Sunday Open Thread: Landon Slone edition
This morning, I feel a tiny, teensy bit better about yesterday's game with FAU. I am not generally too accepting of coaches' remarks when they say, "I thought they played out of their minds," in reference to the other team, but it definitely has the ring of truth in this particular case. FAU was simply terrific in many ways, and even though UK's defense (or rather, lack thereof) was partially responsible, FAU was scoring on us even when our defense was very good.
Here are some articles and commentary from around Al Gore's Folly:
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"Until Porter got on him, I thought we put a lot of 'efenders' on him," Gillispie said. "No 'D.' "
So said Coach Gillispie in this Jerry Tipton article. Funny. Further to my other point above, note this comment from Mike Porter about Graham:
Heh. Jodie Meeks would know about that. Ask him. Just not today.The run grew to 10-0 before Shavar Richardson hit a three-pointer. That was Florida Atlantic's only basket from the 14:33 mark until Graham hit an awkward 15-foot banker over Porter with 7:18 left.
"Oh gosh, that made me mad," Porter said. "He was on tonight. He was just making shots. I guess when you're playing like that, everything falls."
- John Clay looks at Landon Slone's contribution to the game yesterday, and wonders if Slone is the next Cameron Mills. Could be. Another article by the News-Enterprise quotes Gillispie thus:
"The first two or three times he touched the ball, he immediately improves his angle to throw the ball to Pat or throws to Josh and does a real good job of feeding the post," Gillispie said. "He’s a very smart player. Who knows what could happen for him? I thought he gave us the biggest spark of anyone on our team today."
I think this illustrates a clear problem with some of our guard play. Michael Porter got taken to task in the game for just dribbling aimlessly on the right wing without trying to improve his position to enter the post -- dribbling purposelessly. Gillispie called an immediate timeout and coached him on this point. All our other guards need to learn this same lesson. - Straightpinkie has post-game thoughts. I agree with some, not so much with others.
- The Associated Press says that Stevenson got blasted by his teammates in the locker room at halftime:
“We told him to pick it up,” Kentucky center Patrick Patterson said of Stevenson. “When we were in the locker room, we said some things I’m not able to say here. We tried to pick him up, lift his spirits, make him angry.”
Whatever works, and for the record, that appeared to work. - The Frankfort State-Journal has more praise for Landon Slone.
- Rick Bozich has praise for Michael Porter. Well earned, I would say.
- John Clay has game thoughts on his blog. I think these are very cogent.
- ECU says they are ready for the 'Cats in the Liberty Bowl. Hartline gets a fresh start at quarterback.
Discuss.
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Slone gave UK some valuable minutes...
I love his toughness and desire but for goodness sake he has to hit those wide open 3 pointers.
Yeah, that's kind of ...
… his thing, I think. I wouldn’t envision him as a defensive stopper. :-)
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3-Star Defensive Tackle Signs With Kentucky
Does anyone know anything about this new signee for UK football?
Here is the link:
http://www.courier-journal.com/blogs/catsfan/blog.html
Will be eligible for 3 years.
He looks ...
… like a keeper to me. 303# is really good size, and a 4.6 40 is darn fast for a DL.
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Stevenson
I find it encouraging that the players are policing their own locker room, with PPat telling Perry to get his head out of his a$$ at halftime. Nice to see that leadership developing, and the players responding.
C! A! T! S! CATS! CATS! CATS!
It is nice.
I think this team is going to be fine, leadership-wise.
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Porter
Stepped up to guard that dang Graham that so many others could not stop. 10" of scar in that guy’s face. LOL What a go tough guy!
He's ...
… a tough kid, and he is playing very well right now. I hope it continues forever.
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Tru
Nice to know you are feeling a tiny bit better today after the game yesterday.
Gotta have a little bit of faith in Coach :-)
I do have faith in his ability to do the work ...
… but I don’t necessarily agree with him. There is a difference.
