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VMI @ UK analysis: The morning comes with a voice of amber

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I woke up this morning and noticed that Armageddon had not showed up, and the Four Horsemen were still sleeping in their respective corners of Hell.  A significant part of me was disappointed, because it means I have to go through this day reading tons of schadenfreude from Kentucky haters about last night's loss.  That's the part of this that is, as a fan (and particularly a UK blogger), just about intolerable.  It makes me want to do something really emotional and destructive, like go on some kind of ethics-challenged rant or start breaking toasters.

But when you are a self-acknowledged adult (and trust me, at my age, adulthood is definitely assumed), you don't do those things.  Right now, embracing the hate doesn't seem to be an option, so we'll have to settle for introspection and analysis.  Not very satisfying, I know, but it is what we have.  In fact, other than abject, volcanic rage, it is pretty much all we have that has any remote relationship with the word "theraputic."

First, I want to enter a disclaimer.  Whenever you bemoan a loss and criticize the play of your team, there comes with that an implicit suggestion that your opponent had less to do with the outcome than you did.  That's unfair -- VMI left their hearts, souls and much of their flesh on the floor of Rupp Arena, and they won this game by being the better team in the context of that contest.  So to any Keydet fans who might read this, please do not take it as disparaging your valiant team and noble victory.  I acknowledge both, wholeheartedly and without any reservations.

So now for the analysis part.  Why did we lose this game? 

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The Herald-Leader reports thus:

UK Coach Billy Gillispie dismissed the suggestion that his team got caught up in VMI's style. He unwittingly seconded Holmes' thought.

"They outfought us," he said. "They got all the loose balls and outhustled us."

Does the coach really believe this?  I mean, it is true that the Keydets out-hustled Kentucky, but does he really believe we didn't get caught up in their game plan?  I can't imagine that he does, but this article says so outright.  I have news for coach Gillispie -- if you think that we didn't get caught up in VMI's style, you are mistaken, sir, and I say that with the conviction of a man who knows basketball and is confident that the evidence of his eyes was not a mirage of the uninitiated.

From my pre-game analysis, please note the following statistics:

  • 3-point shooting last year (with the leading scorer in the nation):  32.2%
  • 3 point shooting last night:  45.2%

It doesn't take a Naval nuclear reactor operator to see that if the Keydets shot their normal 3-point percentage, they would have scored four less 3-point baskets, and the result would have been a UK victory.  In fact, even if they shot 35% from 3, UK would have won.  It also goes without saying that if UK had made a reasonable percentage of the 16 three-point shots they took, say 35% or so, UK would have won.  So what it took, in effect, for the Keydets to win, even absent every other factor, was an extraordinary 3-point percentage and an unusually low 3-point percentage by their opponent.

Note in my pre-game analysis that I warned that the Keydets were senior-dominated, exactly like Gardener-Webb last year, and now we have a similar result.  Seniors matter.  We have one senior who never got into the game.  They started four.

So where did the Wildcats go wrong?  To me, this is so profoundly easy and obvious, it really scares me.  VMI did not employ any players inside the paint.  Instead, they essentially played us with five wing players, all of whom could shoot from the perimeter.  When you have that scenario, there are really two ways you can go:

  1. Play similar-sized players of equal quickness;
  2. Play a soft man-to-man defense at the larger positions.

What you cannot do is exactly what Gillispie's charges did -- follow the dribbler instead of trusting your help.  The reason is that the size mismatch on the perimeter is a serious disadvantage for the larger team.  You have to guard every position, and players like Patterson and Stevenson can't face-guard their opponent, and to their credit, they didn't try.  But Kentucky's wing players did, just as they are taught, and as a result got beat off the dribble.  When that happened, the bigger players rotated to help, but that usually resulted in either a kick- out three or ball reversal leading to a three.  That was a failure of execution which I will now explain.

When the offensive player in a scheme like VMI's gets the ball and makes a dribble-drive against a close defender, he is usually going to get past, because there is no interior clutter to force him to change direction or slow down.  That forces help-side rotation, but that help has to come from a long way away to meet the driving offensive player at the basket.  The player who got beat off the dribble has to rotate to cover his help defender's man to prevent a kick-out three.  That didn't happen.  What did happen is that the beaten defender followed his man  to the basket along with the help defender and tried to force a turnover, which resulted in either a kick out to the help defender's now unguarded man, which led to an open three right there, or ball rotation which created an open three, or a foul.

