BRIGHT SPOTS FROM THE NORTH CAROLINA GAME (or am I smoking something?)
[Editor's note: This has been promoted from the diaries to the front page, and I am sorry I didn't do it sooner. I have just been swamped.]
Unfortunately for me, performance obligations kept me from being able to watch the game last night (some of you may say that’s a blessing), but in trying to reconstruct the game from the tools available via the internet, it seems to me the game reflects several positives. I would appreciate it if those of you who did watch the game could tell me why I should not take heart from the following factors, each of which appears to be an accurate observation of what happened.
1. We out-rebounded the Number 1 team in the country in their home arena.
2. We had 7 different guys block a total of 10 shots on a very tall and athletic No.1 team.
3. We got to the free throw line, and hit shots when we did (almost 80%!).
4. From inside the 3-pt. line we hit 52%, and held them to 38.6%.
And now perhaps the most important overall statistical observation: the game transcript I reviewed showed two distinct games.
GAME 1: This game was played over the first 8:30 minutes of the clock, and North Carolina won this game by a score of 25-6.
GAME 2: This game was played out over the last 31:30 minutes of the clock, and was actually played to a 52-52 tie.
Am I insane to take solace from this observation? That over thirty-one and a half minutes of basketball against the Number 1 team in the country on their home court we played them to a tie? (Technically, we "won" the last 21:40 minutes of the game, but that may be straining at the gnat.)
This is what the game tape suggests – that after coming out shell-shocked and getting pasted over the first 8:26, we made corrections and found answers to match everything they tried. And this is a UNC team favored to win the National Championship, playing them early in the year on their home court. (The numbers make it look as though they didn’t miss Ginyard and Hansbrough at all, by the way.)
Media stories suggest that a blistering halftime lecture by BCG woke the boys up, but actually it looks like it happened with 11:34 left in the first half. What we did over that next 11:34 was outscore them 19-16 on their own court.
If we had made up 15 or 20 points during the garbage minutes of the game to pull the score closer, then I might not see any reason for optimism. But as I noted above, we actually outscored them in the last eleven and a half minutes of the first half, when I know they weren’t trying to relax. Then we played a decent second half (keyed by DeAndre's improved play) and lost that half by only three points. That’s thirty-one and a half minutes of what would appear to have been not-too-bad basketball against a real good team.
It doesn’t look like Roy Williams ever put a true B Team in the game. Every man but one of the nine men who played for UNC played at least 11 minutes (and the other guy played seven minutes), so it looks to me as though we rallied consistently against their A Team for better than three quarters of the game.
Hey, the eight and a half minutes of GAME 1 were horrendous (25-6), but it’s starting to look pretty obvious what we need to work on. We’re giving the ball away (particularly against pressure – 28 turnovers, 53 total in the last two games), and being badly out-played from behind the three-point line (we shoot poorly there, and do not defend the shot well). Jodie (6), Ramon (6), and Darius (5) had 17 of those 28 turnovers, and DeAndre and Michael added 4 apiece.
These are egregious problems, yes, but fix them, and the things we are already doing right will carry us, whether the opponent is VMI or UNC.
Or is there some Peyote in the numbers?
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Thank you, thank you, thank you..!
For making me feel a little better now then I did 5 minutes ago… All you points are well taken, but Billy is a stubborn coach and I’m afraid he will not change the way he “starts” the games… IMHO
Steelers fan 1st! UK is my 2nd love.
by vinceuk1 on Nov 19, 2008 12:00 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Good Analysis
UK needs to be ready to play those first 8:30 minutes every night.
by FortyYearCatFan on Nov 19, 2008 12:04 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
What is causing the lax play to start games?
We can’t blame it on Coury anymore. Why does it take a few slaps across the face to get us to wake up?
by Ken Pomeroy on Nov 19, 2008 1:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
No Idea
I don’t get paid $2.3 million to know. He does. I hope he figures it out.
by FortyYearCatFan on Nov 19, 2008 1:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Sometimes numbers lie
I’m not saying that the numbers definitely lie here. But, one thing the numbers cannot show is how hard each team was playing. From my perspective, at least, it appeared that the UNC players noticeably eased up during the second half. They were just not playing with the same intensity as the first half, but still outscored us. To me, that is worse part of the game; i.e., that we were beaten by 3 points in the second half by a team that wasn’t playing at 100% intensity, and was without 2 of their best players. Just a sad, sad effort by the mildcats.
