyYearCatFan on Dec 4, 2008 7:31 PM EST up reply actions  

thats a good point, and i really think that vmi loss isnt really that significant. the team has forgotten it, as they should have and that team that lost to the keydets is nothing like the cats i saw last night.

by hummer11092 on Dec 4, 2008 7:05 PM EST reply actions  

They're playing well

An SEC championship is definitely in play, although I think a lot of us thought that would be the case before the season started. There’s nobody in the West who’s any good and Tennessee and Florida appear to be the only competition in the East.

I think this squad can have a season comparable in achievement to the 2000-2001 team – SEC title and Sweet 16 run. That would make for a nice season this year and give the team a great springboard for 09-10.

But that’s all still far in the future. Right now I am really interested to see how they play against Miami. I would imagine that Porter and Harris will not play as a precaution, and that’s probably a good idea – we don’t want McClinton taking any swipes at them ;-)

"That's not a Sherman tank, it's Frank Thomas!" - Monkeyball

by JLeverenz on Dec 4, 2008 7:15 PM EST reply actions  

Heh.

… Yeah, Patrick Patterson might have to mop the floor with the remaining shreds of his body. :-)

A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan

by Glenn Logan on Dec 4, 2008 7:17 PM EST up reply actions  

McClinton / Ohiho State player exchange went something like this...

Ohio State player: “McClinton, we’re gonna’ kick your ass”

McClinton: “well, I hope you can enjoy the victory with one friggin’ eye”

lol.. something like that….

Steelers fan 1st! UK is my 2nd love.

by vinceuk1 on Dec 4, 2008 7:22 PM EST reply actions  

Not so sure

about talent or depth at point guard. That remains to be seen. I predicted UK to win the SEC before the season and I still do. UK has a 1-2 punch in Meeks and Patterson that is as strong as any in the country and that spells WINS.

by MyBloodRunsBlue on Dec 5, 2008 11:11 AM EST up reply actions  

Vision

Ilike your vision Forty….lets hope its 20/20!!

" I believe in pipedreams"

by Magnoliacat on Dec 4, 2008 8:27 PM EST reply actions  

Best

I’d like it best if 6 of those 28 wins came in the NCAA tourney! ;)

by Acdixon on Dec 5, 2008 10:01 AM EST up reply actions  

I'd be very happy with 2 wins

Its been far, far too long since we saw the Sweet 16.

Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."

by chirop1 on Dec 5, 2008 4:01 PM EST up reply actions  

2005 And

2003, 2002, 2001, 1999, 1998.

by FortyYearCatFan on Dec 5, 2008 5:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Like I said...

Far too long.

In my opinion, Kentucky basketball should never be worse than the top 20 in the country… and that’s roughly where you should expect to finish in the Sweet 16 every year.

Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."

by chirop1 on Dec 5, 2008 5:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Facts

In years of following UK (1996 until now), UK has been NR in Top 20 these yaers:

1967, 1974, 1976, 1979, 1985, 1987, 1989, 1990, 2006, 2007, 2008.

That’s 11 of 43 seasons, or about 25% of the time.

In that timeframe, UK has been in Sweet 16 these years:

1966, 1968-69-70-71-72-73, 1975, 1977-78, 1980, 1983-84-85-86, 1988, 1992-93, 1995-96-97-98-99, 2001-02-03, 2005.

That’s 27 of 43 seasons, or about 60% of the time.

Not EVERY year.

by FortyYearCatFan on Dec 5, 2008 6:24 PM EST up reply actions  

very positive thinking there forty...

How long you been a fan again…?

Steelers fan 1st! UK is my 2nd love.

by vinceuk1 on Dec 5, 2008 5:05 PM EST up reply actions  

That's AVERAGE

UK averages Sweet 16 in 6 of 10 years.

by FortyYearCatFan on Dec 5, 2008 5:14 PM EST up reply actions  

LOL

I think his name is outdated by a few years or more.

by kykat51 on Dec 5, 2008 6:21 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm beginning to think ...

… that may be pessimistic. The final eight is looking like an outside possibility if this team continues to improve as they are now.

I’m not predicting that yet, but I have seen some things that make me think it is not a long a shot as it was earlier.