The other thing that can happen when you rotate properly is that the offensive player can pull up for an open jump shot, which seems bad except that the Keydets refused to shoot that shot when they had it.  They were coached to accept only two successful offensive outcomes -- a layup or an open three point shot, with the latter preferred.

Offensively, the Wildcats tried to score too many points in the open floor, which resulted in 25 turnovers.  That number looks ridiculous, but when you look at the number of possessions (92), it works out only to .27 turnovers/possession.  That would be the same as an 18-turnover game last year -- not good, but only 2 above our average for the season, and this is way early in the season.  Make no mistake, the turnovers hurt, but UK should have been able to overcome that statistic in isolation.

But the biggest thing Kentucky did by running up and down and failing to force VMI to defend the half-court is to take one of our most potent offensive weapons, Patrick Patterson, completely out of the basketball game.  Patterson had a ridiculously low 4 field goal attempts.  Folks, when you have a workhorse like him playing against a team who has no hope whatever of defending him effectively, getting him only 4 shots (of which he made 3) is basketball malpractice.  It is unacceptable to the point of incompetence.

In the end, there is nothing badly broken with Kentucky.  This debacle was either:

  1. A complete failure of the coaching staff to prepare the team, which is a coaching failure, or;
  2. A complete rejection of the coaching plan by the players along with flawed execution, which is a failure of coaching leadership.

Either way, this one is on the coaches.  They'd better do much better against the Tarheels, or I am going to be very displeased, and expect to have a lot of company.

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Tarheels...

Have the athletes and the shooters to play the exact same game VMI did… but better.

Gillispie had better show some of that coaching that won him SEC coach of the year, or else its going to be a long night on Tuesday.

Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."

by chirop1 on Nov 15, 2008 12:14 PM EST reply actions  

UNC ...

… does not play this kind of game. They play a much more traditional up-tempo game and rarely press.

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by Glenn Logan on Nov 15, 2008 12:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Coach Took Responsibility

And the L to VMI should have no bearing on the UNC game.

by FortyYearCatFan on Nov 15, 2008 12:15 PM EST reply actions  

Human beings aren't...

…computers. They’ll remember what happened and modify their behavior accordingly.

by Clandestine on Nov 16, 2008 4:19 PM EST up reply actions  

I've Seen It Too Many Times

Players can successfully put aside a disappointing L and play to their ability the next time versus a tougher opponent.

by FortyYearCatFan on Nov 16, 2008 8:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Sigh

Part of me wishes I could have watched the game so I would be in a better position to comment on the game. Then the more reasonable part of me notes that if I had watched this game I would very well be shopping for a new tv today.

If UK had a good, experienced guard then VMI’s pace would not have been much of an issue. As it is, UK has a good, unexperienced guard in Liggins and a somewhat experienced, okay guard in Porter. I shudder to think what will happen if they make the same mistakes at UNC Tuesday.

"That's not a Sherman tank, it's Frank Thomas!" - Monkeyball

by JLeverenz on Nov 15, 2008 12:16 PM EST reply actions  

Porter

I’ve always been a defender of his… but last night showed he can not keep up with the faster style of play.

Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."

by chirop1 on Nov 15, 2008 12:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Off Night By Porter

But he is NOT why UK lost.

There are other PG on the roster.

Coach decides who plays.

by FortyYearCatFan on Nov 15, 2008 5:24 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree

A player who only played 18 minutes did not lose the game for UK.

To me, it’s very simple:
Turnovers – UK- 25 VMI-14 (UK set their ‘tone’ by commiting 7 TO’s in the first 4 minutes)
Points off Turnovers – UK 22 VMI 38 — (23-9 in the first half)
UK lost the 3-point battle by 33 points.

It’s a miracle they only lost by 8.

Crazy stats from a perplexing game — Second chance points – UK-70 VMI-36
                                                                     Fast break points – UK-28 VMI-4

Turnovers have been UK’s bugaboo for three years + one game. They’re the reason UK has struggled over the last three season, and will be the reason if they struggle this year. A team cannot give up possessions a such a pace and expect to win, even against less than elite competition.

