Kentucky 103, Lamar 61: Post Mortem
The entire Big Blue Nation anxiously awaits word about the condition of Ramon Harris tonight, who suffered a blow to the head when he collided viciously with Michael Porter in tonight's game with Lamar University. As of this writing, no further word is available other than that the initial tests to Razor Ramon have been positive. We cannot breathe easy yet, but so far, so good.
Props to the Lamar Cardinals for coming in and playing hard tonight, absent three of their better players. Lamar has been very successful so far this year, and my guess is, that success will continue despite the lopsided nature of this game. They are a very sound basketball team and did a lot of good things tonight, but they just ran up against a highly motivated and more talented Kentucky team.
While we await word on Harris' condition, let's see what we can take away from tonight's game. I apologize, first of all, for the lateness of the report, but my wife and I are both suffering from a bad cold we brought home with us, and that has made normal life rather more difficult than usual. I am also aware of the oddity on the blog that has created two open game threads. The servers were undergoing maintenance tonight, and I can only assume that is partially responsible for the problem, but rest assured that I have identified the issue to the technical team and they will be dealing with it as soon as possible.
But with all that aside, here are my takeaway's from tonight's action from the perspective of the players:
- DeAndre Liggins was outstanding in every way. Liggins was 6-6 from the floor with seven rebounds, four assists and two turnovers, a block and a steal in 27 minutes of action.
- Perry Stevenson's line looks nice, but he had only 4 total rebounds in sixteen minutes. Stevenson has been gradually disappearing from the team lately.
- As Stevenson has faded recently, Josh Harrellson has risen. Tonight he had 12 points including 2 three-pointers in 24 minutes of action, along with 7 rebounds.
- Darius Miller got back on track tonight including three very nice assists and a solid floor game. Only three unsightly turnovers marred an otherwise very strong performance.
- Kevin Galloway saw his first extended minutes of the season, going 0-3 from the field but carting 5 assists and only 1 turnover. That had to bring a smile to Billy Gillispie's face.
- Patrick Patterson got the ball early and often tonight, and his line reflects that -- 11-12 from the field for 31 points, 3 assists and 3 turnovers. The only troubling statistic are his three measly rebounds, which simply will not do.
- Jodie Meeks had a solid 19 points tonight, but the really outstanding part of his game were the six assists vs. only one turnover, a complete reversal from his recent games with respect to ball handling.
- Ramon Harris was on his way to a monster, career game before his injury. In only six minutes, Harris had five points, 3 assists and zero turnovers. I pray that his injury is minor, and not just because Razor Ramon gets better with every passing moment.
All in all, the players had good games and did some very nice things out there. It was far from a perfect game, but the team really brought the defensive intensity early and got up huge on Lamar, putting them away early and convincingly, which brings me to my remarks about overall team play:
- The execution tonight, particularly in the first half, was a thing that had to warm the cockles of every Kentucky fan's heart. Sharp passing, tough defense and solid ballhandling all together at the same time are something we simply have not seen even once this year -- until now, at least for one half.
- The running game tonight was by far the best I have seen from a Kentucky game since 2004. It was something we all suspected that UK could do, and even though the foe tonight was athletically overmatched, it was nice to see it return.
- Twenty-five assists and sixteen turnovers. Folks, it doesn't get much better than that. That's called sharing the basketball.
- Seven steals as a team is not very impressive. Steals are a stat that Kentucky has lagged in all year, and they continue to do so.
- Only eight offensive rebounds would normally be another cause for concern, but UK shot 64% from the field, so not a lot of OR's were available.
- UK allowed 13 OR's, and that is a cause for frustration. There is no excuse for that given Kentucky's advantages in size and athleticism.
- UK shot 50% from the three-point arc, while giving up only 16%. The part I really like is the improvement in 3-point defense against a good shooting Lamar team.
- UK shooting 80% from the charity stripe tonight continues to impress. Earlier in the year, I worried that free throw shooting might suffer due to all the new faces. It seems those concerns were unfounded after all.
Overall, this was the kind of game that makes me think that the team has carried the lessons they learned in Las Vegas back to Lexington with them, and that is a very good sign. Tonight, we got a taste of just how good this team can be when hitting on almost all cylinders, and ladies and gentlemen of the Big Blue Nation, that taste was pretty much delicious.
I am not ready to anoint UK as a national title contender or even the odds-on favorite to win the SEC, but what we saw tonight is a team making noticeable improvement from game to game, from week to week. That is really all you can ask, and right now, it feels like my intuition that this UK team turned a corner in the Las Vegas Invitational was more right than wrong. Despite that, it will take continued improvement to really put to rest the lingering doubts from the Gardener-Webb and VMI games as to how far the program has come in the last two years and in what direction, but there is no doubt that right now, this team seems to solidly on course to reach many of the objectives we had all hoped for this year.
The evidence of the eyes suggests that Gillispie's mild and somewhat controversial reaction to Liggins' insubordination in Sin City was exactly the right prescription to cure the ills we had seen in DeAndre's game up until this point. It is always hard to figure out how young players will react to adversity, and it is often possible for a coach to magnify the impact of that adversity on both the player and team by hewing too closely to conventional wisdom. Sometimes gambles like Gillispie made in his handling of Liggins pay off and sometimes they don't, but if this game is any indication, Gillispie may have hit a jackpot in Las Vegas by rolling the dice instead of making the safe and obvious play.
That's all for tonight. We'll have more, as always, tomorrow.
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for the update. I was at church tonight came home and looked it up and the first thing I saw was Kentucky guard hurt. Hope everything is ok. Already hearing pathetic things like “payback from hurting Zellar from NC”. Really disturbing. Hope he is ok. Keep us updated.
Me too
I was listening to the radio on the way to church and heard them talk about the collision. Sounded uber-scary, but we’ll hope both guys will be OK. Agree that the “payback” comments are classless, but apparently Beisner at KSR has heard some UK “fans” hoping Porter and Harris miss time to open PT for Miller and Liggins.
That’s really classless.
Ugh.
Mortifying. The lunatic fringe really give UK fans a bad name.
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By "church" I hope you two mean...
Rupp Arena.
Otherwise you are going to give people the wrong idea that Kentucky’s not really Basketball First and Jesus Second.
My former pastor
At the Baptist church would sometimes start the 11 o’clock sermons on gameday Sundays with “I know there’s a ball game at 12:30. Don’t worry, we’ll all be out of here in time to be home for tip off.”
This always drew a few chuckles… but I really think he knew there’d be a lot of grumpy people if he held us late those days!
Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."
Our Catholic priest...
Used to always start his sermons the same way on game days…always out in time!
Ramon and Porter
Both injured in that collision of the two. Porter took 10 stiches above his eye and hopefully Ramon will be ok.
I just listened
To Coach’s post game conference over at kentucky.com
You could tell by his voice he was shaken by the injuries and worried. He said they are my kids, my boys. Mike will be ok but 10 stitches is not a small thing. Ramon, I pray everything is ok with him.
I remember that too
and Porter was a stud football player wasn’t he? maybe he is prone to concussions…
by MyBloodRunsBlue on Dec 4, 2008 4:09 PM EST up reply actions
was the UNC loss that bad..?
In hindsight, this “may” not be as bad as first thought…
Considering what UNC did to #6 ND on a neutral court, 102-87
and #12 Mich. State @ Ford Field, 98-63…
UNC may be one of those “magic” teams, mush like the ’96 Cats…
hell, UK played them pretty damn good on their home court… lol
Steelers fan 1st! UK is my 2nd love.
just think
that if we would have taken care of the ball and not shot ourselves in the foot we may have won that game, Miami though will be a test. They lost yesterday and that scares me. They have lost two in a row and they will be gunning for us.
let 'em come-a-gunnin'
We have guns too, and plenty of them….! lol
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One of my favorite
lines/scenes in a movie!! Someone on this site made the BCG-Wyatt Earp comparison and I could not agree more!
by kentuckygirl0724 on Dec 4, 2008 9:12 AM EST up reply actions
To be fair, UNC had Hansbrough for those two games
Also, Michigan State was without their best player (Goran Suton) and their good freshman post player (Delvon Roe) is playing limited minutes due to knee surgery.