Del Tha Funky Homosapien
formerly known as senowen
by Mr. Bob Dobalina on Nov 19, 2008 12:09 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Well, as I say, I wasn't able to watch the game.
What you say is certainly possible. I hope that’s not the truth of it, and I can’t say I’ve seen Roy’s teams play that way. Occasionally his teams play the way we did last night — getting spooked out of the gate, then settling down (sometimes too late).
by Ken Pomeroy on Nov 19, 2008 1:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think we played better in the second half
Do you really believe ’ol Roy who left his starters in during the 150-95 bloodbath in Lawrence would have his team back off? I think not. They were still trying to trap and playing tough defense throughout.
by FrostyCat on Nov 19, 2008 2:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hmm
I don’t think Roy wanted them to back off. I just think after the initial excitement of the start of the game the players let off the throttle a bit.
Del Tha Funky Homosapien
formerly known as senowen
by Mr. Bob Dobalina on Nov 19, 2008 5:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I concur
There was a noticeable difference in North Carolina’s intensity in the second half. However, anytime Kentucky had a run, North Carolina was able to squash it quickly.
by TheFakeGimelMartinez on Nov 19, 2008 2:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly
They let up on the intensity, but still outscored UK by 3 in the second half. That’s not a good sign.
Del Tha Funky Homosapien
formerly known as senowen
by Mr. Bob Dobalina on Nov 19, 2008 5:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I Agree
Statistics don’t play the game; players do. UNC’s players whipped our guys in the first 10 minutes. They attacked our guards and played the passing lanes, which forced turnovers. They went up by 20. As Roy Williams said, UNC “meandered” after that. Yeah, we played hard, and we cut it down to 13 near the end of the game, but every time we surged a little, they immediately shut us down and scored 4-6 points.
Their players whipped our players at all the critical junctures in the game. VMI’s players also whipped out players at all the critical junctures of the game.
We have tough players and a stubborn coach. We’ll win at least 15 games this year.
by Fortunatus on Nov 19, 2008 10:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well ...
… in all honesty, I think you have correctly identified most of the positives.
Besides turnovers, the biggest negative was that we allowed far too many offensive rebounds. UNC had 16 offensive rebounds which led to I believe Gillispie said 18 points. That mitigates our rebounding advantage, obviously.
But truth be told, the team played a pretty good second half. Maybe the end of the first half was better than it looked, but visually, Kentucky had 6 turnovers in the last 7:35, which may have made any defensive improvement look trivial.
A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan
by Truzenzuzex on Nov 19, 2008 12:09 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Six turnovers in the last 7:35.
That must have been our GOOD stretch. (Heh, heh…)
by Ken Pomeroy on Nov 19, 2008 1:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Biggest Positive
The game is over.
by FortyYearCatFan on Nov 19, 2008 12:22 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
haha
Well played, 40YOCF.
by TheFakeGimelMartinez on Nov 19, 2008 2:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
omg, 40 made a joke
and it was funny.
by blue kentucky girl on Nov 19, 2008 8:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That sound
was the BBN hitting the floor.
Changing how you think will change what you think.
by wilson452 on Nov 20, 2008 10:35 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Missing number
I think one of the numbers that you’re missing in your analysis is number of shot attempts – Carolina 70, UK 45. I’m all for trying to right the capsizing ship that is my confidence in this year’s team, but if the UK basketball fanbase is being relegated to moral victories, then we’ve got a serious problem.
The argument you’re making is similar to the UK football teams I grew up with – “If we didn’t have to play the fourth quarter, we’d have won!” How many times have I heard/said that? I really don’t want to have to start adopting that mentality to a basketball program that advertises itself as the best tradition and program in the country.
by Anything but Gatorade on Nov 19, 2008 12:26 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Their higher shot total
is a direct function of our hideous number of turnovers. Turnovers matter because they provide the opponent with an extra opportunity to take a shot, and that’s what UNC did.
