Delaware State @ Kentucky: Open Game Thread
by Truzenzuzex on Nov 22, 2008 11:15 AM EST
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Delaware St. Hornets at Kentucky Wildcats, Nov 22, 2008 12:00 PM EST
This is the official A Sea of Blue Open Game Thread for the Delaware State Hornets vs. the Kentucky Wildcats in Rupp Arena at noon today. I'm opening up this thread 45 minutes early again today so we can prepare.
The 'Cats are sitting ugly at 0-2, and most of us in the Big Blue Nation would say we need this win, in the words of a song, "... like the water, like breath, like rain." More importantly, the Wildcats need to prove that they are capable of coming together afer two devastating losses by dealing with a team UK should be able to beat with their bench players.
In days gone by, teams like Delaware State would come out and see "K-E-N-T-U-C-K Y" on the chests of the Wildcats, the 24,000 blue-clad fans hanging from the rafters and immediately lose 5 points or more in composure and confidence. I hereby pronounce those days dead and gone, mostly at the hands of Gardener-Webb, VMI and other smaller teams demonstrating that Rupp Arena is no longer a place where opponents come to die. Those days may return, but for now, they are, in the words of yet another song, "... gone like a freight train, gone like yesterday ..."
Be that as it may, this is a game Kentucky should win easily. There is very little good that can happen from beating a team like Delaware State, but an awful lot of bad is hanging out there. Kentucky can win this game and still take an additional step backwards by not putting away this team efficiently. It's frustrating for many of us to have to live through games that are nearly no-win situations unless we blow them out by 30+, but that's what we have here this afternoon.
But it isn't all gloomy, despite my somewhat pessimistic assessment above. This is an opportunity for the 'Cats to demonstrate what they can do in the half-court for practically the first time all year. This is the first game that is not likely to be played at a ridiculous pace for which this team is, at this point, ill prepared. This is the first game we have played in which Patrick Patterson is likely to get a bunch of touches, and even though I have bemoaned the fact that his athleticism is not quite back to par, the same cannot be said for his understanding of the game and his outstanding post passing. Perry Stevenson is likely to dunk a dozen times today as Delaware State double-teams Patterson. That is a very good thing.
For more on the particulars of this game, see my pre-game analysis a post or two down.
If UK does the following five things well, this will be a positive game:
- Defend the three -- we have allowed opponents to shoot 47.7% against us from the arc. That is unforgiveable.
- Get the ball into the post -- When we do this, we almost always score.
- Play Kentucky defense -- Get up into Hornet jerseys and prove that the concept of defense has not completely fled this Kentucky team.
- Get turnovers under control -- At this point, anything under 20 turnovers would have to be considered a major improvement.
- Young players need to step up and make plays -- That means you, Darrius Miller, Josh Harrellson and DeAndere Liggins.
Five things Kentucky can do to jeopardize this game and take another step back:
- Allow open 3-point shots -- The three has killed us, and will kill us again if we continue doing what we have been doing.
- Allow offensive rebounding -- This team is so much smaller than us, any rebound they get should be an accident.
- Get out-hustled -- These UK players must prove that they are worthy of the name on the front of their chest, and getting out-hustled again would cast that into serious doubt.
- Take bad shots -- Bad shots are nearly 100% responsible for bad shooting. Jodie Meeks, this means you.
- Lack confidence -- I can't recall a Kentucky team playing with less confidence, ever, than this team over the last two games. If the name on the front of your chest and the 24,000 screaming Big Blue fans don't give you confidence, surrender your scholarship and play elsewhere.
As you can see, I am less than amused with our current situation. I believe, but along with the rest of the Big Blue Nation, I expect and deserve to see some success and good basketball around here, and by Rupp's Runts, I demand it. I wanna see some UK basketball, not this psuedo-high school crap we have had to endure in bitter misery for the last two games.
Your comments go below. Let's get this ship righted and start bailing out the water.
Go, Cats!
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i'm going to miss the game
but know that i will be completely distracted with the task at hand!
