He's not heavy, he's my brother ...
If it weren't for Jodie and the 1,000-point man, the Cats would not have walked away relieved after their 70-63 win over undermanned LSU on Tuesday.
I wasn't sure what to make of that game last night. It had a bit of everything (we hate). Missed shots, lethargy on defense at times, Ramel Bradley chucking stupid shots, Tubby Smith looking confused on the bench, Derrick Jasper afraid to shoot, a huge first-half deficit, a second-half comeback and Bobby Perry starting, to name just a few.
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The fearless freshman proved why he should be starting with 18 huge points, all but saving a listless Wildcats team that missed all but three of their first 17 field-goal attempts on the way to a 16-point hole.
Randolph Morris, who after Tuesday's 20 has 1,002 career points at Kentucky, certainly deserves accolades. The guy whose head was "not in the game" in the loss to Alabama seemed to be in this one from the get-go, agressively attacking the rim and the boards. His defense? Sketchy, but we'll take scoring Morris with no 'D' over non-scoring Morris with no 'D' any day.
In a game where the bench managed a whopping 2 points and leading scorer Joe Crawford clanged his way to 6, it was Meeks who stepped up big.
"He gave us a big lift that we needed," Morris said of Meeks. "Some players were having a tough game offensively, and he came in and picked up the slack."
Calling Crawford and Jasper's evening a "tough game offensively" is a gross understatement. But Morris has a point, and it's nice that UK has someone to turn to when the shots aren't falling for the stars.
One wonders how many games Tubby Smith needs to see to judge that the current starting lineup isn't helping UK's cause much. This is the, what, fifth straight game the Cats have been behind big in before mounting a comeback? Smith's answer on Tuesday was to start Perry over Sheray Thomas.
Really? That's the cure? No chance you'd throw a curveball and start Meeks or Perry Stevenson, just to see if it helps? Well, forgive us longtime UK fans if we feel underwhelmed by Smith's coaching moves. Tubby seems disinclined to admit anything resembling frustration or confusion. Conversely, I thought LSU coach John Brady -- who I happen to think is as bad an in-game coach as there is in the college game -- was disarmingly candid in his assessment of why his team has struggled so much this year.
"Well, the only thing you can say is that I haven't coached them well enough. You can write a column on what you think, but that's all I'm going to say. I'm not going to go into a dissertation about this or that. The bottom line is I haven't given them what they need to finish a game.
Without Glen Davis, this game should not have been close, much less close to a loss. But, whetever, the Cats won at home, where they are now a whopping 400-50 all-time. Still, Tubby's Cats are responsible for 19 of those 50, and he's had exactly one season at UK where the team went undefeated at home, and not any of the seasons you'd expect. Only the 1999-2000 Cats, featuring Jamaal Magloire, ran the home table. Strange, huh?
And now we turn to the weekend game, a rematch with Vanderbilt. The 'Dores are ranked 17th in the land, surprised then-No. 1 Florida last weekend and have had the Cats' number of late. It would be a great road win for Kentucky if it can pull it off.
For now, I'll revel in the game that Meeks built, looking forward to the day he crosses the 1,000-point threshold. Something tells me it won't be all that far down the road.
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Starting Meeks
1.) We need someone who can score to come off the bench. It's impossible to establish Morris and get shots for Crawford, Bradley, and Meeks by the first TV timeout. And since we usually need a spark, Meeks is the best bet to provide it.
2.) The junior trio has to stay in the lineup because they're head cases, and I'm not looking to go to a four-guard offense in the SEC.
3.) Meeks is a freshman, and keeping him right where he is should keep him comfortable. If he's suddenly starting over one of the juniors, suddenly his mind set will change, and I like where he is mentally already.
4.) Coming off the bench isn't keeping him from getting starter minutes. If you check the numbers, Meeks already is in the top five in minutes each game. Not starting him gives our substitution rotation more fluidity, and he's not missing out on playing time.