We had 28 turnovers, and they took 25 more shots than we did. Hmmm.
I’m certainly not looking for moral victories, just some sense of whether the glimmer of hope that appears to be shining through the darkness seems to be justified based on what actually happened in a game I was unable to see.
by Ken Pomeroy on Nov 19, 2008 1:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Porter & Liggins
Both VMI and UNC attacked our starting point guard — Porter — right out of the box, and both forced turnovers and scored points. But when Porter was under attack, none of the other players — Harris, Stephenson, Patterson (his highness), Meeks (the prince) — came to Porter’s rescue. When Liggins was in the game, his teammates deserted him also. As a result we couldn’t get the ball up the court and over the center line successfully.
Most of the blogs — and coach G — have framed this issue as Porter v. Liggins. I see this situation as Porter & Liggins, LLC. With Patterson, Stephenson and Meeks as junior partners. Neither Porter nor Liggins seem interested in scoring. But P, S & M like to score. So we get 2 guys getting off on feeding three. Harris — a great defensive player, wonderful hustler, and opportunist — would be better coming off the bench — like James Lee.
Right now, we need players in the game who can get the ball up the floor and over half court in the beginning of the game. So we don’t get down 15-2. And get us into some semblance of an offense. I think Liggins, Porter, Meeks, Patterson, Stephenson could do it.
by Fortunatus on Nov 19, 2008 10:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think ...
… that’s a very good point. Others have made it around, and I agree with them.
The problem is that the guys are not seeing the whole floor. They lose sight of the ball, and leave the offense initiator out there on an island to be trapped or hounded into a turnover. That’s nuts.
Basketball requires that you always have the big picture, and know where the ball is. Always. The minute you lose that, you are in danger of a turnover.
A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan
by Truzenzuzex on Nov 19, 2008 11:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
James Lee...
Good comparison. I knew Harris reminded me of a former player….. memories from those years are kinda foggy.
by hoboat33 on Nov 21, 2008 12:17 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If Porter is going to turn the ball over so much
couldnt we just see the freshman, Liggins, do it? I mean porter has been the thorn in my side for two straight years now!!! There were streches that we looked like a decent high school team with a supreme athlete on our team, then we would take a time out and come out looking like a decent college team. I know meeks was trying to get something going early, but PASS THE BALL TO PATTERSON! PERIOD! Every offensive set should go thru him. He was 8-8 till the end of the game. He should have been 12-20 or something along those lines.
by ashbergh on Nov 19, 2008 12:29 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Both (Liggins, Porter) Had 4 TO
Liggins had 7 assists, Porter had 4.
by FortyYearCatFan on Nov 19, 2008 12:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
what Liggins does offer..
is MUCH better rebounding and defense… Porter should be a “break” for Liggins when he’s tired and nothing more… Porter is a jr, so he’s had his chance… Let’s see what Liggins can do from the jump…
once again, just my opinion….
Steelers fan 1st! UK is my 2nd love.
by vinceuk1 on Nov 19, 2008 12:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Agree BUT
Porter was not the worst TO machine last night.
by FortyYearCatFan on Nov 19, 2008 1:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The Problem Is
Not Liggins or Porter. The problem is that the VMI coach and then Roy Williams watching the video tape of the VMI game, decided that the best way to take control of the game is to jump on Porter bringing the ball up the floor and then for everybody else to jump into the passing lanes. (Classic Pitino.)
At this point, Porter’s problem is who do I throw it to? Porter’s problem (and Gillispie’s) is that there is nobody there to catch a pass from Porter. Porter is not a natural point guard, but his current problems have less to do with his natural abilities, than with the basketball instincts of his teammates and coaches.
Right now — based on the videotape opposing coaches have seen so far — I would start Liggins & Porter to get the ball over the center line — with Meeks, Patterson & Stephenson.