GO BIG BLUE!! GO BIG BLUE!!
by UKWildCatFanatic on Nov 22, 2008 11:58 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Maybe
Porter has something on Gillispie….
by kentuckygirl0724 on Nov 22, 2008 12:07 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Maybe
Gillispie threatened Porter??
by kentuckygirl0724 on Nov 22, 2008 12:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
This...
… is much better!
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by Truzenzuzex on Nov 22, 2008 12:13 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
can't see this game
listening, but you guys, please fill me in on things I won’t get by listening only.
by StillCatwoman on Nov 22, 2008 12:14 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Cats ...
… leading 7-2 now, much better defensive pressure and the offense is far better at this point.
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by Truzenzuzex on Nov 22, 2008 12:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah.
Not bad at all. It’s still early, and the intensity we have seen on defense is much better and very encouraging.
The touch fouls are a disappointment, but we have to adjust to how the game is played.
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by Truzenzuzex on Nov 22, 2008 1:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Is that the first charge
we’ve taken so far this year?
Del Tha Funky Homosapien
formerly known as senowen
by Mr. Bob Dobalina on Nov 22, 2008 12:16 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I think we took ...
… one or two against UNC.
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by Truzenzuzex on Nov 22, 2008 12:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well
that’s one way to ensure we see some more of Liggins. That’s three on Porter.
by Acdixon on Nov 22, 2008 12:19 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Dumb fouls or bum calls?
or both?
by StillCatwoman on Nov 22, 2008 12:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Except
BCG is so stubborn that he put in Miller
Del Tha Funky Homosapien
formerly known as senowen
by Mr. Bob Dobalina on Nov 22, 2008 12:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
We've finally found a team
that values the ball less than we do!
by Acdixon on Nov 22, 2008 12:21 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
haha! what a pass by Miller! i think it even surprised Patrick!
by ky1wildcats7 on Nov 22, 2008 12:23 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Meeks
is on fire. I can see the smoke.
Del Tha Funky Homosapien
formerly known as senowen
by Mr. Bob Dobalina on Nov 22, 2008 12:24 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
p-pat's hair
so did he really buzz off his hair?
by StillCatwoman on Nov 22, 2008 12:25 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
maybe the fro was bad luck
by kentuckygirl0724 on Nov 22, 2008 12:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hi everyone
Cats look like they are coming around
by String Music on Nov 22, 2008 12:26 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Deleware State
is clearly outmatched, but playing well should give us some confidence.
by Acdixon on Nov 22, 2008 12:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ahh ...
… This feels right.
I love how our defense is playing. Love it. It can get better, but it is very intense and in-your-face.
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by Truzenzuzex on Nov 22, 2008 12:27 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I'm much happier with the defense...
…but the offense still looks rough. It’s painfully apparent that no one in the starting lineup has a clue how to feed the post. Though to be fair, it’s difficult against a zone defense.
by BBallSophist on Nov 22, 2008 12:28 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
You need someone
who can dribble penetrate. Haven’t seen much of that from the Cats.
Del Tha Funky Homosapien
formerly known as senowen
by Mr. Bob Dobalina on Nov 22, 2008 12:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Miller ...
… has done it several times now, once for a foul and once for a pull up. Meeks did it once and drew the foul.
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by Truzenzuzex on Nov 22, 2008 12:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
Right after I said that they started trying to penetrate.
Del Tha Funky Homosapien
formerly known as senowen
by Mr. Bob Dobalina on Nov 22, 2008 12:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Miller...
playing well, but he looks hesitant to shoot from behind the line.
by BBallSophist on Nov 22, 2008 12:36 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
He does.
But to be fair, some of the looks have been a bit marginal, where the defender was playing off him. Much better to dribble into range and make a comfortable shot if you aren’t spotted up and getting a pass in rhythm.
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by Truzenzuzex on Nov 22, 2008 12:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
These touch foul calls
are killing me.
Del Tha Funky Homosapien
formerly known as senowen
by Mr. Bob Dobalina on Nov 22, 2008 12:42 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Maybe
the refs want to see our bench guys too! :)
by Acdixon on Nov 22, 2008 12:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The 20 man
roster might be needed today :)
by String Music on Nov 22, 2008 12:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Does it look like Patterson is sleepwalking to anyone else?
