Kentucky @ Florida: Bring it or take a beating
by Truzenzuzex on Oct 25, 2008 12:00 PM EDT
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Kentucky Wildcats at Florida Gators, Oct 25, 2008 12:30 PM EDT
This is the official A Sea of Blue Open Game Thread for Kentucky at Florida.
The title of this one says it all. Despite the injuries, the hurts, the misery of having to drag their hind parts all the way down to Gainesville to face the powerful Florida Gators, Kentucky needs to face one fact: If they don't bring it hard against the Gators, they will return home embarrassed and humbled.
The Florida offense is the most prolific in the SEC, and they have no hurts or injuries to slow them down with the exception of offensive lineman Jim Tartt. The Gators have no excuses -- they are as ready to play as they will ever be, and they are at home where they have perhaps the most overwhelming advantage of any team in the entire SEC.
If this sounds like a tough spot for the 'Cats, yes, it is. But part of becoming the kind of football program that Brooks & Co. are trying to create, i.e. a competitive SEC program, is going down to face superior teams in their place and competing with them. If the game were played on paper, this one would have been over a long time ago. But being kind of partial to actual college football games, the SEC requires that you lace them up, put on your armor and get after it regardless of what the Vegas line is.
Five things that need to happen for the Wildcats to pull the upset:
- Take the football away from the Gators, and hold on to it themselves;
- Play confident, methodical football. Refuse to be intimidated by the mighty Gators and their fans;
- Score in the red zone every time they get there;
- Force Florida to kick field goals instead of allowing touchdowns;
- Keep the faster Gators in front of them so as to negate the big play.
Five things that could make this an ugly loss:
- Going three-and-out often and keeping the defense on the field;
- Turning the ball over with a short field for the Gators like UK did against Arkansas;
- Allow the Gator defense get to Hartline;
- Over-penetrate against Tebow on defense -- letting Tebow get open grass in front of him is a sure recipe for disaster;
- Allow Demps and Harvin to get loose in the secondary.
This is the kind of game that tells a coach a lot about how his team will compete. UK has to have near perfect focus and outstanding execution to win this game, and a victory here would exorcise all kinds of demons and change the perception of Kentucky football dramatically, as well as make us bowl eligible just halfway through the season. In other words, we have everything to win and little to lose.
Go Cats!
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Lets Get It On!
Nice analysis Tru. I would add a few more keys for UK. On offense establish the run early and work some play action off the run game to keep them guessing. As well as play good special teams which hopefully will allow UK to have the advantage of field position. Play to win instead of not to lose. I really hope Florida is overlooking UK and has an eye on the Georgia game next week. Go Blue!
by SevenRings on Oct 25, 2008 12:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Beat the odds
First the injury bug now the flu bug .. Florida better think twice about tackling us they’ll be attending the cocktail party down with a sickness
by danial on Oct 25, 2008 12:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Good Sign
On that possesion it really didnt appear we were that overmatched.
by danial on Oct 25, 2008 12:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Special Teams...
Do they coach kick blocking anymore?
by BBallSophist on Oct 25, 2008 12:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Can anyone ...
… explain to me why the hell we can’t protect our kicker??
Brooks needs to cave somebody’s head in. That is unacceptable.
A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan
by Truzenzuzex on Oct 25, 2008 12:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Calling plays
I love joker phillips but the lets get a short third down plan is not gonna work! we have to take some shots
by danial on Oct 25, 2008 12:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Should we even attempt to punt the ball anymore this game?
by danial on Oct 25, 2008 12:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Special teams
A new special teams coach that actually taught people to block should be a high priority for this team.
by wklawdog on Oct 25, 2008 1:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
First block
On that first block that guy def ran into masthay
by danial on Oct 25, 2008 1:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Are you suggesting that is roughing the kicker?
Because as long as the ball is blocked first, you can run into the kicker
by BBallSophist on Oct 25, 2008 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is ...
… very upsetting.
I can’t explain how unhappy I am at this football team right now. They not only haven’t answered the bell, they have all but mailed it in.
Maybe they will wake up and play football sometime today. I sure hope so.
A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan
by Truzenzuzex on Oct 25, 2008 1:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
the defense can only do so much
the achilles heel of this UK team is the offense and they are making things impossible for the defense to be successful today. This is just too easy for UF right now.
by SevenRings on Oct 25, 2008 1:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Ouch
Very painful day to be a Kentucky fan.
