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South Carolina at Kentucky -- Quick thoughts

What an impressive effort by Devan Downey and the South Carolina Gamecocks.  This is a team that has real potential if they can get some bigger people, but today, the Wildcats were just too big and strong for them, despite the fact that Kentucky was missing one of their 3 main scorers and rebounders, Joe Crawford.  Props to South Carolina and their entire team for an outstanding effort.

It seems that this Kentucky team has finally found itself, and to pull off this win with Joe Crawford in street clothes was an amazing accomplishment.  Neither Jodie Meeks nor Derek Jasper are in sufficient shape to play the iron-man minutes Crawford has been logging, but despite that, they managed to log 38 and 31 minutes respectively.

My thoughts on this game:

  • If you can't match up with Patterson, it is tough to beat the Cats.  His strength and motor are amazing.
  • Perry Stevenson's confidence continues to grow.  He needs to be more reliable on the 15 footer, though.
  • Kentucky shot 51% from 2, 61% from 3, and 78% from the line and won by 8.  How does this happen?  USC got up 14 more shots than the Cats.
  • When Kentucky keeps it at 15 turnovers or under, it seems that we are always in the game.
  • Ramel Bradley is simply amazing right now.  That behind-the-back turnover he made on a fast break just shows you how his confidence is spiking.  And what a shooting display - 8-13 from the floor, 5-5 from 3 for 26 points, 10 rebounds, 4 assists and 5 turnovers.  I wonder if USC left their earrings in ...
  • Perry Stevenson helps out Patterson so much in so many tiny ways.
  • Jodie Meeks is still not 100%, but he gave whatever he had today.  Great effort.
  • Jasper's three-point shooting is frightening.  If he could only take more.  What an improvement from last year.
  • Ramon Harris only played 11 minutes.
  • We continue to outrebound our opponents.
  • Great job getting the ball into the post.  Gillispie must be pleased with that.
  • UK's defense was not all that today.  Gillispie can't be pleased about that.
  • Rupp Arena is becoming an advantage again.
Overall, a great job by Kentucky getting it done.  Whenever you win a game with a starter down, especially when you have a bench as shallow as Kentucky, it is impressive and reason to celebrate.

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A happy win
This was a trap game and UK got through it with a win - I'm very happy about that.

Only 4 turnovers in the second half is terrific.

9-9 overall, 3-2 SEC and UK played well in both losses, on the road, to two solid teams.  I'm excited to see (well, listen) to how the team plays the remainder of the way.  UK is going to have a lot to say about who wins the SEC this year, something I don't think a lot of us thought would be the case back in December.

On a personal note, UK is now 9-0 when I don't watch them play on TV and 0-9 when I do.  I'm not normally a superstitious person, but that's just too strange to ignore.

Looking for a rock to wind a piece of string around.

by JLeverenz on Jan 26, 2008 4:05 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

hmmmm...
Yes, you need to continue with the radio, please : )  I think listening as opposed to watching really DOES lend a fun, retro quality to experiencing a game.  I enjoy listening to homers as the announcers, too.  I think Tom Leach does a great job.

Rupp seemed really lively and loud today.  Tru's right that it is becoming a real advantage for the team.  Gillispie remarked on this after the game too.

It was a fun game to watch.  Patterson is simply a beast--he has to be one of the most impressive Kentucky freshmen since...who?  It's been a while.  Oh lord, please let him come back next year (yes, I know that's something to worry about another day)  It is so nice to see Stevenson developing to help him out down there.  While I'm not going to get carried away and act like we're all awesome now because we won two games in a row, the team IS really starting to find itself.  I don't know if it is going to be enough for us to get to the NCAAs this year.  I'm a little dubious about the possibility of an at-large, although us winning the SEC tourney does seem a definate possibility, with tons of our fans there and our postseason lives hanging in the balance.  But postseason or no, I DO feel very good about our future with Gillispie, which I'm going to admit I was getting a bit worried about in the dark days of December.

by blue kentucky girl on Jan 26, 2008 5:46 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Rondo, probably ...
although he played a different position, he was surely impressive in his freshman year.

But when was the last big player we had that was as capable as Patterson?

I'd have to say Mashburn.

by Truzenzuzex on Jan 26, 2008 5:50 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I agree..
about Rondo being the most recent high impact freshman, though that was mostly with his ability get the steal on the defensive end.  You definitely got to go with Mash as one of the best all time.  He truly did it all, rebound, hit the big three...he was a beast in every sense of the word.

Honorable mention goes to Mercer...on a stacked team he came up HUGE in the finals against 'cuse.

by wldcatsfreak on Jan 26, 2008 10:00 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Impact Frosh At UK
Robey was the first (in 75). Shidler in 77. Anderson in 79. Bowie in 80. Chapman in 87. Mills in 89. Mash in 91. Bogans in 2K. (A few more)

by FortyYearCatFan on Jan 26, 2008 10:18 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

WIN !!!!!!!!!!
Very nice. Complete effort by everyone. Folks looks like are team may be coming around. I know all you BCG bashers are loving this lol. Bring on Georgia I believe this next 4 of 5 on the road will gel these guys. When you say your prayers at night dont forget to sneak in a please no more injuries.Everyone be safe. GO CATS

by ukblue20 on Jan 26, 2008 4:58 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Ramel Bradley 2008 = Acie Law 2007
Check their numbers. You'll be surprised how close they are.

by FortyYearCatFan on Jan 26, 2008 5:04 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Heh ...
It would really be something if Bradley became as accomplished a player as Law in one short year.

That would be something.

by Truzenzuzex on Jan 26, 2008 5:44 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Better every year
My opinion what we see now on the court is a coach encouraging the players to use their ability to the max.  Now I know thats been talked about before.  Here we see the difference between Tubby's approach and Billy's approach.  Look at the difference in play.
mybluei

by xxmikeo1 on Jan 27, 2008 6:48 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Just Like 1998-99-2000
Look at the difference in play for Sheppard, Nazr, Magloire, Padgett, and Turner.

Each was much more productive (10+ ppg, All-SEC, etc) than they were previously.

Bradley and Crawford got better each year at UK.

by FortyYearCatFan on Jan 27, 2008 8:49 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Bradley
Bradley was "credited" with 5 turnovers as Tru notes, but one was on the behind the back pass, and another was palming. I realize a To is a TO, but considering the minutes he is playing, and the pace at which they played today, his performance was simply outstanding.

He shut down Frederick the last 16 minuts of the 2nd, after he was asked to guard the 3 point shooter.

Stevenson continues to impress. He is the key to this team beating good teams, I feel. His defense has been good, but his added scoring punch is what is most needed. That takes the pressure off of Bradley, Crawford, and Patterson. Couple Stevenson's offensive presence with Meeks getting closer to 100%, and Gillispie has the makings of a pretty good offensive basketball team.

Jasper looks to be very close to 100%.

Crawford has a week before the next game. Let's hope his foot is feeling better. Georgia is extrememtly well coached, if shorthanded.

Congrats on a good win.

Who woulda thunk it only 3 weeks ago?

Oh by the way, Patterson is good.

by Ken Howlett on Jan 26, 2008 5:33 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Yeah Patterson is good
very, very good. What did he get, 5 off boards? His presence makes the rest of this team look good. Kudo's to Bradley for an outstanding game as he led the team in points, rebounds, and assists. He only played 7 players but BCG has found a way to win the last couple of games. I take back everything bad I ever said about him...until the cats lose a game...
Stinky Blue

by Stinky Blue on Jan 26, 2008 5:40 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

With a rotation of six guys
UK outlasted SoCar. Coury had four active minutes and one turnover and did start the game but essentially it was a six man game for UK. That was a rather impressive effort. I (so did everyone else)knew that Downey was going to soften our defense like a dryer sheet, but I thought the defense played tough when it had to. I agree that Coach will have some things to say about catching a break defensively.