He really looks uninspired to me. Am I going nuts?
by BBallSophist on Nov 22, 2008 12:46 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Patterson ...
… is not posting up strong.
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by Truzenzuzex on Nov 22, 2008 12:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He didn't appear to be playing tough on D either...
…nor is he hitting the boards. He has 2 rebounds.
by BBallSophist on Nov 22, 2008 12:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Gotten ...
… into a bit of a frenzy of bad shots here.
We need to get more in to Patterson, although he could be posting up much stronger than he is.
Miller is playing a very nice game.
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by Truzenzuzex on Nov 22, 2008 12:47 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I still believe Patterson is not in game form yet.
He’s gonna need some time to get back in the shape we knew and loved last year. Surgery does that to you I hear.
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by hoopchi on Nov 22, 2008 12:48 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I agree.
It will take a bit of time, and I think that is going to show up as inconsistency, which is what we are seeing right now.
Hopefully, he will be back to himself in the second half.
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by Truzenzuzex on Nov 22, 2008 1:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well
We started the half very strong. Finished the half not so much.
Del Tha Funky Homosapien
formerly known as senowen
by Mr. Bob Dobalina on Nov 22, 2008 12:57 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Well ...
… this is much better, but we still have allowed entirely too many rebounds to D. St., and have not done enough on the offensive glass.
Patterson seems to be taking this game off or something. He is not doing the things we have come to expect from him. Perhaps that haircut makes him feel too light or something.
Perry Stevenson has had precious few minutes in the first half, and Liggins has also been limited. Miller is just having an incredible game in every aspect. Nice comeback after that bad game at UNC.
The ’Cats are still forcing it on offense. They seem almost desperate to score. They need to relax, move the ball, and make good passes. A lack of patience is killing our offense.
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by Truzenzuzex on Nov 22, 2008 12:58 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
A lack of patience
is killing us all.
by kentuckygirl0724 on Nov 22, 2008 1:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Heh.
Yeah, pretty much.
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by Truzenzuzex on Nov 22, 2008 1:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Meeks
is having a good game so far. Not ball hogging, but taking the open shots that he should be taking. Made a few good passes, got a few steals. Man he is fast.
Del Tha Funky Homosapien
formerly known as senowen
by Mr. Bob Dobalina on Nov 22, 2008 1:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Attendence ...
… is a bit of a disappointment this game.
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by Truzenzuzex on Nov 22, 2008 1:04 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
They need to
hurry up and be patient
by String Music on Nov 22, 2008 1:04 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Just got home and of course FSS isn't carrying the game in Alabama. Is there
anywhere I can watch the rest of the game online without subscribing to some service?
by bluegrassgal on Nov 22, 2008 1:08 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
If you have high speed internet
you can watch on ESPN360
Del Tha Funky Homosapien
formerly known as senowen
by Mr. Bob Dobalina on Nov 22, 2008 1:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
only if ...
“ESPN360.com is available at no charge to fans who receive their high-speed internet connection from an ESPN360.com affiliated internet service provider. ESPN360.com is also available to fans that access the internet from U.S. college campuses and U.S. military bases.”
apparently this doesn’t mean Sprint service. It never works for me; I always get the message saying my ISP doesn’t fit the profile
by StillCatwoman on Nov 22, 2008 1:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
First time
I was ever glad to have Verizon
Del Tha Funky Homosapien
formerly known as senowen
by Mr. Bob Dobalina on Nov 22, 2008 1:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Miler
Is gonna be a player..! This kid has all the makings of a great 4-year player…
Steelers fan 1st! UK is my 2nd love.
by vinceuk1 on Nov 22, 2008 1:09 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Still no Galloway...
And that deeply concerns me… ???
Steelers fan 1st! UK is my 2nd love.
by vinceuk1 on Nov 22, 2008 1:12 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I think Patterson
Will be back 100% by the time SEC play starts or sooner. Surgery just takes a lot from the human constitution.
by kykat51 on Nov 22, 2008 1:12 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Probably.
