Dropping Dimes: Around the internet

by Truzenzuzex on Jun 14, 2007 8:02 AM EDT in News Comment 12 comments

Here are a few items of interest in the UK sports world this morning:

Former UK assistant Scott Rigot is apparently trying to get a head coaching position at Coastal Carolina, the school Buzz Peterson just vacated to join MJ.

The Melo Backpedal looks at the likely top NBA draft picks for 2008, and Patrick Patterson makes the grade at #22.

The SEC Sports Report is not done with Billy Donovan, and compares the situation in Florida sports to something out of The Godfather. La Cosa Nostra, anyone?

In more Donovan news, The Ol' Ball Coach offers Billy D. a shoulder to cry on.

Brett Dawson of the Courier-Journal alerts us to the fact that Billy Donovan is working without a contract. Guess the days of the "handshake deal" are not quite over, even if only on a temporary basis.

On the ejection of C-J blogger Brian Bennett from the Louisville-Oklahoma State ~~game~~ press box in the recent super-regional baseball tournament, the New York Times says that lawsuit noises are growing louder at the C-J. NCAA Hoops at the Cincinnati Enquirer also posts on the subject.

The University of Kentucky declares war on student attrition. Now, let's extend that to our student athletes as well.

The News-Enterprise looks at Andre Woodson's maturation from athlete-student to student-athlete. Andre's success at UK is truly spectacular given his woes during the first couple of years he was in school.

From the "What's my raison d’être department", a blog by the name of A Price Above Bip Roberts has this quirky post that is funny. Here is an excerpt:

In the 2002-2003 college basketball season, the University of Kentucky was very good. I also happened to be a senior in college. These two items of information are essentially unrelated, but for a moment right here, they will become intertwined.

Read the rest. Funny stuff.

UK football gets grudging, kinda-sorta respect from the SBN Alabama football blog, Roll 'Bama Roll.

John Clay reports on his blog that Florida is not going to raid UK's coaches yet again after all. It was feared that Jeremy Foley, the Florida AD, had targeted UK baseball coach John Cohen.

The Oklahoman has this article on UK recruit Rotnei Clarke. Yikes, this guy is scary -- it has been years since we had a player this determined.

Update [2007-6-14 18:1:31 by Truzenzuzex]: Here is an interesting from Brett Dawson's blog at the Courier-Journal. It seems that Tubby Smith may be interested in a Waffle House franchise as well.

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UK is NOT a dynasty....

as reported by James Washington (former NFL WR for the 90s Cowboys Champ teams) and Craig Sheman(sp?) the morning radio hosts on Fox Sports Radio.

According to Craig and JW the definition of a dynasty is a certain number of championships over a certain number of years. Both numbers were being debated between the two aforementioned radio hosts.

They had mentioned the certain historical teams like UCLA, Boston Celtics, Lakers, Bulls and a few more lesser known Hockey teams. Either way the numbers were looking like 3 champs in 5 years, 5 champs in 9 years and so on. So I decided to text message in to the show to mention UK since no one had bothered to so far. According to JW, "8 championships in 60 years doesn't qualify UK as a dynasty".

I'm sure that you can find email addresses for both Craig Sheman (Ceman??) and "JDub" on the Fox Sports Radio internet site. I would invite all of you to let them know about the Rupp years since they like manipulate the appearance of the statistics to prove the point they want to make.

by blueblood on Jun 14, 2007 12:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

i agree...

with those guys at fox sports (i can't believe i'm saying this). i'm a diehard like most everyone else on this site, but i don't think 8 (i thought it was 7) in 60 qualifies...it comes out a championship every 7-8 (almost 9 by my count) years.

i don't think any of us would consider dUKe a dynasty either, but they won 3 NCs in 11 years, or about 1 every 4 years. even include the last 6 years and it averages out to 1 NC per 6 years.

the only period i see UK being considered a dynasty is from 1948-1958, when they won 4 NCs, including 3 out of 4 ('48, '49, and '51).

GO BIG BLUE!! GO BIG BLUE!!

by UKWildCatFanatic on Jun 14, 2007 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

but you see....

that is my point. If they are considering teams from all points of times, then during the Rupp years, we were a dynasty team. 3 champs in 4 years is well within their qualifications for any other team they mentioned. They just didn't want to see it that way, so they quote the bigger statistic so that they could avoid giving UK credit. Obviously, they are considering all points in time if they are going to mention UCLA. Therefore, they have no choice but to recognize the dynasty team that A. Rupp coached.

by blueblood on Jun 14, 2007 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

7 champs is correct ...

just another point that JW doesn't reasearch his stats very well.

by blueblood on Jun 14, 2007 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

you're right

you have to consider those teams under rupp a dynasty. any team that's considered a dynasty is only looked at that way because you look at certain years to make it favorable. it's always short term (except for UCLA and the Celtics).

i don't think any team, especially now, can be a dynasty over more then 10 years.

i guess the only thing i agreed with JW was "8 championships in 60 years doesn't qualify UK as a dynasty." 60 years is just too long. I feel much better about myself that he and i agree on just one point.

GO BIG BLUE!! GO BIG BLUE!!

by UKWildCatFanatic on Jun 14, 2007 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

UCLA is short term by those definitions....

because the 10 of their 11(I think) championships were in 12 years. Also, more recently they have been in a major slump as far as BB is concerned. The last few years they have been doing well, but prior to that, they had all but disappeared. So this would have to be considered a short term.

by blueblood on Jun 14, 2007 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

just read the clarke article

the kid is nuts...off-the-wall certifably crazy. i hope he chooses UK...

all you need to know:

Detractors point to Rotnei's size and speed, or lack thereof. But a week or so ago, after offering a scholarship, Kentucky's Gillispie told Kelly he didn't care if Rotnei lost an inch and 10 pounds and a step.

"With his toughness, that's the kid I want leading my team," Kelly recalls Gillispie saying.

GO BIG BLUE!! GO BIG BLUE!!

by UKWildCatFanatic on Jun 14, 2007 3:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Truly ...

that says it all.

by Truzenzuzex on Jun 14, 2007 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

and that's the mild part.....

of the article. One wonders, though, what his motivation will be when he achieves his goal.

That's not to say that I don't respect his work ethic, I know adults that have never been that committed to anything(I'm one of them). I believe that might be, no... I'm sure that's obsessive. He might just fit in at UK.

by blueblood on Jun 14, 2007 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Obsessive ... No wonder ...

Gillispie likes him so much. :-)

by Truzenzuzex on Jun 14, 2007 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

no wonder

we like him so much

GO BIG BLUE!! GO BIG BLUE!!

by UKWildCatFanatic on Jun 14, 2007 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

J DUB and SHEman

Clarke is an outstanding shooter. We could use some great shooters even if they arent thought to be p to snuff athletically. Does anyone else think of CL?

I missed the J dub and Sheeman comments this morning. I really like their show so I think I'll give em a pass on this one. By their defintion of dynasty I think UCLA during Woodens hay days would be the only qualifier. I think they need to reasess? their defintion.

by davw83 on Jun 14, 2007 6:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs