This NABC whining is getting old
by Truzenzuzex on Oct 1, 2008 6:11 PM EDT
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Comes now The Loathsome Troll Jeff Goodman with a blog post just dripping with disdain and schadenfreude.
According to Goodman, some of the oh-so-urbane coaches in the NABC have decided that Kentucky moving Big Blue Madness by utilizing the perfectly legal two hour/week rule is a huge problem. It seems these coaches were shocked -- shocked! and outraged that Gillispie would dare use those sacrosanct two-hour segments for anything as overtly commercial as Big Blue Madness. According to Goodman, they are so ticked off that they will petition the NCAA to forbid the practice.
A more self-righteous bunch of whining ninnies can scarcely be imagined. Ostensibly, they are claiming that the two hours per week allowed by the NCAA for practice time from September 15 until the official start of the season on October 17th was supposed to be for "skills development." Apparently, they believe such a high-minded ideal such as "skills development" between the aforementioned dates is so important to the players that skimming off two hours in order to beat others to the "midnight madness" punch is just plain wrong, and tsk, tsk, and might somehow damage the proper development of Gillispie's charges. Let me say that again -- according to Goodman, the NABC is saying the loss of these two hours for Big Blue Madness might damage player development! The scandal!
It isn't bad enough TLT Jeff Goodman's claim that the NABC went after Gillispie with their statement of "strong disapproval" of accepting verbal commitments from younger players was false, especially considering Gillispie was only one of many who were engaging in the practice, and the NABC explicitly denied any connection to a particular coach. He also didn't trouble to note that Gillispie, up until now, has not resumed the practice, even though Billy Donovan notoriously accepted a commitment from Austin Rivers after the NABC "strong disapproval" was made and Gillispie promised to abide by it. If we are to believe Goodman, the NABC is now going after Gillispie and dropping all pretenses about that fact.
Then, in yet another twist clearly (and successfully in my case, it seems) designed to annoy Kentucky fans, The Loathsome Troll Jeff Goodman goes on to mention a story that he wrote for Fox Sports on Tubby Smith's recruiting class. This part of his post has absolutely nothing particularly newsworthy in there except a few quotes from Royce White, a 5-star forward from Minnesota who committed to his home-state school praising Coach Smith.
TLT Jeff Goodman can't fail to know that Smith is the current NABC president -- so now he is suggesting, essentially, that Smith is presiding over an NABC assault on Billy Gillispie personally, and implying complicity by Smith in that act. Anyone who has ever read this blog knows that I am a big fan of Tubby Smith, and I am pleased as punch that he is doing well at UM. But what we have here is a deliberate attempt by TLTJG to rile up the Big Blue Nation and embarrass Billy Gillispie. I suppose I shouldn't be surprised, but this is the same guy who told me in an email that Tubby Smith essentially committed a crime in the case of the Immaculate Fax, for which I rebuked him sharply.
But Goodman's clear purpose was to use this little aside to tweak those Kentucky fans who don't like Smith and generate more chaos among the fans of the Blue and White. He probably hopes to provoke the more radical elements of the Big Blue Nation into condemning Smith for assailing Gillispie from his perch at the head of the NABC. That's patently absurd, but TLTJG is sure going out of his way to connect those dots for us.
It's hard to say who is being more peurile -- TLT Jeff Goodman or the NABC. I'm willing to call it a draw, but whoever the coaches are pitching a fit about this, they need to get over themselves. Even better, they can reveal themselves in the media so I can openly and unabashedly mock them all by name, and if Smith is one, he can prepare to be mocked as well.
As far as I am concerned, a lower form of life than TLTJG can scarcely be found anywhere without bars on the windows and doors.
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This is getting old
I am so sick of Goodman and others continually pointing fingers at UK for doing things that are not against any rule yet insinuating all sorts of shady things. The main problem I have with this tactic is that it is like political spin. Making assertions against a program or person with the backing of a major sports outlet gives the less intelligent reader all the ammunition they want to go after whoever the target of the assertion is even if there is nothing “shady” going on. Quite frankly the NABC has no real authority anyway so I could care less what they have to say.
I remember when Obama visited UNC and played pick up or shot hoops with them. I actually read an article where someone was trying to make a big deal of it because Roy Williams attended and that “may” be against some rule. I don’t like UNC but I realized that it was no big deal but there are so many small minded people that believe everything they read without using critical thinking to determine what the author is trying to say and if it really holds any relevance. It just angers me that so many people have the “bully pulpit” to go after anyone even if it is nothing. They must think the majority of readers are fools.
by SevenRings on Oct 1, 2008 6:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
WEAK
“Word Is”?Who?Name names.What board?Tubby was our coach for 10 years,and rather you like him or not,the man is a CLASS ACT.UK fans are smarter than this.
by -Zoso- on Oct 1, 2008 6:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'll Name 2 Boards
The Cats Pause (UK Rivals). And Dynasty Defenders. Both were/are virulently Anti-Tubby to this day.
by FortyYearCatFan on Oct 2, 2008 6:34 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
TLT = goober. NABC: eh, maybe not so much
I agree that the title and tenor of the blog post is rather provocative and it is certainly misleading for the reason you point out Tru. I also know that TLT has no friends among UK fans and it certainly seems like he goes out of his way to put UK in the worst possible light whenever possible. This should certainly be pointed out and rebutted whenever necessary and you do a good job of calling him on it.