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Observations
Meeks & UK shot poorly and FAU shot lights out.. the 3 point differential was the story of the game.
Porter continues to be unimpressive; his play is not something to get excited about.
In 13 games he has only made more than one field goal once and that was 3 against Delaware State. He is shooting 28% from the floor and 22% from the three point line. Hasn’t made it to the free throw line in 8 games. If UK were in the OVC then and only then would I be optimistic about his play.
by MyBloodRunsBlue on Dec 28, 2008 6:54 PM EST reply actions
Now, wait a minute ...
Besides Porter’s shooting, what was “unexciting” about it? Porter has had exactly 21 assists and 5 turnovers in the last five games. That, my friend, is better than a 4-1 A/To ratio, and that’s damn good.
I am still a Porter skeptic, but he did a good job on Graham and ran the team well yesterday. Granted, FAU is not top competition, and that’s where I am still a bit doubtful. But let’s look at reality — other than shooting the ball poorly, Porter is playing at a very high level right now. He may not continue it, but right now he is playing great by any standard.
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Do you not see what Porter is contributing to this team?
He is not a true point guard. He has been asked by his Coach to assume the role while the freshmen, Liggins and Galloway, are in transition to Div 1 college ball. Porter was the only player that wanted to attempt to guard Graham after the others, 4?, had failed to slow him down. I could not see the game, just radio, but I know what I have read and heard all over the Internet.
This team will be fine.
He played very well.
Your ears did not deceive you.
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I have to agree MyBloodRunsThrough
We have to remember the competition lately has been weak. I like Porter’s hustle and heart but I wish he was a back up instead of a starter. Maybe 10 minutes instead of 20 a game but really our point guard situation is not good. People seem to think the low turnover number yesterday was impressive but FAU does’t pressure the ball. That is why the low number. It is true we don’t know what really goes on behind the scene but Liggin’s is the future and I would of liked to of seen him get more minutes early so he can be ready for SEC time. You can bet that UL and most of the SEC teams will press Uk and it scares me.
Yes, but ...
… a couple of the other teams we have played did pressure the ball. Look, let’s give credit where it is due. Porter is playing very well. It’s OK to remain skeptical of him until he proves it against top competition, and I am as well.
But it is wrong not to acknowledge how well he is playing of late. Good comp or bad, he is playing very well in every facet of the game but shooting. I’m glad for him, and hope he can keep it up.
Louisville will surely be a big test for him. That will give us much more information about the limits of his effectiveness.
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I root like heck for
Porter. He is a Wildcat and I root for all of them. He is looking much better. It is not his fault he is not a gifted athlete. He does try to make up for it with hustle and that’s all we can ask of him.
Yes let's give credit where it is due..
against OVC type competition Porter doesn’t turn the ball over .. he still cannot score, nor can he take it to the basket, etc.. but again, against OVC type teams he does have a good assist to turnover ration. Now, why am I not all that excited about it????
by MyBloodRunsBlue on Dec 28, 2008 8:14 PM EST up reply actions
Which OVC Team Has Played UK This Season?
I don’t remember one on the OOC schedule.
Gillispie was highly praising Porter. I trust his evaluation of his game.
by FortyYearCatFan on Dec 28, 2008 8:51 PM EST up reply actions
read more carefully..
I am spot on, I am absolutely correct.
by MyBloodRunsBlue on Dec 28, 2008 8:54 PM EST up reply actions
Not How Gillispie Sees It
He praised Porter for his play.
by FortyYearCatFan on Dec 28, 2008 9:03 PM EST up reply actions
Oh I am sure
BCG agrees with me.. do you think it has escaped BCG that Porter “good play” has been against OVC type competition? I think not… now old timer, read carefully, I did not say against OVC teams, seeing as how that escaped you ….
by MyBloodRunsBlue on Dec 28, 2008 9:13 PM EST up reply actions
I Think You're Wrong
Surely Gillspie knows what he is saying (and doing).
by FortyYearCatFan on Dec 28, 2008 9:37 PM EST up reply actions
Well, I don't think you can support that statement.
