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Appalachian State @ Kentucky: Open Game Thread

Appalachian St. Mountaineers at Kentucky Wildcats, Dec 20, 2008 12:00 PM EST


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This is the official A Sea of Blue open game thread for the Appalachian State Mountaineers vs. Kentucky Wildcats basketball game at Freedom Hall in Louisville, Saturday @ 12:00 PM.

Particulars of this game are as follows:

Once again, UK finds itself matched up against a foe it aught to defeat easily.  Last year in their annual pilgrimage to the River City (at which, by the way, I was in attendance), the Wildcats blew a substantial lead to lose to the UAB Blazers, sparked by a dazzling show of 3-point shooting by Robert Vaden.

The Mountaineers bring in their own star in the form of big man Ike Butts.  Butts has had double-doubles in almost every game this year, so he is going to be option #1 on offense, and our post defense must rise to the challenge.  In addition, the Mountaineers like to run up and down the floor very much in the style of VMI, and we all know how we did against them.

Nevertheless, ASU is significantly smaller (outside of Butts) and less talented than Kentucky, as you would expect.  Despite the uneven performance last week against the Indiana Hoosiers, we have seen what can happen when Kentucky is intense and into the game.  A few minutes of that, and the Mountaineers could find themselves in the same kind of hole IU did, or worse.

Five things UK needs to do to win:

  1. Intensity.  If UK can raise their intensity to IU first half levels, the Mountaineers will collapse.
  2. Control the tempo.  UK wants the tempo high, but not as high as ASU.  The 'Cats need to control their urge to get into a track meet with this team.
  3. Get Patterson more looks.  I don't care how they do it, there is no excuse today.  ASU is not going to zone us, most likely, so Patterson should touch the ball a lot.
  4. Play under control.  Too many times, this team has gone into a weird kind of purposelessness on offense.
  5. Take care of the defensive glass.  ASU is an outstanding rebounding team on both ends.

Five things UK can do to lose:

  1. Start slow.  A slow start has hurt us every time we have had one.
  2. Too many threes.  We need to take some, but this team's bread is buttered inside the free throw line.
  3. Fail to get the ball into the lane.  Our guards have been very inconsistent at putting pressure on teams by getting into the lane.
  4. Allow open three pointers.  ASU is not a great 3-point shooting team, but teams can get hot from out there.  Just ask Miami.
  5. Relax.  UK can't afford to relax.  Ever.

This is another game UK should win convincingly.  The Mountaineers aren't bad, but they lack the overall size and talent to be competitive with Kentucky over 40 minutes unless Kentucky just fails to fire.  Make no mistake, that is a possibility -- we have been unprepared to play a time or two this year, and it has hurt us.

But I don't expect that.  This team is beginning to show some signs of maturity and increasing confidence, and that is the team I expect to see in The Hall today.

Go 'Cats!

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Go Cats!!!

Anybody here today?

Del Tha Funky Homosapien
formerly known as senowen

by Mr. Bob Dobalina on Dec 20, 2008 12:09 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Here

but can’t watch the game, just radio.

by GoLightning on Dec 20, 2008 12:10 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Always around ... :-)

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by Truzenzuzex on Dec 20, 2008 12:11 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I'm one of the lucky ones

with ESPN360

Del Tha Funky Homosapien
formerly known as senowen

by Mr. Bob Dobalina on Dec 20, 2008 12:12 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Got to hit that Stevenson

Del Tha Funky Homosapien
formerly known as senowen

by Mr. Bob Dobalina on Dec 20, 2008 12:13 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Passing looks crisp so far

Del Tha Funky Homosapien
formerly known as senowen

by Mr. Bob Dobalina on Dec 20, 2008 12:14 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

No slow starts today!

Galloway looking really good.

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by Truzenzuzex on Dec 20, 2008 12:16 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Looks much more mature that in past games

Del Tha Funky Homosapien
formerly known as senowen

by Mr. Bob Dobalina on Dec 20, 2008 12:17 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

18k?