5.) Some day, I want to be able to ask, "What do Ron Mercer, Heshimu Evans, and Jodie Meeks all have in common?" Okay, so maybe I'm dreaming here, but you get the idea. The sixth man can be pretty important, and I'm not ready for Meeks to turn over the role to Thomas or Perry.
by SylvieCat on Feb 21, 2007 11:56 AM EST reply actions
All true ...
Yeah, it would change roles around, but is that really a major concern given how things are looking?
I dunno. It's just that the lineup with Jasper, Thomas and Woo is basically playing 2-on-5 on offense.
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I don't know...
Although I have to admit that my usual optimism has been muted in the last two weeks because of our team's desire to anti-peak at the exact wrong time, I do take some issue with what you have written today.
First, you nitpick on Morris's game that he played sketchy defense. Considering that our number one game plan was to get the ball to him, it was his role not to get any fouls. He successfully stayed out of foul trouble, and was the offense that we needed on a consistent basis. At the same time he managed to accumulate 10 boards, 3 blocks, and a steal. Intangibly, he managed to alter many shots and hustled more than he has in any recent game. This was hardly defensive slouching.
Second, you rag on Bobby Perry for his contributions. Usually I agree with your "bench Perry" echo chamber here on the blog, but tonight he legitimately argued with his actions that he deserves that starting spot. Not only did he generate offense (8 points) and play hard defense and grab rebounds (4 rebounds), but he did so in under 20 minutes of playing time. Also, he was the one who took the important three-point shot to start the second half that started the Cats' run down the stretch.
Overall, this win was hard to take, as evidenced by the discussion on this board and on all the others. I would argue, just to find the ray of sunshine in last nights performance, that Tubby coached the game in such a way that pretty much ensured victory. They had nobody to guard Morris, so we sent it inside over and over. They were short on personnel, so we jammed our rotation so that we would have the legs at the end. Many fans wanted to see a high flying beat-down by 20 points or more, one that would send a message to the country that UK is playing killer-instinct basketball again, but Tubby cares not for sending messages, he just carefully plans wins. They are boring sometimes, but usually his coaching in-game is spot on, regardless of what one thinks of recruiting.
All optimism aside, I will say that when I go to the SEC Tournament in just over 2 weeks, I will be sorely disappointed when we have to play on Thursday, a day I believe our team should never play on no matter what difficulties we face. We have a history that legitimizes expectations of excellence, and I want that as bad as everyone else. I'm uncertain we will see greatness from this bunch, but I will continue to hope for and expect it.
by EKO on Feb 21, 2007 1:10 PM EST reply actions
All good points ...
Bobby is Bobby. Glad he hit a few shots. Even gladder he took only 4.
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This is...
Perry made a couple of nice defensive stops, made a big 3, and generally played pretty well. My quibbles with him starting are these: First, Stevenson plays very well for about 5 minutes after he gets in, and I think we should burn some of those on the front end. Second, starting Sevenson might give him an emotional boost, and more energy.
Perry can handle not starting, and still come in and give you some quality minutes. I don't think Stevenson is up to getting more than about 10 minutes per game, anyway, but we need more front-loading in our offense.
Speaking of recruiting...
None of us wants to see this lousy basketball continue, but constantly repeating the same old anti-Smith rhetoric over and over again just bores the hell out of me. If you recruit everyone in here to your side of the argument, this will become an echo chamber like DD. C'mon, man, get a grip!
You managed to make a great comment earlier. Save your Smith loathing for some other blog or at least a relevant thread, and give us the good UkBluz, not the boring one.
We are trying to be different here. If this blog becomes about Smith, as so many other blogs and boards have, how different is that?
I agree...
I don't get...
Tubby's coaching method is to reward players who work hard and put in their time and that players who stick with the program are going to get their chance to play real minutes. Those players who stick with the program and show leadership skills will start. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. Whether you like it or not, taking Bobby Perry out of the starting lineup would screw up the trust that Tubby is trying to build with the younger players. This is metagame strategy. If you say one thing and do another, even if it wins a few games now, its going to lose a lot more games in the future.
I mean, isn't the problem with the junior class really about them not buying into Tubby's program. I don't think they really trust him, which is why I think they don't play defense until midway through the first half.