I thought it would be bad, but not this bad.
by EEWildcat on Oct 25, 2008 1:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Its homecoming
They are gonna run the score up BIG TIME
by danial on Oct 25, 2008 1:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Pride
At this point I just want to see UK show some Pride and play their hearts out. Lots of game left but things are teetering on disaster.
by SevenRings on Oct 25, 2008 1:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Can we get a first down?
That would be nice at this point
by danial on Oct 25, 2008 1:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
we are so much more dangerous with cobb as QB
by danial on Oct 25, 2008 1:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Even in the bad old days did UK ever have a worse first quarter?
28-0
0 first downs
2 blocked punts
by SevenRings on Oct 25, 2008 1:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
sorry about mr.locke
im not a weatherman,but i forecast a beatdown at th swamp.
by Hogfan_In_Ky on Oct 25, 2008 1:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I called that!
I have proof! I called that block in a chat room!
by BBallSophist on Oct 25, 2008 1:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
1:29:33 pm ‹BBallSophist› this will be blocked
by BBallSophist on Oct 25, 2008 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
whats up with the punting
cant they block for a punt
by Hogfan_In_Ky on Oct 25, 2008 1:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
FIRE WHOEVER IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS
I CALLED IT TOO SORTA PREDICTABLE
by danial on Oct 25, 2008 1:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Man.
I have no words. The one guy you must stay in front of is Demps.
Jeebus.
A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan
by Truzenzuzex on Oct 25, 2008 1:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
This is hilarious.
At this point, I can only laugh. Really.
by BBallSophist on Oct 25, 2008 1:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i say so
i hope mr. logan is watching this game
by Hogfan_In_Ky on Oct 25, 2008 1:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Does this hurt recruiting
Im sure it does but on what level?
by danial on Oct 25, 2008 1:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Nah.
It’s one game. Did LSU’s abuse at Florida’s hands hurt their recruiting?
Nah. It happens. We were ripe for it, the Gators rested, and there you go.
A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan
by Truzenzuzex on Oct 25, 2008 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tru
I took a look at Alligator Army and they dont have an open game thread….are they supposed to
by SevenRings on Oct 25, 2008 1:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hey ...
… I have enough to do worrying about this place. :-)
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by Truzenzuzex on Oct 25, 2008 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
rested or not gators were gonna beat anyway
by Hogfan_In_Ky on Oct 25, 2008 1:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If ...
… you are going to come in here and hack away at Kentucky, may I suggest you stop.
This is a game thread, and I don’t mind other opinions but I will not tolerate people coming in here agitating.
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by Truzenzuzex on Oct 25, 2008 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Learning experience
We will get better from this ..ELEIVE IT
by danial on Oct 25, 2008 1:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I have the flu
been knocked out on drugs. Did I just wake up in 1991?
Now, if Brooks wants to bitch at angry fans after this he is full of crap!
Yes it is hard to get both sides of the ball up in the same year .
Yes we lost a ton of talent.
Yes we have guys hurt.
YES YES YES!
But this is absolutely FAR outside of all of his arguments. I NEVER EVER expected to win today but this is just…………….
I ain’t calling for jobs here, I am just saying this is “Old Kentucky” at it’s finest. And yes coach, “old Kentucky” makes us all mad to see again. Wins and losses are another thing and years of good recruiting is what is needed and what you are obvioulsly doing. Hats off to you and your staff. But HOW we play is coaching.
Changing how you think will change what you think.
by wilson452 on Oct 25, 2008 1:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Florida is clicking on all cylinders...
I said it to some friends this week that I can see them running the table and perhaps playing for the BCS NC if things fall their way
by SevenRings on Oct 25, 2008 1:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
There ...
… is just no way to defend this team conventionally. Brown is going to have to start thinking in new terms if we are ever going to defend an efficient spread.
A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan
by Truzenzuzex on Oct 25, 2008 2:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hey Tru
when watching Cobb throw the ball do you think he throws with a some “touch” on the ball or is he throwing it too hard? I always felt that S Boyd used his rocket arm to his detrimant and I wonder if Cobb reminds you of that at all. I am not accusing him of anything, I just wonder if you see any of that at all.
by SevenRings on Oct 25, 2008 2:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think so
They all look like killer bullets. That can be worked out some with reps in practice by bring heat off and getting the receivers used to a little more heat. But I would take bullets over wounded ducks and floaters. HE HE…I said floater.