Something like that.

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by Truzenzuzex on Dec 20, 2008 12:18 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Good defense!

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by Truzenzuzex on Dec 20, 2008 12:19 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

We can get the 3 anytime ...

… Why are we shooting it so early in the clock?

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by Truzenzuzex on Dec 20, 2008 12:25 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I dont even have radio today.

Im at work.

Keep me posted.

DEEETROIT BASKETBALLL!!!

by davw83 on Dec 20, 2008 12:25 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

UK 14 - ASU 7

Del Tha Funky Homosapien
formerly known as senowen

by Mr. Bob Dobalina on Dec 20, 2008 12:27 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I think it's 14-7 UK right now

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by Truzenzuzex on Dec 20, 2008 12:27 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Not sure

I didn’t even know what you were talking about and had to look it up

Del Tha Funky Homosapien
formerly known as senowen

by Mr. Bob Dobalina on Dec 20, 2008 12:35 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Don't know about that foul call

Del Tha Funky Homosapien
formerly known as senowen

by Mr. Bob Dobalina on Dec 20, 2008 12:30 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

but I'll take it

Del Tha Funky Homosapien
formerly known as senowen

by Mr. Bob Dobalina on Dec 20, 2008 12:30 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Early AJ

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by Truzenzuzex on Dec 20, 2008 12:31 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Billy G

said that AJ has been coming on like gang busters in practice. Exact words.

DEEETROIT BASKETBALLL!!!

by davw83 on Dec 20, 2008 12:33 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Stevenson's seconld foul already?

Del Tha Funky Homosapien
formerly known as senowen

by Mr. Bob Dobalina on Dec 20, 2008 12:32 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Much more patient now

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by Truzenzuzex on Dec 20, 2008 12:32 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Nice pass by Porter

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by Truzenzuzex on Dec 20, 2008 12:34 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Thanks

DEEETROIT BASKETBALLL!!!

by davw83 on Dec 20, 2008 12:35 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Much better on offense

Good job getting it in to Pat.

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by Truzenzuzex on Dec 20, 2008 12:36 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Back door cuts...

… Need to work on that.

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by Truzenzuzex on Dec 20, 2008 12:37 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Turnovers: UK 1 - ASU 7

Del Tha Funky Homosapien
formerly known as senowen

by Mr. Bob Dobalina on Dec 20, 2008 12:37 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Porter is playing well

Making some really good passes out there and playing good defense

by BBallSophist on Dec 20, 2008 12:38 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

He is..

… Indeed. Very solid on defense and taking good care of the ball.

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by Truzenzuzex on Dec 20, 2008 12:39 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

29-11

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by Truzenzuzex on Dec 20, 2008 12:38 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Gametracker

Never left preview for me

by GoLightning on Dec 20, 2008 12:40 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

AJ Stewart...

…he has a really nice baseline jumper.

by BBallSophist on Dec 20, 2008 12:41 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

AN!

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by Truzenzuzex on Dec 20, 2008 12:41 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I meant AJ!

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by Truzenzuzex on Dec 20, 2008 12:44 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Pat ...

… Cost Liggins an assist.

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by Truzenzuzex on Dec 20, 2008 12:43 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

two nice starts....

on 2 straight Saturdays………i am seeing alot of improvement

by teambeam on Dec 20, 2008 12:45 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Good d by Pat 35-17

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by Truzenzuzex on Dec 20, 2008 12:47 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Meeks...

…loves the nets in Freedom Hall

by BBallSophist on Dec 20, 2008 12:49 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

40-17! Meeks with 20

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by Truzenzuzex on Dec 20, 2008 12:49 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Meeks shooting lights out

Del Tha Funky Homosapien
formerly known as senowen

by Mr. Bob Dobalina on Dec 20, 2008 12:50 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

LOL

Meeks was bailed out on that one. Good steal, though.

by BBallSophist on Dec 20, 2008 12:50 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

This ...