If this team, which has been advertised as ‘deep,’ cannot keep up with the pace that VMI set, then they are in for a long season. But, I’m sure they will work through their issues and become a strong team.

by Ken Howlett on Nov 15, 2008 5:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Gillispie

He plays 8 man rotation everywhere he coached.

by FortyYearCatFan on Nov 16, 2008 8:23 AM EST up reply actions  

Well, he's never had the talent at his disposal that he does now ...

… last year he played nine guys consistently. He doesn’t have a ‘rotation’ as some coaches do, along with the NBA, but there is no doubt that the has more talented bodies this year than any time in his coaching career.

by Ken Howlett on Nov 17, 2008 8:15 PM EST up reply actions  

TAMU In 2007

Plenty of talent. Only played 7 or 8 guys.

I don’t recall 9 last year.

by FortyYearCatFan on Nov 18, 2008 6:57 AM EST up reply actions  

I should have added ...

… he played nine if you count AJ Stewart — 22 games played, 8.6 minutes per game.

I don’t think Texas A&M had talent to the extent that he will have this year. I also don’t think a smart coach would handcuff himself by strictly adhereing to a pre-set limit on player participation.

by Ken Howlett on Nov 18, 2008 7:34 AM EST up reply actions  

I Count 10+ Minutes PT As Regular Rotation

The TAMU 2007 team was very talented. Most of them were back in 2008 and showed their talent again.

by FortyYearCatFan on Nov 18, 2008 3:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Showed their talent again?

I didn’t bother to look up how they finished… but I recall there was some very real discussion that they might not make the NCAA tournament after a mid-late season collapse.

Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."

by chirop1 on Nov 18, 2008 5:13 PM EST up reply actions  

i remember that too

that’s when turgeon started complaining that BCG would get the credit if they won, and he’d get the blame if they lost.

GO BIG BLUE!! GO BIG BLUE!!

by UKWildCatFanatic on Nov 18, 2008 6:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Guards

UK lost Crawford, Bradley, and Jasper.

They are replaced by Meeks, Liggins, and Galloway.

The former are > the latter right now.

by FortyYearCatFan on Nov 15, 2008 12:22 PM EST reply actions  

completely agree

meeks is the only one that could play with the group we lost.

GO BIG BLUE!! GO BIG BLUE!!

by UKWildCatFanatic on Nov 15, 2008 12:47 PM EST up reply actions  

The press ...

and hype aside, I think that the forthcoming UK-UNC game transcends anything you can take from a game like last night’s – expressly or implied. Amateur sports are all about match-ups, and whether or not we anticipated it, we did not match up well with VMI. I’m not resorting to excuses, but I think something was inexplicably wrong with this game – HOW DO WE SCORE 103 POINTS AND LOSE, and Patterson takes aim only 4 times?

Re: match-ups and contemporary trends – tell me which one of you though Kansas was better than Memphis last year? Don’t give me Memphis’ inability to hit free throws as the reason that KU won it all last year…Memphis was simply one team that Kansas out-matched.

That said, after a few conference wins, we’ll all forget about this loss. Unless we open next year’s season with another loss to a team like this.

by mrmondaynite on Nov 15, 2008 1:05 PM EST reply actions  

Does one learn more from a loss than a win?

Call it rationalization if you will, but I want to believe that there’s a reason BCG coaches (or doesn’t) the way he does(n’t) in these early-season games. Perhaps he believes that ‘his’ way is the best way for the team to play to ensure success in the grand scheme. Rather than adjust to the style of a VMI, he keeps on them to play ‘his’ style, even though it seems counterproductive in the short term.

This is not just blind optimism, or at least I don’t think it is. I think BCG demonstrated last year that he can make adjustments and can direct his team to play the right way to win games when it counts. So, I’m still looking forward to the rest of the season, including the UNC game Tuesday night. This team’s got limitations, but it’ll be a lot of fun to watch them develop over the course of the season.

by Mahatma on Nov 15, 2008 1:19 PM EST reply actions  

If that was Billy's plan

He needs a new plan. The thing that makes coaching at Kentucky different than coaching at another good program (say, Florida), is that it is not all about the “grand scheme.” The tournament is important, yes, but how we get there is equally important. We CARE about every game. We CARE about our overall win total. No game is a throwaway. If Gillispie really thinks losing every year early on to a team that has no business being on the same court as us is acceptable as long as he turns it around in the latter half of the year, he really doesn’t know much about this program. That may be acceptable in Texas, but it doesn’t fly here.