WHAT? We have to laugh today or we will all explode.
Changing how you think will change what you think.
by wilson452 on Oct 25, 2008 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
OOOOO...
Rachel Ray is showing us how to make dirt and worms for a Halloween party out of crushed Oreos and gummy worms.
Oh SNAP, a jack the ripper special on History Channel.
I am only kidding. I am in this to the end. The plain ol’ football fan in me is really impressed by Florida. I am sure many a basketball fan in the past has turned off the “fan” and enjoyed watching many of our past basketball teams just to be able to watch.
The season is not over and it is not over for Hartline. I just hope he knows how to run some routs :-)
Changing how you think will change what you think.
by wilson452 on Oct 25, 2008 2:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Mark Story and I...
are leaving the game now, please don’t hate us.
by cpacat on Oct 25, 2008 2:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
(sigh)
1. The Kentucky QB discussion…is over.
2. “Thinking in new terms” is correct. A while ago my six-yr-old nephew — SIX YEARS OLD — asked me, “Why is UK doing the same things they’ve always done? Wouldn’t Florida be ready for that? If you know they’re better than you, wouldn’t you have to try and do something different?”
Six. Years. Old.
My point is not to tout my precocious nephew. My point is — a CHILD knows that you can’t come into Florida with a less-talented team with the same personnel running the same plays in the SAME game plan that itself is now 6 years old. I don’t see where Florida would have had to do any film review at all. It’s the same thing. What did our coaching staff THINK would happen? You have to throw in a FEW new wrinkles, something they wouldn’t expect. Just show me that you thought about it, coaches. Please, show me something that tells me that you didn’t just assume we’d be competitive with the SAME game plan we’ve been using EVERY TIME we play a team like this.
When you don’t use your creative skills as a coach in situations like this, it results in what we have here — a four-hour prostate exam with 90,000 inlookers.
by VentDependent on Oct 25, 2008 2:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
oops
I meant onlookers. But I guess it works anyway…
by VentDependent on Oct 25, 2008 2:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
that's funny
‘inlookers" at our prostate exam… that’s funny. genuinely funny. And I didn’t think there was anything we Cat fans had to smile about today.
So at least your slip-up, VentDependent, made me laugh.
by StillCatwoman on Oct 25, 2008 2:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
No injuries!
All I want from here on out is no injuries.
Orange and Blue Hue: The World through GATOR-colored Glasses -- http://www.orangeandbluehue.com
by Gatorpilot on Oct 25, 2008 2:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Well Well GP
Nice of you to drop by :-)
You guys look ready for the world again. Great job.
I just would like the game to be over. Switching back and forth from Jack The Ripper to this is both surreal and tiresome. And I have had the flu for the past several days.
XOXO, GP
Changing how you think will change what you think.
by wilson452 on Oct 25, 2008 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not sure...
if id gauge anyones readiness on the basis of how they performed againist our cats.
" I believe in pipedreams"
by Magnoliacat on Oct 25, 2008 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If Urban....
Plays tebow anymore…the man is insane.
" I believe in pipedreams"
by Magnoliacat on Oct 25, 2008 2:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If...
If my team had a chance to put 100 pts on the board on homecoming day I would prob go for it too… JK Well
by danial on Oct 25, 2008 2:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Florida ...
… being good sports now. Not trying too hard, but trying hard not to look like it.
Well done. Sucks for us, but well done.
A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan
by Truzenzuzex on Oct 25, 2008 2:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Georgia
should be very worried. Not only do they have LSU today but Florida next week. Florida is looking like the best team in the SEC these last few games.
by SevenRings on Oct 25, 2008 2:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm hearing an echo from the past....
It’s saying, “Wait until basketball season!!!!”
Del Tha Funky Homosapien
formerly known as senowen
by Mr. Bob Dobalina on Oct 25, 2008 2:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
How much better do you think we'll be next season Tru?
by danial on Oct 25, 2008 2:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Significantly on offense ...
… maybe not as good on defense.
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by Truzenzuzex on Oct 25, 2008 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No reason to pull a Spurrier...