… Is good Kentucky basketball,

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by Truzenzuzex on Dec 20, 2008 12:51 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Everyone is playing well...

Patterson has missed some he should’ve hit, but other than that it’s hard to criticize anyone

by BBallSophist on Dec 20, 2008 12:57 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Patterson seems a bit off so far today

Shooting too quick maybe?

Del Tha Funky Homosapien
formerly known as senowen

by Mr. Bob Dobalina on Dec 20, 2008 12:56 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

The big guy he is playing against is pretty decent...

He’s doing a good job against Patterson, and it’s not due to a lack of effort on Patterson’s part.

by BBallSophist on Dec 20, 2008 12:58 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

His working hard, don't get me wrong

Just seems like his shot is off

Del Tha Funky Homosapien
formerly known as senowen

by Mr. Bob Dobalina on Dec 20, 2008 12:59 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

any word on Harrellson..???

Steelers fan 1st! UK is my 2nd love.

by vinceuk1 on Dec 20, 2008 1:04 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Ah,

..what a lovely first half of basketball by our boys. : )

by BigSkyCat on Dec 20, 2008 1:05 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Can we please ...

Have two good halves back-to-back??

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by Truzenzuzex on Dec 20, 2008 1:05 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Who you asking...Santa?

Del Tha Funky Homosapien
formerly known as senowen

by Mr. Bob Dobalina on Dec 20, 2008 1:08 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I guess...

we’ll find out soon enough if Tru has been an extra good boy this year.

Hmmm, will Santa give him what he wants??? ; )

by BigSkyCat on Dec 20, 2008 1:11 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

The score:

Jodie Meeks: 24 – Appalachian State: 21

by BBallSophist on Dec 20, 2008 1:06 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Oh, I know...

….I think this is like the second time this year he has outscored the opponent at the half. Ridiculous, I love it!

by BigSkyCat on Dec 20, 2008 1:09 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

watch online

anybody have a link other than ESPN360 ?

by vegaskat on Dec 20, 2008 1:07 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Congrats to App St.

For besting IU’s halftime score.

by GoLightning on Dec 20, 2008 1:08 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Nice

Tuned in late, but Porter was looking really good on offense – that’s great to see. Great D by all, and JODIE IS BACK, BABY!

by EEWildcat on Dec 20, 2008 1:08 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Meeks

Great recruit for UK in 2006 class. Florida really wanted him.

by FortyYearCatFan on Dec 20, 2008 1:09 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

that being said...

…when are we gonna’ start hearing about Meeks on a national level…???

All we ever hear about is Patterson… It’s about time Meeks gets his due…

just asking

Steelers fan 1st! UK is my 2nd love.

by vinceuk1 on Dec 20, 2008 1:10 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

He's a great catch and shoot guy

But has limited ability to make his own shot and is not very tall. I just can’t see him as a lottery pick. But could make an NBA squad as a niche off the bench shooter.

Del Tha Funky Homosapien
formerly known as senowen

by Mr. Bob Dobalina on Dec 20, 2008 1:15 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Meeks

He isnt short for his position just of average height. He has the physical tools to do the job at the next level and while he doesnt drive to the hoop all the much he can get that mid range jumper off on his own anytime he wants. IF his game continues to progress I see him as a mid to late first round pick. As far as national attention he hardly played last season and only averaged 8 ppg his freshman year. We at UK knew he would be a scorer but I dont think anyone saw him averaging more than 20ppg. He will garner some attention next season.

DEEETROIT BASKETBALLL!!!

by davw83 on Dec 20, 2008 1:27 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

That class was very good, IMHO

Great college players: Meeks, Jasper, Stevenson, and Porter as a 2.

by EEWildcat on Dec 20, 2008 1:11 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Add Harris

He is also junior at UK.

by FortyYearCatFan on Dec 20, 2008 1:13 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

My bad

I always forget mid-year joiner Harris! Another good 4-year player and lockdown D.

by EEWildcat on Dec 20, 2008 1:19 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Sweet Reverse!