During that 12-0 run by SoCar at beginning of 2nd half I thought that Frederick was going to be the nail in our coffin.

What I noticed is that the only SoCar player to get to the foul line was Downey (2-3) while we had four guys (18-23). That shows me that they are buying into the idea of going to the basket aggressively (Stevenson the most noticeable lately.) The most obvious benefit of that is shortening the opposing bench so that instead of six on ten it gets closer to six on six with our six CONDITIONED for 37-40 min games. That's what this season calls for and it's nice to see that rounding into shape for coach. Now, if we can keep our guys healthy. Get well Joe!

The reason that SoCar had 14 more shots than UK is because of our 15 turnovers which led to shots on goal. Bradley's behind the back TO was criticized by the Gaycom announcers (yes, even Connoley.) They lamented that he should have taken it to the basket instead of being flashy. I personally think that it was a momentum thing. UK had it going and a little flash off the opposing team's TO isn't so bad. He just put too much on his pass instead of laying it out for Jasper (who isn't at full speed & in the heat of the play Bradley probably forgot about it.) What was inspiring about the play was that Bradley could have gone to the bucket with the ball but thought of his teammate instead. NICE!!! Had it been Crawford trailing he most likely would have gotten it. Either way it wasn't a game changing play even with the three at the other end. I think Bradley answered right back with one of his own.

These guys are obviously coming together. The rotation is getting shorter without serious side effects and looking at the bench you can see smiles of support. I have really been happy with Bradley lately. In SEC play he has really turned his game around. He looks like a team player while at the same time a PTP'er. Knowing how important guard play is in the NCAA's I am beginning to like our chances for a Sweet Sixteen should we get there.

As for next game I think UK will lose by 10 at Georgia. I just don't think we can be physical enough with Felton's crew who are notoriously in your face defensively. Hopefully I'll be wrong and we can pull out a W. Good luck Cats.

:)

by bluecrip on Jan 26, 2008 5:58 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Nice win...
...  those 'Cocks are hard to beat, and UK came through.  What's the word on Crawford?  When can he play again?
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by Gatorpilot on Jan 26, 2008 6:04 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Plantar fasciitis still bothering him, I think.
He twisted his ankle Tuesday against UT.

UK will need him in Athens next Saturday.

By the way, the Vandy radio people are split on the game tomorrow. (I live in Kentucky, but I'm only about 55-60 miles north of Nashville.)

One thinks Ogilvey is going to get off tomorrow, the other thinks playing on the road is too much for Vandy to overcome.

by Ken Howlett on Jan 26, 2008 7:50 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Continuing education interrupts ballgame
I had to finish up my continuing ed hours for the year today.  It was at a seminar in Louisville.  Funny notes from the day... it was a room of about 200 chiropractors (fun fun learning about proper documentation) and the guy teaching was from Minnesota.  Just before lunch he jokes as an aside "By the way, thanks for sending us Tubby Smith."  From my seat and about 5 others around the room you hear "You're welcome!"  But in all seriousness, he did say that everyone up there was excited because they are winning ball games and they're looking forward to new facilities etc.

We took a break for lunch at noon, so I left the hotel (Hilton Garden Inn at the airport) and grabbed a bite with a few guys I know at the Hall of Fame cafe.  I start noticing that I'm the only person in Kentucky Blue in the entire place and I actually get a couple of stares.  The waitress promised no one would spit in my food though.

We were back in session right at one o'clock (tip time naturally).  We ended up taking another "5 minute" break at a little after two.  As we wander into the hotel lobby, several of us start gravitating towards the TV where the game is at about the 7 minute mark.  More and more people notice and start collecting around the TV.  Eventually, the presenter comes out in the lobby and sees 30-40 of the class watching the ballgame.  When he sees who's playing he just says "Oh.  Okay, we'll start up when they finish."  Heh heh.

From what I saw, looks like another gutsy performance from the Cats.  Good stuff.

by chirop1 on Jan 26, 2008 7:09 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

My Cats
A few quick thoughts of my own:

-PPat is an absolute beast.  If we are lucky enough to have him for 3 yrs, my lord.