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by NYCCats on Nov 15, 2008 5:38 PM EST up reply actions  

i think...

i just think VMI shot the lights out ..i dont know the final PCT. because i refuse to look, but from watching it on tv with the mute button on, it appeared they hit nearly EVERY 3pt’er they took and had timely off. rebounds plus Kentuckys unforced turnovers..i think VMI beats all comers on that kind of performance and therefore think we will be fine in the long haul….i put the gun back in the cabinet and await the next game :)

" I believe in pipedreams"

by Magnoliacat on Nov 15, 2008 1:40 PM EST reply actions  

Ouch...

but seemed more like 80.8 % when waching!!

" I believe in pipedreams"

by Magnoliacat on Nov 15, 2008 2:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Excellent overall article

I’m not sure how I’ve been an active online fan for such a long period of time without reading any articles from you, but that will most definitely change. I am a moderator at True Blue Kentucky (the one with Marc Maggard), and I just want to congratulate you on an exceptional take on this VMI game. Perhaps you’ve got an edge on me when it comes to throwing words together in a way that makes sense, but I’ve been saying the exact same thing about our defense.

We were applying “pressure” to this team that 40 feet from the basket. In what was does that not play to their strengths (quickness/ball handling), especially with that 5 out offense?

Anyway, feel free to stop by TBK anytime you want, and I am sure going to make it a habit to read your articles in the future.

by #3 on Nov 15, 2008 1:57 PM EST reply actions  

Why ...

… thank you kindly.

I know TBK well, and I visit there all the time. You guys do a great job, and I appreciate you taking the time to read my rather lengthy comments. Marc and I have had some spirited discussions, and he does a great job over there, as do the rest of you and your members.

Of course, you are welcome any time. One of your other moderators, BBallSophist, comments here frequently and adds a lot of value to our little corner of the Kentucky blogosphere with his cogent observations.

Thanks again for the kind words and for coming by.

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by Glenn Logan on Nov 15, 2008 2:06 PM EST up reply actions  

BballSophist

Understandable. He’s a good guy.

by #3 on Nov 15, 2008 2:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Indeed.

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by Glenn Logan on Nov 15, 2008 2:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Tru

what do you do (career-wise) that allows you to post analysis like those – across UK sports – on a daily basis? Lots of respect. I’m a law school student, and I can rarely find the time to add anything to these insightful conversations catalyzed by the points that you pose.

by mrmondaynite on Nov 15, 2008 2:12 PM EST up reply actions  

I own ...

… two businesses that I run from my home. One is completely mine, the other I am a 10% owner of. Both are export companies, and I procure and export spare parts and equipment for the telecommunications industry and military aircraft. In other words, I am a middle-man.

If you are a law student, you shouldn’t have any time to read and comment on a blog. :-) When you own your own practice and knock back mid-six figures, you can blog all you want. :-)

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by Glenn Logan on Nov 15, 2008 2:34 PM EST up reply actions  

I feel that. I’ll remain a dedicated reader until then.

by mrmondaynite on Nov 15, 2008 3:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Haha!

It’s nice to be loved. :-)

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by Glenn Logan on Nov 15, 2008 3:14 PM EST up reply actions  

FSNS on Dish

is showing the UNC vs Penn game at 4pm. This really irks me, considering I live in Ashland, KY and was reassured by FSN that the UK vs VMI game would be shown. I don’t care if UK gets beat by 40 to IUPUI, I will continue watching and rooting for them, no matter how bad it hurts, or how difficult it is to do. We’ll be alright, and I would say that we are definitely “flying under the radar” now. As true blue, die hard fans, we’ve been through a lot of good times, and some times that we’d like to forget: Eddie Sutton era, Gardner-Webb, 2002 Marquette game, any loss to UL, and of course last night’s loss to VMI. Thanks to SOB for making it possible for me to vent on occasion, and GO BIG BLUE! Remember, the past tense of Carolina blue, is Carolina Blows!

gobigbluecatsfan72

by gobigbluecatsfan72 on Nov 15, 2008 2:43 PM EST reply actions  

Hah!