That said, I think you might be going a bit overboard calling the NABC “puerile” in this instance. There is nothing to prevent any school from doing exactly what UK and Gillispie are doing by using the 2 hours for the week before the official start of practice, but I think there is a legitimate reason for the NABC to want to keep practices as uniform as possible. The rule was established to give coaches a chance to work with their players once school started (I think all NCAA institutions are in school by Sept 15). UK found a way to use it in a way that wasn’t wrong, or unethical, or devious; but it’s also a way that it wasn’t intended to be used and the NABC is just looking to remedy that situation. I don’t think it’s so much closing a loophole as it is providing a clarification.
"That's not a Sherman tank, it's Frank Thomas!" - Monkeyball
by JLeverenz on Oct 1, 2008 7:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Why ...
… would the NABC care if the NCAA doesn’t.
I’m sorry, but some in the NABC are just looking for ways to stick it to Gillispie. That seems clear.
A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan
by Truzenzuzex on Oct 1, 2008 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not so sure the NCAA doesn't not care
I don’t have anything to back that up, except it would be unusual for the NCAA to be indifferent when a school uses a rule in a way it wasn’t intended to be used. They can’t do anything about it this year, but I imagine it will be brought up at a future rules committee meeting.
That said, I don’t think that how the NCAA feels is relevant to how the coaches feel. Some coaches want a clear distinction between the official start of practice and the time period where they’re allowed to get together with their players for a few hours a week. They thought that distinction existed with the traditional Midnight Madness setup, but UK showed the distinction didn’t exist, or at least was more fungible than it was thought to be. Coaches are perfectly capable of wanting to maintain that traditional start to the practice season without being motivated by any personal antagonism or irritation towards Gillispie or UK.
As an aside, Bill Self for one doesn’t seem to care at all if other schools want to move up their Midnight Madness.
"That's not a Sherman tank, it's Frank Thomas!" - Monkeyball
by JLeverenz on Oct 1, 2008 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I kinda like the title
it’ll give Coach G street cred.
Recruit: “Yo Coach, I hear they’re givin you a hard time bout the Midnight Madness deal.”
BG: “Yeah, tha man is always trying to stick it to you. It’s just a bunch of noise they’re trying to bring down on me.”
Recruit: “What’s the deal? You ain’t doing nothing wong, right?”
BG: “Ha ha ha ha! No, not doing nothing wrong. They’re just afraid of me.”
Recruit: “Afraid of you? What’d you do to get them so scared?”
BG: “Well you see, I took over the winningest program in all of college basketball and they are afraid I’m gonna make it better.”
Recruit: “How can you make it better?”
BG: “Well, that’s where you come in. Them other coaches are scared cause they know that once you’ve visited here and check out my program, you’re gonna want to commit. Once you commit I’ve got five more star players that are ready to jump in.”
Recruit: “So they’re not going to make you change the date for the Midnight Madness?”
BG: “Nawww. My good buddy Goodman is just stirring up some headlines for us, to keep us in the news. As long as someone logs onto one them pages and sees Kentucky then when the season is going and they turn on the TV and see Kentucky, millions of people are saying our name every day practically. You know what that means?”
Recruit: “What’s that coach?”
BG: “Everytime you step on the court there are going to be hundreds of thousands of people watching you play ball! On our 14 national games you will be watched by millions!”
Recruit: “For real? They really gonna have 23,000 people to watch practice next Friday?”
BG: “Probably more. They squeeze 5 to a seat sometimes I hear just to watch that practice. So when should I expect you?”
Thank you Jeff Goodman. You are a secret UK admirer I can tell. Not only do you give us help with recruiting but you also get to add fuel to the bonfire that is Coach Gillispie.
GO BIG BLUE!!!
by bluecrip on Oct 1, 2008 7:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Ha bluecrip...
That is great! The more national exposure UK gets is all the better.
But I am tired of TLT Goodman even though he may have helped UK in the long run.
I would never say anything against our former coach Smith…he is a class act and I appreciate the years he gave to our basketball program as well as Coach P. I just find it very difficult to harbor resentment towards any former coach at UK, albeit the ones that broke the rules.
by kykat51 on Oct 1, 2008 7:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
As for the early Big Blue Madness...