He just looks a step slow. But this game, it’s not only that, he’s just flat. It happens to everyone.
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by Truzenzuzex on Nov 22, 2008 1:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Galloway
Is still not perfoming in practice per Coach’s conference yesterday
by kykat51 on Nov 22, 2008 1:14 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Patterson looks bad.
Being outplayed by Dubois.
by BBallSophist on Nov 22, 2008 1:19 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Dubois ...
… is getting away with offensive fouls.
The refs have got to be consistent.
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by Truzenzuzex on Nov 22, 2008 1:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
UK has come out playing Deleware State's style...
Time to pick it up boys…
Steelers fan 1st! UK is my 2nd love.
by vinceuk1 on Nov 22, 2008 1:20 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Tru
Are you going to the Scott Padgett signing tomorrow?
by kentuckygirl0724 on Nov 22, 2008 1:22 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Nah ...
… I don’t think I’m gonna have time.
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by Truzenzuzex on Nov 22, 2008 1:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
There is no way
Coach has any fingernails lol
by kykat51 on Nov 22, 2008 1:31 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Miller is a passin' fool... lol
Steelers fan 1st! UK is my 2nd love.
by vinceuk1 on Nov 22, 2008 1:35 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
This is just ...
… way better. Way.
I love what we are seeing from Liggins. That assist to Patterson was textbook Liggins.
Michael Porter has had a very good game as well. Miller is just having a bonanza.
Galloway is finally in the game.
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by Truzenzuzex on Nov 22, 2008 1:40 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
FINALLY.....
It’s Galloway
Steelers fan 1st! UK is my 2nd love.
by vinceuk1 on Nov 22, 2008 1:42 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I'm confussed...
Galloway was in for 30 secs… WTF
Steelers fan 1st! UK is my 2nd love.
by vinceuk1 on Nov 22, 2008 1:43 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Not ready yet.
He just isn’t doing what coach wants.
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by Truzenzuzex on Nov 22, 2008 1:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
How can you tell that in 30secs..???
Steelers fan 1st! UK is my 2nd love.
by vinceuk1 on Nov 22, 2008 1:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
not for long....
galloway in the doghouse
by StillCatwoman on Nov 22, 2008 1:43 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Galloway
I dont think he realized he was actually in the game ;)
by kentuckygirl0724 on Nov 22, 2008 1:45 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Miller gonna' push for that starting spot....
Steelers fan 1st! UK is my 2nd love.
by vinceuk1 on Nov 22, 2008 1:47 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
hey someone had the opportunity for a 4 pt. play
who was it? and did they make the free throw?
by StillCatwoman on Nov 22, 2008 1:48 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
cool
so wonder if this will earn him a start?
by StillCatwoman on Nov 22, 2008 1:51 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Nice to see
More players in the game…2nd team is looking good!
by kykat51 on Nov 22, 2008 1:52 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I am seeing
A much better team effort from these guys
by kykat51 on Nov 22, 2008 1:53 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Dubois
working his arse off..!
Steelers fan 1st! UK is my 2nd love.
by vinceuk1 on Nov 22, 2008 1:55 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Gillispie's 8 Are
F Harris, Miller, Patterson, Stevenson
C Harrellson and G Meeks, Porter, Liggins
by FortyYearCatFan on Nov 22, 2008 1:56 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
3rd straight game... lol
wait a minute, that’s not funny… They played really hard today, especially Dubois
Steelers fan 1st! UK is my 2nd love.
by vinceuk1 on Nov 22, 2008 2:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
not to be too sappy ....
but since we have a win, and we are all feeling good, now seems like a good time to mention how much I value you guys. I am stuck in Gator County, and ya’ll are my Ky. connection. I found this site after my Dad died … a super UK fan. He and I would talk long distance before, during and after every game, and I could bounce ideas and questions off of him. You all fill a very special place in my life. (that either sounds sweet or sappy-sad!)