But yeah, that performance looks better now that we have some other games to compare it too.
"That's not a Sherman tank, it's Frank Thomas!" - Monkeyball
Yes considering
Playing them at home early…not too bad for UK.
But I am going tobed…some nite owls here to keep your entertained :-) Ken is one lol!
Hope Harris Is OK
Good to see Patterson the focus of the offense again.
I still see 12 W () in OOC and 12 W () in SEC including SECT for 25 W (+) going into NCAA.
I hope you are right...
Forty, as our resident history buff, can you recall a season in recent history where the Cats had such an overtly easy non-conference schedule? Given the youth of our team, I’m not complaining. However, this year’s non-conference schedule seems more like something the Gators would put together rather than the mighty Wildcats.
We had a similarly easy schedule ...
… back in 2004-2005. This one is arguably easier, but if so, not by much.
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That One But Not Many Others
UK eased up its SOS in early 1990’s but then toughened them back up in mid 1990’s through 2000’s.
Florida, Syracuse, UConn, Georgetown (et al) play relatively weak OOC schedule most years.
by FortyYearCatFan on Dec 4, 2008 11:18 AM EST up reply actions
syracuse
they always play nobody before conference play. i don’t know if it’s like this every year, but wither in ‘06 or ’07 they didn’t have to leave NY until january.
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by UKWildCatFanatic on Dec 4, 2008 11:56 AM EST up reply actions
Nah, Syracuse always schedules that way
Which makes Jim Boeheim’s whining about being left out of the NCAA tournament the last two years all the more hilarious.
"That's not a Sherman tank, it's Frank Thomas!" - Monkeyball
i thought so
but was too lazy to look up their schedules. with a schedule like that, you should just take what you get and be happy with it.
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by UKWildCatFanatic on Dec 4, 2008 1:27 PM EST up reply actions
Jim Boeheim should have taken notes from...
…Alabama’s Mark Gottfried… I think they finish something like 16-11 one year, but they had played the toughest schedule in the country and got an invite…
The NCAA, for all their problems, will reward teams that play tough schedules if you can manage to beat a couple of those teams…
Steelers fan 1st! UK is my 2nd love.
That last part is what gets overlooked a lot of times
The NCAA, for all their problems, will reward teams that play tough schedules if you can manage to beat a couple of those teams…
Around tournament time you’ll see a lot of fans and coaches talking about how tough a schedule they played, sometimes using RPI numbers or games against ranked opponents to make their case. What they usually forget about is that you have to actually win some of those games against good teams for the tough schedule to do you any good.
"That's not a Sherman tank, it's Frank Thomas!" - Monkeyball
exactly...
lots of schools play tough schedules, but unless you show the ability to beat 2-3 of those “good teams”, then your schedule means nothing…
And it really helps to beat them on a neutral or their home floor…
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Boeheim NCAA Champion In 2003
His scheduling worked fine that year.
The B-East conference schedule is so tough that weak OOC schedules are the norm in BE.
by FortyYearCatFan on Dec 4, 2008 4:57 PM EST up reply actions
carmelo
i’d say it was more carmelo anthony then scheduling that worked out for syracuse in 2003.
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by UKWildCatFanatic on Dec 4, 2008 5:06 PM EST up reply actions
Not So
That Syracuse team had far more talent than just Carmelo Anthony.
by FortyYearCatFan on Dec 4, 2008 5:16 PM EST up reply actions
didn't say it was just melo
obviously one player isn’t going to win the NCAAs by himself, no matter how good he is. i’m just saying he had more to do with it then their schedule. a little reading comprehension never hurt anybody.