That being said, I just don't think you can take out Bobby Perry from the starting lineup. Maybe I'm wrong, but if I'm right, I would rather have this year's batch of freshmen completely trusting Tubby's system in two years than win a few more games this year.
by senowen on Feb 21, 2007 3:22 PM EST reply actions
I don't think...
I understand your point about Smith's approach, but a coach is compelled to constantly evaluate the efficacy of his team deployment strategy, and our recent futility clearly demonstrates a need for something different. Perry Stevenson has demonstrated that for short spurts, he can be really effective. He is also a poor ballhandler and makes defensive mistakes. But he brings energy and athleticism that we lack when Bobby and Sheray are in the lineup.
My thought is to start Stevenson, then replace him with one of the seniors after 5 minutes or so. My hope is that the additional athleticism will help Kentucky get off to better starts. Then, we can bring in the stabilizing influence of Bobby and Sheray to go from there.
Perry will play any role he is asked to play because he is a mature young man and understands the team must come before pride or promises. At least, that's how I see it.
Bobby Bashing
Perry's problems ...
IT'S HIS SENIOR YEAR.
Anyone who thought he's average more than 15 points was delusional, I agree.
But is it really that unrealistic to expect him to score 10 points and grab 5 boards a game after playing 20+ minutes a game for three years?
I don't see how that's bashing, so long as it's respectful. I just don't see the production vs. the minutes.
I also too often see whomever Perry is guarding getting (a) offensive rebounds when BP doens't box out correctly and (b) getting layups at the rim when BP only plays 32 of the 35 seconds on the shot clock. I've seen this at least three times this season ... that's just not something a good player does.
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No presence
It's hard to know what Carter would have added. and what 26-win Tubby's plans were. Maybe he's out of buttons to press with this squad.
Cannot...stop...screed!
These guys are pansies, damn it! They compete with nobody, and back down a lot. They depend on their talent to get by, and still haven't figured out that winning teams don't do that. It drives me crazy that players this talented should lack something that we grew to regard as our birthright during the years of Sheppard and Hayes.
As I said before, Brittany Spears has more mental toughness than these guys. We got Randolph "my head just wasn't in the game" Morris, Bobby "I gotta relax" Perry and Ramel "The road oppresses me" Bradley. I just hope this crap doesn't rub off on our freshmen. Smith should make them come to practice in drag after making comments like that.
AAARRGGHH!
10 loss Tubby
Perhaps "26 win Tubby" is more appropriate. If you want to dig into the Pitino archive you may call him "26 win Ricky" although he won a bunch of games with Eddie Sutton's players. Also, as far as I know Tubby has no plans to coach Louisville in the future.
I agree wholeheartedly with your Bobby Perry comments- play him sparely. Calling UK's style of play "boring" is painting things with an awful broad. I think college basketball, in general, suffers from a glut of timeouts. The GAME itself is too often boring to watch. I don't care who's playing. So don't hate the coach, hate the game.
"I am a Tubby fan"
I also have a hard time swallowing the idea that this is your first utterance of "10 loss Tubby" in a post. Thou doth protest too much, friend.
I agree...
I don't think that anyone should care about BP's mental state. For soneone who produces so little, it is a non-issue. My concern is not whether BP is happy, but rather, the effects on the younger players at seeing the only person approximating a team leader, a senior, be bumped out of the starting slot, late in the season, by an untested freshman who is at best only a marginally better player (right now).
Yes, I'm sick of the current situation, but I would rather muck through the rest of this season with some optimism for the future, than screw up a whole season's worth of indoctrination on a hope and a prayer that the team could somehow turn things around this late in the season. Sounds defeatist, but sometimes discretion is the better part of valor.
by senowen on Feb 21, 2007 7:22 PM EST reply actions
More on Perry, Morris, Tubby, The Game ITSELF...