-Bradely has finally realized how to play his best game.

-Jasper is good.  He is so versatile, I'm curious to see how good he might be by his senior year.  And holy cow, does he have an outside shot now, or what?  

-Downey is really good.

-It seems to me Meeks is still a step slow.

-Perry is currently a fantastic compliment to PPat.

Overall, it is so nice to enjoy watching when my Cats play again, which is a great contrast from the beginning of the year.  My confidence that BCG will acheive great things is growing daily.  Solid win.  

by yonder24 on Jan 26, 2008 7:23 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

unfortunately...
I didn't get to see the game today because I was at work. Seems like I missed a real spectacle, huh? I'm so glad to hear things went our way today. This is the team we expected from the beginning. Wouldn't it be something if we either won out, including the SEC tourney, and bought ourselves a bid into the NCAA tourney? Somewhat of a long-shot right now, but I would love to see the reactions of all the nay-sayers. It truly would be something :D  

by Carissa on Jan 26, 2008 8:16 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Feelin' good about the 'Cats
It's hard to believe the progress this team has made since the beginning of SEC play.

There are several areas of bemoanment (is that a word?) which have been either corrected or coached up. Along with the return of Meeks and Jasper to more substantial roles, this team shows signs of being pretty good.

Some of the issues that were of major concern to many here at ASoB, including me:

Lack of leadership- I am so pleased with Bradley. He has certainly responded to Gillispie's admonitions to him regarding "leaderless possessions". He has risen to the level of his confidence, which has never been lacking.

Lack of help for Patterson in the paint- The most welcome improvement, because it takes the team to another level. The improved play of Stevenson has made a huge difference is how efficiently the offense runs. Having the ability to run the high- low helps to get open looks on the perimenter. And we know these guys are capable of hitting their threes consistently. Stevenson has even stepped up his defense. He's not committing fouls every 45 seconds. That fact alone is a huge improvement. Especially when considering how UK was out-shot from the free throw line by a wide margin every game. Not anymore.

Will UK ever score against a zone again?- After the Houston and UAB games that was the question. UK seemed as if they had never seen a zone before. They looked totally lost, and disorganized. My how times have changed. They are spreading and attacking the zone, getting penetration, and just generally creating all kinds of problems for the opponents.

Turnovers, turnovers, turnovers, my gawd the turnovers!- Not a drastic improvement at this point, but certainly they are valuing the ball more than before. Today, they took excellent care of the ball. Of the 15 turnovers, three were 3 second calls (insert clearing of throat) and a palming. So that leaves only 11 ball-handling or passing errors. Not bad considering the pace. Only 4 turnovers in the second half. Hopefully they will continue to improve in that area.

Why all the injuries?- I don't have an answer for that one, but they're nearer healthy than they have been all year. Keeping fingers crossed.

Does Clyde know what he's doing?- If you were holding your breath, you can now exhale. The improvement I've seen since Nov. 7th is astounding. Gillispie deserves the overwhelming credit for this, in my opinion. Some may argue that we have our players back. That's true, but the execution of the offense and defense has gotten better by leaps and bounds. Sticking with his plan, not wavering in his philosphy, but bending a bit on a few issues, shows to me that Clyde knows exactly what he is doing. The players have certainly responded.

Alex Legion- Who?