Sorry you missed the game, it had its moments. Great comment on what it means to be a ’Cat fan.

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by Glenn Logan on Nov 15, 2008 2:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Reality T.V.

Tubby Smith didn’t lose games to teams like gardner-webb and VMI. Tubby wouldn’t have loss that game with the team Billy G had on the floor. This is two years in a row. Billy G. is not the answer. He even admited to not scouting VMI the way VMI scouted UK. We have way better talent than VMI. We have Mcdonald’s All-Americans for christ sake. We need a better coach. A real Coach.

by aluvky on Nov 15, 2008 2:46 PM EST reply actions  

Paris...

Is that you with a new screen name??

Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."

by chirop1 on Nov 17, 2008 7:28 AM EST up reply actions  

I believe

that Coach G will make you and those of you that make those types of comments eat those words soon enough.

by kentuckygirl0724 on Nov 17, 2008 9:47 AM EST up reply actions  

Oh I didn't

miss the game, I paid the $9.99 to watch it on ukathletics.com. What a comeback, these guys showed great heart, grit and determination. The kind of stuff it takes to win a National Championship. We match up pretty good with UNC, believe that or not. I truly think we can shock the sports world on Tuesday night.

gobigbluecatsfan72

by gobigbluecatsfan72 on Nov 15, 2008 2:47 PM EST reply actions  

Get off the Tubby

bandwagon. Tubby is past tense. He did some good things at Kentucky. He’s a great man. A man you would want to be your neighbor or friend. But not one to coach UK, if you expect to win another National Championship. Give Billy G some time, and we’ll be fine. It’s comments like those you make on here, that probably ran Tubby off anyways!

gobigbluecatsfan72

by gobigbluecatsfan72 on Nov 15, 2008 2:49 PM EST reply actions  

Did anybody see

the UCLA vs Miami, OH game, or the Howard vs Oregon State game last night. UCLA almost lost to Miami of Ohio. Do you think they would throw in the towel if that game turned out differently? I know we aren’t supposed to lose at Rupp to anybody, but guess what, we’re not supposed to go to 3 bowls in a row either, but we are!

gobigbluecatsfan72

by gobigbluecatsfan72 on Nov 15, 2008 2:52 PM EST reply actions  

Worst part

The worst part about this is… last year I had tickets for the opening tournament and went to the Central Arkansas and… the Gardner Webb game.. got the tickets on a last second decision to take my dad and couldn’t pass them up because they were lower arnea.. Well we all know what happened there.

This year, around 5:45, I decided I was going to take my girlfriend to the game. She just moved here and has not been to a game. When we were getting out of the car, I think it was 17 to 5. I thought to myself “Maybe this is a bad idea, last year they lost when I pulled this move.”

Well we all know how that ended.

I feel terrible.

by blueninja on Nov 15, 2008 4:31 PM EST reply actions  

NOW we know who to blame!

…not Coach’s seeming lack of any coaching at all, or Patterson’s perplexing lack of touches and intensity, or Porter’s…well, just Porter in general. It was you!

I personally wasn’t feeling good yesterday, and had taken a pretty good prescription pain pill right before the game—and thank god for that, ‘cause I was in a stupor for the entirety of the festivities. If I had been sharp in my mind I would have been yelling at the screen about about how VMI isn’t even PRETENDING TO PLAY ANY DEFENSE, HOW CAN WE NOT BE TAKING IT INSIDE AND TAKING ADVANTAGE OF OUR SIZE and HOW CAN WE BE GETTING BEAT ON THE BOARDS and FOR GODS SAKES ENOUGH WITH THAT SHITTY CROSS COURT PASSING, THEY STEAL IT EVERY TIME and MAYBE WE WANT TO TRY SOME PERIMETER DEFENSE JUST FOR THE HECK OF IT??? Sigh.