The game is done. Leaving Tebow in would be bad karma.
Del Tha Funky Homosapien
formerly known as senowen
by Mr. Bob Dobalina on Oct 25, 2008 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Going for it on 4th and inches?
Not good.
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by Truzenzuzex on Oct 25, 2008 2:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Florida ...
… has held all day long, and 90% have gone uncalled.
Home game.
A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan
by Truzenzuzex on Oct 25, 2008 2:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Besides Lyons
Are we losing anyone on offense next year?
by danial on Oct 25, 2008 3:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Florida
has done everything right, executed nearly perfectly, been lucky on a few occasions, gotten all the calls and Kentucky has looked like a high school team. I’m not going to hate on Florida for that.
Del Tha Funky Homosapien
formerly known as senowen
by Mr. Bob Dobalina on Oct 25, 2008 3:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Running the score up
How about hating on them for that
by danial on Oct 25, 2008 3:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
And gator tail
does NOT taste like chicken. It is chewy and nasty. Anyone who says different is full of crap.
Changing how you think will change what you think.
by wilson452 on Oct 25, 2008 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Honestly
I don’t think they are trying to run up the score on purpose. The Cats are just that futile today.
Del Tha Funky Homosapien
formerly known as senowen
by Mr. Bob Dobalina on Oct 25, 2008 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ok
going for a TD on fourth down is an A-hole move. Maybe they are scared of our fourth quarter prowess!!! That’s right. 70 points in a quarter, here is comes.
Del Tha Funky Homosapien
formerly known as senowen
by Mr. Bob Dobalina on Oct 25, 2008 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Confused
Do we need 1 win to be bowl eligible or 2 wins to make it a sure thing?
by danial on Oct 25, 2008 3:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
yes and yes
Changing how you think will change what you think.
by wilson452 on Oct 25, 2008 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
1 to be eligible...
and I would bet they would get an invite just because of fan support. But 2 would close the deal.
by SevenRings on Oct 25, 2008 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
SO,
Back to the QB thing.
I am trying SOOOOO hard not to just scream at the TV.
This is starting to be not cool for Hartline, not cool to Cobb, not cool to the fans and not cool to the QB’s on the line for next year.
Do the receivers know NOTHING or are Hartline’s throws that bad. DANG I hated going there but felt I just had to.
Changing how you think will change what you think.
by wilson452 on Oct 25, 2008 3:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
When is it considered running the score up?
by danial on Oct 25, 2008 3:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I usually think it starts midway through the 4th quarter...
Not to be Florida apologist but with a backup QB in the game I would like to see what he can do if I was them
by SevenRings on Oct 25, 2008 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tru's Post Mortem..
for todays game should be interesting. There is absolutely nothing positive to take away from this game…nothing
by SevenRings on Oct 25, 2008 3:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I know that changing the offense is a desperate move...
But your defense can’t be on the field 45 minutes of the game and be effective at the same time. They are going to have to figure out a way to keep the offense on the field for more than three plays at a time. Run the Nebraska offense if you have to for $#%$ sake. Just figure out something effective. The current offensive scheme is not effective and is not going to get better this season, period.
Del Tha Funky Homosapien
formerly known as senowen
by Mr. Bob Dobalina on Oct 25, 2008 3:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
No RUTS
This is not running up the score. The first team has played well, and the second team needs experience. Kentucky’s a legit SEC defense and this is valuable time which will pay dividends in future years. Hopefully no one takes offense to Brantley driving downfield.
Orange and Blue Hue: The World through GATOR-colored Glasses -- http://www.orangeandbluehue.com
by Gatorpilot on Oct 25, 2008 3:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That last touchdown ...
… was fine. It’s never running up the score when your second string is in.
We don’t wand Florida taking a knee. Nobody likes to get thrashed, but it happens. Florida won this fair and square, and when you run your reserves, any points they score are just honest effort.
A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan
by Truzenzuzex on Oct 25, 2008 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What good sports
Keeping your heisman QB in the game with a 60 pt lead.. so we can learn !
by danial on Oct 25, 2008 3:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Thanks...
… for a clean game. As always my respect for Kentucky remains high.
Orange and Blue Hue: The World through GATOR-colored Glasses -- http://www.orangeandbluehue.com
by Gatorpilot on Oct 25, 2008 4:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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