 Where have you been all this time AJ?

by EEWildcat on Dec 20, 2008 1:24 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Jorts not looking as good

Lackluster effort. Definitely see why AJ is playing over him today.

by EEWildcat on Dec 20, 2008 1:27 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Harrellson is struggling...

… But Stewart is incredible

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by Truzenzuzex on Dec 20, 2008 1:28 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Carter just can't make anything.

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by Truzenzuzex on Dec 20, 2008 1:29 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

That was nice, PPat

C! A! T! S! CATS! CATS! CATS!

by NYCCats on Dec 20, 2008 1:31 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Galloway loves pushing the ball...

…such a good passer. Just a great instinct for where to put the ball

by BBallSophist on Dec 20, 2008 1:32 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Getting better now.

Get the ball inside.

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by Truzenzuzex on Dec 20, 2008 1:33 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

68-38 YK

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by Truzenzuzex on Dec 20, 2008 1:35 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Perry Stevenson!

For 3!!

C! A! T! S! CATS! CATS! CATS!

by NYCCats on Dec 20, 2008 1:36 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Stevenson ...

… For 3???

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by Truzenzuzex on Dec 20, 2008 1:36 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

He’s good in the really high post.

C! A! T! S! CATS! CATS! CATS!

by NYCCats on Dec 20, 2008 1:37 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Heh.

The really high post! :-)

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by Truzenzuzex on Dec 20, 2008 1:39 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Surprised

I"m surprised we havent seen him take that shot more this season. Coach said he had been working on it in the off season.

DEEETROIT BASKETBALLL!!!

by davw83 on Dec 20, 2008 1:40 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Pretty pass by Liggins

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by Truzenzuzex on Dec 20, 2008 1:40 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

74-40 UK

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by Truzenzuzex on Dec 20, 2008 1:41 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

PPat's just outworking everyone

C! A! T! S! CATS! CATS! CATS!

by NYCCats on Dec 20, 2008 1:44 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

We're

getting very sloppy, and no one can finish.

by blbskue on Dec 20, 2008 1:45 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Lazy play

Just sloppy, lazy crap the last couple of minutes. Guess it happens when you’re up 30+

by BBallSophist on Dec 20, 2008 1:46 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Finess check...

… And Pat has had enough of the track meet. :-)

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by Truzenzuzex on Dec 20, 2008 1:47 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Meeks

is getting dangerously close to the Freedom Hall scoring record.

by blbskue on Dec 20, 2008 1:50 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Meeks ...

… Pretty pass!

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by Truzenzuzex on Dec 20, 2008 1:51 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

UK may not handle well...

… But we sure do pass it well.

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by Truzenzuzex on Dec 20, 2008 1:52 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

WOW

I cant wait to get home and watch this on DVR later.

DEEETROIT BASKETBALLL!!!

by davw83 on Dec 20, 2008 1:53 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Threedom Hall...

… Is rocking!

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by Truzenzuzex on Dec 20, 2008 1:53 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Holy crap

46 freaking points

by BBallSophist on Dec 20, 2008 1:54 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

91-59 UK

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by Truzenzuzex on Dec 20, 2008 1:56 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Callin' off the dogs...

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by Truzenzuzex on Dec 20, 2008 2:02 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Good time

for meeks to go cold, now that the game is in hand. 8’) Great game Jodie Meeks!

by EEWildcat on Dec 20, 2008 2:06 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Great job by Meeks

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by Truzenzuzex on Dec 20, 2008 2:06 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

That how it's supposed to be...

…when UK plays this caliber team (no offense to them, they played hard). All the games up to UofL should go like this. Great play, great effort. The periods of faltering are getting fewer and fewer.

by EEWildcat on Dec 20, 2008 2:08 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

The post mortem ...