Well, all I can say is, I hope they start playing smarter than this or else I may develop a prescription drug problem getting through this season : )

by blue kentucky girl on Nov 15, 2008 4:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Patterson

I agree with everything you said but am confused on Pattersons role. With their press they were giving us layups at the other end. All we needed to do was get the ball across half court and attack the rim. Meeks was the only one seemingly capable of doing that but until they went to the zone late, we should have been able to score with out Patterson. Especially in the first half we either turned it over or unexplicably couldn’t convert at the other end, even when we had numbers. Of all the disappointing things, with 20 players we couldn’t put 5 out there who could beat their suicide press and take it to the hole. Down the stretch I agree we rushed a few but until they went half court we should not have needed Pat to score. More times than not it didn’t matter but once it was across half court they were beat.

by Slim Wagers on Nov 15, 2008 4:40 PM EST reply actions  

BG didn't appear upset

at the post game conference and I think that bothered me more than the game. I wish he would show some sincere displeasure publicly with his team… I sure hope he shows it privately (if, in fact, it was player execution). He seemed somewhat meek at the post game and maybe that’s because he realizes he blew it by playing VMI’s game and not adjusting his on court personnel to execute a different scheme.

by hoboat33 on Nov 15, 2008 7:08 PM EST reply actions  

Interesting.

Gillispie has a remarkable facility for hiding his emotions when he wants to. That’s one thing I learned from last year.

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by Glenn Logan on Nov 15, 2008 7:35 PM EST up reply actions  

He tried his best to hide his inner emotion...

With this loss. I watched the post game conference and there were a few times he was biting his lips and holding stuff back. He was not happy with this loss. We have seen him cry so many times since he has been coach in different situations while at UK, but this was not the time.

by kykat51 on Nov 15, 2008 7:50 PM EST up reply actions  

This one is fairly easy...

…the coach didn’t put his team in a position to win. This one is on BCG.

by Clandestine on Nov 15, 2008 10:18 PM EST reply actions  

The morning comes with a voice of amber...

No comment on the game, but I loved the title of the article (it’s a line from an old Al Stewart song – “Roads to Moscow”). It takes me back to my UK days (76-79), when Al Stewart’s “Year of the Cat” was used as the theme song for one of the local TV stations’ sportscasts (can’t remember which one).

By the way, the article was outstanding.

by rocketman34 on Nov 16, 2008 12:06 AM EST reply actions  

Thank God ...

…somebody recognized that reference, I’m very impressed.

Roads To Moscow is quite possibly the best song Al Stewart ever wrote, performed purely with acoustic and orchestral accompaniment and as true to the dire and desperate nature of the Nazi invasion of Russia as is possible in a song. It is truly one of my favorites, and even though I shamelessly paraphrased the lyric, I thought it more appropriate to my whole “morning after” theme.

Well done. I also loved Year of the Cat, truly a tour-de-force of an album by an underappreciated artist of supernal songwriting talent.

And thanks for the praise. It’s always welcome.

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by Glenn Logan on Nov 16, 2008 12:25 AM EST up reply actions  

Away from the computer all weekend.....

And , I have had time to calm down.
I’ve taken the time to read both of Tru’s posts, and all comments up to this point.
Yes, I was dissapointed with our perimeter defense, and the rotations after VMI effected dribble penetration.
Yes, I’m dissapointed that BCG did not/could not make the necessary adjustments to stop their attack.
Yes, VMI was unconscious. When we made our run to close the gap, part of UK’s success was due to the fact that VMI missed a few of their many wide open 3’s.
I credit the VMI coaching staff for formulating an excellent game plan, and the Keydets for the proper discipline and execution of that plan. Should we be surprised that students that have chosen to attend a military school showed discipline? Our surprise should be limited to the degree of execution, regarding their 3 pt. %.

As for the UNC game, I had mentioned last week a concern that our long athletic guards may have trouble with Lawson and Frasor. While we may have trouble stopping them from penetrating the paint, the chances that all their teammates are spotted up on the 3 pt. line, and are able to knock down 3’s are low. And I don’t think that Patrick and Perry will have to attempt to guard smaller quicker players on the perimeter, as was required against VMI. Should we have employed a 5 guard lineup to try to stop them? I don’t know. I’m not a coach, never have been, never will be.

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