Liggins & Porter could help Meeks calm down — they would pass it to him only when he had a good shot in front of him. With two passers and no shooter on the perimiter, Patterson might work harder to get open for a pass. Stephenson is just a blue collar player — he’s going to block shots, go to the board — whatever the situation.
With Liggins & Porter bringing the ball up and getting the offense started, Meeks could get good shots.
by Fortunatus on Nov 19, 2008 11:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
PRECISELY! I have made the same observation repeatedly myself.
Even last year at times there seemed to be no realization among the rest of the team that you have to make yourself available for a pass from the PG or we will have a turnover every time. Ramel’s assist to turnover ratio sucked last year, just as both MP’s and DL’s do this year.
One man cannot bring the ball up the floor against pressure by himself, and the proof is in the numbers — we are turning the ball over no matter WHO is in the PG slot, and both men are good ballhandlers. (I must admit that I did not see the UNC game, but it seems from your account that this is still the problem.)
by Ken Pomeroy on Nov 20, 2008 7:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That needed to be written
We will not face a better defense all year. Thats a great team and I have been suprised today at how negative everyone is. They were an 18 pt. favorite and could very well go undefeated this year. We held them without a basket for a good portion of the second half and had it down to 13 with the ball twice. Meeks did not shot well and we really don’t have another outside threat. Liggins, while still learing the offensive side, came of age last night with some some great defense on Lawson, probably their most talented player. We are not that good yet but anybody that didn’t think this team would be a work in progress was missled. We need a little perspective. I think BCG can build on what I saw in the second half.
by Slim Wagers on Nov 19, 2008 12:31 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
That's what I wanted to hear.
And certainly what I want to believe.
So we were an 18 point underdog and lost by 19? It’s just a shame we let them cover the spread in the first eight minutes.
by Ken Pomeroy on Nov 19, 2008 1:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Not the best
UNC is not the best D we will face this year. Louisville will bring better D. Don’t forget, last year UNC was maligned over how their defense was very pedestrian.
by wklawdog on Nov 19, 2008 3:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Negativity...
exists because of the lack of competitiveness, something that is, frankly, a bucket of cold water thrown on most Kentucky fans. No one likes it and it’s not going to get a warm, positive response.
by Anything but Gatorade on Nov 19, 2008 12:43 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Disagree
Negativity existed in the early 1960’s when Rupp’s team “struggled” by UK standards. And early 70’s and mid 80’s under Hall. Late 80’s under Sutton. And Most of 2K’s under Tubby.
Never helped, then or now.
by FortyYearCatFan on Nov 19, 2008 1:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Once Proud
This phase that ESPN has coined in the last few days really gets under my skin. We have a young and inexperienced team but WE ARE STILL PROUD to wear the Blue and White. Game Day is still a sort of holiday in the Big Blue Nation. Big Blue Basketball is still the major topic of discussion around diners, water coolers, etc in the Big Blue Nation. We are only one game away from the record that many though we would have at this point in the season.
Honestly, how many people TRULY thought UK would waltz into Chapel Hill and beat the Tar Heels. If the Big Blue Nation still wants to focus on a car wreck, then focus on the loss to VMI and get ready to cheer the CATS to victory on Saturday.
We need to show the nation that despite some early hardships, we are STILL PROUD and will ALWAYS BE PROUD to be part of the BIG BLUE NATION!
by champcat24 on Nov 19, 2008 12:51 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Thought this as well
Like Ken P, I missed much of the game due to other obligations. I came in with about 10 minutes on the clock. When I heard we were down 15-2 at one point, I thought, “Well, they haven’t really stretched it too much since then.” Slow starts are a big concern, obviously, but it does seem like something that can be fixed.
by Acdixon on Nov 19, 2008 1:02 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
LOVE TECHNOLOGY!
The damn Banner Ad Bots always help to rub it in when we loose and rack up 1000 posts in a night.
NO I DO NOT WANT TO BUY A TAR HEEL SHIRT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Changing how you think will change what you think.
by wilson452 on Nov 19, 2008 1:16 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
BREAKING NEWS
Tyler Zeller out the rest of the season with multiple fractures in his left wrist…
For all the jokes and bitching and gripping, this is something I personally HATE to see…
Here’s hoping Tyler heels up quickly!!!