by Ken Howlett on Jan 26, 2008 8:43 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I missed the game.
Had to work.  But it's been good to get on here and read how it went.  My, the hard times of December seem so far away right now and I'm glad.  I just hope our boys can keep this momentum going.  Improvement is there and as we get healthy, we will get better and better.  Thanks for the coverage. I can always count on A Sea of Blue to catch me up when I have to miss a game due to the need to afford food and pay bills.
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by hoopchi on Jan 26, 2008 10:06 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Deja Vu All Over Again?
Gutsy grinding comeback for a team that once wore that reputation. I love the growing confidence of the younger Cats, especially with Joe on the bench. In fact, throughout the game I kept thinking I was seeing both flashbacks from Cats gone by as well as glimpses of the future.
Bradley is truly growing into the floor general we lacked in some ways since the glory days of one sir Chuck Hayes. Azuibuke was getting there, but left early. Rondo could've been all that, but he thought he already was and was virtually uncoachable. With Smooth and Joe slow to show, Bobby Perry became a man but couldn't drag the rest of the team up. Now it looks like Smooth has decided to be that man, and it is a joy to behold.
With Patrick getting a better feel for the college game, Perry has decided to kick it up a notch - and watching the two of them play off each other, feeding each other in the post, getting open as a safety valve when the other gets jammed, and going hard after each other's rebounds - I began to see visions of the skyline near Commonwealth: Could these two be the return of the Twin Towers? What fun it will be over the next two seasons watching this tandem wreak havoc on opposing defenses!
Meanwhile, it looks like Jodie and DJ are both working their butts off to assume the floor general's mantle when Smooth departs, and also finding each other for feeds and open looks.
While I am already lamenting the not-too-distant-future loss of Smooth and Joe, I see a solid core emerging that can write their own ticket over the next few seasons, if they will only continue to work hard and play together. All they need is one more Cat to step up to play the fifth man, and a couple of reliable subs to spell them when they need it.
With Patrick and Perry policing the paint, and Jodie and DJ driving the lanes when open and draining 3s when closed, and another Cat-to-emerge playing cleanup - we are in for some more fun this year and the next and the next ... and if Patrick stays four years, the last one, according to the Vietnamese calendar, will once again be The Year Of The Cat ...

by Way2blue4SorryFairWeatherFew on Jan 26, 2008 10:27 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

yeah
alex who? do you think seeing how bcg apparently has a way with transforming guards that alex is wondering "what if". oh well. i think stevenson and patterson are really working well together. however, i think the key to this turn around is definetly bradley. what else can you say about his play of late that hasn't already been said. i agree that the healthier we become and the more games we play, the better we will become. hopefully it's not too little too late. i still don't think we'll reach the ncaa tourney, but the possibility is getting a little more realistic. and if not, look out next year.

by joeyandemily on Jan 26, 2008 10:28 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Legion
Very happy at Illinois. Likes Jerrance Howard (ex-UK DBO or something) and Bruce Weber.

by FortyYearCatFan on Jan 26, 2008 10:54 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

legion
Who cares about Alex Legion or how he feels hes just another spoiled kid thats been told how good he thinks his whiny ass is. He ranks no. 2 in UK Basketball to me right behind Rashad Corruth. Be safe GO CATS!!!!!!

by ukblue20 on Jan 27, 2008 3:49 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Todd May, Greg Starrick
2 more from 1980's, 1960's like Legion or Carruth.

by FortyYearCatFan on Jan 27, 2008 4:48 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Todd May
Man that is blast from the past. Greatest thing since sliced bread until the "big city lights" freaked him out. I didn't blame him but wished Hall (was hall right?) could have not wasted time on him. Where did he go? Cumberland or something WAY smaller than UK and D-1 right?

I had heard, back befroe the internet when everyone new everything always, that his episode made several Coaches to be a bit gun shy on Kentucky kids for a while.

The mountains have a way of holding on to some people and God bless 'em if it works for 'em.

by wilson452 on Jan 28, 2008 11:04 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Wake Forest, Then
Finished at Pikeville College.

He quit in mid-December 1982.

by FortyYearCatFan on Jan 28, 2008 8:13 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Good shooting Cats
I loved to watch them play.

Patterson is better playing the post with Perry helping out.  I think they compliment each other.  They certainly look for each other.

The guard play is becoming much better.  I liked the line up for most of the evening against SC.

What about the 3 point shooting of Jasper?  He needs to shoot more.

I am pumped up over this team.

mybluei

by xxmikeo1 on Jan 27, 2008 6:35 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Perry Stevenson
I want to thank the person who told Perry midway through the season that when he is within 5 ft of the basket to never even consider doing anything but dunk.  I want to buy that man a beer.