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by UKWildCatFanatic on Dec 4, 2008 5:30 PM EST up reply actions
Scheduling Has NOTHING To Do With It
That’s why Florida plays creampuffs and wins NCAA in 2006 and 07.
UConn does and wins NCAA in 1999 and 2004. Syracuse ditto in 2003.
Creampuff OOC = NCAA title (more often than not) in recent years.
by FortyYearCatFan on Dec 4, 2008 8:20 PM EST up reply actions
it helps when those teams you've mentioned..
…are loading with NBA talent…
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Yes
Talent and experience are more important than scheduling.
by FortyYearCatFan on Dec 5, 2008 7:14 AM EST up reply actions
talent
florida wasn’t the only team playing weak OOC schedule in 2006 and 2007. nor was UCONN in 99 and 04 or Syracuse in 03. How about those teams playing creampuffs? Why didn’t they win more? TALENT.
and your subject line says scheduling has NOTHING to do with it, yet your last line states creampuff OCC = NCAA Title more often then not in recent years…so which way you going with it, 40?
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by UKWildCatFanatic on Dec 4, 2008 11:27 PM EST up reply actions
Schedule Is Red Herring
You can win NC with weak OOC schedule. It has nothing to do with it.
That’s my point.
by FortyYearCatFan on Dec 5, 2008 7:15 AM EST up reply actions
i don't where we got all mixed up
that was my point too…looks like we got all twisted up! :-)
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by UKWildCatFanatic on Dec 5, 2008 10:41 AM EST up reply actions
it may have, that 1 year...
…but, how many tourney’s have they missed because of their scheduling, or lack there of…
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2008 Schedule
http://kenpom.com/sked.php?y=2008&team=Kentucky&t=p There were 7 teams rated 200 or higher (worse).
The 2009 schedule is comparable. UNC, Louisville, WVU, Miami and mostly easier games otherwise.
by FortyYearCatFan on Dec 4, 2008 11:35 AM EST up reply actions
Gators
Not like UK schedules the past few years but not hardly like a Gators schedule that doesnt leave the state of Florida more than once.
DEEETROIT BASKETBALLL!!!
Yeah ...
… and the schedule for the Gators rarely includes anyone the caliber of Louisville, Indiana (normally) or UNC. Throw in Miami and the Las Vegas Invitational, and this schedule is really tougher than most people think. Imagine how tough WVU would have been had Joe Alexander remained.
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It's also good that those games are road/neutral
4 of the 5 toughest games this year are on the road or at neutral sites, which is nice when you’re looking ahead at the RPI and tournament profile.
In future schedules, I would really love to see UK play one in-state road game each year, like EKU, Morehead, Murray State, etc. It would give the team a chance to play a very winnable game in a hostile environment, create some excitement for fans of other in-state schools, and help the RPI all at the same time.
"That's not a Sherman tank, it's Frank Thomas!" - Monkeyball
Never going to happen
UK playing an in state road game will never happen again unless it’s on the road to UofL. UK is just giving up way too much money missing that game in Rupp for them to go on the road against a team in Kentucky not named UofL
DEEETROIT BASKETBALLL!!!
Thanks for the compliment...
…coming from someone who consistently brings up the loss to mighty WKU, that speaks volumes. I don’t get these games up here in Chicago, but that win last night must have been impressive. It sounds like they are getting the ball in PPats hands early which is critical to starting out strong. Hopefully they have learned that….
'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'
Compliment
Not a really a compliment more like ecnonomics. UofL is a high level D-1 program with a historic series versus UK. No other school in the state could command a road game from UK or pay them nearly what they would lose in funds from missing out on another home game. UofL is the same. You will never see UofL play an in state road game versus any Kentucky school except for UK. It’s not really a compliment to UofL merely the way money runs the show at the D-1 level. Please dont mistake anything i say to be a compliement to UofL.