Based on Gillispie’s utterances, he disagrees with both you and me. I also think Porter is not the best choice for starting at the point, but the facts are against me — and you.
You realize that Gillispie has started Porter every game. That is a fact. His A/TO ratio is 1.38/1 per forty minutes, Liggins is only 1.05/1. Galloway’s is best at 1.7/1, but he has played less than a third of the minutes of Liggins and Porter, and against overall weaker competition.
The two guys who have played the most against similar competition are Porter and Liggins, and right now, Porter’s point guard statistics are better. Not by a huge amount, but better. Liggins has more points, more rebounds and more steals, but only by a little.
By the end of the year, Liggins may be the starting point. I do hope so, because he has a much, much higher ceiling than Porter. But right now, in my judgment, Porter is playing better.
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by Glenn Logan on Dec 28, 2008 10:58 PM EST up reply actions
Look ...
First off, he doesn’t need to score. Second, we will find out soon enough if Porter can handle the increased competition, but right now he is playing well, regardless.
I just think it is unnecessary to qualify your praise repeatedly. Ever heard of the old saying, “Damnation by faint praise?”
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by Glenn Logan on Dec 28, 2008 10:35 PM EST up reply actions
I hope he can
handle the increased competition. However, there is no indication and no history to suggest he will. Uhm, Porter doesn’t need to score? Really? And I suppose he doesn’t need to be capable of dribble penetration either..
Come on now, my blood is blue but let’s be honest, unless UK is playing Morehead, Cleveland State or Lexington Henry Clay, Porter is in over his head.
OK, I will stop with the Porter banter and hope he proves me wrong and I will gladly, very gladly, admit to as much…
by MyBloodRunsBlue on Dec 29, 2008 12:30 AM EST up reply actions
Check Porter's Stats Against UNC Last Year And This Year
He played well (statistically) both games.
by FortyYearCatFan on Dec 29, 2008 6:42 AM EST up reply actions
Porter is not
a shooting guard either. You have to be able to shoot to play the position. He seems to of lost his confidence in his shot.
He ...
… tinkered with his shot over the summer, and I am going to say it isn’t working out for him so far.
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I am starting to see
Darius Miller lose confidence and that is what happens if you think you are going to come out of the game if you screw up. Harrelson had that ugly 3 point miss yesterday and he never saw the court again in the second half. Harrelson’s defense does’t help him either but I think that will come with playing time and watching film.
Miller's ...
… release is broken. He shoots on the way down. It’s going to take a while to fix.
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This team is going to get better
and our record will be impressive by tourament time but a lot of that will be because of the SEC being down. This week of practice should help go along way and we should see a set rotation soon.
Team will improve...
It did last year. PPat will step in and handle that Galloway-Pilgrim disturbance at practice Friday. The team players love Liggins…just a matter of time.
Sit back and enjoy your 08-09 Wildcats BB team. And for god’s sake quit worrying about this and that. It is supposed to be fun and it will be.
The Galloway-Pilgrim thing is a non-issue.
Those guys are roommates and good friends.
Gillispie throws players out of practice all the time. And managers. And assistant coaches. I heard a manager say last year that everyone had been thrown out of practice at some point during the year, haha.
by BBallSophist on Dec 28, 2008 8:59 PM EST up reply actions
I have heard this ...
… also. I have no concerns about intramural scuffles among team members, if that in fact did happen. It is part of a competitive nature, and it used to happen when I played all the time.
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by Glenn Logan on Dec 28, 2008 11:00 PM EST up reply actions
Prince And Bogans
Got into a fight during practice in 2002 season.
Both remained on the team.
by FortyYearCatFan on Dec 29, 2008 6:42 AM EST up reply actions

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