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Kentucky Basketball: Are We There Yet?

It seems to me like this march to our last two recruit signings has taken months and months -- because it has.  I can't recall a time in UK history when we had this much suspense about recruiting at this point in the year.  Simply amazing.

I am sure this will come as no surprise to anyone, but I have been reading a lot of frustration in the postings of UK fans about the never-ending recruitment of Jai Lucas and Patrick Patterson.  I am beginning to wonder if the BBN will forgive them for the ridiculously slow recruiting dance they have forced upon us if they do decide to play at Kentucky.  I suppose fans will forget about it if they come, but the negative comments are coming more often and more strongly now than ever before.

The big news over the weekend was that Taurean Green, former Florida starting point guard has signed with an agent and thereby ended his college career.  He now apparently plans to try to raise his standing in the pre-draft camps.

I actually think this is not a bad move for Green, because he isn't likely to improve his standing much next year.  Plus, with the likes of O.J. Mayo and others coming out at the point next year, competition at his position is only going to get tougher.

What this all means to us, though, is that Jai Lucas now has only Walter Hodge ahead of him on the depth chart were he to matriculate to Florida, and Hodge is truly a combo guard who served as backup to green last year.  Hodge is a good shooter, but not nearly the distributor and blow-by threat that Green was.  Thus, the prospect of significant playing time next year for Lucas if he goes to Florida just went up dramatically.

As was reported earlier and covered in my previous post, Tyler Zeller will be visiting Kentucky today.  Who is Tyler Zeller?  He is a 6'11" 215# center from Washington, Indiana.  He has excellent athleticism and skill for his size, has a face up game as well as back-to-the-basket, and has been careening up the charts after some outstanding AAU performances recently.  He is currently ranked #105 by Rivals, but this article suggests he will be a 5-star (top 25) next time the rankings are evaluated.

Zeller has also been offered a scholarship by none other than Tubby Smith at Minnesota.  Zeller is described as "extremely poised" with the ball with an "impressive mid-range touch.

Notably, Zeller plays on the same AAU team as another Kentucky recruit, Beas Hamga, and apparently, Zeller has been taking his minutes lately.  If we were able to land Hamga, it might bode well for our chances with Zeller.  Matt Jones has a nice interview with Zeller on his site today.

Speaking of Beas Hamga, Matt Jones also tells us that he described his UNLV visit as "OK", though we still don't really know about the somewhat silly rumor that he was taken to the De La Hoya/Mayweather fight (which, by the way, Mayweather won in a split decision).

So there we go -- that's the big recruiting news of the day so far.  More later ...

As a follow on to the article we reported on yesterday about Billy Donovan's talks with the Memphis Grizzlies, Dick "Hoops" Weiss writes that the Grizzlies just flat balked at Donovan's demands.  Weiss also reports that he thinks Donovan's new contract will pay him close to $3 million/year.  Update [2007-5-7 17:54:11 by Truzenzuzex]:  Gatorcountry.com has and article specifically rebutting the stories about Billy Donovan interviewing for the Grizzlies job. Hat tip: ITKMMedia.com

KSR's Marc Maggard has a huge AAU report featuring lots of players, UK-interested and otherwise.  If you haven't been there yet, get thee hence.  Donovan's NBA aspirations also figure somewhat prominently near the bottom.  Your mileage may vary.

Rivals has the top eight list out now for 2008, and Wildcat fans will recognize several of them, including Willie Warren and Greg Monroe.

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I think Hodge is extremely quick and showed himself a capable scorer last year when they needed a spark off the bench.

When you think about it, the position where Florida is least likely to need a new freshman to come in and contribute right away is Point Guard. (Unless you think it's Speights at the PF.)

Plus there's the whole Donovan to pros issue to worry about. I'll be surprised to see Lucas go to Florida. I think it'll be a team other than UK or UF and everyone will say, "But I thought Patterson/Lucas were a lock to go to the same school." It's not like they're childhood friends like Oden/Conley Jr.

by Clandestine on May 7, 2007 8:34 AM EDT reply actions  

True ...
although playing time is going to be a bit harder to find at UK, IMO, with two returning point guards.  Hodge is quick, but his passing skills are not the equal of Lucas, even now, from what I have seen.  

To be fair, though, Lucas may not fare so well in college -- the college game is played at a much faster level.

by Glenn Logan on May 7, 2007 8:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Has BCG...
Filled all his assistant positions?  If not Lucas is coming here with his dad locking up that final job.  Florida has won the last 2 NT and if a kid really wanted to win a national title they would see that for FLA. to win another one in the near future is highley unlikley.  I know its not about winning NT's for kids these days its about getting to NBA, but if Lucas or PP want to win a NT it wont be at Fla.

by tiger85 on May 7, 2007 8:46 AM EDT reply actions  

John Lucas Sr. ...
has emphatically said that he will not be coming to UK as an assistant.  I believe him.

by Glenn Logan on May 7, 2007 8:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

i think
that this negative attention, while warranted, could get worse if they come to UK and don't perform that well. i think there's a lot of pressure and hype that these guys will come in and whoever gets them will be instant contenders. I hope they both come to Kentucky and I think they would be solid contributors, but they're freshmen. I just think that because they've waited so long and the drama has increased, so have the fans expectations of them next season.
GO BIG BLUE!! GO BIG BLUE!!

by UKWildCatFanatic on May 7, 2007 10:45 AM EDT reply actions  

That's a real good point
If they were to matriculate here and failed to fire, we could see some serious criticism hurled their way by the Faithful.

I doubt if that ever enters the mind of either Patterson or Lucas, but I think your take is right on.

by Glenn Logan on May 7, 2007 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Lucas and Pat
I hope the players own expectations of themsleves are not realistic because of all of the attention they have been getting. Both Lucas and Patterson are good players but neither is a one and done type of guy. I expect them to contribute next year if they do sign with UK but you all are quite right about them still being freshman. They arent going to save the program next year and judging from some of the comments I have heard from Pat specifically I think that they are beginning to have unrealistic expectations about themselves just because they are the only fish left in the recruiting pond.

by davw83 on May 7, 2007 11:28 AM EDT reply actions  

What about Calethas?
I thought Nick Calethas, a 5-Star 2007 Florida signee, is a Point Guard as well?  Wouldn't Lucas have to share time with him, too?

by vickster3 on May 7, 2007 11:30 AM EDT reply actions  

Not according to Rivals
Nick Calathes PG  6-5 185 6.0  Winter Park, FL

by vickster3 on May 7, 2007 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

He does ...
play the point right now, but I rather doubt if he will play there for Florida.  They need him more at the two.  

I have seen him play a couple of times, and he is definitely not a pass-first player.  Not a gunner, by any means, but more of a wing. He also doesn't have the kind of penetration skills PG's need at the college level, IMO.

by Glenn Logan on May 7, 2007 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Say he does...
play the 2. That means hodge runs the 1 and lucas rides the pine???

by tiger85 on May 7, 2007 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Somebody's gotta be back-up PG ...
I think Lucas would settle for that his first year.  He'd probably be 6 or 7 on the depth chart overall.  Not a bad place for a freshman.

by Glenn Logan on May 7, 2007 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Even after...
BCG told him they would put the ball in his hands from day one?

by tiger85 on May 7, 2007 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey ...
Donovan has to live with that promise, not me. :-)

by Glenn Logan on May 7, 2007 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

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