It is perfectly legit and as per Tru, I would like to know the coaches that are whining about Coach G getting a head up on them, they need to get a life!
by kykat51 on Oct 1, 2008 8:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Well...
I hope we land 2 commitments after Madness just for spite. That would really give them something to bitch about! :)
by SevenRings on Oct 1, 2008 9:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Only 1 Opening
Orton or the Turkish kid will get it.
by FortyYearCatFan on Oct 2, 2008 6:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Piling on
Im always down with some Jeff Goodman bashing.
The man’s truly a douchebag.
DOWN WITH THE LOATHSOME TROLL!!!
DEEETROIT BASKETBALLL!!!
by davw83 on Oct 1, 2008 10:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Folks Have Been Anti-UK Since The 1940's
Goodman is just the latest. Tubby OTOH continues to be positive and complimentary about UK basketball (case-in-point, his Thumbs Up to the father of Daniel Orton when he called him about UK).
His article about Tubby’s recruiting in 2009 is accurate. Minnesota recruits are rated #10 by Hoopmasters and #17 by Rivals this fall.
by FortyYearCatFan on Oct 2, 2008 6:32 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
This Part Of The Goodman Story On Tubby Is Not Factually Accurate
“…Tubby Smith was hammered in his days in Lexington by Wildcat fans for his failure to recruit McDonald’s All-Americans. I wrote it, fans yelled it and ultimately it was Smith’s inability to get the big-time players that led to his departure from one of the nation’s most prestigious programs…”
Tubby signed 7 McDonalds A-A and 10 Parade A-A in 9+ years of UK recruiting. (I say 9+ because he may have signed Patterson and Lucas had he completed 10 years)
Big-time players are defined as Top 25 or maybe Top 50. Let’s go with the latter (50). Tubby signed 16 Top 50 players in 9+ years. P and L would have been 18 in 10 years.
Tubby did not leave UK because of recruiting. He took a different job for a new challenge.
by FortyYearCatFan on Oct 2, 2008 7:05 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
ESPN
Andy Katz has picked this story up as well,just not with the spin.Also Katz is reporting that Liggens and Miller are expected to be “impact” players this year,according to insiders.
by -Zoso- on Oct 2, 2008 7:11 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Goodman?
I’m glad i don’t know who the guy is…only time ive seen his name is on here. I read alot of stuff but i guess the good LORD gave me the ability to see trash when its trash and throw it out! Like Billy G or not…like Kentucky or not….both are gonna be around for a long time and both are gonna make noise, so get used to get! GO CATS!
" I believe in pipedreams"
by Magnoliacat on Oct 2, 2008 8:38 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
foxsports.com
Once every couple of weeks is often enough.
by racercat98 on Oct 2, 2008 1:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Jim Haney and the NABC
Hypocrisy — They’re concerned ( The NABC ) that the coaches are staging Midnight Madness in order to recruit, well duh, instead of the focal point being “spending time with their players.” Give me a break.
Meanwhile, Coach K is recruiting on national television every March, and nary a peep is heard.
by Ken Howlett on Oct 2, 2008 2:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Not just March...
he’s year round now.
by racercat98 on Oct 2, 2008 3:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yep and it's only going to
get better (worse?) for Coach Kowolski. With the gold medal slung around his neck every Tom Dick and Harry will want him promoting their products. I am glad that he was able to manage the US Team into a gold medal but I would like to see him take over the Clippers and get them to the conference finals. At least he’d be on the other coast and in another time zone so we don’t have to see his mug every 12 minutes during basketball season.
by bluecrip on Oct 3, 2008 10:09 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
K And Roy Williams
The 2 best coaches in college basketball today, ahead of Donovan, Calhoun, and Izzo.
by FortyYearCatFan on Oct 3, 2008 2:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Except
Howland has no ring on his finger. K has 3, Roy has 1.
And K has won 75% of his career games, Roy 80% of his.
Howland is below 70% for his career.
K has 10 FF, Roy has 6. Howland just 3.
by FortyYearCatFan on Oct 5, 2008 10:40 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I could list all of the coaches who have rings, but that seems ridiculous ...
… in other words there are many, many coaches who have won a NC that I wouldn’t hire to coach a middle school team.
Howland took Pitt to another level, and he’s done a fabulous job rebuilding UCLA, and quite quickly I might add. He’ll get his ring, or rings soon enough. He’s the best teacher of defense in college basketball, which is why he tops my list of great coaches.
Obviously K is a great, Hall of Fame coach, and Williams is a good/great coach, who like Pitino, seems to implode when the bright lights are on.
by Ken Howlett on Oct 9, 2008 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If I were in a dark alley I'd
take Howland. K and WIlliams are sissy boys. Yes they have done more in college basketball but they just reek of disease and pestilence. I see them and I see dead people.
by bluecrip on Oct 6, 2008 2:41 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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