DEEETROIT BASKETBALLL!!!
Another compliment?!?!
UofL is a high level D-1 program
Wow, you can’t help yourself…you may want to visit a doctor.
'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'
where in chicago?
i was going to ask before if you from chicago because of the untouchables quote. i live in schaumburg…sucks not getting most of the games out here.
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by UKWildCatFanatic on Dec 4, 2008 3:57 PM EST up reply actions
Rolling Meadows Here
Work downtown. Live in RM at 53 and Kirchoff.
by FortyYearCatFan on Dec 4, 2008 4:58 PM EST up reply actions
Raised in Ft. Thomas, KY...
….but have lived 10 years here in Naperville. Interested in your memory of Liggins when he played highschool ball here in Chicago. Do you guys remember anything of note regarding his play?
'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'
HS ball
I don’t really follow HS sports at all…I’ve lived my whole life here in the Chicago area, but the only time I followed HS sports was when I was in high school :-)
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by UKWildCatFanatic on Dec 5, 2008 10:43 AM EST up reply actions
You're not still in college then are you?
Don’t quite follow the logic. I just don’t remember Liggins being mentioned much….and I do read the Trib and Sun on a regular basis.
'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'
no, graduated HS in '99
so I knew a little back in the late 90s. I read the Tribune as well, but completely skip over their Preps Plus section (i don’t even know if they still call it that). 40 i think follows it more closely than i do.
Also Liggins played in Vegas last year at Findlay Prep(?), so he wouldn’t get much of a mention around here last year.
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by UKWildCatFanatic on Dec 5, 2008 11:40 AM EST up reply actions
Yep.
Findlay Prep is where he was, the same Findlay that ran the Las Vegas Invitational.
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you'll get to know him real well when...
…he’s dropping dimes on your beloved Cardinals…
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That's Right!
He’ll be the one “makin’ it rain!”
by kentuckygirl0724 on Dec 5, 2008 3:03 PM EST up reply actions
Just Got Back From Naperville
Had lunch at BD’s Mongolian BBQ in downtown Naperville.
Liggins was the top junior in Chicago in 2007 but was too old (20) to play as a senior last year, so he prepped in Las Vegas instead.
by FortyYearCatFan on Dec 5, 2008 3:39 PM EST up reply actions
I think ...
… I did read that somewhere. In fact, I’m sure of it.
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Yeah I know
I still think it’s a good scheduling practice though. Taking a team on the road to UNC or UL or Michigan State is a bad way to play your first road game. Better to get some experience in a hostile environment against a team you outmatch (or should outmatch). That way you get experience playing on the road in a a game you can win and when you go on the road against better teams the crowd factor is lessened.
"That's not a Sherman tank, it's Frank Thomas!" - Monkeyball
Favorite play of the night
In the first half Patterson had his man sealed off and Galloway took a dribble towards the baseline and gave a perfect bounce pass which Patterson scored off of. That play has been there a bunch of times this season, but usually whomever has had the ball has looked at Patrick for 0.3 seconds and then passed the ball back up top. It was good to see someone finally make that pass.
The pass from Patterson to Ramon in the first half was pretty sweet too.
"That's not a Sherman tank, it's Frank Thomas!" - Monkeyball
Stop The Ball!
Something I haven’t seen mentioned: Cats ability to stop dribble penetration. That was supposed to be a strength of Larmar (I don’t think the missing players were guards) but for second game in a row UK stopped penetration of quicker but smaller players and, maybe just as important, when there was penetration help was quick to arrive or already in position. Much improved, even over last year.
Exactly
The help side defense was excellent and totally took Lamar out of their gameplan. Instead of dribble penetration and a pass to the open man, the guards had nothing resulting in numerous poor shots and blowout.
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