Steelers fan 1st! UK is my 2nd love.
by vinceuk1 on Nov 19, 2008 2:05 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Obviously, I meant "heals".. sorry, nothing meant by it....
Steelers fan 1st! UK is my 2nd love.
by vinceuk1 on Nov 19, 2008 2:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I hate that for him
He chose the wrong shade of blue, but I hate to see a kid injured so early in the year.
Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."
by chirop1 on Nov 19, 2008 2:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Saw that as well.
Didn’t look like a hard foul on the replay, just an awkward fall. Nothing but the best to him. Hope this doesn’t come back on Ramon or UK somehow. You know, besides the incessant griping of Tarheel fans who acted like Razor mugged him. Brought back memories of “What’s he doin’ to Wojo?” (shudders)
by Acdixon on Nov 19, 2008 2:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Replay on view from under the basket
Didn’t even look like he made contact with him at all.
Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."
by chirop1 on Nov 19, 2008 2:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
From all the camera angles on replay, and in HD, I still couldn’t see any contact at all. It just looked like Zeller was going for a highlight reel slam and miscalculated. Not Razor’s fault IMHO. Still feel sorry for the kid though.
Del Tha Funky Homosapien
formerly known as senowen
by Mr. Bob Dobalina on Nov 19, 2008 5:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He made contact ...
… but it was minor. Of course, when you are up in the air like that, any kind of contact is going to make you lose your balance. Zeller’s hand just struck something (I think a camera guy’s leg) when he landed.
A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan
by Truzenzuzex on Nov 19, 2008 4:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Roy always does this.
He left Hansbrough in late when they were up comfortably and his nose was broken. Zeller was on the floor with 1:20 left, long after the game had been decided. UNC fans should be concerned with this behavior.
Still not a crook!
by TrickyD26 on Nov 19, 2008 3:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That just sucks.
I am terribly sorry to hear that. Bad luck for the guy.
I expect he can get another year of eligibility if he wants one.
A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan
by Truzenzuzex on Nov 19, 2008 4:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Man, that sucks
I do hope he heels quickly. I broke my wrist last summer in a manner similar to what happened to Zeller (stuck my hand out to brace a fall and hit the ground hard) and after 3 months in a brace it improved significantly. I hope he heals quickly enough that he can get back on the court in the latter half of the season.
"That's not a Sherman tank, it's Frank Thomas!" - Monkeyball
by JLeverenz on Nov 19, 2008 5:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Its called a "FOOSH" injury
Falling On Out Stretched Hand
Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."
by chirop1 on Nov 19, 2008 5:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Zeller-less Heels will be fine
First, I hope nothing but the speediest recovery for Zeller. However, with the development of Ed Davis, Thompson, and the return of Hansbrough and Ginyard, the Heels will be fine.
by champcat24 on Nov 19, 2008 2:18 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Yeah.
Of all the players they could afford to lose, it is probably Zeller with Hansbrough coming back and Davis developing well.
Still, it is really bad that he got hurt. I am very unhappy about that. I’m not unhappy with Harris, he did nothing wrong and contact on run-outs is part of the game. But Zeller really had some tough luck there.
A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan
by Truzenzuzex on Nov 19, 2008 4:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think there is reason for optimism
In the first 8:30, it did not seem like UK had any kind of plan to exploit the kind of defense UNC was playing, it was basically “bring the ball up and see what develops”. After that, and especially in the second half, you started to see some semblance of a strategy by bringing everybody out of the lane area except for Patterson and then working the ball around until someone had the right angle to throw it near the basket and let Patterson go get it since he was being fronted all the time.
If they had tried that from the beginning, the first 8:30 would have been much different.
"That's not a Sherman tank, it's Frank Thomas!" - Monkeyball
by JLeverenz on Nov 19, 2008 5:24 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?