I am excited to see him contribute but I am not yet convinced he is capable of being a difference maker.  I think Stevenson will become a very effective role player at UK.  If he can learn to create his own shot he could be become even more.  Stevenson is enjoying the spoils of PP being doubled and tripled; with PP being such a good passer and drawing so much attention, Stevenson is going to have opportunities to post good #s.  

Just keep dunking Perry.. just keep dunking!

by BeatUL on Jan 27, 2008 10:27 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Dunking Lessons
BeatUL...when you find that person, please tell him or her to give the same instruction to Patterson. It drives me crazy when he constantly eschews a dunk to lay the ball off the glass instead. A beast like that should dunk every chance he gets. I'm sure this lesson will come as his experience grows, and I am thankful that we, as Cat fans, will get to see this evolution.

Tru, please dip into your bottomless well-spring of knowledge and let us know when, if ever, UK had a true freshman average close to 18 points (or more) a game.

Thanks.

by tooblue on Jan 28, 2008 10:28 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Rex
How did Chapman stack up??

by modcpa on Jan 28, 2008 12:33 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Chapman
Rex averaged 16.9 his freshman year, and Bob Brannum in 1944 averaged 14.4.

They're the only two freshman to lead UK in scoring. Of course freshman weren't eligible for many years.

by Ken Howlett on Jan 28, 2008 1:08 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Historical perspective
Along with Chapman and Brannum, here are the other freshman who averaged double-digits:

C. Mills- 14.3
S. Bowie- 12.9
K. Bogans- 12.4
D. Anderson- 14.0
J. Mashburn- 12.9
R. Robey- 10.3

by Ken Howlett on Jan 28, 2008 1:26 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

D.Anderson
Who is the D.Anderson you reference?  At first I thought it was Derek... but then I remembered that he played his first year at Ohio (or somewhere other than Kentucky anyways).

I'm sure when you tell me I'll slap my head and say "D'oh!"

by chirop1 on Jan 28, 2008 4:06 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

That would be Dwight Anderson
The "Blur".

Played only a-year-and-a-half. 78-79, 79-80

Still one of the fastest basketball players I have ever seen. He was quite a talent.

He transferred to USC after being asked to leave by J. Hall. I believe a violation of team rules was the reason given for him leaving.

by Ken Howlett on Jan 28, 2008 4:35 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Drug Use
Dwight Anderson had a drug problem in college.

Perhaps THE most talented Wildcat of my adult lifetime. (Cotton Nash in my younger days)

http://www.bigbluehistory.net/bb/Statistics/Players/Anderson_Dwightgbg.html Especially ND game his frosh year = A Star Is Born (quoth Al McGuire).

by FortyYearCatFan on Jan 28, 2008 8:16 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Anderson
I knew of the rumors that existed at the time, I just didn't feel it necessary to expand upon "violation of team rules".

I have no idea what he is doing now, but Anderson definitely had NBA potential. He was as quick with the ball as any player I have ever seen.

Watching him play was like watching lion running through an open field, just effortless. The game seemed to come so easy to him. Perhaps that led to his downfall as a player. He didn't have to work hard for it, so it didn't mean as much to him.

Just a theory.

by Ken Howlett on Jan 28, 2008 11:41 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Anderson Admiited It
Many years later, the Cincy (or Dayton) newspaper did a story on him when he was down on his luck.

Last I knew, he still is. Hope he's still alive?

by FortyYearCatFan on Jan 29, 2008 6:53 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

The Blur
I also considered Anderson to be one of the best players I had ever seen at UK. He resurfaced about 8 years later in some monir league (like the USBL.) I took one of my sons to a Tampa Bay Thrillers (or were they the Thunder Dogs) game and there, on the opposing team's bench, sat a heavier, much older looking Dwight Anderson. He hardly played, but it brought back some pretty good memories.

by tooblue on Jan 29, 2008 9:16 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Transfers
When I think of UK and transfers, I usually think first of Kyle Macy.

by Fortunatus on Jan 29, 2008 3:40 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

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