A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan

by Glenn Logan on Dec 5, 2008 4:19 PM EST up reply actions  

As always

That will depend on seeding and match-ups.

Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."

by chirop1 on Dec 5, 2008 4:45 PM EST up reply actions  

while watching the USC-Okahoma game on ESPN...

I’ve noticed that USC is a very dirt and undisciplined team… hopefully, it’s just me…

Steelers fan 1st! UK is my 2nd love.

by vinceuk1 on Dec 4, 2008 8:30 PM EST reply actions  

I saw that too

My girlfriend and I were watching it and she commented that USC just looked like a dirty team.

Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."

by chirop1 on Dec 5, 2008 7:25 AM EST up reply actions  

Heh.

Leonard Washington looks like a good player for, I don’t know, maybe a federal prison team. Got ejected for hitting an opponent in the groin. Not nice.

A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan

by Glenn Logan on Dec 5, 2008 7:58 AM EST up reply actions  

Tim Floyd

seems like a prick every time I see him on TV.

by mrmondaynite on Dec 5, 2008 11:18 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm getting optimistic too

We certainly have the makings of a great team:
Two Stars: Patterson, Meeks
Solid Position Players: Liggins, Harris, Stevenson, Harrellson, Miller, Porter (at the 2)

Need more experience at the point for a deep NCAA run, but other than that we’re stocked!

by EEWildcat on Dec 4, 2008 8:55 PM EST reply actions  

How about a football half time score....

Rutgers—49
Loserville—0

That’s right…. HALF TIME..!

ieeieiieieeieieiieiieiieie

lol

Steelers fan 1st! UK is my 2nd love.

by vinceuk1 on Dec 4, 2008 9:20 PM EST reply actions  

UConn

Well I was going to make a post asking what is the worst lost of the year so far, UK/VMI, UL/WKY, or UCONN/Buffalo but somehow UCONN pulled it out at the end and won by 4.

I love my 14 new Fox Sports channels. Thank you Sports New York channel for letting me watch UConn play!

by blueninja on Dec 4, 2008 9:59 PM EST reply actions  

"20 Strong"

Yes,I agree that this team has great potential,and I think with Liggins play we are starting to see the future that looks very,very good.When judging BG and his style of play,it all comes down to effieciency and toughness,on both sides of the ball.The team is starting to see the floor better as a whole,and shot selection seems to get better with each game.This team could really be a darkhorse come March,because of what I have seen it is UNC and everyone else.

by -Zoso- on Dec 5, 2008 6:56 AM EST reply actions  

The Last UK Teams To Be 20 Strong

The Cats of the mid to late 1940’s had 19 or 20 players on the varsity rosters.

by FortyYearCatFan on Dec 5, 2008 7:12 AM EST reply actions  

So does that make this team ...

… a “throwback?”

:-)

Great stat, Forty.

A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan

by Glenn Logan on Dec 5, 2008 7:59 AM EST up reply actions  

1946 Thru 1949

The rosters were full because of players returning from WW2 service.

NIT champs. NIT runner-up. NCAA champs back-2-back. Olympic Gold Medalists.

Undefeated in SEC competition. Undefeated at home.

by FortyYearCatFan on Dec 5, 2008 8:12 AM EST up reply actions  

I guess that would be acceptable for this group

But we’d still complain about those 10 L’s. . . :)

C! A! T! S! CATS! CATS! CATS!

by NYCCats on Dec 5, 2008 8:42 AM EST up reply actions  

Adolph Rupp Only Had 2 Teams With 10+ L

1965 (15-10) and 1967 (13-13). Both had Riley and Dampier in the lineup. The first had Conley and Kron also.

I guess Thad Jaracz was the Missing Link that made Rupps Runts?

by FortyYearCatFan on Dec 5, 2008 9:02 AM EST reply actions  

UofL/Lamar

Looks like Louisville gets their shot at Lamar on Monday (12/8). I think it will be interesting to see them against an opponent that we have already played and see how they match up. If they are as good as they are supposed to be, they should have no difficulty blowing them out. We shall see……

by kentuckygirl0724 on Dec 5, 2008 1:23 PM EST reply actions  

Yes

I will definitely be listening to that game.

by kykat51 on Dec 5, 2008 6:18 PM EST reply actions  

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