C! A! T! S! CATS! CATS! CATS!
by NYCCats on Nov 19, 2008 6:44 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I agree, no reason to try and put lipstick on a pig.
by TrueBlue92 on Nov 20, 2008 1:44 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Actually
Governor Palin was a pretty good PG in HS basketball at Wasilla HS.
by FortyYearCatFan on Nov 20, 2008 6:39 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
And
She certainly is not a pig. The accent may have gotten to me over time but the visuals…………
Oh, that is two great jokes in two days. Are you still drinking from the game night?
:-)
Changing how you think will change what you think.
by wilson452 on Nov 20, 2008 10:39 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Not the real Forty
The real Forty would have given us her exact stats, recruiting ranking, and record of her teams (back through elementary school). Who hacked Forty’s account?!?
C! A! T! S! CATS! CATS! CATS!
by NYCCats on Nov 20, 2008 10:59 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Cut him some slack
There is no www.bigsarahpalinhistory.net… yet. (I checked. LOL)
by Acdixon on Nov 20, 2008 2:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Funny
Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."
by chirop1 on Nov 20, 2008 11:53 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Her Team Won State Title
Her nickname was Barracuda (as in Sarah Barracuda).
by FortyYearCatFan on Nov 20, 2008 1:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The real Forty is back.
Only he could know that piece of trivia.
by Ken Pomeroy on Nov 20, 2008 7:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Nonsense
Anyone who remotely followed the Republican ticket would know this. They played the song “Barracuda” by Heart after her speech at the RNC. I know Brit Hume pointed this out; not sure about other networks. Also, Heart took exception to the Republicans’ use of the song. (I guess they voted for the other guy!)
Now, I’ll stop talking politics so I don’t get beaten with Tru’s ban stick.
by Acdixon on Nov 21, 2008 9:40 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ramon Harris' Mom Played Against Her In HS
Story in TCP a while back.
RNC failed to mention that.
by FortyYearCatFan on Nov 21, 2008 10:16 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I did not know that
And it is very interesting.
Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."
by chirop1 on Nov 21, 2008 10:18 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
True
RNC didn’t mention that, although I do remember hearing about it somewhere.
by Acdixon on Nov 21, 2008 11:17 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Tipton did
His mom kinda gave the brush off.
Sara got the "Don’t really remember her. she did not have an impact on the game etc.’ treatment.
Changing how you think will change what you think.
by wilson452 on Nov 21, 2008 12:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
She Started At PG
Harris’ Mom may not remember but Mrs. Palin led her team to the state title.
by FortyYearCatFan on Nov 21, 2008 12:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
She knows that
Did it up out of the HL archives. She knows who she is and knows about the title.
She just said “SHE” did not remember her or remember her impacting the game(s) they went head to head.
Changing how you think will change what you think.
by wilson452 on Nov 21, 2008 2:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I take Issue with some of the so called positives
UK did outrebound UNC but by only 2 and UNC got off 25 more shots than UK which would logically mean UK would get more defensive rebounds. UNC outrebounded UK on the offensive glass by 8. So that is not impressive at all.
The last 31 minutes UK played UNC to a tie. That is great if you are Georgia or some other 2nd tier team that just wants to be respectable but this is UK and UNC was without 2 starters. How far has UK fallen if you want to find positives like that.
I appluad you for trying to stay positive but this is grasping for some desperate straws that would make sense if this wasnt UK.
by SevenRings on Nov 19, 2008 7:18 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Agree with the 2 game comment
To all you people who say Roy can’t coach. Well, Roy had a great gameplan coming in the game: “prevent UK from running the offense by overplaying the passing lanes and break their confidence” Just like Florida’s 2 blocked punts that crushed our spirit in the football game. But UNLIKE Florida, which was an epic beating, UK did recover and play UNC evenly the rest of the game. There is something there. No moral victories for UK, but we’ll get better.
We will be prepared for this next time, make no mistake. The next team to try that on us will get backdoored bigtime.
by EEWildcat on Nov 20, 2008 12:27 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Kudos
To the ASoB members here who brought in the lighthearted jokes. I have to give Forty a big applause…side of him I have never seen here. Good stuff guys and gals. Keep it up!
by kykat51 on Nov 20, 2008 4:45 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

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