JLBlue, you are indeed being too hard on Morris's perf last night. He looked energized, aggressive, even, shockingly, like he had his head in the game. A lot can be said, but one thing I will say about Morris, has anybody noticed the dude has NO VERTICAL LIFT? A friend mentioned this during game last night and I realized, yeah, dude never dunks, always seems to barely make it to the rim, even on his softest and sweetest touches. So I developed the following theory: in Morris's brain, he's 6 foot 6 and a power forward, hell maybe even a 3 guard. Sounds ridiculous, but watch him next game with that in mind.
As for Tubby: if you ride the dude for being a terrible first half coach, you gotta give him props for being a great 2nd half coach. He does make the right adjustments. He or his assistants are just not great preparers. Tubby plays his instincts, esp. in the second half, and most often his instincts are correct. Unfortunately, we're already down by 16 and can't catch up. But we often outscore opponents in the 2nd.
Lastly, I noticed a trend in basketball, and viewers' analysis of it:
it is common to say something like "he didn't play D in the first half", or "their offense sucked the whole game". But, if you watch a game like last night's, it is clear that these descriptives usually don't apply to the entire stretch of a game. For example, yes, the Cats D did suck in the first half, except for short stretches where if DIDN'T SUCK. We tend to look at the game as divisible in halfs, which of course it is in the most obvious sense, but it is actually a game of possessions and defensive stands, and the key to winning games is to play the better game, possession to possession. That, and scoring more points. Duh. But why is this an important point? Because it allows a coach to explore the "intangibles" in the game, players' abilities, and the teams' strengths. Chuck Hayes was a great player in large part because of his "intangibles": leadership, hustle, diving for balls, being in the right position, etc. If a coach can identify these intangible contributions, they can maximize a players' minutes, positioning, etc, and ultimately win each possession and each defensive stand.
Which player, in my mind, presents the greatest intangible assests to this year's Cats? That's pretty simple. The freshman #20. Start him or not, but give him 36 minutes a game.
by jbbaseline on Feb 21, 2007 7:46 PM EST reply actions
A "second" to that motion...
"As for Tubby: if you ride the dude for being a terrible first half coach, you gotta give him props for being a great 2nd half coach. He does make the right adjustments. He or his assistants are just not great preparers. Tubby plays his instincts, esp. in the second half, and most often his instincts are correct. Unfortunately, we're already down by 16 and can't catch up. But we often outscore opponents in the 2nd."
I think this is an extremely interesting point you bring up, and one I'm not sure why I haven't thought of before. (Probably because it was interesting and original, so I had to rely on you to come up with it while I'm relegated to just responding to it.) My point in all of this, should I ever get to it, is that aren't the assistant coaches the ones responsible for the scouting/pre-game gameplan and preparations? (I know that many are going to claim that I'm trying to create excuses for Tubby, but that's really not my intent; I'm just trying to figure out why there is so much disparity between the way this team plays and the way the 2003 team played.) Tubby has gotten credit since his early coaching days at the smaller schools for being a spectacular in-game strategist. I appreciate your comment about "instinct" as well; I wonder if part of the reason Tubby's assistants haven't developed and moved on to head coaching positions is because it's hard to "teach" someone how to coach based on instinct, versus being able to more actively demonstrate "when this happens, then I counter by doing that." Anyway, I started to wonder if this set of assistant coaches just isn't getting it done in the same way as the coaches for the '03 team. So I went back to look at the roster (Thank you, Jon Scott!), and it's the same coaching staff.
So I'm still stumped.
Maybe the players on that team were just so much better at watching game film and understanding how to take away the other team's strengths. I remember articles about that at the time, and I guess I've always just assumed that all the players who compete at that level are equal in that regard. But maybe Fitch, Bogans, Hawkins, Estill, Hayes and Daniels were just significantly better at it than this crew.
Of course, I also recognize that it's the head coach's responsibility to get his players motivated, and that's certainly not happening right now, whatever the reason. I just wish someone would get the punching bag from Vandy for Tubby so he could take his frustrations out on it again and then find a way to light a fire under these guys!
Oh, and I hope we win this Sunday at Vanderbilt.
by Kilgore Trout on Feb 23, 2007 5:14 PM EST up reply actions
Good comment
Hope to see more of you around here.

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