But thanks for being out there!
by StillCatwoman on Nov 22, 2008 2:00 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I completely understand Catwoman
I lost my Dad in ’98, and my Mom and hubby in 2003. I know how you feel. I think most of us will be here for a while or I least I hope so.
by kykat51 on Nov 22, 2008 2:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i gotta pay more attention
KyKat51, I thought tinkerbell and I were the only females who hang out here. Glad to ‘meet’ you! Strange the things in life that bring us all together.
by StillCatwoman on Nov 22, 2008 2:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Glad to meet you too!
There are more females here on this site.
by kykat51 on Nov 22, 2008 2:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Definitely welcome.
I understand how hard it is to be separated from basketball, having suffered at the hands of naval deployment in my youth.
We are glad to have you with us.
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by Truzenzuzex on Nov 22, 2008 2:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I am feeling good
Though I know this team was no where waht we will face in the SEC
by kykat51 on Nov 22, 2008 2:01 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I'm feeling ...
… much better myself! :-)
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by Truzenzuzex on Nov 22, 2008 2:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
rebounds...
8 players had between 2-4 rebounds… now that is TEAM effort…
Although, Patterson & Stevenson should be getting more, still a nice effort…
Miller is the real deal
Liggins showed he could score as well
Patterson still a step or two slow
Porter played MUCH better today
Stevensao was steady, nothing flashy
Harris..? I thought he was wearing the man he was guarding shirt at times.. lol
Meeks is Meeks… He will lead the SEC in scoring…
All in all, I see some very positive signs
Steelers fan 1st! UK is my 2nd love.
by vinceuk1 on Nov 22, 2008 2:09 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Harrellson
I am not at all impressed with Harrellson at this point.
by kentuckygirl0724 on Nov 22, 2008 2:10 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
he just needs some playing time...
The speed is what is killing him now, but he’ll get it…
the guy can score once he gets the ball…
Steelers fan 1st! UK is my 2nd love.
by vinceuk1 on Nov 22, 2008 2:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'll be sappy too! Stuck here in northern Alabama, I miss Ky so much so I sure
enjoying chatting with you "cats"during the games. Thanks for everything.
by bluegrassgal on Nov 22, 2008 2:10 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
another female cat fan online!
Hi, Bluegrass gal. Are you near Tuscumbia? I was born there… but I got to Kentucky as fast as I could!
by StillCatwoman on Nov 22, 2008 2:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I feel for ya bluegrassgal
I have never had to leave this great state. I cannot imagine what you have to endure doing basketball season. Hang in there as this site will always be here…per our excellent Truz.
by kykat51 on Nov 22, 2008 2:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Some "football" updates....
Tenn—20
Vandy—0
WVU—21
’Ville—14
Steelers fan 1st! UK is my 2nd love.
by vinceuk1 on Nov 22, 2008 2:13 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Vandy
Met some Vandy fans at the UK/Vandy football game and we made a pact that we would each have our respective teams “whoop up” on Tennessee when we faced off. They better hold up their end!
by kentuckygirl0724 on Nov 22, 2008 2:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
update...
WVU—28
’ville—14
Louisville needs this one or their Bowls chances are over…
Steelers fan 1st! UK is my 2nd love.
by vinceuk1 on Nov 22, 2008 2:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ah come one Tink...
My grandson is a Cards fan lol. Root for the state of Ky.
I think because his high school colors are same as the Cards and their mascot the same ;-)
by kykat51 on Nov 22, 2008 2:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Heh.
I would much rather face a happy UT team next week than one who just lost to a cross-state, bitter rival who they well and truly hate.
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by Truzenzuzex on Nov 22, 2008 2:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Listening to WVLK 590am...
You would think UK lost the damn game..!!!
Gloom, gloom, gloom… it’s ridiculous….
Steelers fan 1st! UK is my 2nd love.
by vinceuk1 on Nov 22, 2008 2:16 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
That's ok....
We’ll show ’em!
by kentuckygirl0724 on Nov 22, 2008 2:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Really?
Psycho.
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by Truzenzuzex on Nov 22, 2008 2:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Larry Glover quote
“I feel worse about the team after this game then I did after the UNC game”…
Steelers fan 1st! UK is my 2nd love.
by vinceuk1 on Nov 22, 2008 2:38 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
As I said ...
… psycho.
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