… will come in a little while. I’m watching me some U of L-Minnesota.

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by Truzenzuzex on Dec 20, 2008 2:13 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

We should have

a game thread for that one!

Minnesota up 9-6.

by blbskue on Dec 20, 2008 2:18 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

And

There are NO fans at that game. That place is empty.

by blbskue on Dec 20, 2008 2:18 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I went to the game Thursday....

and Ole Miss should of, or coulda, won…btw Miss. St. has a long way to go, at least I thought so

by teambeam on Dec 20, 2008 2:22 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

also....

Earl Clark had 17 of UL’s first 21 on Thursday

by teambeam on Dec 20, 2008 2:23 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

What channel?

What channel is it on for you guys? I couldn’t find it… Looks like Tubby is winning – go Tubby!

by EEWildcat on Dec 20, 2008 2:36 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Xavier/Duke

Wow – Duke is pounding Xavier 46 to 18, with 3 minutes left in the first half.

by blbskue on Dec 20, 2008 2:45 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Xavier overated from the get go...

IMO

Steelers fan 1st! UK is my 2nd love.

by vinceuk1 on Dec 20, 2008 2:53 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

2 little things that many may overlook...

…The fact that Stevenson not only shot the open 3, but looked good doing it hitting 1 of 2…
Plus, Stewart starting to show more confidence in his offense…

Those two things will be BIG in the SEC…

Steelers fan 1st! UK is my 2nd love.

by vinceuk1 on Dec 20, 2008 3:01 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Actually

Stevenson was 1 of 3, but I agree that he looked pretty good on the shot. I’m not sure he needs to be doing it regularly, but the threat of it is enough to pull the D out to him on the perimeter and open up the middle more.

by blbskue on Dec 20, 2008 3:07 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Go Tubby!

Great to see Tubby having success in his new home! If he stays there 10 years I bet he’ll make a final four. Good coaching.

by EEWildcat on Dec 20, 2008 4:46 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Imagine ...

… the hair-pulling around here if he does get UM to a final four after he failed to do so with UK since 1998. :-)

To be fair, but for a couple of bounces and a ridiculously hot player, he would have done it here, too.

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by Truzenzuzex on Dec 20, 2008 6:22 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

FF In In 2010 Or 2011

The Gophers add lots of talent in their 2009 recruiting class and lose only 2 little used players from this year’s team.

I think FF in 2010 is possible and NC contender in 2011.

by FortyYearCatFan on Dec 20, 2008 6:30 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

UK

He had the players to do it here 2-3 times and the breaks just didnt come his way.

DEEETROIT BASKETBALLL!!!

by davw83 on Dec 22, 2008 5:29 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Breaks Are A Big Factor

UK caught breaks in 1975 (Scott May injury) and 1984 (Regional games in Rupp Arena) that helped them make FF, just like the 1958 team played its NCAA in Lexington (2) and Louisville (2) that year.

by FortyYearCatFan on Dec 22, 2008 7:04 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I did.

Smith has an excellent track record against Pitino, and giving him ten days to prepare and a leg-weary Cardinal team is a recipe for a Gopher victory.

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by Truzenzuzex on Dec 20, 2008 6:26 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Card fans very unhappy

As we would be if UK got upset.

Congrats to Tubby.

by kykat51 on Dec 20, 2008 4:28 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

UK wins, UofL loss

thank you Santa : )

by -Zoso- on Dec 20, 2008 4:28 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Simply put

…anyone finding negatives with this game is just looking for misery.

The best tip to horn performance by UK since Gillispie has been here? Maybe.

Obviously the stakes not as high as a UT or UF, but that first half was beautiful hoops.

The Heart & Mind of the Big Blue Nation ...

by JL Blue on Dec 20, 2008 4:37 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

It was.

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